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741  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: February 17, 2014, 09:49:48 PM
Fundraising is over and here are some updates and plans ahead:

1. The (first draft) stakeholder list is now updated to the end of the fundraising.
2. Kooream will update his stakeholder list population shortly after.
3. Now we (me, patmast3r and kooream) will deal with any complaint about the list until everyone is satisfied. We also deal with any duplicate hash case thoroughly.
4. A unified list with all stakeholders will be created from these multiple lists. All accounts without Y condition will be removed. Then we will remove any duplicate names so that an account only appears once in the list.
5. A pubic auditing will be announced with detail guidelines/ suggestions. We will have the public auditing lasting 5 days and then have 2 days to consolidate the list and refund big multi- accounters.
6. A final NEM stakeholder list is announced which is the social contract of NEM project to its community stating that all Nemcoins (minus development shares) would be divided equally to these accounts.  
7. plans for development are announced and there will be a refund period after that.
8. plans for NEM exchanges are announced.

more...

In total we raised more than 400K NXT and 56 BTC and formed a huge and strong community. Our last stakeholder is contraband whose transaction is not in the thread because it is locked before he edited the post. But he sent me the transaction ID via PM. I am looking forward to seeing all of you in the future success of NEM.
742  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: February 17, 2014, 04:24:39 PM
I changed ournem.com homepage's image to avoid the image's right issue so it is ready to be shared now. I will add more features in shortly, but the main messages in the front page will stay and should be enough to covey what NEM is all about.

Initially I want to use nemcoin.info domain but now I think we will stick with ournem.com for the front site. NEM is our community/ movement; Nemcoin is our currency/ decentralized technology platform we are using.

So feel free to let others know about us if you are enthusiastic http://www.ournem.com/

What do you think of having multiple images running as a slideshow in the background? I quite like the new one.

Also, now a website is up we need a logo!

Right we do need a killer logo. There is none on the site yet. I am thinking about opening a 99design competition. With all dues respects to our community designers, I want to see more options.
743  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: February 17, 2014, 04:15:06 PM
I won't make any change to the principle of 1 account/ 1 share which is the basic stone of NEM's fundraising/ principle.  

For some news, here is the preview of NEM's front site which is pretty much just the front page right now http://www.ournem.com/.
This is for preview only so please do not circulate as I am in process of obtaining image rights for the site.

Now here is a quick bounty of 500 NXT for anyone can correctly identify the front page picture.

UP

I notice on the front page you mention missions...surely you mean quests  Grin

Missions to free every single people on earth of oppressive centralized power; of old-established currency, capital; and giving people a fair chance in life to succeed.

 Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin we can't get big if we think small  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin  

To international viewers, the image on the site is based in New York, of the twin tower in 2012 when it is under a new construction.
744  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: February 17, 2014, 04:09:50 PM
I changed ournem.com homepage's image to avoid the image's right issue so it is ready to be shared now. I will add more features in shortly, but the main messages in the front page will stay and should be enough to covey what NEM is all about.

Initially I want to use nemcoin.info domain but now I think we will stick with ournem.com for the front site. NEM is our community/ movement; Nemcoin is our currency/ decentralized technology platform we are using.

So feel free to let others know about us if you are enthusiastic http://www.ournem.com/
745  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: February 17, 2014, 02:52:01 PM

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345619.msg3704749#msg3704749

Has there been earlier this "We are a movement."


That might has been edited recently. But then we are not competing in these kind of things/ titles. "No Envy".

Sorry for the delayed update of the stakeholder list due to that the blockchain.info is down and transaction hash cannot be checked. So the list is updated to page 80 at this point. I will continue working when the site is online again. Thanks for your patience.
746  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: February 17, 2014, 02:01:31 PM
I won't make any change to the principle of 1 account/ 1 share which is the basic stone of NEM's fundraising/ principle.  

For some news, here is the preview of NEM's front site which is pretty much just the front page right now http://www.ournem.com/.
This is for preview only so please do not circulate as I am in process of obtaining image rights for the site.

Now here is a quick bounty of 500 NXT for anyone can correctly identify the front page picture.

UP

awesome website Grin. how much did it cost you to buy the domian name? must have been expensive, its very appropiate.

domain name is not that expensive as well as the design. The most tricky part is to obtain image rights. I have been in talk with John and his agent for the last two days and it is not possible to use this image until April because the image's right currently belong to National Geographic.

So the site is for preview only and I will change the front image soon.  

Is it going to be released with another picture or background in the mean time?

Yes. I have some other pictures. But my plan is to populate this site with high quality photo-journalism photographs with theme of technology + human condition but with uplifting messages.
So recommend here if you know some images that fit the theme. I have a fund to pay for image rights so world class quality is the most important criterion, not the type of common stock photographs. I am a photography aficionado myself, so I do have a sense of what are good images.
747  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: February 17, 2014, 01:46:28 PM
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is that your own calculation or who has done it?


Yes, my calculation.

you got the idea from caspar's posts?
I've been searching these threads, where is talked about formulas, but actually found only one; but none with this "3" or "2/6".
Anyway in the sheets have been 3 categories of accounts ... is that the thing, to which your formulas are based on?




Otherwise are too many double units outstanding. That is not fair!

The development team still has the right to refund anyone not happy with NEM community/ movement. You could voluntarily leave too if that what you want.
748  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: February 17, 2014, 01:44:08 PM
I won't make any change to the principle of 1 account/ 1 share which is the basic stone of NEM's fundraising/ principle.  

For some news, here is the preview of NEM's front site which is pretty much just the front page right now http://www.ournem.com/.
This is for preview only so please do not circulate as I am in process of obtaining image rights for the site.

Now here is a quick bounty of 500 NXT for anyone can correctly identify the front page picture.

UP

awesome website Grin. how much did it cost you to buy the domian name? must have been expensive, its very appropiate.

domain name is not that expensive as well as the design. The most tricky part is to obtain image rights. I have been in talk with John and his agent for the last two days and it is not possible to use this image until April because the image's right currently belong to National Geographic.

So the site is for preview only and I will change the front image soon.  
749  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: February 17, 2014, 01:33:23 PM
I won't make any change to the principle of 1 account/ 1 share which is the basic stone of NEM's fundraising/ principle.  

For some news, here is the preview of NEM's front site which is pretty much just the front page right now http://www.ournem.com/.
This is for preview only so please do not circulate as I am in process of obtaining image rights for the site.

Now here is a quick bounty of 500 NXT for anyone can correctly identify the front page picture.

UP

I love the site!
As for the picture, http://proof.nationalgeographic.com/2014/01/01/pictures-we-love-signals-and-remnants/

 Grin

Thank you Xpedite and here is the story told by the photographer himself https://www.facebook.com/johnstanmeyer . what's beautiful but subtle photograph that the blends hope, technology and human condition.  
750  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: February 17, 2014, 01:21:40 PM
I won't make any change to the principle of 1 account/ 1 share which is the basic stone of NEM's fundraising/ principle.  

For some news, here is the preview of NEM's front site which is pretty much just the front page right now http://www.ournem.com/.
This is for preview only so please do not circulate as I am in process of obtaining image rights for the site.

Now here is a quick bounty of 500 NXT for anyone can correctly identify the front page picture.

UP
751  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: February 17, 2014, 04:25:47 AM
That last guy did not include his transaction id, only the too and from address.
I hope it still counts, I need to rest at some point!!
Someone please tell him to edit!!

Is there anyway to un-unlock the thread ? I messed up with editing the front page and locked it before realizing.

Well it is what it is. I will tally the total fund and update the stakeholder list tomorrow.

UP

Thanks for all your hard work guys. Now the really hard part starts eh?

maybe the hard part is for you all waiting Smiley or maybe we could do something useful in the meantime. I do have something planned for a next few weeks. Then hopefully we have a clear ETA about Nemcoin. Then I have some other plans. So I hope it would not be too boring for all of NEM supporters.
752  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: February 17, 2014, 04:21:23 AM
Interesting updates from a few of the other "NXT clones":

PiNX:
For details left unexplained, PiNX can’t lead this project.

In the end, all I have given you is a vision.  It is up to community to make that vision a reality.

Goodbye.

NEX:
Please do not post here about 'being interested'.

You need to go to http://www.nexcoin.net  to submit your interest.

My mistake! I have already given my email, I just saw everyone else doing it so I assumed you had to to claim your stake.

By the way, how many coins will NEX have? And is there an ETA for release? Smiley

100 million on release,  1 billion total.  

3 weeks.

Are there any other notable ones?

I am suspicious of FrictionlessCoin's intention. Looks like he is trying to make a POW clone with certain percentage of premine but he still claimed making POS coin, There is no workable pure POS code bases available for him to clone so what he is trying to do ? maybe he tries to re-write on his own because he does seem to have a lot of free time.
753  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: February 17, 2014, 04:14:02 AM
That last guy did not include his transaction id, only the too and from address.
I hope it still counts, I need to rest at some point!!
Someone please tell him to edit!!

Is there anyway to un-unlock the thread ? I messed up with editing the front page and locked it before realizing.

Well it is what it is. I will tally the total fund and update the stakeholder list tomorrow.

UP
754  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: February 17, 2014, 03:47:51 AM
@Moloch: it is not too bad. I do some other things and I am staying up for another hour or so. After that I will go to sleep and let the thread run until tomorrow.
I'd gladly take the last spot if it wasn't against the rules )

It's good to see that the whole Nem ipo thing was successful and you raised almost 1M Nxt. I think this fact itself means a lot. Plenty of people believe in Nem and it's the most important for a new currency.

I think we should wait for a new person. It would be fun to make a guess veteran or new account ?
755  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: February 17, 2014, 03:30:40 AM
@Moloch: it is not too bad. I do some other things and I am staying up for another hour or so. After that I will go to sleep and let the thread run until tomorrow.
756  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM - No Envy Movement - Discussion thread on: February 17, 2014, 03:12:30 AM
interested.

It is not the thread.
"interested" is over, you have to pay some fees and the more you wait, the fees get higher.

Also the new comers account like him must be dismissed.

It is easy to create hundred account and get hundred times more NEM.

My apologies, I misunderstood the original post.  I have expressed interest on the original post to correct my mistake, and why should I be dismissed, that's incredible arrogance on your part superresistant.  I think everyone should be treated equally. I missed out on the original NXT stake, and as a result bought NXT to support it, and am an active member on nextcoin.org.  I think everyone deserves a fair chance to be a stakeholder.

To quote the first post:

"Completely Fair Distribution - Equal Shares for ALL

No arbitrary rule of distribution. No dictator to tell you how to do things. The most egalitarian coin. Show your love to NEM".

Completely Fair Distribution - Equal Shares for ALL

In fact, it is just a relative fair distribution. Sock puppets are unavoidable. However, for the relative fairness, NEM team should merge the same BTT id and same NXT addr because these are obvious opposite to the spirit of fairness.

@utopianfuture  How do you think?


Fair distribution, not completely. Equal shares for ALL (accounts) is literally true by design. Not sure I have said many times "My goal is to spread NEM widely and equally to many people (but not perfectly equal)", NEM's claim is fairly modest and we just try to do our best with the fundraising's design and goals. Surely someone else could do better in a certain "fair" or"equality" aspect. It is not my purpose to compete in these kind of claims. We are "no envy" movement.

Now someone please takes the last spot so that I can lock the fundraising thread.  
757  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: NEM - copycat scam? on: February 17, 2014, 01:02:35 AM
NEM is longest scam ever

I thought you are referring to bitcoin, or fiat money depending on the perspective.
758  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: February 16, 2014, 10:38:28 PM
Just to let you know, there is someone scamming over here I think:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=470052.0

Well what can I do ? it is self-moderated thread and it is Bitcointalk's policy. We will move to our own forum at some points though, so these behaviors can be avoided.
Still, I think people do need to learn how to read properly before starting sending money or anything. The scam is so obvious that I won't bother that much  so far.
759  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: February 16, 2014, 10:22:19 PM
chuck norris !
Chuck Norris get's his stake on page 91 - by posting "interested" Smiley
Chuck Norris is the best! LOL Smiley

Chuck Norris will be in. I do plan to have a list of important contributors who can help NEM directly and substantially by joining in.
760  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: February 16, 2014, 10:20:25 PM
lol all those fake last min. accounts are hilarious.  Well congrats to all those who made 2-5 times buy ins in the last days!

You should engage them in the introduction thread then you can know if they are real or fake accounts. Many new accounts are friends of earlier NEM participants. Doing so smaller groups can be formed within a bigger group/ community. That's a powerful force to push things forward.
I received a lot of PM these days and there is no denying that NEM attracting many new people.

Utopian: I sent you a PM, got some questions and suggestions that I want to take in private.


I think you could let the community contribute to these suggestions. Thanks
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