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741  Economy / Speculation / Re: Top 20 days for Bitcoin on: March 13, 2024, 03:05:04 AM
Just missed 6 in a row despite the big fiat-taking.

Still 6 days of top averages ain't bad.

numbers are great .  I really like the bounce back after the sell off.

i am hoping for a new ATH on weds. maybe 75k
742  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Hello, my friend has 200 solar panels, do they generate enough energy for mining on: March 13, 2024, 12:32:59 AM
So, basically, @philipma1957, your power factor means how many hours a day you could get the max wattage out of each panel, right?
I'm no expert but a 400W rated panel, usually cannot produce 400W every hour, in the best scenario.

Maybe I complicate things a bit but what I usually do to calculate these figures is to try to estimate how many hours a panel is exposed to sunlight in a day. I say for instance 6h. And in those 6h, I never use the rated Wattage of the panel. I always go lower. So, for instance for a 400W panel, I may work with 300W for 6 hour, as an average. So 1800W per day per panel. 200 panels would produce 360kW. It's not far from what you estimated. It's just a bit more conservative! Although conservative is good to dimenison a solar park, it may be actually worse to calculate how much energy you would need to buy back at night because you would need to buy back more!

yes sunrise almost 10% noon 100% sunset almost 10%

most places in the world rate 4 to 6 hours.

Ireland sucks             maybe 4 hours

 Saudi Arabia great.  maybe 6 hours
743  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Beginner miner starting out on: March 12, 2024, 10:35:31 PM
hodl some cash out some.

do not  do all hodl

do not do all cash out

by doing both you have to be part right.

what kills in this industry is being all wrong.
744  Economy / Speculation / Re: At what price will you bitcoin holders sell if we have a major price spike? on: March 12, 2024, 07:02:46 PM
I would sell
0.1 today at 70k+

I would ladder list

0.1 at 79876
0.1 at 84321
0.1 at 94321
0.1 at 111111

And I would on to the rest for dear life.
745  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: My s9 free electricity location... gone...sad.. on: March 12, 2024, 03:27:25 PM
So my s9 mining away for the last 3 years is due to be retired in a month.   

The location of which I was mining with free power is changing hands and I have to pull the s9   

/Mourn   with me plz.

Id like to thank this community from 3 years ago helping me get that obsolete thing running efficiently. 
Any ideas what I can do with this boat anchor? 

Sell it on ebay I guess? Someone who has access to "free" electricity might buy it from you. Since they don't care about efficiency, they will buy every cheap miner out there. Other than that it is completely useless now probably.

https://www.ebay.com/p/12031073066

This s9 is going for $69.99.

You are lucky if you can get $100 for that and I don't know if you care enough o get that $100. Just throw it away.

it is just the s9 without the psu. and it costs 70 + 20 to ship = 90

What you do not understand is people have free power at 120 volts.

Which means 13th = 13 x .12 = $1.56 per day
746  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 12, 2024, 03:24:53 PM
How much bitcoin (in percent) do you guys have of bitcoin in your overall portfolio?

I have nearly 30%, which i always thought to be quiet large.. however, I have the feelings it should be more now. at least 50%  Cheesy

well don't worry just hodl for a month or two and it will do it on its own.
747  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 12, 2024, 03:12:13 PM
A new Tuesday ATH would be enjoyable

we did it 73 k on coinbase and bitmex

748  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: My s9 free electricity location... gone...sad.. on: March 12, 2024, 02:42:36 PM
Yeah ebay has them


https://www.ebay.com/itm/126294738663?


about $114

so try selling for 99

please note I do not know this seller I found it with a quick search
749  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Hello, my friend has 200 solar panels, do they generate enough energy for mining on: March 12, 2024, 02:38:16 PM
Also using batteries are too expensive.

Most successful solar setups sell to the grid in the day and buy back at night.


full power factors run as low as 4 and as high as 6. I quote 5 to be in the middle.

The factor of 5 means how much power your panel will do in a day.

factor of 5 is 5 x the panel number

a 400 watt panel can do 5 x 400 = 2000 watts in a day. In most parts of the world.

If you are in a cloudy spot maybe lower say 4 or 4 x 400 = 1600 watts in a day.

If you are in the Sahara on the equator a factor of 6 is likely so 6 x 400 = 2400 watts in a day for 1 panel.

That is why I picked the middle number.

so 200 panels x 400 = 80,000 watts at peak.

I picked a 400 watt panel as it is fairly common.


80,000 watts at peak with a 5 factor is 400,000 watts in a day.


400,000/24 = 16667 watts .  this is the part people struggle with.

If your power company is good they buy your excess. then sell it back at night.

Since you have 400kwatts I divided by 24 and got 16.667 kwatts. a s21 is 3.6 kwatts 4 of them are 14.40kwatts

So if you run 4 s21's you burn 14.40 x 24 = 345.60 kwatts you earned 400 kwatts for the panels so 4 miners free with a bit left over is my number.

you could do 5 if you are in a sunny spot near the equator

My assumption are

400 watt panels
   5 for your power factor
1 to 1 buy back deal from the power company
 no batteries.




Now I do know of ways to make batteries cheap enough but it involves a deal with a battery/golf cart company and you using their dead batteries and refurbishing them.  So basically that is not your case or many other peoples case.
750  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 2024 Diff thread happy New Years. on: March 12, 2024, 03:17:52 AM
I under clocked s17pro to 42th and pulled as little as 1300 watts that was 31 watts.

So far no one has shown me an s21 at 3500 watts I have seen a

200 th s21 doing 3575 watts = 17.875 watts a th

so we went from 31 to 17.875 that is a 42.5% improvement

Ya, I used stock settings as a reference, it would take a while for mods to work well on the Antminer S21 to figure out how low can the w/t go, it could be 15w or anything in that range unless they are already underclocked by Bitmain which doesn't make sense, but my guess is -- it would be a similar drop that S17 had percentage-wise.

As for the bull trap scenario -- it's possible, BTC likes to do things differently every cycle, this is the first cycle where we hit a new ATH before the halving, the majority of people were waiting for the halving to happen and then bull, many other people including myself thought that this time would be different in a negative way, i.e, it would not moon in the same halving year but rather middle or late next year, but what do we know? BTC does what BTC wants to do.


Yeah buying the s21 or t21 could be dumb as fuck or smarter than Einstein.

Maybe we just climb up past 80k 90k 100k 110k 200k  300k and a th makes 50cents so your 200th unit is earning $100 a day by the summer of 2024.

That would be wild as fuck.
751  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 12, 2024, 02:44:02 AM
Whatever dumbassery there is in the legacy media, at least it is very clear that they are still talking about Bitcoin.

Certainly not Ethereum, not Vitalik walking zombie deep eye socket man, not BNB, not Solana and not bearded ape asswiped NFTs.

Other "cryptos" are not even worth mentioning here as they are bound to fall off the radar in a few years whichever position they currently enjoy on coinmarketcap.

Most never even regained their previous highs whilst we have seen BTC's new ATHs. At what point is it not clear to people that they are shitcoins?

Just because it is a shitcoin does not mean it has absolutely no use. You can leverage Bitcoin to short shitcoins and make more Bitcoin Tongue. When exiting your position you can figuratively feel the frustration and confusion of shitcoin investors who still have not realized that whenever Bitcoin goes down, shitcoins go down even harder. And shitcoins always go down except during bull markets when they get to ride daddy Bitcoin's coat tails. And if the shitcoiner gets lucky, they own whichever shitcoin is getting pumped on that day(Which totally is not just the devs trying to make their shitcoin look popular, I mean, who would do that? Roll Eyes).

No shit coin should be purchased or traded for.

Mining them at a profit and quickly converting to btc is the only way to deal with shit coins.

Mining is far less risky as you trade for Bitcoin asap.

But technically that is leveraging as well. Lets say you mine the shitcoin. You still have costs to pay, maybe even have to buy new miners. You pay in Bitcoin and mine shitcoins. So you are already invested in shitcoins for a short while and then you trade them in for Bitcoin. This can go tits up as well, if the price of that shitcoin falls down to 0 and you have not sold them yet. Luna showed us how quickly that can happen. I mean, you are still left standing with the costs.
I agree with you on one thing: Shitcoins should be avoided.

I have been golden with Antminer L7 miners.

I sell all the Ltc instantly and ladder sell doge.

I made more doing this then I ever did mining btc.

look at the history of the L7 it is the best profit making miner since Jan 2021 .

My L7 is pure profit since Jan 2022.

So for two years and two months it is paid off and turning profit for 26 months.

I did not buy the L7s with BTC.

In fact I almost never pay for a miner with btc.

I wait patiently for sellers that allow me to use a CC. So basically no money comes out of pocket.

I also leverage ccs with discounts  and time to pay.

The last L7s were 4k each  on a cc I got 900 rebate and 12 months to pay. plus 1% on the 8k

So 980 in cash back 12 months to pay card. It  is paid off  and I not only never laid out cash I got cash back.



752  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 2024 Diff thread happy New Years. on: March 12, 2024, 02:27:52 AM
OK, I have seen a reference to a "bull trap". Can someone explain what that really means and how it works?

Btc is ath high = bull 🐂

½ ing in 38 days = trap 🪤

If you purchased  a miner right now because it is bull and btc goes flat or retreats you will likely lose

mining. you got trapped.

if you buy a miner now and we moon 🌕 you will not be bull trapped.

so buying gear to mine today has the added risk of a bull trap.

and lets say you buy one and we drift to 75k and do flat we as a buyer at any price under that you are okay.

but a miner could be in a lot of trouble if we stay under 80k for a long time.
753  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 12, 2024, 02:14:48 AM
Whatever dumbassery there is in the legacy media, at least it is very clear that they are still talking about Bitcoin.

Certainly not Ethereum, not Vitalik walking zombie deep eye socket man, not BNB, not Solana and not bearded ape asswiped NFTs.

Other "cryptos" are not even worth mentioning here as they are bound to fall off the radar in a few years whichever position they currently enjoy on coinmarketcap.

Most never even regained their previous highs whilst we have seen BTC's new ATHs. At what point is it not clear to people that they are shitcoins?

Just because it is a shitcoin does not mean it has absolutely no use. You can leverage Bitcoin to short shitcoins and make more Bitcoin Tongue. When exiting your position you can figuratively feel the frustration and confusion of shitcoin investors who still have not realized that whenever Bitcoin goes down, shitcoins go down even harder. And shitcoins always go down except during bull markets when they get to ride daddy Bitcoin's coat tails. And if the shitcoiner gets lucky, they own whichever shitcoin is getting pumped on that day(Which totally is not just the devs trying to make their shitcoin look popular, I mean, who would do that? Roll Eyes).

No shit coin should be purchased or traded for.

Mining them at a profit and quickly converting to btc is the only way to deal with shit coins.
754  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 12, 2024, 02:08:26 AM

tick tock to the moon
755  Economy / Speculation / Re: Top 20 days for Bitcoin on: March 12, 2024, 01:47:26 AM
Hoping for many more days of high numbers.

11+2 = 13 solid days over 60k

and multiple ATH's in a row.
756  Economy / Speculation / Re: Top 20 days for Bitcoin on: March 12, 2024, 12:41:41 AM
Rank   BitStamp  USD/BTC
   1  2024-03-11  71360 USD
   2  2024-03-10  69255 USD
   3  2024-03-09  68393 USD
   4  2024-03-08  68221 USD
   5  2021-11-09  67483 USD
   6  2024-03-07  67191 USD
   7  2024-03-06  66315 USD
   8  2021-11-10  66256 USD
   9  2024-03-04  65970 USD
  10  2021-11-08  65762 USD
  11  2021-10-20  65702 USD
  12  2021-11-15  65064 USD
  13  2024-03-05  65034 USD
  14  2021-11-11  64931 USD
  15  2021-10-21  64502 USD
  16  2021-11-14  64456 USD
  17  2021-11-13  64113 USD
  18  2021-11-12  63900 USD
  19  2021-04-14  63315 USD
  20  2021-10-19  63168 USD
  21  2021-04-15  62949 USD
  22  2021-10-25  62745 USD
  23  2021-11-03  62608 USD
  24  2024-03-03  62489 USD
  25  2021-11-02  62447 USD
  26  2021-11-07  62216 USD
  27  2021-04-13  62143 USD
  28  2024-02-29  62117 USD
  29  2024-03-01  62097 USD
  30  2021-10-22  62069 USD
  31  2024-03-02  62027 USD
  32  2021-10-26  61895 USD
  33  2021-11-04  61789 USD
  34  2021-10-18  61675 USD
  35  2021-10-30  61605 USD
  36  2021-10-29  61534 USD
  37  2021-04-16  61478 USD
  38  2021-11-05  61449 USD
  39  2021-11-01  61302 USD
  40  2021-10-16  61253 USD
  41  2021-04-17  61112 USD
  42  2021-10-31  61085 USD
  43  2021-10-23  61064 USD
  44  2021-11-06  60862 USD
  45  2021-11-16  60734 USD
  46  2021-10-17  60685 USD
  47  2021-10-24  60481 USD
  48  2021-03-14  60429 USD
  49  2024-02-28  60403 USD
  50  2021-04-12  60169 USD
  51  2021-10-15  60134 USD
  52  2021-10-28  60131 USD
  53  2021-04-10  60037 USD
  54  2021-11-17  59813 USD
  55  2021-04-11  59797 USD
  56  2021-03-13  59670 USD
  57  2021-04-02  59378 USD
  58  2021-10-27  59370 USD
  59  2021-11-21  59185 USD
  60  2021-04-01  58826 USD
  61  2021-03-20  58820 USD
  62  2021-11-20  58791 USD
  63  2021-11-18  58687 USD
  64  2021-05-08  58665 USD
  65  2021-03-31  58640 USD
  66  2021-04-03  58586 USD
  67  2021-03-18  58586 USD
  68  2021-03-30  58473 USD
  69  2021-11-25  58316 USD
  70  2021-04-06  58307 USD
  71  2021-03-19  58307 USD
  72  2021-04-05  58289 USD
  73  2021-04-09  58229 USD
  74  2021-05-03  57906 USD
  75  2021-05-09  57902 USD
  76  2021-05-01  57825 USD
  77  2021-11-29  57636 USD
  78  2021-10-14  57623 USD
  79  2021-04-04  57572 USD
  80  2021-11-30  57431 USD
  81  2021-12-01  57380 USD
  82  2021-11-22  57339 USD
  83  2021-04-08  57275 USD
  84  2021-03-29  57263 USD
  85  2021-03-21  57207 USD
  86  2021-11-19  57203 USD
  87  2021-02-21  57158 USD
  88  2021-03-15  57137 USD
  89  2021-05-07  57025 USD
  90  2021-11-23  57006 USD
  91  2021-05-10  56970 USD
  92  2021-05-06  56806 USD
  93  2021-10-11  56802 USD
  94  2021-05-02  56788 USD
  95  2024-02-27  56716 USD
  96  2021-03-12  56712 USD
  97  2021-11-24  56694 USD
  98  2021-04-07  56684 USD
  99  2021-12-02  56681 USD
 100  2021-03-11  56339 USD
    * * Chart Explanation * *


Nice New ATH
757  Economy / Speculation / Re: Top 20 days for Bitcoin on: March 12, 2024, 12:31:07 AM
77777.77 next

Lucky number?

I prefer the Chinese lucky number: 88888.88

Edit: Hello DirtyK

We're patiently waiting.  Cool

I have a few slices to sell at:

77777.77
80808.00
88888.88
90909.00
758  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 2024 Diff thread happy New Years. on: March 12, 2024, 12:27:47 AM
Only a few years ago eff was 30-40w/T, now is less that 20w/T That is hardly 'little' progress.

Well actually going as far back as 4-5 years then it's 2019 era, the most efficient publicly available mining gear at the time was Antminer S17 which did 56th for 2500w, this puts it 44.6W/th, fast-forward to today, we got Antminer S21 which does 200th for 3500W, which is 17.5th, that's a little over 60% improvement in efficiency which is HUGE, one would also assume that mining gears manufacturers have already acquired more experience and skills to make the overall production cost lower.

We may not get another 60% improvement in the coming 4 to 5 years, at least not on a single-chip level, but if they can make them cheap enough, they can always stack more chips and run them at lower speeds to achieve better efficiency.

I under clocked s17pro to 42th and pulled as little as 1300 watts that was 31 watts.

So far no one has shown me an s21 at 3500 watts I have seen a

200 th s21 doing 3575 watts = 17.875 watts a th

so we went from 31 to 17.875 that is a 42.5% improvement

 2019 to 2024 five years time we are better.

BTW Fuzzy is correct that more efficiency does not help miners much.
759  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 2024 Diff thread happy New Years. on: March 11, 2024, 11:13:16 PM
Have we now hit a new "All Time High" on BTC price (roughly $72.5K)?

That seems like it will spur mining effort, at least until the halving.
fomo is not here for mining.

we are at 12 cents a th we were at 13 cents a th due to high fees back in December.

The month of December was better for mining btc then it is right now. as we had 3 coins of fees per block
we now have only 0.30 coins of fees each block

and the hammer is coming in under 40 days. (1/2 ing)

Meanwhile the diff is jumping over 6%. I smell a bull trap

Quote
https://newhedge.io/terminal/bitcoin/difficulty-estimator

Latest Block:   834282  (a few seconds ago)

Current Pace:   106.3422%  (1675 / 1575.10 expected, 99.9 ahead)

Previous Difficulty:   81725299822043.22                           
Current Difficulty:   79351228131136.77                           
Next Difficulty:   between 84234208206445 and 84387155575890
Next Difficulty Change:   between +6.1536% and +6.3464%
Previous Retarget:   February 29, 2024 at 7:45 PM  (-2.9049%)
Next Retarget (earliest):   Thursday at 12:42 AM  (in 2d 5h 26m 37s)
Next Retarget (latest):   Thursday at 1:17 AM  (in 2d 6h 1m 1s)
Projected Epoch Length:   between 13d 3h 57m 39s and 13d 4h 32m 3s
760  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 11, 2024, 11:07:47 PM
Quote
I've been thinking a lot about these ETFs and running the possible scenarios through my head.

I'm increasing my probability of a speculative attack on the USD to 30-40% by the end of 2025.

What might this look like?

There will be a gargantuan, constant bid on Bitcoin, as a flight to safety out of all fiat currencies. A bid from the hand of God himself.

George Soros breaking the Bank of England will be a drop in the ocean compared to what is coming.

The attack vector here will come from all angles, this is what makes my probability so high:

- From the corporate angle: companies see what Saylor is doing with issuing more and more debt to buy bitcoin, and copy him.

- Countries see the success of El Salvador in buying bitcoin and copy them. The Saudis also start bidding, causing other countries to bid in secret for national security reasons.

- Individuals see viral Tik Tok campaigns explaining that the cost of living is so high because of the currency. They buy because they are screwed anyway. Financial nihilism. The zeitgeist is perfect for this.

- Banks see customer deposits flee to crypto exchanges / ETFs, prompting them to offer custodial solutions.

- Politicians looking to make a name for themselves realise the younger generation wants Bitcoin, not Fed Coin.

- Hedge funds realise the US is increasing debt by $1 trn every 100 days and make it publicly known that they are taking very large positions in Bitcoin, encouraging others to do the same.

There is no real precedence for any of this.

We are talking about a global flight to safety on a scale that is so enormous it should scare you to even consider this as a 1% probability event, let alone 30-40%.

If you see what I see, there are not any words in the English language to describe how big of a deal this is.

We are talking about a tidal wave of money all trying to escape the fiat system simultaneously, into a digital asset with a fixed supply.

Where we are going, there will be no ask.

If this eventuates, it will become a systemic risk to the global financial system as it is currently structured, forcing the G20 to convene in a Bretton Woods 2.0 meeting to rejig The Game.

It seems to me that there is blood in the water here.

The sharks are coming...

They can see the kill.

They want a feast.

And they fucking deserve it.
https://twitter.com/rationalaussie/status/1767216888936071427?t=SlyoLg9f5DR4cI2VInoZ1A&s=19


I found those scenarios to be unlikely in a short time frame (1-2 years).
Most likely, we would pull up to a significant % of the gold market cap of about 12 tril (anywhere between 30 and 50%) aka $4-6 tril or 200-300K/btc.
My favorite number, if someone asks, is currently $236K/btc.

I think the flight will be into:

gold
silver
platinum
palladium

then btc

Maybe stones like ruby emeralds and diamonds.

But it still does not mean dump your btc.

I am hoping for my btc savings to become higher than my wife's 'safe' 401k by 2026
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