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Other / Meta / Re: Merry Christmas to the Forum
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on: December 24, 2023, 02:49:10 AM
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Yeah we did the cards and did the tree 🌲 We will be having a few for Christmas diner.
So to all of you on the forum
Merry Christmas.🎁
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Other / Meta / Re: Merry Christmas to the Forum
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on: December 24, 2023, 01:45:08 AM
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Happy new year, but to be historically accurate, Jesus was never born on 25th of December, there is an ancient religion of sun worshippers, they used to celebrate the winter solstice as a sign of their sun god rebirth, unfortunately they have managed to slide their beliefs into the beliefs of christianity. Just saying FYI.
Well a merry fucking christmas to you😀
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: December 24, 2023, 01:16:10 AM
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santa drove by me my wife and i watched him he went next store and
left a candy cane to our neighbor susan but he did not stop by
why oh why santa did you pass my wife and I is it something bad?
So sad that santa left us on our porch today well tomorrow may
be a better day. maybe santa has planned a large green candle 🕯️
wo and myself are asking for 50k on christmas day yeah!
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Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [∞ YH] solo.ckpool.org 2% fee solo mining 279 blocks solved!
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on: December 24, 2023, 01:05:40 AM
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Good afternoon guys- weird problem any ideas? I have been running 3 old T15s on the pool for over a year and a few months ago I upgraded and got a used S19j Pro 96T and been running that instead for better power efficiency. Just for fun I popped over to a SHA256d MAZA Solo pool yesterday so I get the thrill of seeing a few blocks of something get found by my miners. The Difficulty was only 9M and the time to find for my ~100 TH was supposed to be less than 2 minutes but I let it go for 3 hours with nothing to show and other miners with only 20 ish TH were catching all the blocks-it was showing correct hash rate and millions of shares accepted... I switched to my old test-unit T15 with only one hash board (7TH) and BAM I hit a block ... then after 20 minutes another, and another. I put the S19 back on and nothing again for hours... never hitting anything. >>Now I am worried that this S19 miner can't or doesn't report found blocks...The T15 has CGMINER version 4.1.11.1 rwlhr, But i can't see the version in the S19. I upgraded to the newest stock firmware but no help. I know this issue didn't happen directly on this pool BUT I don't want to run a miner on this pool that can't report a found block.. Is there a test pool using CKpool software I can try to test my unit? Do I need to setup a CKpool instance for testing? I want to verify that the miner does report blocks found-
>CK does the CGMINER software running in unit report found blocks above the target or does it report everything and let the pool figure it out and report it?
Thanks
This is an interesting question 7th making multiiple blocks and 100th making no blocks in more than twice the time is very unusual . An extreme long shot in fact. what it means to me is do not trust that s19 mine at a normal pool. muse you t15 miners on ck pool.
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Fear of December dump is fading away - for Bitcoin
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on: December 23, 2023, 10:31:29 PM
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I see the end-of-year pump as something that comes earlier. Let's not forget the recent price jump that just happened, which pushed bitcoin to the place it settled right now, which is $43k and above. We still have time until the end of the year; even if it's just a few hours until 2024, we can still experience some positive price increases. It's happened, so it's not something to worry about, but then again, we can also see a drop in the price as we can't tell what face the market might come with; it's never always certain of what we might expect. With Bitcoin regulating within the $40k range, it's a good sign that if it breaks that $43 price, we might be seeing $50k in price. Even if it's not this year again, early January might be a good time to hit that price.
yeah I see at least 48.1 k in next 10 days. if we go over that we may pull back and take profits
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Finally I did it (I am happy to join).
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on: December 23, 2023, 09:55:43 PM
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It is not about the amount of money or when someone joins the crypto world, it's the cheer that they get in that makes me happy. There are so many people who cheer to be here, and that makes me super happy, we are talking about a lot of people who just ends up taking a plunge in the bitcoin world.
When someone buys bitcoin and that is something that creates a lot of stress for them, I do not find it anything good, I mean I am glad that they still joined even though they fear the risk, but I am not super cheery about that at all. But, when someone joins bitcoin world and get some, and they are super excited and happy about it? Now that really makes me super happy because they are finally in and they are happy about joining as well.
Honestly, I was afraid of the risk but when I came to my right senses, I then realized that there is nothing in life that is not about risk (mostly when one wants to make money but not quick money). That's why I have to zero my mind and risk $1400 worth of 1.7 million in my corrency, at first, I didn't want to buy such a huge amount but as I have zero my mind to risk it, there is no going back (I have risk what I can afford to lose) so there is no going back. One of the reason why I was afraid to invest was because I was, I don't know if I should say scammed or something, I deposited $2k on stepwork, and I was so frustrated because I invested with what I can not afford to lose. This what keep showing anytime I try to access my account. who the fuck is step works?
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Bitcoin / Mining / Re: General Advice on ASIC's
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on: December 23, 2023, 09:46:07 PM
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Being new to mining one very important thing to understand that all crypto coins are NOT the same and most have very different hardware requirements. In short, only 1 is Bitcoin BTC. ALL others are altcoins and most of those are aka crapcoins because they are near worthless...
Bro. calling most of the Altcoins Crap coins is not fair. I understand there are a significant amount of shitcoins out there in the crypto market. but there are tons of Altcoins which are very good. Ethereum, Dogecoin, Altcoin, and many more. Being new to mining one very important thing to understand that all crypto coins are NOT the same and most have very different hardware requirements. In short, only 1 is Bitcoin BTC. ALL others are altcoins and most of those are aka crapcoins because they are near worthless... That said, this is the Bitcoin area and discussions are restricted to only Bitcoin. Period. All questions & discussion for the other coins belongs in the Altcoin areas. As for mining equipment distributors, only buy either direct from the manufacturers or only from their Authorized distributors that are listed on their site. Buying from anywhere else increases risk of being scammed and even more importantly, even if the gear is new it will NOT have a Factory supported warranty unless it bought from the mfgr or one of their Authorized Distributors. Apologies as I just noticed that now, but I do want to do Bitcoin and was thinking of the Bitmain Antminer S19j Pro. I've seen that Whatsminer are better because of features and being bulletproof. I'm just trying to figure to buy the latest and greatest ASIC for Bitcoin or just buy used equipment to get started. I don't recommend to buy used mining equipment. it is much better to buy brand new mining rigs because used rigs don't have any guarantee and you would not know how long would they last. Never say eth is a good coin it is p.o.s and that stands for piece of shit. mr v set back the entire gpu industry with his nonsense. I can't say how much I detest eth and the crap ball mr v owes me 2 eth coins. also this is a btc section not an alt coin section.
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Economy / Computer hardware / Re: WTS brand new Whatsminer and Antminer.
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on: December 23, 2023, 01:38:27 PM
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Price list update 18/12/2023
Whatsminer:
M50 118-120TH 12.5 U/TH M50s 132-138TH 23.U/TH M50s++ 21w 154-162 25.5 U/TH M60 170-174TH 26U/TH
Antminer:
Stock
S19kpro 115T 16U/T
Future:
January Batch S21 200T $23.5/T
Mikey the s21 would be 4700 plus 200 to ship?
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Bitcoin / Mining / Re: General Advice on ASIC's
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on: December 23, 2023, 01:36:50 PM
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If I buy directly from the manufacture is there a 30% import tax to be paid from importing it from China to the USA?
the forum member mikeywith is a good seller for whatsminer https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5440613.0I got 2x m30s and 4x m50s from him they have ways to deal with import taxes some come from Malaysia he will offer you some support if gear breaks and I can help you with setup
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Guys, what's the best Bitcoin wallet for PC these days?
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on: December 23, 2023, 05:07:15 AM
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Well majority of the comments here choose Electrum Desktop wallet well it's a very good wallet, however you have to be very careful when using it for transactions and protect your PC with a very strong Antivirus else it's very risky, let me share one of the experience of using Electrum wallet on my laptop unknowingly I was exposed and vulnerable to some phishing links it took my extra effort to be aware of the attack on laptop I discovered that whenever I wanted to send Bitcoin to another person after coping the receiver BTC Address while pasting on my Electrum wallet I discovered that it's another unknown BTC Address was pasted hadn't it been I was unaware or notice it I would have send the Bitcoin to an hacker so be careful when performing your BTC transactions.
no you don't just use a laptop for 1 purpose run electrum on it. use laptops are cheap enough.
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Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 2023 Diff thread now opened.
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on: December 23, 2023, 05:04:14 AM
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https://newhedge.io/terminal/bitcoin/difficulty-estimatorLatest Block: 822519 (a few seconds ago) Current Pace: 106.7520% (2008 / 1881.00 expected, 127 ahead) Previous Difficulty: 67957790298897.88 Current Difficulty: 67305906902031.39 Next Difficulty: between 71949968207257 and 71950046384725 Next Difficulty Change: between +6.8999% and +6.9000% Previous Retarget: December 9, 2023 at 10:31 PM (-0.9592%) Next Retarget (earliest): Today at 1:16 AM (in 0d 1h 14m 56s) Next Retarget (latest): Today at 1:16 AM (in 0d 1h 14m 57s) Projected Epoch Length: between 13d 2h 44m 53s and 13d 2h 44m 54s so maybe 6.7 to 7% and with a holiday weekend a perfect way to slow mining down and clog the memory pool. Lets see what happens next few days. Maybe nothing much at all as tx could be real slow this weekend due to holiday.
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Economy / Speculation / Re: So new patterns for BTC fees what do they mean does the ˝ ing lose its power
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on: December 23, 2023, 04:50:30 AM
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Whatever happens, however grim we may foresee the future, I guess the best way is still to let the free market decide. For now, miners aren't fee-dependent. So it probably doesn't bother them a lot if the fees rise and fall. Although they must be happy with the current rates. I guess this will continue to be like this for the next 3 halvings, including the one in April next year. However the halving in 2032, in which the reward would only be as low as 0.78125, would probably be a vital point. Unless the price is appropriately high, many might decide to leave the industry. Regardless, is using "artificial means" to force fees higher fair and acceptable?
You suggested that everyone should still continue to look on even as damaging as things are now. Even the fees demand and supply you envisaged have already been hijacked the way I see it and this has nothing to do with halving but greed and selfish interests. As much as I love Bitcoin and what Satoshi planned and proposed, it's not perfect, we can see it evidently with the insane fee we witness these days. This year alone, Bitcoin users have paid insane fees many times, to the point that it has been discouraging people from dealing with the coin thereby finding alternatives. Should we continue to look on and let it continue this way? It might affect the coin in the future, we should stop thinking that because it's the number one it can ever remain like that if there is a lot that discourages businesses around it. I believe that something should be done about this, a thing that would discourage spamming and encourage/compel the miners to accept transactions that are of a certain size/age, something to make them accountable. Leaving everything to work anyhow is what led us to this mess and it's insane and annoying to see transactions this morning at about $25 just because I want to deal with Bitcoin. That is discouraging, a decisive solution is needed at this time. Yeah it is slowing but likely due to holiday weekend. It may pick up again on tuesday.
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: December 23, 2023, 02:06:07 AM
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Big weekend coming up or what?
Wake up on Christmas and see 48k?
Dec 2023 24 25 26
Dec 2022 24 16,796 25 16,847 26 16,842
DEC 2021 24 50,768 25 50,393 26 50,076
Dec 2020 24 23,240 25 23,733 26 26,280
the gain in 2020 from Christmas Day to Boxing Day was very good 10.7%
if we can do that this time we could crack 48k on the 26th of Dec Boxing Day
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: December 22, 2023, 01:44:12 PM
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If you invested $1,000, 10 years ago: Google: $5,000 Facebook: $6,000 Amazon: $7,500 Tesla: $25,000 Bitcoin: $44,000 BMshow us dec 2017 to dec 2023 btc is 19 to 43 so 1000 would be around 2300 google facebook amazon tesla do the math bro or better do btc dec 2012 to dec 2023 10 dollars to 43000 or 1,000 to 4,300,000 so btc is godlike 2012 to 2023 and great 2013 to 2023 and good 2017 to 2023 btc 19.5k dec 2017 44.1k dec 2023 edit : google 53 dec 2017 140 dec 2023 that beats BTC Facebook 176 dec 2017 350 dec 2023 just loses to btc amazon 59 dec 2017 145 dec 2023 that beats BTC Tesla 20 dec 2017 241 dec 2023 that beats BTC Tesla is best dec 2017 to dec 2023 yea, you can always found more favorable dates (I always look at 5-10 years, in this case 8 years): bitcoin $284 July 2015 to $44150 Dec 2023 155X NVDA $4.9 July 2015 to $489 Dec 2023 100X TL;DR both bitcoin and Nvidia had more than 100X in the last 8 years (in both cases starting that period with more than a $billion valuation). If you cherry pick against BTC how about: 19.5 k dec 2017 to 15.9k nov 2022 the 19.5 k dec 2017 to 44k dec 2023 is +14.5% which is a better rate than inflation. but if Jan bring no EFT and we drop to 28k BTC looks weak and if EFT comes and we hit a new ATH in feb at 77,777.77 seven sevens would be a cool new ATH then BTC looks really good. Meanwhile my mining payouts are at about 140% of a block vs 98 or 99% of a block so for me BTC is 1.4 x 44,000 = 61,600 not 44,000. these payouts could last as large miners have a new incentive to jack them. Last 2 months is remarkable
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Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Anyone using NerdMiner?
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on: December 22, 2023, 01:35:04 PM
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I'm looking to get back into mining in 2024 and was considering NerdMiner as a an option to get started with.
What are peoples experiences with USB miners and small miners like this?
Is this a waste of money, should I be looking elsewhere?
It is beyond a waste of money. Buy a usb stick from geckominers. https://altairtech.io/product/gekkoscience-compac-f-200g/ here is 1 seller $189 and 200gb and burns 10 watts or so you item is 50 and 50kbs and burns 3 watts or so. the gecko is 20,000 times the power. If you live in the USA I would hook you up with an s9 modded to run 1 board at 300 watts it would act as a small fairly quiet space heater. I have a thread on it some where.
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Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: Mempool fees and Solutions
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on: December 22, 2023, 01:02:42 PM
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Doesn't really help much because you still need to open and fund the channel and close it eventually. Both are on-chain transactions and require those currently expensive on-chain fees.
But, maybe that's the only cure. You cannot fit everyone on-chain. If history of cryptocurrencies has taught us something, it's this. I agree that a regulated block size increase might mitigate the problem, but only temporarily. The real solution has to come from a second layer, and sadly, I don't see lightning being that one. Introducing censorship to lower the fees is definitely not an option. I prefer having terabytes of Ordinals blockchain than that. If the lightning network is not the second layer solution to Bitcoin, then what is the 2nd layer solution that exists at the moment? Nothing I guess Though the miners may be liking the situation as they get a higher reward on every blocked mine but for the end user (most of us ) would be waiting for the mempool fee to normalize to transact using Bitcoin or some may switch to other coins (for the time being) for cheaper transactions? Unless it is necessary to send Bitcoin, or those rich bodies to whom high fees do not matter, no one would be using the Bitcoin network at the moment. your solution is join the exchange kraken do kyc and keep your small change deals with btc on it. do kyc deposit cash buy btc use their LN do not keep a lot on the exchange I also think you can join nicehash do kyc deposit btc from the kraken use their LN If you do 10 moves a month it would be $250 or more on the main chain If you Join Kraken and kyc then join nicehash and kyc send cash to kraken buy btc at kraken send some btc to nicehash you have 2 LN account to use. "Of course the companies control your btc not you and you did kyc" so do not do a lot of coin 10% of your secure wallet should be enough. maybe less if you have a lot of coins
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Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Centralization in mining.
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on: December 22, 2023, 12:46:08 PM
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Let us see what will happen when Tether and Ocean that former Twitter CEO raised funds for will start operation. Tether said they are investing $500 million into bitcoin mining.
At $20/th even assuming al goes into gear and not in wages, legal expenses, datacenter build, fees and many more you will get 25exas, that's 4% of the current hashrate. They are attacking right now. It is fee hike attack. They do not need 51% to do it.
A 51% attack would be stupid as it would kill btc. So do a fee attack. foundry makes 48 blocks a day. say they deliberately make only 40 via downclock they save power and drive fees up. but if fees raise by 1.5 btc and they make 40 blocks that is sixty coins extra. they lost 8 blocks at maybe 6.75 coins that is 54 coins . a gain of six coins and huge power savings.
You're forgetting that by Foundry not mining those blocks increases the epoch time, so their other gear will mine a lot more time for the same result with diminished returns, so if there is no real power savings here, you're forcing 90% of the network gear to find the same stuff as 100% would have done normally, so you're going to have to spend more time doing it, burning more power, 15 instead of 14 days but not gaining proportionally extra blocks with the remaining online hash. Sorry Phil, doesn't make sense to force fees up and earn more by not earning at all and spending more on power. Besides, block data doesn't match that scenario all https://explorer.btc.com/btc/pool/29it does match. slow first 5 days fast last 9 days. end of day 5 -1%. end of 14 days +3 or 4%
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: December 22, 2023, 03:53:15 AM
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If you invested $1,000, 10 years ago: Google: $5,000 Facebook: $6,000 Amazon: $7,500 Tesla: $25,000 Bitcoin: $44,000 BMshow us dec 2017 to dec 2023 btc is 19 to 43 so 1000 would be around 2300 google facebook amazon tesla do the math bro or better do btc dec 2012 to dec 2023 10 dollars to 43000 or 1,000 to 4,300,000 so btc is godlike 2012 to 2023 and great 2013 to 2023 and good 2017 to 2023 btc 19.5k dec 2017 44.1k dec 2023 edit : google 53 dec 2017 140 dec 2023 that beats BTC Facebook 176 dec 2017 350 dec 2023 just loses to btc amazon 59 dec 2017 145 dec 2023 that beats BTC Tesla 20 dec 2017 241 dec 2023 that beats BTC Tesla is best dec 2017 to dec 2023
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Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Why was the block size not increased?
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on: December 22, 2023, 03:46:16 AM
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flexible block size were proposed, where the maximum weight is adjusted by demand or there are incentives to miners to adjust the blocksize carefully if needed.
This would be better than treating transactions differently, in my opinion. However, it has to be implemented similarly to how XMR does it. Raising the block size would result in a reduction in the block subsidy; otherwise, whatever the max cap is will always be activated by greedy miners. This would lead to larger pools absorbing all available well-paying transactions, leaving smaller transactions with almost nothing. If we have three pools—A (45%), B (45%), and C (10%)—block C, with the current protocol, is almost always guaranteed to mine 10% of the transactions. So, if there are 100 transactions paying 0.1 BTC each, and each block can only take 10 of them, it would, on average, make 1 BTC out of that. However, if pools A and B can increase the limit from 10 to 15, pool C (which only finds 1 in 10 blocks) will be left with nothing but dust. The current way relies solely on luck; a small miner may hit a 5 BTC fee block, whereas large miners who find twice as many blocks may not get 5 BTC combined. In other words, as of now, potential rewards from fees are based more on "luck and market conditions" than your hashrate. The other model will shift that, making it more about your hashrate and leaving little room for luck. However, looking at Suzanne5223's comment above this one, if you read what user Kiba wrote right below Satoshi's post, he said: "If we upgrade now, we don't have to convince as much people later if the bitcoin economy continues to grow." Reading this 13 years later, it certainly makes a whole lot of sense; it's pretty difficult to do now. @philipma1957 I agree that leaving a small amount of BTC for emergency cases like this in somebody else's custody may not be a bad idea. My only issue is with the KYC part; I know many people are okay with KYC-ing themselves, but I try to avoid that as much as I possibly can. If you live in the USA they fucking own you yeah real free. free to pay fed income tax ----------- fuck with this possible jail time and likely lose my pension while in jail state income tax --------- " " " " " " trump import tax --------- " " " " " " not sure what penalties for this one. local town property tax. --- take my home if I don't pay county property tax. ------ take my home " state property tax. -------- take my home " I am so KYC'd it is a Joke.
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: December 22, 2023, 03:40:00 AM
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Bitcoin is having a nice run but with its mempool issues currently you can really see the effect on higher throughput blockchains. Solana and ADA seem to be crushing it as a result. I hope Bitcoin can get this figured out. It is way too early in the cycle to be having these issues. Makes you wonder who these people are making transactions currently.
I have used some XMR and LTC recently ( which were quite fast and cheap), it is almost impossible to move btc now. Curiously, those coins are not performing well... that's prorbably because poeple dont HODL these coins, they just use them to send value around fast and cheep. ahh fuck deserves a merit for a pretty good answer. Hate giving out points to newbies on the WO.
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