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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: December 18, 2023, 12:08:05 AM
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I don't know. This is madness. There is a second-layer shitcoin market that's currently all the rage on bitcoin, but the bubble has to pop at some point. Its gonna be brutal for them, good for everyone else. Actually this is a good thing. Btc = a large t-bill do not make small moves with it. Ltc and Doge = small value moves. So buy small amounts of LTC And DOGE for small money moves. Stack btc at an exchange until it is at least 1000 value then move it to you wallet. 1000 moved for 20 bucks is not the end of the world. Fuck shitcoins. Have you heard of lightning network? As for miners (me) this is a good christmas. 🎄
BTW fees for btc will never be under 5 sats for extend periods of time. once the ½ ing happens.
I know of five or six ways big pools can jack fees at a profit to them.
If a dummy like me knows them the pools also know them.
Simplest one downclock you gear on the first 3 days of a jump. You save on power bigly. You clog the pool.
Fees go up. ⬆️ On fourth day put your gear on full speed.
You pull in bigger fees and more blocks.
That is an unstoppable method. ( I can not conceive of a fix for this)
And that method works better and better as each ½ ing passes.
Bitcoin is broken, and miners are gaming the system? You heard it here first. Right? Oh and on a sidenote, litecoin and doggie coin are our saviors. It used to be that Ibonds were going to save us, now it is litecoin and doggie coin, and surely you have made those prognostications previously.. which goes to show that you have been a stronger soothsayer than previously thought... anyhow, your comment about not knowing about any solution seems to show that you have little to no imagination or you are just a pessimist when it comes to various ways to build on bitcoin, whether there might be some software tweaks or various second layers that do not necessarily hinge upon being distracted with shitcoins. driving fees up
I think this is what's currently holding back the Bitcoin rally. The amount of transactions piling up in the mempool is indeed becoming a problem. The average transaction today seems to be costing more than $50. That's a lot of money to spend just to be able to spend money. As a vendor who sells items that cost less than that for BTC I can tell you that there are indeed consequences in the Bitcoin economy when this happens. It's typically something you see happen at the peak of cycles, so it's troublesome that outrageous fees are already hurting the blockchain. Maybe someday people will break Bitcoin free from it's Blockstream chains and let it do what it was meant to.Oh? Blockstream is the problem? Who would-a-thunk? Shit.. dee cornz is controlled/dominated by Blockstream, and perhaps keeping dee blocks too widdo, too? Seems like I have heard those kinds of concerns, previously... Hm? By the way, many of us should realize that BTC prices do not necessarily go UPpity without various corrections from time to time, and sometimes corrections may well be in the 20% to 30% territory, even during a bull run, and sometimes they even go as high as 50%, even during a bull run.. Who would have had thunk? So far we have had a correction of around 10% down to $40,181 (from about a week ago).. and yeah it is looking like we might well possibly be getting greater than 10%.. and maybe such greater than 10% might happen, and maybe it won't? At the same time, I recall BTC prices being in the $26k/$27k territory right around 2 months ago, so the fact that we had hardly gotten any correction since Mid-October, that should be a noteworthy dynamic that shows that maybe a greater than 10% correction could happen? How much greater? who knows? As far as transaction fees interfering with the ability to justify transactions of less than $500, yes there likely is some truth to that, and so yes it could be difficult to know how long these levels of fees are going to be able to persist. Someone is paying for those kinds of fees because transactions are still being processed at those higher rates. So yes, for the little guy and for the regular transactions, there seem to be some temporary obstacles in regards to cost, and those people who have several options are better off than those who might ONLY have bitcoin as an option... and surely some might resort to transacting on shitcoins, yet I would think that these ongoingly high fees should be inspiring the consideration of various other bitcoin-related options and motivations to build various other bitcoin-related options.. Did anyone believe that there are not any costs in terms of transacting on bitcoin and surely some inconsistencies in the fees.. It may scare some people out of the BTC that they own, and it might deter others from buying BTC, but what does that mean for regular (or longer-term) BTC HODLers? Coins will be cheaper for longer.. so anyone who knows about bitcoin should not be deterred from continuing to stack sats, even though they might not be able to transact with low fees for the time being. Anyone who knows about bitcoin should not let these kinds of obstacles deter them from realizing that they better be sufficiently/adequately preparing their lil selfies for UPpity.. just in case, even though downity and/or sideways might be in the works.. too.. maybe .. and maybe not.. Never said it was broken. Said it is truly different this time.
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Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 2023 Diff thread now opened.
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on: December 17, 2023, 10:58:40 PM
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Christmas spirit!!
This has been usually the worst time for BTC, whenever we approach the year-end, things collapse, I assume with fees being this high it must feel terrible to many Bitcoin users, price seems to be holding, and miners are having the best time, times they have not seen this year, not that they desperately need it given the continuous expansion without the fee raise, but ya, at least, small/home miners could really use that little extra profit. And the big farms can do this with ease. Just down clock for 4 days clog the mempool then raise clocks and grab high fee blocks for the last 10 days of the jump. How many times have we heard " this time it is different " well this ½ ing it will be different than any other time. I wonder how long before the btc maxes realize how fucked they are by doing that.. So my L7's are whaling my gpu's are waking back up my s19's are whaling dec will be a really good month. What makes me laugh are the fools that think ordinals are to blame. they are a mere tool. the issue is the tx carrying power of : btc mined sha256 6 blocks an hour. vs doge/ltc scrypt 72 blocks an hour
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: December 17, 2023, 10:07:05 PM
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Faith is not all bad. It's where you put it that counts. Faith in code, not god!
Bitcoin going up, And then down, and then sideways... Crystal Ball told me!
A piece of paper. Two alphanumeric strings. No firmware updates!
ETF or not, Expect a 6-digit price, In under a year!
Disney going woke... I used to read Mickey Mouse. They raped my childhood!
Banks are here to stay. Bitcoin is here to stay, too. Equilibrium!
Nice trick there, Philip! Thanks for educating us, On mining secrets.
#7wodigestsundayhaikus
but economics is ruling the show now mines are driving fees up
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Other / Off-topic / FREE WAY TO TEST if your microwave has proper shielding
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on: December 17, 2023, 10:01:43 PM
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FIRST OFF UNPLUG IT Put you cell phone in the microwave close the door and call your cell phone. If your cell phone rings the microwave is defective and is leaking microwave energy. Once you test it : REMEMBER TO REMOVE YOUR PHONE
If the phone rang inside you need a new microwave or you need to stay at least 12 feet away from it if you use it.
I am curious to see if you do the test what your results were.
All of my phones did not ring.
4g LTE or 5g were blocked by the microwave's faraday shields.
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Jpg monkeys are making the fees impossible? Just use a meme coin!
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on: December 17, 2023, 09:50:43 PM
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For little amount of bitcoin, lightning network can be used. Wallet of Satoshi and Mini Muun wallet can be used if you can not open channel. If channel is not opened, no on chain transaction fee that eiuld be paid.
Also for small amount of coins, you can still use those altcoins pegged to bitcoin price. There are many of them like those on Binance Smart Chain. They are not reliable like bitcoin but no option in time like this.
Bitcoin fee is too high. What are bitcoin developers doing. They need to do something about this.
how do you fix the 12 to 1 advantage scrypt has over btc. what ever you do both doge and ltc can copy it. My suggestion is very simple end the dust for two jumps. See what happens. no send of btc under 0.0001 can go on the chain. maybe it works. we ended the 0 sat sends a while back. right now LN is not ready for prime time. So shunt the sends to other chains see if it works. The main pools and big miners have a plan.. this is simply testing for the plan. blocks drop to 3.25 in april how do I make fees stay over 2 or better three coins. pretend we should be 6.25+.75= 7 coins a block that becomes 6.25 + 2.75 = 9 coins a block go to the next ½ ing 3.125+ .875 = 4 coins they can get 3.125 + 2.875 = 6 coins a block so the reality is we drop from 7 with no fee manipulation to 6 with fee manipulation . basically no ½ for the miners. test is their early testing.
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: You will burn
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on: December 17, 2023, 09:37:55 PM
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You will only get burned if you prioritize altcoins over bitcoin. But if you are wise in your investment and you maximize bitcoin investment over other shit coins or altcoins, then you have nothing to worry because in the end, you will still be more profitable with bitcoin even without the presence of altcoins. Altcoins are just a pump and dump scheme, so you can't trust majority of them that they will sustain their value for long.
However, if you invest into altcoins for short term and with an amount that you are comfortable losing, then most likely that will not create problems for you. There will only be problems if you focus on altcoins because of their too good to be true promises that are most of the time fails in the end. So always invest wit caution and always stick to bitcoin.
I mine BTC and Ltc/Doge I hold far more btc than the other two. but back in the day When doge was cheap I hodl a lot of it. I made really good money with it.
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Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: NFTs in the Bitcoin blockchain - Ordinal Theory
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on: December 17, 2023, 07:11:13 PM
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the natural order is
BTC move big wealth LTC + doge move small wealth
yeah, i think we all realize there's some altcoins with tiny fees. but to some people that kind of makes them feel like a traitor to bitcoin. they thought they could use bitcoin for all their banking needs. well, if you're willing to pay then i guess you can! but lesson #1 is the blockchain doesn't care about how expensive it is for people to make a transaction it really couldn't care less. otherwise it would have been designed such that the fee could never be more than a certain amount in US dollars. I realize that doing that would require an oracle of some kind and people would be against that though... Block explorers will be compensated in the future . With fees of a thousandth of a cent per tx , it will be nothing for a user that wants to check his tx to pay 0.01 $ per check .
With bitcoin the way it is right now, that doesn't seem logistically possible to do, aka, micropayments. Unless you as the node operator accept Litecoin. or some other altcoin with low fees. but that would be like encouraging people to use Litecoin instead of bitcoin... No you simply don't understand the economics involved here. foundry (biggest pool) does not need nfts. they own 33% of the hashrate. Forgot now think April block reward is 3.125 coins. fees are ? Look at last 2 days of fees below https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5431167.msg63341261#msg63341261<snip> block fees 4.60 5.29 2.49 3.47 3.04 3.95 3.20 2.37 3.24 3.43 2.87 3.01 3.98 3.57 4.60 4.45 3.11 3.73 4.36 4.38 4.38 4.00 3.62 3.41 3.01 2.63 2.56 4.29 2.83 2.79 2.90 3.19 3.25 2.65 3.60 3.93 4.75 2.94 2.84 2.55 3,58 3.70 3.65 3.56 3.96 4.64 5.40 4.51 4.77 5.55 5.55 6.19 5.44 5.71 6.36 6.76 6.89 7.86 6.36 5.83 5.96 5.06 4.17 4.07 3.94 3.40 4.74 3.24 3.09 3.67 3.41 3,41 3.29 3.30 4.00 2.98 3.85 4.81 3.83 3.83 3.83 3.75 3.46 4.58 4.18 3.46 3.57 4.60 3.19 4.36 3.08 2.56 3.65 3.51 3.21 3.27 3.62 3.19 3.80 3.14 3.41 3.62 3.43 3.71 3.91 3.57 3.45 3.96 3.57 3.45 3.96 4.72 3.67 3.82 4.52 4.46 4.11 0 >>>>>>>>>> ant pool 3.99 4.08 3.94 4.46 3.53 3.64 3.88 3.99 4.05 5.26 4.02 4.41. 4.25 4.29 4.73 4.75 5.00 6.01 5.88 6.51 5.54 6.30. 5.00 5.09 5.39 6.25 4.73 5.05 5.73 5.38 6.07 0 >>>>> AntPool 5.41 5.35 6.66 6.08 5.53 5.84 6.24 6.61 7.74 7.05, 5.56 5.91 6.15 5.91 5.99 6.45 6.74 6.93 7.38 7.41, 8.05 7.31 7.16 4.87 4.84 4.84 4.07 4.19 4.61 4.08. 4.08 4.80 4.48 4.22 4.66 3.88 3.76 4.19 2.76 4.13, 3.04 3.05 3.22 3.17 3.56 3.38 3.99 3.85 3.13 3.21, 3.56 3.38 3.73 3.57 3.79 3.77 4.21 4.58 3.89 4.29, 3.03 3.21 3.11 2.30 2.54 2.33 2.25 2.78 2.33 2.67, 2.33 2.66 2.59 3.03 3.26 2.92 2.23 2.37 2.57 2.98, 2.40 2.85 2.38 2.61 2.57 1.68 1.77 2.17 foundry in May can simply down clock all its gear and not mine 48 blocks a day. Say they mine 30 blocks a day for 4 days. that clogs the mempool fees go to 3 or 4 coins crank the gear back up and mine 48 blocks a day So for 4 days they lose 72 blocks of say 4 coins with the fees or 288 coins OMG then for 10 days they mine 48 block with boosted fees of say 1 goes to 4 that is 10 x 48 = 480 blocks with 2 or 3 extra coins or 960 to 1440 more coins and they have a drop in power expense I am not making this up it is real math. It is why 2023 has been the highest fee years every in sats and in cash value. but 2024 will be higher.
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Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 2023 Diff thread now opened.
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on: December 17, 2023, 06:40:07 PM
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So, hibernating like bears already? Wake up!!!! Everything is positive! Hashrate growth is Current Pace: 103.9475% (1136 / 1092.86 expected, 43.14 ahead)
Fees are skyrocketing https://mempool.space/block/000000000000000000008ed27e5d18709c450b78367df4bfbf37dd7b9a1fb6ecTotal fees 7.861 BTC $329,417 Christmas spirit!! Or somethin like that for the 80% of the rest of the globe who doesn't have Christmas! Imagine we wouldn't have a positive adjustment and so 40 less blocks, how would the fees look like tomorrow afternoon/ night? Yummmy yummy!!! yeah and part of the method is down clock all of foundry first 750 to 1000 blocks. clog the mempool then push gear the last 1000 blocks rack in the high fees. from blockchair.com block fees
4.60 5.29 2.49 3.47 3.04 3.95 3.20 2.37 3.24 3.43 2.87 3.01 3.98 3.57 4.60 4.45 3.11 3.73 4.36 4.38 4.38 4.00 3.62 3.41 3.01 2.63 2.56 4.29 2.83 2.79 2.90 3.19 3.25 2.65 3.60 3.93 4.75 2.94 2.84 2.55 3,58 3.70 3.65 3.56 3.96 4.64 5.40 4.51 4.77 5.55 5.55 6.19 5.44 5.71 6.36 6.76 6.89 7.86 6.36 5.83 5.96 5.06 4.17 4.07 3.94 3.40 4.74 3.24 3.09 3.67 3.41 3,41 3.29 3.30 4.00 2.98 3.85 4.81 3.83 3.83 3.83 3.75 3.46 4.58 4.18 3.46 3.57 4.60 3.19 4.36 3.08 2.56 3.65 3.51 3.21 3.27 3.62 3.19 3.80 3.14 3.41 3.62 3.43 3.71 3.91 3.57 3.45 3.96 3.57 3.45 3.96 4.72 3.67 3.82 4.52 4.46 4.11 0 >>>>>>>>>> ant pool 3.99 4.08 3.94 4.46 3.53 3.64 3.88 3.99 4.05 5.26 4.02 4.41. 4.25 4.29 4.73 4.75 5.00 6.01 5.88 6.51 5.54 6.30. 5.00 5.09 5.39 6.25 4.73 5.05 5.73 5.38 6.07
0 >>>>> AntPool
5.41 5.35 6.66 6.08 5.53 5.84 6.24 6.61 7.74 7.05, 5.56 5.91 6.15 5.91 5.99 6.45 6.74 6.93 7.38 7.41, 8.05 7.31 7.16 4.87 4.84 4.84 4.07 4.19 4.61 4.08. 4.08 4.80 4.48 4.22 4.66 3.88 3.76 4.19 2.76 4.13, 3.04 3.05 3.22 3.17 3.56 3.38 3.99 3.85 3.13 3.21, 3.56 3.38 3.73 3.57 3.79 3.77 4.21 4.58 3.89 4.29, 3.03 3.21 3.11 2.30 2.54 2.33 2.25 2.78 2.33 2.67, 2.33 2.66 2.59 3.03 3.26 2.92 2.23 2.37 2.57 2.98, 2.40 2.85 2.38 2.61 2.57 1.68 1.77 2.17
nice run for about 2 days of blocks around 50% fees
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Bitcoin’s Mempool statistics
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on: December 17, 2023, 06:16:43 PM
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Actually I have been doing some research if I can get it, but it seems as though it wasn't on record, I can't get it anywhere, it's only from 2017 till date that is available, but check this if it might be helpful.
fees were dirt cheap so no one tracked them.
Okay, so it seems to be more of a tracking issue and for whatever reason this only starts in 2017 but technically this data should be available to scrape and put into a graph (since we can look it up manually as data in the Blockchain is available for everyone). And to conclude: For earlier bull markets, substantial fees didn't seem to be a problem (as only 2013 / 2014 should be relevant here), in opposition to the crypto winter late 2014 - late 2016). But what we can see in the chart from Jochen Hoenicke, even in January 2017, there was substantial weight in the Mempool. So probably, this increase has been rather sharp end of 2016, probably? I punched in block 444,444 about dec 21 2016 12.5 coins around 9953 usd 0.8 fees. around 647 usd so you can punch in blocks 444,444 - 446,000 every 10th one
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: December 17, 2023, 06:10:09 PM
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I think it is to a certain extent. Take this case I a wealthy guy want at least 💯 thousand btc cost is 100,000 x 42,000 = 4,200,000,000 Or I set up foundery world largest pools. I ban anyone that has under 20ph in btc miners. I get investors in on it and I create the current setup we see. even if I pay 75 cents on the dollar to hit the rewards. I boosted the fees bigly and for now I get a block with 2 or 3 in fees along with 6 or 8-9 coins a block. A deal for cheap power = 2- 3 cents s19xps at 2500 s21s at 3500 I will get a ton of cheap coins. best is: that you the none miner have very little recourse. Buy btc from an exchange as much as you can and move to a wallet at 1000 or 2000 usd value so a 30 fee is not as bad. Switch to scrypt for small value. ltc and doge. here is the kicker if a lot switch to scrypt (second largest network) foundry is likely ready for this. So the good thing is someone has decided the moves above are worth doing. so hodl your btc . 100k in under a year looks easy
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: December 17, 2023, 04:25:57 PM
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I don't know. This is madness. There is a second-layer shitcoin market that's currently all the rage on bitcoin, but the bubble has to pop at some point. Its gonna be brutal for them, good for everyone else. Actually this is a good thing. Btc = a large t-bill do not make small moves with it. Ltc and Doge = small value moves. So buy small amounts of LTC And DOGE for small money moves. Stack btc at an exchange until it is at least 1000 value then move it to you wallet. 1000 moved for 20 bucks is not the end of the world. As for miners (me) this is a good christmas. 🎄 BTW fees for btc will never be under 5 sats for extend periods of time. once the ½ ing happens. I know of five or six ways big pools can jack fees at a profit to them. If a dummy like me knows them the pools also know them. Simplest one downclock you gear on the first 3 days of a jump. You save on power bigly. You clog the pool. Fees go up. ⬆️ On fourth day put your gear on full speed. You pull in bigger fees and more blocks. That is an unstoppable method. ( I can not conceive of a fix for this) And that method works better and better as each ½ ing passes.
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: December 17, 2023, 03:54:42 PM
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This year is ending with a bitcoin price $60k?
Doubt. Same. I don’t see us even hitting $50K this month/year. It would require breaking through some pretty long lasting resistance levels. $45K or maybe even $47K I would see as possible, but it would take a great deal of buying to get us to even $49K, let alone breaking the psychological barrier of $50K in such a short time. my peak number was 48.1k for dec 2023
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Other / Meta / Re: Mixers to be banned
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on: December 17, 2023, 02:13:07 PM
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What if a Service pops up. They take your Bitcoin and send you a Monero Private Key. It looks like an Exchange but it is not. They never call themselves a 'Mixer' nor do they seem like one at first glance. The functionality is exactly like Chip Mixer but the Currency you receive in the end is not Bitcoin but Monero instead. Why give users a private key, instead of sending Monero to an address? It sounds like an exchange with increased risk. My guess is he thinks his method is not a mixer. Your idea would be a mixer. ie he thinks he has a workaround.
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Other / Meta / Re: Mixers to be banned
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on: December 17, 2023, 03:35:19 AM
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I doubt the member you know that earned $1200 per month was a sole case by being on a customised deal. If I recall correctly, for a short period at one stage all the Chipmixer participants were getting paid more than $1200 per month because the price of Bitcoin was high enough to take them over $300 per week. I know someone who earned $1200 per month from ChipMixer.
You recall correctly! But it wasn't because the Bitcoin price was high enough, it was guaranteed over $300 per week if someone made the allowed 50 posts to be paid as it was a flat rate for every participant of $6 per post. Depending on the month, it was ~ $1300-1350 per week month. In many places of the world, an account in that signature campaign would get them above average income per month. Yep thats why this thread is so long. I have no Idea of the exact amounts given away by all the mixer signatures on bitcoinalk. But there were hundreds of people doing the signatures. So say 500 x 150 = 75000 a week . I am sure that is lower but its is a loss form a lot of people .
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Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: NFTs in the Bitcoin blockchain - Ordinal Theory
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on: December 17, 2023, 01:05:48 AM
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That gives bad actors the opportunity to build a months/years long sustainable ecosystem to price many users out from using the network. The "protocol" of Ordinals by itself is not the attack, but it could be used as an attack vector. It's going to be an annoying few months until the hype goes down, but it might not be the end of that. It goes, then it comes back.
No one is pushed out of using the network . Anyone has the right to increase the fee to a level that will make his transaction enter into the next block . Isn't that the purpose of the fee market , to make blockchain space as much valuable as possible ? Well , mission accomplished . To be honest , i see current fee market at a low level . As soon as more protocols start to create defi's etc on btc , fees will increase in thousands of dollars for a single tx . The unfortunate ones will be those that will have to exit from LN for whatever reason and those stacking sats . A new era is coming . Really? Tell that to a person willing to buy $10 worth of BTC. According to you, he now has to pay like what? $50 in fees? No, we're not pushing anyone out, never. And to "make blockchain space as much valuable as possible" is the ultimate goal for miners not for all bitcoiners or market in general... depends if he buys at an exchange. coinbase won't charge high fee to buy it. they will charge a high fee to move it off the exchange. But technically in an exchange it's not actual Bitcoin that you're buying, but mere numbers in their ledger. It only become actual Bitcoin if those units are transferred in a public address with a private key that's under your custody. In the subject of Ordinals and transaction fees, have we seen the network maintain such high fees that users are willing to pay more than one month? I believe not, but if it does, wouldn't it make Bitcoin more profitable to mine that BCH and BSV miners would start pointing hashing power to Bitcoin? I guess it's not possible to do merged mining (BTC + BCH + BSV) with SHA-256 ASICs? (like Scrypt ASICs can do merged mining -> LTC + DOGE) you can't developers did not set it up that way. For me I see a simple economic issue scrypt does 12 blocks LTC+Doge sha-256 does 1 block No matter what btc does to scale ltc+ doge can copy it and move 12 the tx's the natural order is BTC move big wealth LTC + doge move small wealth
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: December 17, 2023, 01:01:49 AM
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yeah sat nite 8pm 6 people and we were four of the 6 weird having a next to empty theater on a sat nite.
but everyone in UK or USA has a flat screen and thats what I am doing right now typing to you looking at a 65 inch sc4k screen.
I saw something on amazon prime had good sound and half way decent movie plot for a price of $0
Silver and the book of dreams
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Bitcoin’s Mempool statistics
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on: December 17, 2023, 12:40:06 AM
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Maybe someone knows a website, where we can see Bitcoin’s Memepool statistics from pre 2017? I’ve checked various websites and it’s always just from 2017 until today. Previous data doesn’t seem to be available anywhere, like here from Jochen Hoenicke‘s Memepool statistics: https://jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/#BTC,all,weightDoes someone know any known site, where we can find data like from 2011 or 2012 until today? I’m not a coder, so I don’t know if there’s any technical detail preventing it for the public, to look up earlier data because it’s not available maybe? Because ALL sites I’ve checked, it’s always just starting in 2017… It's a bit odd... fees were dirt cheap so no one tracked them. and blocks were big in 2016 25 coins were huge compared to fees.btc was never higher than 1300 usd 2009 to 2016 we had 1 peak event in 2013 and 1300 usd price was brief. in 2016 we were always under 1000 usd so fees were 40x cheaper then today and 19x cheaper than 2017 . also high fees started up in early 2017 as there was no LN and only legacy addresses maybe legacy segwit. most of us did btc to ltc to move wealth if fees were any kind of an issue. I don't program so I am don't goinng to look at fees in 2016 or 2015 to make a chart up. https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/blocksabove will go all the way back. so I searched blocks https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/block/399999date------------- block number------- fee 02/25/2016........ 399,999............... 0.2052 .... worth 87 usd 02/25/2016.........400,000------------ 0.3334..... worth 141 usd if you want to do the work the info is on that link
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: This is beyond craziness
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on: December 17, 2023, 12:15:24 AM
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Miners are whaling!
3.94 4.46 3.53 3.64 3.88 3.99 4.05 5.26 4.02 4.41. 4.25 4.29 4.73 4.75 5.00 6.01 5.88 6.51 5.54 6.30. 5.00 5.09 5.39 6.25 4.73 5.05 5.73 5.38 6.07
0? REALLY FAST BLOCK.
5.41 5.35 6.66 6.08 5.53 5.84 6.24 6.61 7.74 7.05, 5.56 5.91 6.15 5.91 5.99 6.45 6.74 6.93 7.38 7.41, 8.05 7.31 7.16 4.87 4.84 4.84 4.07 4.19 4.61 4.08. 4.08 4.80 4.48 4.22 4.66 3.88 3.76 4.19 2.76 4.13, 3.04 3.05 3.22 3.17 3.56 3.38 3.99 3.85 3.13 3.21, 3.56 3.38 3.73 3.57 3.79 3.77 4.21 4.58 3.89 4.29, 3.03 3.21 3.11
2.30------------ these are lower. 2.54 2.33 2.25 2.78 2.33 2.67, 2.33 2.66 2.59 3.03 3.26 2.92 2.23 2.37 2.57 2.98, 2.40 2.85 2.38 2.61 2.57 1.68 1.77 2.17
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