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761  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [GBYTE] Byteball Speculation on: November 12, 2017, 10:56:08 AM
I think it is time to stop with the airdrops now.
In the past it was worth a lot, people would buy and get invested in Byteballs so that they could get their airdrop.  Volumes were high and people were interested.

Now the rewards are lower and there is no pump or increase in interest. The price falls post airdrop because people sell what they are given for their Bitcoin, without ever having any interest in Byteballs.

It was a nice idea to have airdrops, but not it is just price drops. I think they should be binned now and Byteballs can mature as a currency.

The price fall shouldn't really bother holders, if they believe in its potential. The air drops were a good means to get people talking about the currency, but the associated downside was the dumps of the air-dropped coins. With a major portion of the air drops completed, there really isn't any need to worry.
762  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2018 World Cup qualifications, UEFA zone, discussion and information thread on: November 12, 2017, 10:32:59 AM
With Italy losing last night this match will be very interesting in rematch in Italy.
To be honest Sweden played better and Italy is playing so boring and predictable in last several years.

Italy is playing very bad in this qualification. Don't be surprised if they don't manage to qualify for the WC next year.
It's only the 1st leg of the qualification giving up one goal is still manageable for them. They need to have at least two goals to qualify and make sweden scoreless until the end of the 2nd leg.

Switzerland to win against Northern Ireland is a great bet today to take and one sportsbook is offering odds up to 2 for them if they win.

Switzerland have already won the first leg against Northern Ireland 1-0. Northern Ireland have a tough task ahead of them, trying to beat Switzerland and overcoming this deficit. I would go for Switzerland in this match too.
763  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Will Dogecoin have a future? on: November 12, 2017, 10:25:34 AM
i think By July 2017 = $0.0009 (this will be the new low)
By December 2017 = $0.0012 (after going down below 0.0005, it will stay above 0.0012)
By June 2018 = $0.005 (this is a safe bet for DOGE and will never go down below 0.005 again)
By January 2019 = $0.008 (it going up slowly but surely)
By September 2020 = Anywhere between $0.01 to $0.10. Too good to be true? A lot of too good things will happen to other alt coins as well.

You are fantasizing. A recovery for a coin which has no active development and is inflationary is too much to ask for. The slide downwards is a given. Dogecoin has actually benefited from Bitcoin's price rise because the price is quoted in satoshis and hence the dollar value has risen.
764  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: I'll never buy Bitcoin cash on: November 12, 2017, 09:13:46 AM
Ever, fuck you guys! Smiley

And I hope you realize as soon as Bitcoin cash fails to overthrow Bitcoin in this insane attack. It's going to get beat back down so hard.

*sorry for the low quality post.

You don't have to buy Bitcoin Cash. A lot of people have received "free" Bitcoin Cash, since it was a fork. Some of that will hit the market now, given how much it has risen in value. Just give it a bit of time.
765  Economy / Speculation / Re: when to buy bitcoin in today on: November 11, 2017, 12:04:50 PM
This does look like a good buying opportunity. It is difficult to time the market, but buying at dips usually helps. People expected a windfall like they got when there was Bitcoin Cash fork. Unfortunately, that didn't happen with Segwit2X and people are selling bitcoins now.
766  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2018 World Cup qualifications, UEFA zone, discussion and information thread on: November 11, 2017, 11:59:37 AM
We have another playoff match today: Denmark - Republic of Ireland.

And in the inter-confederation play-offs, New Zealand managed to draw 0-0 against Perú. Next match is going to be interesting, I wonder if the New Zealand squad will be able to adapt fast in South America.

Denmark vs Republic of Ireland will be interesting. Denmark are ranked 19th in the world, while Ireland are ranked 25th. Denmark also have a very strong record at home, so it is not going to be easy for Ireland to pull a surprise. Ireland will also miss David Meyler, who has been banned.
767  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin: The World’s Most Dramatic Bubble Ever? on: November 11, 2017, 11:53:09 AM
You don't know that it is a bubble, until it bursts,
I think this statement applies to most people who are calling Bitcoin a bubble
Bubble = Rally I missed.
768  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is Bitcoin practically finished considering no more development will be done? on: November 10, 2017, 10:02:53 PM
Bitcoin Classic ≠ Bitcoin Core.

 Lips sealed

Read more carefully with all these altcoins and forks.

Aah... I was wondering what the OP was talking about. I didn't ever realize he was alluding to Bitcoin Classic. It is so easy to get misled if you just superficially follow Bitcoin. there is nobody to protect the Bitcoin brand.
769  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: ETH price soaring. Are you going to move some BTC into ETH? on: November 10, 2017, 08:01:31 PM
Very surprisingly, both ETH and BTC are don 8% now. I haven't seen them move in tandem like this for a long time. I think some people are looking at Bitcoin Cash as a hedge to Bitcoin now. Ethereum's no 2 spot might be under real threat now.
770  Economy / Speculation / Re: Real strenght of Bitcoin is showing in Cash on: November 10, 2017, 07:59:24 PM
There we have it guys.
People were hoping for SW2X but got disappointed.
Now the only working real bitcoin is Bitcoin Cash and big money is flowing into it.
I suspect it will be equally valued to Bitcoin Core before the end of the year.
Every serious Bitcoiner know it is the only implementation that Satoshi thought would ever be viable.
Not this mutable SegWit nonsense. There was a very good reason he included signature data and keep transactions immutable!

Bitcoin Cash is nothing to be scoffed at, with a market capitalization of over $15 Bn now. But it is still a fraction of Bitcoin. The 'flippening' with respect to Bitcoin Cash doesn't seem to be something which we should worry about in the near future.
771  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin feels like an empty room with plates of half eaten food and balloons on: November 09, 2017, 11:35:19 PM
"Bitcoin feels like an empty room with plates of half eaten food and balloons fallen to the ground."

Read this posted by Peaches, thought it held true.     Undecided Cry


Edit:  After the huge pump to $7900 and huge selloff.

If you think the party is over, you couldn't be farther from the truth. It has just gotten a little quiet while the DJ is switching songs.
It would be foolish to believe that $7900 was the peak. Bitcoin futures haven't yet been launched. There is a lot of action happening.
772  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Millionaire Tim Draper: Cryptocurrencies Will Replace Fiat in 5 Years on: November 09, 2017, 11:30:47 PM
In five years time, fiat currencies are no longer going to have any use as cryptocurrencies replace them. That’s according to venture capital investor Tim Draper.

At the WebSummit conference in Lisbon, Portugal, Draper was speaking with Forbes. Expressing his views on where he sees the digital currency market, he said:
In five years, if you try to use fiat currency they will laugh at you. Bitcoin and other cryptocurriences will be so relevant … there will be no reason to have the fiat currencies.

What do you think? Just wishthinking?

5 years is definitely wishful thinking. It would take generations for a shift like this to occur. Governments won't sit back and let cryptocurrencies take over. They will fight tooth and nail, but eventually realize that it is a futile exercise. All this will take time.
773  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2017-11-05] New York Preschool Accepts Bitcoin, But Not Credit Cards on: November 09, 2017, 11:26:54 PM
Here, a low percentage of transactions in bitcoin is used quite efficiently, unlike commission when accepting payment by credit card or other similar methods. However, the administration of this preschool institution can not be accused of using crypto currency for personal gain, since all operations are well documented.

Aside from avoiding those transactions fees from credit cards, this school has a potential of earning more from those tuition fees. Bitcoin's prices are changing rapidly on a positive way and if they are going to keep those coins they will definitely earn more from those tuition fees. Such a bright idea from its management.

They are not keeping the coins. They use a payment processor and fiat gets credited to their accounts.
It would actually be foolish for them to hold bitcoins. Trading bitcoins is not their strong point. If they collect tuition fees and gambled it on Bitcoin, the entire management would be fired.
774  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin unstoppable now on: November 09, 2017, 11:21:41 PM
China cracks down, Japan moves in.I think bitcoin cannot destroy.Bitcoin now unstoppable and its  price near 6k and hope bitcoin will be hit 10k this year. Smiley Smiley Smiley
Bitcoins is really unstoppable since the bitcoin began even other countries banned it they always open oppurtunity to bitcoin to use it by their people and i am glad that my country is the one whos supporting bitcoin. And im very very glad that i am earning money because of bitcoin and this is the reason why i don't stop learning more about cyrpto currency and bitcoin itself.

China hasn't banned Bitcoin. They have just shut down bitcoin exchanges - there is a big difference between the two. Bitcoin miners are flourishing. Over the counter trades are happening. They are just checking out whether Bitcoin can be controlled.
775  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2017-11-07] Bitcoin has no future because of its anonymity on: November 08, 2017, 08:14:25 AM
Big banks know that they cannot beat Bitcoin, so they expect banks to step in. They cry about money laundering and tax evasion in the hope that some governments will step. They are throwing in the towel in the fight against Bitcoin, even before it has actually started.
776  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin is the new era of currency? on: November 08, 2017, 08:09:46 AM
Not .. because Bitcoin itself is a digital currency that we use in the world of technology that connects or facilitate us in doing transactions in the world of technology alone .. the world will not replace the original currency is replaced in transact in daily life ..

You are missing the point here. Bitcoin is not about digitization, it is about decentralization. Digital currencies abound and even governments see that as the future. But that is not the same as a decentralized currency. Bitcoin is important because it takes power out of the hands of banks and puts it back in the hands of people.
777  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin ETF 2018? on: November 08, 2017, 08:04:59 AM
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-11-07/bitcoin-etfs-are-likely-to-follow-futures-cboe-president-says


The guy interviewed in that video in the link is apparently an ETF expert, whatever that means. But he says he thinks Bitcoin ETF's should follow about 6 months after the futures market starts up, so by summer 2018. Said he thinks an ETF could get $10 billion after the first couple months. So we're talking about ETFs coming in and taking maybe half a million bitcoin off the table. That'd be HUGE!

That is correct. The argument given by the SEC so far is that they cannot allow an ETF on an unregulated underlying. That argument will fly out of the window if you have Bitcoin futures which are regulated. You can then have an ETF based on Bitcoin futures.
778  Economy / Economics / Re: The dream of getting rich with bitcoins on: November 07, 2017, 09:31:51 AM
the desire is typical to everyone regardless of what you're young or old, woman or young man, spain or america  but everybody see the imagine making money i additionally first viewed it like if i have my own cryptocurrency and in my locallity everyone began to accept it as being a paymebt i then will surely feel like a lord

Starting a new cryptocurrency without a new idea is nothing but a scam. Even if people in your locality start accepting it, you have achieved nothing. You would be better off educating people about Bitcoin
779  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2017-11-06] China Monitors Booming OTC Bitcoin Market After Shutting Down Excha on: November 07, 2017, 08:16:04 AM
Bitcoin users are creative enough to outplay the government restrictions, humans are good on that. I’m not sure if what will be the next move of the Chinese government about it, ignoring it or criminalise the use of OTC and its way. This will be not good to its citizens itself, retracting the order of closing exchanges and put it back on is the best options they can do.

@Argoo I think banning ICO is right enough but closing bitcoin exchanges is not effective as Op or the article said bitcoiners resulted in OTC (over the counter) transactions it’s like a back door transactions. Bitcoin is not ban in China by the way.

If China actually outlaws OTC trading, then a lot of people might take a step backwards. Even if the law is unimplementable, a lot of people would like to stay on the right side of the law. Bitcoin demand in China would plummet.
780  Economy / Speculation / Re: What will be the Value of BTC at December 2018? on: November 07, 2017, 08:10:40 AM
Many rumors about BTC value
What can you say about this...
BTC will hit 10,000 USD next year?
How much do you think?

I think we can break $10,000 in 2017 itself. Futures are expected to be launched some time this year. That should give a boost to the price. By December 2018, we should be in the $20,000 range. There is absolutely no stopping this bull rally.
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