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761  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Luck and skill, which is more important for gambling success? on: November 11, 2023, 07:34:13 PM
I have the believe that success in gambling requires a mixture of luck and skill. This is opposed to some people that believe that gambling is entirely a game of luck and others who believe it is entirely a game of skill.

So I am tempted to inquire if skill is all that is needed to be successful in gambling or luck. Whichever be the option, which of them is the most important factor for gambling success?

Depends on what games you played, for poker players, it's more of their skills on how to read their opponents and bluff. For sports betting, you need to analyse the game itself and see what are the strengths and weaknesses of the teams that are playing against each other and see how it's going to be in the end. So there is somewhat a analytical skills involved.

But for games like slots, dice, roulette, doesn't need skills there, all you need is money and some luck and then you roll that dice or push the button for slots machine and hope that it will land on the bets that you have on them.
762  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: November 11, 2023, 01:37:35 PM
LA Clippers 0-3 now with James Harden. The Clippers already have a strong team so it's hard to see how James Harden fits in. Clippers doing well without Harden and his style might cause more problems than solutions. Maybe he could come off the bench to help but that's not guaranteed if he doesn't agree. If Jame Harden don't want to go bench trading him might be an option again. Lmao. Even without Harden the Clippers are still a top team especially when Paul George and Kawhi Leonard are fit and playing.

We can also say that to the Bucks, they've lost Holiday and pick up Lillard, but so far the marriage is somewhat off, and they don't have a good record at the start of the season and obviously the chemistry has been disrupted since there are a lot of new players in Bucks roster.

And we have been discussing it even before Harden goes to the Clippers, they already have like 3 stars already having a problem as well. And then adding Harden in the equation? It's going to be very hard to the coach on how to balance their superstars. Although the Clippers organization might think that they have won the trade since they didn't give up most of it's players, but there is still the question on how Harden is going to fit and so far, he is not doing any good.
763  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Poloniex was hacked (Security Breach Discussion) on: November 10, 2023, 09:00:17 PM
Topic Security Breach and Protection Layers. Do you think that Exchanges and DeFI need more development and investments here or is this just something we have to lay down our heads and deal with?
Yes and more professional ones. This happened due to a low security network of Poloniex. Probably they need to have more security protocols and not only them but a lot of exchange like Binance Kucoin, which is targeted by hackers. Obviously this is not new but considering the news it will have a great impact on market situation.

Right, the thing is that this is not the first time that they have been hack so obviously they didn't learn anything from the past and maybe they are just relaxed thinking that they could not be a target anymore. But there are a lot of groups even state sponsored hackers plying in the ecosystem. And one they case you, it will be just a matter of time before they hack the exchange in whichever means possible.

Not sure though what is the impact in the market situation. We didn't see any major downside on any top tier coins right now. So perhaps this is just a non factor and only Poloniex and it's customers and Justin are being affected. Hopefully the funds are SAFU so that those who lost their money can get it back at least.
764  Economy / Speculation / Re: Buying at 35k? on: November 10, 2023, 08:30:55 PM
there is no purchase that is too expensive or too cheap, it all depends on the point you determine. if you plan to sell at 60k, the investment you are making now is good enough. or better yet, if you hold it for a longer time, maybe your investment can become even more profitable.
The main point is the target that we set ourselves when we start investing, because we want to set a long-term target for Bitcoin investment in the $60K range. That means it's still good enough to buy from now on, but if the current price range has provided a hundred percent profit because of buying Bitcoin at a much lower price last year, it wouldn't be wrong for an investor to sell. Although it would be much better if you still save to see the potential increase next year in what range the Bitcoin price will be.

It's already more than 100% profit for us if we have invested at the lowest price last year of $15,500. So that is the good thing about bitcoin investment, in just short amount of time you can really make a huge profit without doing anything in your part but just to buy and then hold. But the bigger picture is still the bull run that we wanted to see next year. So buying at $35,000 could still be a good idea.

And this price seems to be very expensive, yeah, for some it is, but just look at how the price moves to $37k-$40k. There is still profits to be made short term. But as I have said, it's better to look long term so that when you buy today and if you think it's expensive, then just wait till we enter the bull run.
765  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Inoue vs Tapales for Unified Super Bantamweight Title - December 26 on: November 10, 2023, 08:18:45 PM

i could be wrong with that odds, 30% for almost a 90% win Inoue would be a loss for the bookie. i could just be giving tapales a big credit because he is also a champ. he wouldn't be in that position if he can't box. he still has lots of time in preparation but i remember fulton is close to that as well. kudos to tapales for not ducking the no. 2 p4p though. for a boxer who has seen firsthand what Inoue can do.  it's a tough fight when you can foresee yourself taking the canvas temperature challenge with just one hit from the monster.

Lol, but it's true we have to give credit for Tapales, for having the "conjones" to face the number 2 p4p. But I guess he knows that he is on the collision course with Inoue specially when he upset Akhmadaliev and took his belt. As per the odds, no doubt that Inoue will be the outstanding favorite in this fight and it's like that he is a sure winner already. But he shouldn't underestimate the Filipino because he knows what he can do in the ring and it will create a lot of ripple if Inoue loses this one.

So we should give credit for Marlon, and from all the reports that we are seeing, he is sacrificing a lot on his end like training very hard not just in US but also in Baguio the Philippines and facing a lot of good Filipino fighters to get himself feeling the power.
766  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: November 10, 2023, 07:53:15 PM
I mean averaging 18.8 ppg and 2.4 blocks per game on your rookie year is still great. We need to remember that Wembanyama is having his first ever season, he is just a rookie, and it's his early games. He is not suppose to end up playing like a superstar right away, he could be just very well doing fine, and that is understandable and there is nothing wrong with that, as long as the dude is making sure that he stays healthy, I would consider that a win for him.

That is the thing though with this hype rookies, the expectations are very high. And the last time that we have this kind of hype is Lebron James when he come on the league. And he did good during his first year. I know it's going to be tough following that footsteps because we have seen it already and up to know James is still playing so it's a hard to replicate that.

By my metric, anything above 15ppg, or even if he is closer to 20ppg like right now that's better, and anything above 2 blocks per game, with about 70 or more games played, is a rocking awesome rookie year. He can get a lot better later on, I think it's about year 5 when they start to actually be a superstar. Up until that point, they try to build their body to withstand 82 games, or at least as much as possible, some like AD never achieve that Cheesy. So if Wemby could get there, then I expect year 5 to be the "superstar" year.

Of course, anything about 15 ppg is already a big numbers for a rookie. And fans are going to Spurs game to watch him. And so he has a lot things to look at in the next 5 years. But the good thing is that the kid is carrying himself up to this point and hopefully his body can go and withstand 82 games.
767  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tyson Fury vs Francis Ngannou Boxing October 28 on: November 10, 2023, 12:54:15 PM
Where does that leave Fury and Usyk? If over time Fury had worked out how to defeat Wilder how does that affect the Fury vs Usyk possible fight? In my opinion if this Fury/Usyk drama was to continue the best thing that can happen in order to add pressure on both Fury and Usyk, is for Joshua to fight Wilder. That would really add a new dimension to the heavyweight division.

Before Usyk entered the scene, Wilder was considered Fury's toughest opponent. In fact, many believed Wilder would win the fight, and he was the heavy favorite on sports betting sites. Wilder was -160 in the first fight and -125 in the second one. He was actually the underdog in their last bout, and he lost because Fury had figured out how to beat him. Although Fury had already defeated Wilder in their rematch, the last fight was a pretty dominant win for him.

Fury defeated Wilder three times, and Usyk declassed Joshua twice. No matter how they fight with each other (Wilder and Joshua), it is unlikely that this can somehow change their position regarding the Usyk-Fury pair, at least until we see the first fight between Usyk and Fury. Theoretically, one could speculate that the balance of power in this four could turn over over time, but these boxers are at such an age that in the coming years they will simply end their careers.

Yeah, so as far as rankings, it will be Fury, Usyk, and then AJ and Wilder.

And as much as AJ and Wilder wanted to say that they are the best in HW, they don't have any belts to boot. The only thing they have is that they are just in those tier and that's why we wanted to see them facing each other, Fury vs AJ for all British, or AJ vs Wilder as this fight has been touted for many years before they got beaten.

Francis though is the odd man out right now, he needs to beat at least one of them before his name could be inserted in the discussions.
768  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin price $45k by ending of 2023: AI prediction on: November 09, 2023, 09:44:27 PM
So I decided to bring it to the forum to know about what other forum members think about this AI prediction. Is it a prediction you can rely on or it's just one of those common bitcoin  price predictions of the decade we are used to from different angles, is there anything special about this one .

To me, it's not a ridiculous prediction.
I predicted 35k to $40k before the end of the year so it's not really surprising that someone else or something else will predict $45k
I don't believe it would have t to $45k this year though even though I'm secretly hoping for it to go above that.
If Bitcoin gets to $45k dollars it means we will most likely see a new ATH next year after the halving.
This is the usual trend before the halving and yes there’s a big possibility for that pump after the halving. In preparation to the big updates, the market price is also preparing and ending a year with a good price is a good indication of a bull trend. Reaching $45k this year is still possible, let’s be more bullish and positive for Bitcoin because we will benefit from this and our investments will be more worth it.

And probably the next question is, what if we indeed reach $45k at the end of the year? Will everyone now goes to AI and ask and them believed what it will tell us? Next year obviously it will be a big run for us as we will have the halving and then the eventual bull run that we all have been waiting. There are predictions that we can hit $100k at a minimum. So maybe another question that we could post to this AI is that what will be the prediction for 2024-2025? Will it match what most of the speculators here are predicting or will it be a different prediction that we have some qualms about it and think that we should ignore AI in cryptocurrency trading or prediction? So I guess there's more questions that answer if we tap AI at it's infancy, just saying.
769  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: November 09, 2023, 09:25:44 PM
And the Lakers again has a ugly lost against the Houston. Rockets started hot with Jalen Green and never look back. I don't think that the Lakers got it close to a single digit in this game. Whenever they will try to make a comeback, the Rockets will have it's own run.

But it's nice to see Bron and Brooks again as they have a nice matchup down the point.

VanFleet proves why he is worth with the huge contract with the Rockets, being their point guard, and make it easy for his team to score, with 9 points and 10 assists in just 29 minutes of play.
I am pleasantly surprised how better Rockets is this season so far. VanVleet is indeed a very valuable player and especially a player like him was needed by the Rockets. He and Dillon Brooks improved the overall team quality and elevated every other player, especially Alperen Sengun and Jalen Green. Also the change of coach was obviously very needed and Rockets is much better with the new coach.

Yep, it seems that the Rockets has finally found the missing pieces in Fred VanFleet, they took a huge gamble by offering him one of the biggest contract this season, but it's paying off. Remember that they are also considering James Harden as per report. And it's good that they have choose VanFleet and not Harden. Jalen Green is coming to his age right now and so is Sengun, very simply player but very effective.

And then they have the muscle in Dillon Brooks if they needed a player to stop the opposing team's main weapon. He even guarded Steph Curry during their games. But here it was his old nemesis in Lebron James. But it doesn't matter if Brooks is with a different team not, all he wanted is to play defense whoever is in front of him. They also have a lot of good role and young players coming off the bench to give their starters a good rest and then they just continue their momentum in this game and not allowing the Lakers to make a comeback just like what they do on their previous games, catching up and then stealing one. But it's not going to happen at Houston's homecourt.
770  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2023-2024 betting on: November 09, 2023, 08:35:52 PM
It looks like you are going with the Warriors here against the Nuggets.

But I'm going with the Nuggets at -3.5 @1.88. There are reports that Draymond might not going to play in this game. Even so, the Nuggets have Jokic, and then they are blending very well.


Yeah, there was no green on the court, but the Warriors really kept it a close game. The Nuggets came out on top, but they couldn't quite cover the spread, winning by only 3 points. That's all part of the game, mate. But you're taking 1.88; I personally think 1.95 would be better with a higher spread, but that's just my take.

Anyway, good luck in the next one, and let's hope for a bounce back.

Thanks, it was a hard fought game and the spread, ouch, I got greedy and thinking that they can cover it. Sure, I will try to bounce back as there are a lot of games later.

I'll go with the Bucks against the Pacers, could be another close game here, but let's see if Giannis can take one at the road against the Pacers. The Bucks slight favorite @1.77 ML. I think there's value on that bet.

I also like to go ML with the Mavericks @1.81 against the Clippers, gonna be exciting, but I think LA might still struggle and Doncic putting MVP numbers.
771  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2023-2024 betting on: November 09, 2023, 02:15:37 AM
It looks like you are going with the Warriors here against the Nuggets.

But I'm going with the Nuggets at -3.5 @1.88. There are reports that Draymond might not going to play in this game. Even so, the Nuggets have Jokic, and then they are blending very well.

Knicks though has a huge lead against Wemby and the Spurs.
772  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: David Benavidez Vs Demetrius Andrade Interim WBC Super Middleweight title fight on: November 09, 2023, 01:10:14 AM
^^ Yeah, familiar with Berto and I will say that his he was like Broner, minus the trash talking. He had a good skills back then and if I remember correctly, he is supposedly to fight Mosley then, after Mosley beat Margarito. But a big earth quake hits Haiti (where Andre's family came from), so he has to go there and raise money for the country.

And after that, he goes back fighting but it seems that he has lost his hype already. He was one of Floyd's hit list and so they fought. But we all know that nobody beats Mayweather and so Berto looks very amateurish in that fight.

Obviously this is for the money and not for the revenge against another old fighter in Guererro. I don't know how this old boxers can still get a fight in a very good match like this one.
773  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: November 06, 2023, 03:15:49 PM
Praograis @3.65 is of interest to me. These boxers came from hard fights where they only won by questionable decisions. But Progais was fighting someone not in the top five while Haney fought Lomachenko. I will not miss this match. Prograis does not have the speed of Lomachenko but he has the ability to hurt Haney. Haney does not have ko in his punches but he has what it takes to win a decision.

Yeah, I think maybe sport bookies are underestimating Regis Prograis, or they think that Haney can overcome him with his skills. The scary part is that Regis has power to knockout anyone at 140 lbs and this is the first time that Haney in this weight. So we don't know how good he is, and his chin is also questionable. I mean if by chance Regis hit him with power punches he might go down.

Ryan Garcia utilized the names of Prograis and Haney to gain more fame in his separate match with I forgot the name. He generally discusses battling the best but as of recently, he is fearful of taking a match with the champions.

He is fighting Duarte, it's obvious that this is just a stepping stone or a comeback fight for Ryan. He is big though, an for sure he will not have a problem making 140 lbs. And Prograis is a champion here and Haney trying to make his name at this division same with him. So don't be surprise if he is going to call both of this fighters. Even Teo Lopez as well is in the radar of Ryan Garcia. So let's see first if he can get over Duarte and it will not be an easy fight for him.
774  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you guys believe in other people luck and try to copy them? on: November 05, 2023, 09:08:35 PM
Whenever I am low on cash on the casino I play which includes a sport book I like to copy other people bets,usually parlays with odds over 1000 and I think to myself who cares if I play for example 50 bets copying other people with 200 IDR as my base bet,if any of these guys hits it big I will do to.Notice that I put 1000 as a minimum here but the reality is that I have been copying bets with over 700.000 as odds,I damn love these huge multipliers yet no one has got such one in sport betting.

Of course in here it is not about skill or luck games anymore but it is about destiny,so tell me how many of you are deceived by dreams that may change your destiny like I am  Grin?

I haven't try that strategy though, but obviously I will see a lot of bets along the way and you will be just in awe on such big bets or those gamblers who are betting on a parlay with a huge odds and sometimes I'm tempted to copy them. However, those games that the gamblers are betting are not familiar to me, so most of the times I have qualms about it and so I don't do this strategy. But why not though, I mean if you are losing then it might call for desperate measures, just saying.

In any case, there is a video circulating about a man who is in prison, calling someone and telling them to bet for him a parlay,

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/7P48TLNBzsI

And it said that he won, and uses that money he won for a bail, not sure if this is real or not, but crazy story.
775  Economy / Speculation / Re: What did you think will happen to Bitcoin before January? on: November 05, 2023, 08:41:44 PM
With my analysis and observation, I think before January there will be an inflation in Bitcoin. This coin have depreciate to it stop limit, that is where it can not further depreciate again.
And whenever this coin gets to this point, it reverses back and then boom and trust me it's about time.

Lol, I thought that OP will have a analysis on what's going to happen pre-halving. However, just like the rest of us, we have our own wild and educated guess. And I think the best scenario that everyone is hoping is that we want to see the price going into the positive direction, i.e. price around the $40k-$50k that time.

Not really sure what you mean by inflation and depreciation, yeah, terms could have the same meaning here, but in crypto we seldom used that term. But in any case, if the majority is looking for a increased at the start of next year, then obviously, we want to make profits short term and in order to do that, we should continue to accumulate at this price and hopefully our prediction will hit to squeeze some profits in January it you are that kind of a trader/speculator.
776  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: November 05, 2023, 08:31:53 PM
Lakers lost in dramatic fashion, nearly 20 point difference. They really need other players to step up, Lebron and AD alone can't do that much, Austin tried a bit this time around but that didn't really worked out that well for him neither considering they still lost. Inefficiency of the players when Lebron is not around could be their biggest problem, when he is on the floor, even if he doesn't play that well (although he plays well) at least he gets the defenders on him, 35 points just last game, 24 here, and I think the point is that when defenders are on him, others have easier shot selection.

They are indeed very inconsistent for now, they look for Lebron as their playmaker, and they supposed to improved in their shooting for this year, but that is not the case. Even getting Wood and Hayes as a back up for AD, but they seems to be not adjusting on that. Lebron will be Lebron though, day in day out he will go out and score. But if he didn't get the help that he wanted, they re going to struggle and lost just like what they did here.

And I thought that they have all the advantage against the Magic, size, basketball IQ. But it seems that Ham couldn't really adjust with the new Lakers line up. His plays are still evolved AD and Lebron and if they are not in the floor, they look disorganized.
777  Economy / Gambling / Re: QuitGamble.com - Free Help for Problem Gamblers on: November 05, 2023, 12:55:22 PM
I wonder how effective this program is. Have there been any testimonies from addicted gamblers who were helped by your platform?

Good question, but it seems that this is just a new platform, so they might not have or maybe few gamblers have reach out to them. And if ever they have, the data is going to be fairly young. But I do hope that the OP will comeback for more data in the future.

This is free, as you mentioned, so I'm curious about its effectiveness. Gambling addiction is a serious issue and often requires expensive sessions to address. I appreciate the effort, though. I'll explore your website to gather more information, but I don't need help right now. Hopefully, I won't need it in the future.

I guess it's really up to the individual itself whether he wanted to quit or believed in this kind of services to help him out of his gambling addiction. But yeah, obviously we really like this kind of efforts from members here and we can only wish that those who are addicted right now and will reach out to them for help. And so there will be success stories specially if it will come from a forum members.
778  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is your one memory related to Bitcoin that you want to forget? on: November 05, 2023, 12:00:54 PM
What is your one memory related to Bitcoin that you want to forget? It can be anything like some sort of scam happening to you or some other type of loss.

Bitcoin doubler, during the time that I entered bitcoin market, there's a lot of scams already, but one of the earliest is the doubler, not sure if anyone has the chance to witnessed it early in their career here or if this scam is still going on till this day. But I vividly remember that during those times there are a lot of bitcoin doubler than you can find and I fell victims to it.

Of course I was very gullible and I still very green that time. And I thought that I can make easy money but investing on this doubler. In the beginning they are really paying, so you will be entice to not withdraw the money but to roll it out. But before the second payment was to be made, the site suddenly went offline and then they say it's on maintenance. However, it was a exit already and after that it's gone and so I learn it the hard way that's why till now I can't forget that experience.
779  Economy / Speculation / Re: 2023 end game sentiment check on: November 04, 2023, 08:56:23 PM
The month of octobar remains positive mostly due to its previous month's usual negative price action. The month of november can be positive or negative but from december to march before the year of bitcoin halving, the bitcoin market shows a correction to liquidate long and short positions is mass before the bull starts its rally. This is historically accurate but this time it can be different though i think history will repeat itself this time too. I don't think the bitcoin price will exceed 40k this year nor will it go down to the $28k level.


Ser, it was what they say as the month of UPtober. But for the month of November, I believe there was a Bitcoin price monthly table that was posted in one of the topics that illustrates that November = MOONvember.

Cool

Plus I agree that there's some probability that Bitcoin crashes before it surges after the halving, BUT that would be caused by something very unexpected. A Black Swan, and there's no point in trying to know because actually knowing before it happened would make it not a Black Swan.

Yes sir, it will take another black swan event like the Terra Luna or FTX collapse to bring the market down. However, I think we have pass that stage already, not seeing any black swan events that will dampen the market again just like what happen last year wherein there's string of bad luck in the market. Or shall we say that how the market reacts after a bull run, from all time high of $69k->$15,500 lowest low.

So why not? October still proves that it is will continue one of the best months for Bitcoin and it really did. And from the last lowest low, we are now 100%++, so that is already a big accomplishment for us. But it's not done yet, pre-halving we might be looking at around $41k-$45k price range.

With that, next 2 months will still be as exciting year ender for everyone.
780  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: David Benavidez Vs Demetrius Andrade Interim WBC Super Middleweight title fight on: November 04, 2023, 08:16:40 PM
I don't know though, but it seems that there are no trash talking so far leading up to the fight. On the contrary, even Benavidez Sr is giving all praises to Demetrius Andrade as one if not the best fighter that his son is going to praise. A Olympian and held belts in 154 lbs and 160 lbs.

It's respect, the Benavidez knows that it's not going to be easy for them to win against Andrade. We might not like the resume of Andrade because he really hasn't face a name fighter during this prime years, however, who can't blame those boxers for not wanting to go after him? He is a smart fighter and that southpaw stance of him and his boxing IQ made it very difficult to beat him. And David take it as a challenge to be the first one since the Olympics to beat Andrade.

I think the target though of the Benavidez is Canelo Alvarez. But we will see, hopefully if they win here, Canelo might give him the title shot that they wanted for so long as it seems that Canelo is avoiding them and just hiding on the reasons of Alvarez doesn't want to fight another Mexican.

That is the bigger fish right there. Canelo Alvarez, and just like Manny Pacman during his prime years, everyone wanted to fight Canelo because of the huge paycheck that they will get and besides, have the entitlement to be the one who beat Canelo. I don't think that Alvarez can hide on the reason. Sooner or later fans are going to clamour for that fight and he should give us the fights that we wanted to see from him.
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