After reviewing the case about "actmyname" I think he was banned by mistake, I don't think that they were asking people to post their addresses and asking for proof of participation should be OK only if the airdrop thread were posted on bounties. since all of those threads were nuked I can't recall whether it was in bounties or not, if it was in bounties then we could consider the thread as a signature campaign where people post their applications.
If that thread was on ANN board then a mod could've just moved it to the bounties board like every other thread being posted on wrong sections.
I would like for a mod to again review the case of "actmyname" please because I think there has been a misunderstanding.
We could say that they were airdropping for anybody supporting their project via social medias. kind of like what most of the ICOs and bounties do.
It was in bounties section and it was an airdrop asking for users to post the proof of authentication. Reference: Specifically, you are not allowed to give people any incentive to post insubstantial posts in your threads. You can't offer to pay people who post their addresses, usernames, etc. You can do giveaways off-site and link to the giveaway page in a thread, but you can't give people any bonus for replying to your thread.
Similar threads are already restricted to Games and Rounds in the non-altcoin sections, but the giveaway-related post volume is so high in the altcoin sections that I've decided to just ban them entirely here.
Deleted airdrop thread: https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php%3Ftopic=4587458.0
So actmyname was banned for breaking the rules,correct? Mods, can you specify the ban period, if you wouldn't mind? |
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1. Smerit limit per post. Earning merits is generally hard, which makes them valuable on this forum. However, some people receive 15 or 20 merits for a single post, while others have only 15 merits, which they earned slowly from different people and for different posts. I think it would be better to make it impossible to send more than 5 merits for a specific post by one person. So, if the post is really good, then it can earn about 20 merits, but those merits must be sent by at least 4 different people.
Nah, not required. There are posts that deserve way more than just 15-20 merits. And this can also be abused by giving merits to different posts of the same topic,thus nullifying the restriction. 2. Maximum 2 merits per post per merit sender in local boards. I think that people usually trade merits in small threads in local boards, because the moderation there is not as strict as in the English sections of this forum. If one can send 5 merits for a post written in English, I think it is fair that only 2 merits can be sent for a non-English post.
Please no. There are a few merit sources in the local boards, and there are a few good posts there that deserve more than just 2 merits, and it would injustice, for discriminating against local boards. 3. No Signature campaigns without escrows. I know that scamming on signature campaigns is not common, but why not to make it impossible? Most of legit campaigns escrow the funds anyway, so I guess making it a must should not be a problem.
Not required either, a few campaigns pay directly from their website to its users. Escrows have known to flee away, trust no one. 4. No Signature campaigns for projects with bad reputation. Betcoin.ag accounts had red trust on this forum due to the infamous jackpot scam, but they were still advertising themselves for at least a year after that incident. I think it would be fair to forbid scamming projects to advertise themselves on this forum.
Again no. Its up to the people to decide which campaign they are to join. 5. No ANN threads for shady ICOs. We all know the statistics on ICOs. While I find the general idea very appealing, the fact that most of ICOs are scamming people harms the reputation of the crypto market. I think there should be some requirements every ICO has to meet to officially enter bitcointalk.org. Among such requirements I would name an official website with a whitepaper, team and roadmap listed on it.
You can't determine between a shady ICO , almost every single ICO is shady. Though this might help to weed out the spammers, no one has the time to give a proper check. 6. Rank requirement for signature campaign managers. Sometimes people with zero trust on Member or perhaps even a Junior Member rank lead signature campaigns. I think that people need experience on the forum to be Signature campaign managers. They need to know what it considered good post quality and what is bad; in which topics participants should not be welcomed to post; which projects mainly prefer specific forum sections and childboards etc. It truly seems strange to me when a Member decides which Legendary members to accept to a specific campaign. From my experience they usually don't bother making hard decisions, so they simply accept the first ones who applied. Anyway, I suggest that only people with membership rank of Senior Member and higher are allowed to lead Signature campaigns. I guess we should exclude copper members here as well, but I am not sure about that.
You don't have to force members to be high ranked,inorder to manage campaigns. Some ICOs manage their own campaigns. They can manage campaigns, so long as they don't just let their participants to spam all across the forum.
7. theymos introduces official set of rules for the forum and guidelines for signature campaign managers. That's all we need. And fuck cloudfare. |
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Technically theymos isn't the owner. Cøbra is. theymos is the admin and runs the servers: Bitcointalk.org:
- Cobra has ultimate control over the domain name. I have access to the domain name settings.
- I run the server. Cobra has no access to the database or server.
- The BTC is held by myself and the treasurers. Cobra has no access.
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Welsh, you're welcome.  Congratulations, by the way.  |
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I have read a lot on this forum, on how fucked up things have got, seen aTriz being naive, Master-p scamming people, Goat attacking theymos, Cyber pinoy going after Gleb Gamow because Gleb busted him, TF paying QS 20 bitcoins to sue Vod, the Zeroxal case, TMAN vs OgNasty, Owlcatz vs OgNasty, Twitchy Seal vs Ognasty, Timelord2067 accusing Tomatocage of random people , Quickseller escrowing for himself , escrow.ms getting arrrested and then people calling Vod a pedophile. I can go on and on, but this is just to show what you want to get yourself involved into. But what perked my interest is how pugman just listed all the bitcointalk "scandal gossip". They would make an interesting post. I know a couple of the "scandals" you listed but there are a few I don't know much about. DO it. I have a lot more references I think. And these things that I listed have multiple threads and stories behind it. How it started and all that. Stuff like this is hard to find but isn't impossible. You need any help,hit me a up with a PM,I'll gladly help you out.
Edit: I forgot about this: OgNasty: "@Lutpin: Really should kill himself." and I am reading a few more. A lot of shit has happened on this forum, some really fucked up shit. |
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Could they not post here and receive them back? honor system please.
Not sure I'm worthy of such credit.
It would be considered as an abuse by some people. Better not do it, and people who gave you those merits, really think that you deserve it. You're new to this place, as it seems like, don't do something that the community frowns, your reputation might be damaged. I can see that you have a mining business, so that bad reputation won't be helpful. Read this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0 |
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Yeah, then nothing can help you here. Do you have any other way of proving, it may or may not help you, depending upon what proof you have. It seem that the account has been compromised: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1285294When was your account compromised? And for the love of god, use some better means of security. Use a password generator of some sort. |
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OP, sorry for hijacking your thread, but one idea came to my head after I saw your post.
We have many useful guides - how to report posts, how to earn merit and similar. But we have some serious problems on Bitcointalk - multi accounts abusing bounties, copy pasters and account sales. Many users are doing it without any concequences. I would love to see if someone would make a guide about catching of multi accounts, copy pasters and sold accounts. I would really like to help to search for such users, but I don't know to do that. I only know about connected addresses and that's it.
Copy pasters, use this tool: https://smallseotools.com/plagiarism-checker/Sold accounts: Just check in invitees and accounts. Catching multiple accounts: Look for proofs like having similar names, similar registration timing, posting habits , post quality, unusual merit exchange, multiple accounts using the same addresses, participating in similar bounties and sending shitcoins from different addresses of different accounts to one main address. |
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Yes, it's the same as always. Currently there are 3 patrollers and 20 non-patroller local moderators. (I saw someone say elsewhere that all mods have jurisdiction over newbies, but this isn't true.) At some points in the past there have been more patrollers, but that's not necessarily indicative of a shortage.
Thanks. Are you going to add any more patrollers in the future?
I understand there was a newbie jail that only allowed newbies to post in the "Begginers & Help" section until they had made 5 posts and stayed logged in or browsed the forum for some specified amount of time. This might help reduce newbie spamming spree when reinstalled(or given a little tweak). link to the post by hilariousandco : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=879237.msg9707641#msg9707641Newbie jail is entirely different to what is being asked here, and newbie jail is never coming back: Limiting newbie participation is very harmful for a community. Newbie jail will never return: I consider the newbie-jail period to have been extremely damaging to the forum. When barriers to participation are too high, then the best people often just won't go to the trouble of joining, and the people who are willing to jump through the hoops are often people who aren't good for the community: people with nothing better to do, scammers, get-rick-quickers, etc. Having a permanent newbie jail policy would improve things a lot in the short-term, but would end up being a fatal poison to the community.
The low signal-to-noise is a real issue which seriously annoys me and is often on my mind. But as you mention, fixing it non-destructively is difficult.
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There is a button on the upper left corner called patrol.(it can be activated in settings)
I thought it was for everyone to take a look at newbies posts and report them freely if they are spam.
I didn't knew about those "patrollers"...
Personally, I think this patrol button is an interesting idea, and who is willing to help can just report there.
Yeah I know about the patrol, I believe it only shows posts made by newbies. Patrollers were(?) a thing from the early days, and I read somewhere that it was no longer available due to some reason. I don't have a link for it,it'd be great if someone could find it. Edit:
I found a few : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3323623.msg34734013#msg34734013https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=928613.0 |
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Stumbled upon this doodoo today; Without wallet Bitcoin forum account is lassnenn so it's important for forum. it can be safe,when you created an wallet account then you have a password if you want to safe your wallet do not give any one to your password and do not show it any bounty campaign form then you will save your wallet.
I think Ronaldo will be Successor in football team also Ronaldo is most famous then Messi after all Ronaldo has many fans in this world. His football passing and ball distibuted is really good so I think Ronaldo is the successor.
Bitcoin is more popular in our country because of that Now a days Bitcoin is famous in every human also some month ago I see Bitcoin Hunter is 200-300 but now a days Bitcoin Hunter is 4000-5000 it's a lot so I think many people loves Bitcoin and it's more popular in our country.
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In my mind Bitcoin Hunter is banned for few rules
1. They are posting low quality post.
2. They do not work properly on bounty trems and conditions.
3. If they posted any any topic question they do wrong answer again and again.
4. They do not agree to care any wearning. I think those reason Hunter will ba need.
Your knowledge on why users get banned is very wrong. Horrifyingly wrong. Just wrong, wrong and wrong. And your English and your post quality is just garbage: Without wallet Bitcoin forum account is lassnenn so it's important for forum. it can be safe,when you created an wallet account then you have a password if you want to safe your wallet do not give any one to your password and do not show it any bounty campaign form then you will save your wallet.
I think Ronaldo will be Successor in football team also Ronaldo is most famous then Messi after all Ronaldo has many fans in this world. His football passing and ball distibuted is really good so I think Ronaldo is the successor.
Bitcoin is more popular in our country because of that Now a days Bitcoin is famous in every human also some month ago I see Bitcoin Hunter is 200-300 but now a days Bitcoin Hunter is 4000-5000 it's a lot so I think many people loves Bitcoin and it's more popular in our country.
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Patrollers are those staff members who can only moderate newbies. Correct?
But I haven't heard anything about the patrollers in a while now. Do they still act as a role in the moderation staff?
If new global mods can't be hired, patrollers can be of a major help, to handle the newbie spam problem. And there's nothing to lose for the forum and staff worthy users can help the forum. Its a Win-win scenario. Thoughts?
Edit:
Seems like patrollers still are a thing. theymos,can you explain more on this patroller thing?
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It depends upon what he said, report it to the admins/mods only if you find it too abusive. As per the rules there in no mention of such scenario. Just ignore the user,if he is just trying to troll you. |
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In that case I'd like to suggest LoyceV, they are extremely active and interested in moderation stuff, they are actually doing a lot of job on behalf of the moderators. if you were looking for suggestions.
The rest is up to the admin whether they want to hire more mods or not. IMO we should grab people like LoyceV before they get tired and quit their good job at finding bots and spammers.
Again, already suggested. To be clear, new suggestions are welcome. I don't know why I am doing this,even after knowing this might be a big ass deadend,perhaps for the sake of discussion of new staff. I appreciate the support guys, but like I said my reports get handled pretty quickly, and there's probably others which are reporting in better timezones. United Kingdom is a pretty well covered timezone from what I can gather.
I don't think this is about the reports getting handled, but about the distribution of work. There are boards (like Economics and off-topic) that have no moderators. So is why, I am suggesting theymos to atleast appoint volunteers. |
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I know where you are getting at
I don't think you do, and it wasn't pointed at you.
shame on you for backing trust abusers and trying to get me banned, and for what?
Now you can't read as well: but should he be banned? Nah.
You know what, you should be banned. Why? Because you can't understand shit, and you live in a web of lies and fantasies. You're way too reluctant and can't accept the reality.
so that you could be noticed by some DT members and they cheer you up either with listing you on their trust list or giving you positive trust? this is really embarrassing to have a groupthink cartel running around this forum to do whatever they want.
Tell me more about how this forum works? is this the right version?
You get on DT and whatever you do should be trusted all the times and if you say something about the wrongdoings of people you should get tagged and then banned?
Or you get on DT and when you start abusing others and build a fake reputation for yourself by the means of positive trust you should get called out and excluded from DT?
I like the second version more.
That is the opposite of what I want. Stop making up stories,just to prove yourself right, to yourself. That's some next level of patheticness. Even if I get you banned, why would DT members cheer me, I would only be helping this forum and nothing else. Also, I don't want to be a DT member. Do I have to tell that out explicitly? I didn't come here for that, and I don't have the time to handle more and more trolls like you. |
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You mean a Bitcointalk app? Yeah no, that's not happening , an unofficial one exists, but that's no good. And the administration isn't much interested in it.
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I don't really think he's met this qualification, especially the "obviously false nonsense" to an outsider part... and if you are reporting this sort of thing to a mod, I assume you will need a lot of documentation/support to back up the habitual use of obviously false nonsense to an outsider part, and may even have to explain why it's obviously false. Good luck with all that. (Ignore is easier...) Actually all the factors apply to digaran here: If a user is habitually posting obviously false nonsense("obviously false nonsense" to an outsider, NOT to someone who follows or is involved in the discussion) : In a totally irrelevant thread, he posted this: It would be better if we could have the same system with default trust members, many of them are inactive, IMO they should be excluded from DT system after being inactive for some time. speaking of trusting people to moderate, we could really use some help regarding a few rogue DT1 members. because IMO trust system is more important than moderators, if mods do something wrong people could spot them very quickly but we don't know what is going on with some DT members and their inside deals.
Just to stir up trouble, then it's considered trolling, which is prohibited: In the same thread he is also stirring up trouble: Bumping this, for suggestions of new staff(paid or volunteers).
Welsh. he is active and a good reporter, he is also not biased. I don't see why Welsh shouldn't be a moderator. and about the biggest bully in this forum aka OgNasty, he could keep at bullying people with red tags and distribute merits, nothing else. There are way more references where digaran was trolling, but should he be banned? Nah. His stupidity is a good thing for this for the forum, he bloviates a lot, his lack of knowledge on how this forum works, is quite amusing. A temp ban might bring him to senses or or he will start new threads to claim how moderators are abusing their power. And then he will pay someone to sue theymos.  Know where I am getting at? |
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I strongly believe that you got paid with money to hand out this positive trust, can you prove otherwise?
I am accusing you of trust abuse by giving positive trust to these members with no reference, I think you were paid with money to tag them with green, can you prove otherwise?
You do use default trust in exchange of money you lying two face trust abuser.
You said it. He tagged you because he didn't get money for giving trust which you accused him of. Case closed. Read the tag, it says that I have claimed OgNasty is giving positive trust to people using his escrow, spoiler alert: he does.
Where do you find this claim to be false?
Its ok to give a positive trust to those who use Og's escrow service, because they traded with him and trusted him. |
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