......They're supposed to be for registering .bit domains.
Right and we all know how useful and easy to use the whole DOT-BIT system is. |
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Win32 namecoind is a piece of crap and more hassle than it's worth Changed my titles to reflect recent advances.... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=51793.msg619125#msg619125<ORIGINAL POST> Considering NMC is worth next to nothing, I feel that I have invested WAY too much time in trying to get namecoind v.32464 to work properly. Running on Windows Server 2008, regardless of what I try, namecoind FAILS to keep up to date with the current block count. It is pretty much hit-or-miss. I forwarded the proper port, I restart it....sometimes it syncs, sometimes it just doesn't. Is there a cmd line function that I can use to FORCE a network sync ? |
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I still prefer to use BAT files to launch CGMiner (in Windows 7), as I am not aware of the Config file allowing CPU affinity to be set.
Using auto-login on all my Windows rigs, I run 2 BAT files on every machine: 1 that auto starts on boot up without user intervention (in case of reboots/power outages etc) and a second BAT file that is simply a connection menu that allows me to connect to any of 6 pools of my choosing, depending on what is happening in the network or where I want to mine at any given time.
Each menu entry is a different combination of Primary and Backup Pools, including all individual settings that I have found to be most effective on each pool such as Scan time, work que etc, as well as clock speeds and fan settings depending on time of day or local conditions that I have to account for.
In short, BAT files still give me the most flexibility with CGMiner.....especially my menu setup.
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OMFG....EVERYONE posts that I am stupid for paying 5% when I suggest a STABLE PPS POOL, then follow it up with a FREE PPLNS 'plug'. No, we don't think you're stupid, we just think you're a tool. A great tool, mind you... but still a tool. You do good work, though, so it's ok. You pay 5%! The best tool around! THAT was the most pathetic insult ever...... I FEEL LIKE YOU SCAMMED ME out of a proper insult. I am going to have to report this. |
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I refuse to implement paid services on top of the fee I already charge. It just feels completely wrong.
HUH ? so, if you were to code an integrated setup like bitcoinmonitor.com (or whatever it is) you would feel wrong charging for it ? A Pool OP has the greatest advantage to be able to charge for a system like that, because it can be percentage based and not like a 3rd party, constantly paying them a flat 1+ BTC per month for intermittent mining, or no mining at all at times........PERCENTAGE-PAY-PER-USE SERVICES, just like mining fees themselves. Obviously, this will be OPTIONAL ADD-ONS and not manditory. I think it would market itself and you would benefit in the end. Some people would use it, while some would not......and that would be everyone's choice. Those who will want to PLAY, will have to PAY. Sorry if you missunderstood me at first, thinking I meant a flat-across-the-board fee increase to support it. You could easilly have an A'La Carte Menu of addon Fee-based services for people.....and 99% will pay YOU rather than a 3rd party website attached to their accounts. |
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Noone is saying you're crazy. PPS has the lowest possible variance: none. If you want to pay extra for that, that's your choice. Many users prefer PPS even if they have to pay a little extra, and I may implement it in my own pool when I just get the time for it.
OMFG....EVERYONE posts that I am stupid for paying 5% when I suggest a STABLE PPS POOL, then follow it up with a FREE PPLNS 'plug'. ME: I pay 5% Fees to mine PPS. THEM: You are crazy, use a FREE PPLNS Pool. ME: I like having my money available in real time. THEM: I would rather save the 5% Fee and wait as long as it takes. ME: ...and risk not having the FREE pool around, or enough miners to cover your payout ? THEM: well, I consider that acceptable loss, and will be less than spending 5% now. If people didn't have such a hardon for PPLNS and tout it as being the greatest thing going (mostly pool OPs as it were), then perhaps I wouldn't have such a big chip on my shoulder AGAINST IT. I like paying for a service, because it ensures that the service will stay financially viable and give enough incentive for the OP to maintain the pool, hopefully with a few sheckles in his/her pocket for doing so. You always seem to get what you pay for....nothing free is ever good in my books. The only thing in life that is free and any good is pussy......and if you have ever been married, then you will agree that even that is hardly free.....lol Not once in the last couple weeks have I named my pool and I most likely WILL NOT name it (to keep me from looking like a fan boy). I simply stated that I pay 5% and it is the best 5% spent in BTC mining.....and worth every bitcent. |
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ckolivas, do you have an NMC wallet address ?
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Let me put it this way (and I am sure that many people will agree with me)......
I would MUCH rather pay for advanced monitoring/reporting directly to the Pool I was mining, rather than pay a 3rd party service...as I only know of 1 anyways.
If you don't want the money, I understand, but you have the pool, the coding ability and the userbase....WHY NOT OFFER SOMETHING MORE ? (and charge for it)
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I also have an idea for Miner Notifications.....as the traditional 'Worker Notification' is pretty much useless to anyone running CGMiner.
How about this:
Email notification once your Worker drops 20%, or down to 80% of the 30min average ? (not sure if Workers speeds are 30min averaged like the total, or real time)
I'm currently looking for a solution to the email issues. The problem is we have so many users and many of them go on/off unrelated to pool problems. I moved to GMail for handling our email because it reduced the number of emails that never made it to people's inboxes, but idle miner emails were often knocking us above the 500 emails/day limit and stopping other more important emails from getting through. We have such a high volume of emails that its very hard to avoid getting flagged as a spammer, and in some cases the emails were dropped entirely rather than just sent to spam folders. Make it a PAY SERVICE (1% Fee) to keep people honest and from abusing it by leaving it on even if they don't care. |
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You are an idiot.
Ya just had to run to your Girl friend's defence, after he was caught with his foot in his mouth above.
You forgot - PPLNS is for chickenshit Pool OPs that can't afford to run a proper PPS setup and skirt the issue by offering NO FEES......LMAO.
PPLNS is a fine system. Over the long run a user gets the same rewards under PPLNS as they would under proportional, while having a system that can't be hopped. Intermittent miners will receive a higher than normal variance, but it can swing either way (massively positive if they stop just as the pool hits a string of luck, massively less if they stop and the pool never finds a block before they expire). I'm sure it is a fine system, but frankly I am sick and fucking tired of being told that I am somehow crazy for paying 5% for the opportunity to mine at the pool of my choosing currently, because I prefer PPS....and somehow PPLNS is the 'Payment System Of The Gods'....and is FREE...blah...blahty fuckin' blah.... |
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Anything else to add ?
Some scary facts have surfaced in this thread. Let me summarize: - PPLNS & score-based systems make it easier for a greedy pool op to steal from miners by adjusting a timeout or decay rate
- PPLNS can be abused by pool hoppers to steal from other miners
- PPLNS is prone to bad luck
- There is proof somewhere that new reward systems steal from unsuspecting miners
- Meni Rosenfeld's mathematical formulas are biased opinions
- PPLNS is more problematic than most reward systems
- When a group of people make new bitcoins they can't all be winners
If Meni Rosenfeld's research is all wrong and those points above are true, I seriously need to consider other reward systems. At least we are finally getting this properly documented for all newcomers to see. Can you guys help me out by explaining the logic behind the points above? You are an idiot. Ya just had to run to your Girl friend's defence, after he was caught with his foot in his mouth above. You forgot - PPLNS is for chickenshit Pool OPs that can't afford to run a proper PPS setup and skirt the issue by offering NO FEES......LMAO. |
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I also have an idea for Miner Notifications.....as the traditional 'Worker Notification' is pretty much useless to anyone running CGMiner.
How about this:
Email notification once your Worker drops 20%, or down to 80% of the 30min average ? (not sure if Workers speeds are 30min averaged like the total, or real time)
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I am speechless.....
Merged Mining, CGMiner 2.08 and what was already an IMPRESSIVE Stale percentage is getting even smaller. I honestly don't see how things could improve any further, other than my overall speed....lol
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These are all facts.
You scammed yourself. What was lost ? the respect of the forum members reading this for calling out a respected member of the community and looking like a cry baby in the process. ....get over it. |
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Love that PPLNS  ....I would even add a sentence where the belief that PPLNS or score based pools "punish" miners is an urban legend. .....Score based and PPLNS would be the worst if you will be using them for variable amounts of time. .....PPLNS don't punish intermittent miners. ....pool is PPLNS which would brutally punish you for leaving during a block (much like Bitminter). Anything else to add ? |
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Frankly, I refuse to mine on a pool that uses a payout system that can be directly influenced or manipulated by the pool OP with ease, in their favor. Not all, but some pools are actually run for profit. Most OPs aren't going to take the time to develop and support a pool out of their own pocket.... continuously. How can a payment scheme have BOTH the miner's and pool's best interests in mind ? Situations like that simply can not exist, hence all of the fancy payment methods and variations. To dismiss all and believe that most of these were formulated to better protect full time miners from pool hoppers and the like would be silly. The only truely honest/cheatproof payment method that regards the miner moreso than the pool OP's bottom line is PURE PPS. Unfortunately, it is a huge risk for a Pool OP, even using a fee, although by offering it, the pool OP really is showing that he/she has the miner's best interests in mind. PPS variations serve more than just 'protection' for miner's profits....they also move a certain amount of risk down the scale, away from the pool OP's pocket. When I see a pool OP post negatively about PURE PPS, all I see is an OP looking to relieve some of the risks invloved with operating a pool as well as helping to secure profits at the same time.....NOT to better serve his miners/users as one might have everyone believe. It's all about balance. There can't be ALL WINNERS and nothing on the other side of the equation.Back to my opening comment.....'Influence' you ask ? Wrap your minds around this:Greedy Pool OP + PPLNS (or Time/Score Based) & FAST DECAY + ROLLING TIMEOUTS -or- SLOW GETWORK PERFORMANCE (simply helping 'run out the clock') = ...... You get the picture. I almost forgot.... Wouldn't this also make the Pool seem quite LUCKY in the process ? I know the share/hour average of my setup and ONLY mine PPS now....and I don't need to Trust ANYBODY but myself. |
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Before considering a payment method, one should find a pool that they can actually connect to, work with well....with a high submitted share rate, as well as low stales.
A pool can pay out 2x as much as another, but if you can only submit 70% total shares to that pool vs another...and your stale rate is double digits, then you are not doing yourself any favors.
Why I use the pool that I use: (all points SPECIFIC TO ME, YMMV)
- highest hourly submitted share rate (for my setup anyways, total shares submitted. YMMV).
- lowest stale share rate.
- incredible uptime.
- history (been around a while).
- charges a fee (yes, I am a FAN OF PAYING A FEE as I know the pool will be taken care of and will be around in a month).
- transparency (lot of data, past, present).
- stable performance.
I have tried so-called FREE/NO FEE Pools and made LESS...FAR LESS than I do at the Fee-Based PPS Pool that I currently use.
In short:
Take care of your own stats (and know them) before you go shopping for the 'best mining pool rate'.
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Aside from these changes and merged mining, does anybody have some feature requests? I really hate to sound like a broken record....BUT, is there still a chance that the Hall of Fame's "user-row"/highlights/private-26th-row will be back ? I honestly miss this feature, but am very thankfull for all of the other changes that have taken place in the mean time, especially the security hardening Thanks again for everything, Allan ps. Last but not least - How about an Hourly submitted Share count average for each worker ? ...to better monitor performance..... |
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