Are you in Calgary by chance ? I am interested in all 6 5830's.....
I'm south of calgary, in Okotoks. and pickup would be fine with me to save on shipping. PM me your phone number and we can make make arangements Just sent you a PM in regards to a local-ish Cash deal...  |
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Just to be clear though....'Shares' don't show up accepted very quickly.......do they ?
I have been keeping an eye on the P2Pool output and I notice a bit of an up/down speed variation at times and a much slower-than anticipated 'Share' acceptance.
......just thought I would ask to be sure.
Yes, the difficulty is currently ~150, so with 4.5GH/s, you should get a share about every 2 minutes and 23 seconds. Awesome. I just wanted to make sure there wasn't something wrong with how I set things up. |
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Are you in Calgary by chance ? I am interested in all 6 5830's.....
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After how many accepted shares and at what speed/setup ?
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So another unsupported claim to "support" your unsupported claim.
Ive seen the posts where he took "credit" for taking it down. You will have to forgive me for being too lazy to find them. I havent seen him admit he used his pool's hashing power, but thats a fair assumption to make, as I doubt he (or almost any individual) has enough hashing power of himself. Yes, but gmaxwell is using the Merged Mining angle to legitimize this attack (that is, if the pool WAS found to be used)..... OR on the other hand....coming from Luke, that this actually WAS an attack, in which case, only Luke's own personal resources were used. They all seem to have conflicting defences and excuses. |
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I've requested that Jenkins should be banned, so it is now only a matter of time.
There's no point in everyone fighting amongst themslves. You have to atleast try and understand the frustration that he is feeling....and a back-and-forth of 'feeding the fire' is not doing either party any good. As I said a few posts ago, I would like to keep the topic of Luke's Pool Resource misuse alive and on topic, to keep it alive that is. We all don't need to argue or fight with each other. |
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It *WAS* deleted. However, me and tysat petitioned theymos to have it restored and moved.
Thank you for having it restored. |
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I moved 4.5 GH/s over to P2Pool and I was surprised with how easy and straight forward setup was....even adding NMC merged mining with nothing more than a quick addition to BAT file.
Very nice job on the software......and I'm sure it will only get better from here.
Just to be clear though....'Shares' don't show up accepted very quickly.......do they ?
I have been keeping an eye on the P2Pool output and I notice a bit of an up/down speed variation at times and a much slower-than anticipated 'Share' acceptance.
......just thought I would ask to be sure.
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If you had the personal $$$ to get 80 ghash then how do you know he also doesn't have the $$$ needed as well ? Fail yet again. Please post concrete evidence next time before making random statements.
Actually, I've read his Family Blog and everything points to him being as broke as a joke......quite pathetic actually, so I can see his concerns with maintaining BTC's value, as he must use it to feed his family. It was some of most entertaining 'Coupon Clipping' and Religion garbage that I had ever come across. I downloaded full mirrors of all of his online personal websites, for future reference.Unfortunately, everything now seems to be removed from the net, as too many people were given the opportunity to get a glimpse inside the life of such a self-righteous Bible thumper. He seems to be living on love, prayers and donations from the rest of his family (although with a boycott list, as to which products he will not accept as gifts). That's right - a real man who let's the rest of his friends & family pay to raise his kids.....CLASSIC. 80 ghash, did you say ? |
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FWIW, I will prosecute any false reports to the full extent of law. And since I have not broken any laws, all such reports are false.
You obviously don't understand the law very well if you think that it stretches across country borders...LMAO. Civil Law and Dogmatic Law are very different and not universal. |
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If you guys are going to just constantly flame each other, take it to Off-topic. If this little war keeps up I'm going to have to go through and clean this thread and split a bunch of stuff, really don't want to have to do that.... well I'll probably have to clean this thread out anyways.
As long as we can agree that all relevant information in regards to the misuse of the pool's resources and the malicious attack stay up as they should, you will not read another inflammatory comment from me. Cheers. |
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I don't particularly have any incentive to respond to the scammers that I foiled, given the significant cost (in time) to do so. Nor do I have any financial loss or care particularly if people want to stop mining on Eligius because they were in on the scam (or any other reason). I will clarify that Eligius miners were not adversely impacted by this, and that the CLC mining involved only adding data that I hashed myself to my own transactions; and I was careful to ensure that nobody lost any confirmed CLC. If any Eligius miner wishes to inquire further, I will take the time to answer specific to-the-point questions which are signmessage'd with an active (ie, has mined in the past week) Eligius payout address that has earned at least 2000 TBC (5.36870912 BTC) over all time.
Eligius is a Bitcoin mining pool and I am, as always, committed to doing my best to contribute to and protect the Bitcoin ecosystem. Pyramid schemes built upon forks of the Bitcoin software ultimately discredit and harm Bitcoin's reputation. I hope CoiledCoin will be the last of such scams now that it is clear there are people (not just myself) willing to stand up to them. Namecoin alone demonstrates a legitimate, innovative use of Bitcoin technology, and while I don't personally agree with their ideals/goals, I see it as a good thing for Bitcoin and worth cooperating with.
cablepair, regarding Devcoin, I don't see any reason to treat it as different from any other scamcoin. I will at least discuss it with you on IRC before doing anything other than mining it with the almost-unmodified (zero txn fee, zero post-maturity delay) Devcoin client.
P.S. While the opposition seem to be very venemous and vocal, I have gotten a lot more positive support from a head-count perspective.
Expect to be reported to your ISP along with your local Police detachment. A Malicious attack with intent to disrupt another's service resulting in any form of vandalism in any way, shape or form will require investigating on their part with enough complaints and I know we will have enough. You created this problem for yourself, so I would be prepared to suffer the backlash that comes along with it. As a collective, enough of your personal information along with personal references have been obtained, which will also be contacted and informed of your exploits, so that they may judge for themselves, the measure of your resolve, especially as a so-called God-fearing boy. This unfortunately is just the beginning. Expect to be under someone's microscope very soon and for what I can only hope, is a long, inconvenient while. Your fan club. |
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I don't believe I advanced any positions there that I haven't advanced here. Thanks for the retractions of your false allegations, by the way, oh wait. You didn't bother.
The only allegation made against YOU was that you were suspected of being a Lukejr-Cronie...... ..and I didn't see the point in removing it, since it was clearly proven TRUE (all by you none the less). When you first came out casting doubt, offering reason and basically strengthening Luke's position, almost making excuses for him and WHY he did what he did.....people took notice (and some responded). THEN, when you were quoted as part of the 'Crash Celebration' in an IRC chat log, being sure to credit Luke warmly and openly, the rest of the required pieces seemed to fall into place...almost seamlessly, to finally label you as such: a Lukejr-Cronie. |
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I guess gmaxwell has said all he wants to say at this point, in the earlier quote that was posted...when talking about the CLC demise. [10:31] luke-jr coblee: I didn't orphan anything mature
[10:31] coblee luke-jr: oh ok
[10:32] luke-jr I intentionally avoided anyone actually losing money
[10:32] coblee so just mining, not including transactions, and dumping?
[10:33] luke-jr coblee: actually, I decided it was better not to dump
[10:33] luke-jr coblee: I've also asked BTC-e to reverse the dumping I did earlier
[10:33] coblee how would they reverse the dumping?
[10:33] gmaxwell presumably the counterparties would rather have their btc back.
[10:34] gmaxwell So they could just undo the trades, luke didn't withdraw the bitcoin he got.
[10:34] luke-jr coblee: well, presuming by dumping, we mean "selling"
[10:34] TuxBlackEdo what happen?
[10:34] TuxBlackEdo and why are we still awake?
[10:35] coblee this is pretty funny
[10:35] luke-jr TuxBlackEdo: I effectively disabled the latest scamcoin
[10:35] gmaxwell TuxBlackEdo: a new altcoin showed up out of nowhere.. complete with an exchange and a bunch of eager ponzi pumpers.
[10:35] _W_ TuxBlackEdo, it's morning here
[10:35] gmaxwell TuxBlackEdo: and look took charge of the chain.
[10:35] TuxBlackEdo coilcoin, right?
[10:35] luke-jr Coiled*
[10:36] gmaxwell And some people who were planing to make money fast, are none too happy that they can't get any blocks or txn in, and that luke crashed the price on the market.
[10:36] luke-jr why is artforz helping them workaround it?
[10:36] gmaxwell Awesome. The race is on.
[10:36] luke-jr gmaxwell: well, he's just encouraging them to get BTCGuild onboard "next time" -.-
[10:36] luke-jr nothing fancy
[10:37] TuxBlackEdo instead of crashing the price of a alt chain we should try to somehow make the price of namecoin go through the roof
[10:37] gmaxwell oh. meh, well fine. Its true— but since the cost of setting up more merged chains is still high— good luck with that.
[10:37] coblee they are bashing you on btc-e luke-jr lol
[10:37] TuxBlackEdo that's pretty cool though, props luke-jr
[10:37] luke-jr TuxBlackEdo: pfft, you abuse namecoin anyway
[10:38] gmaxwell coblee: it's a little beyond bashing. At least earlier is was pretty scarry.
[10:38] TuxBlackEdo how
[10:38] luke-jr TuxBlackEdo: you just sell them
[10:38] TuxBlackEdo explain how i "abuse" namecoins?
[10:38] coblee scary how?
[10:38] TuxBlackEdo I never sold a namecoin
[10:38] TuxBlackEdo actually i do the opposite
[10:39] TuxBlackEdo while everyone was selling i was setting up big buy orders
[10:39] luke-jr TuxBlackEdo: then why do you want price up?
[10:39] TuxBlackEdo i own a ton of namecoins
[10:40] TuxBlackEdo ill move some namecoins right now to prove
[10:40] gmaxwell TuxBlackEdo: I'll give you an address to move them to.
[10:40] TuxBlackEdo hehe
[10:40] TuxBlackEdo ill move them to
[10:40] luke-jr lol
[10:41] TuxBlackEdo MxbmJyLDcqTmuzcQoGjPen4fW3AdkNLqBP
[10:41] TuxBlackEdo done
[10:42] TuxBlackEdo a412edf5e41529582f138cbc4bd3991203150fab4797fc472853dedd730b5ca9
[10:43] gmaxwell hahah
[10:43] gmaxwell castonbtce: so what can we say CLC stands for?
[10:43] gmaxwell castonbtce: crazy loser coin?
[10:43] gmaxwell k65onyx: catastrophic loss of coins?
[10:43] gmaxwell artforz: lol
[10:43] gmaxwell castonbtce: cunt luke coin
[10:44] luke-jr hmm
[10:44] luke-jr just in case I accidentally orphaned some non-generation, I just let them all through a few blocks ago
[10:44] luke-jr bet they don't notice <.<
[10:45] doublec I saw them
[10:45] gmaxwell well they were saying that you'd stopped earlier, so who knows.
[10:47] TuxBlackEdo how long is namecoin going to take to generate a block...
[10:48] JFK911 ;;bc,stats
[10:48] gribble Current Blocks: 160874 | Current Difficulty: 1159929.4972244 | Next Difficulty At Block: 161279 | Next Difficulty In: 405 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 14 hours, 46 minutes, and 30 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 1221673.16179828 | Estimated Percent Change: 5.32305323054
[10:51] luke-jr reckon I should leave it on overnight?
[10:51] TuxBlackEdo luke-jr, http://explorer.dot-bit.org/a/MxbmJyLDcqTmuzcQoGjPen4fW3AdkNLqBP |
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I am still waiting for gmaxwell to answer why my thread was deleted, before we get too far and forget about this.
Don't worry, its just one developer looking out for another.  There are several mods, more than just gmaxwell. Be careful with the accusations. It's not an accusation, just a question, as he was the most active in the discussion and might have insight./ |
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Am I the only one who sees the attack on CLC as (an illegal) DOS?
At a minimum, alt chains are a playground/proving ground for new features that may (or may not) be worthwhile for inclusion in Bitcoin proper. Regardless of any monetary value in those chains, they provide the community with the opportunity to experiment and try out new ideas. Attacking and destroying something just because you don't like it and you can is wrong.
DOS attacks are against the law (criminal and civil in the US). We can't sit around and let people get away with DOS'ing new chains just because they're new. I hope those responsible start getting prosecuted.
With enough complaints to Luke's ISP, I am sure something can be done......after all, just because his immediate connection wasn't responsible for teh attack, he used that connection to orchestrate a large scale attack using remote computers at his disposal.....like a BOTNET OP. |
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My thread in regards to "Pool Ops being the new Alt Coin Police" has been DELETED from the Pools Forum.
Censorship at it's finest.
I feel as though I am about to be banned....and I guess that makes sense, considering this forum allows scammers of all sorts to thrive in the Marketplace without consequence, yet a LEGITIMATE POST in regards to a malicious act of vandalism is deleted from view.
Par for the course, as it seems.
Just in case this is my last post, thanks for the memories.
I am still waiting for gmaxwell to answer why my thread was deleted, before we get too far and forget about this. That thread was DIRECTLY related to this discussion and was about as ON TOPIC as one can get, under the circumstances. Both THIS post and that thread belong where they were intended. |
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The actions in question were malicious. I do not grant Luke or anybody else the authority to choose which coins will succeed or fail. I do not excuse bad behavior. This is not the wild west and it does matter how you act. I urge my fellow miners to vote with their feet and run from any pool that would take such liberties with their members.
Well said. You pretty much hit the nail on the head.......It's unfortunate that more people do not feel the same way. |
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gmaxwell ..... Why was My thread in regards to " Pool Ops being the new Alt Coin Police" DELETED from the Pools Forum ? |
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