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June 11, 2015, 07:40:00 PM
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pastebin *cl any link ?
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June 11, 2015, 07:42:28 PM
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What is the value for the Hosting Price (SC Per GB Per Month) that best corresponds to this estimated 2.3 KS /GB ? Trying to set a competitive rate here Smiley



Current redundancy is 8, and the time is 6 weeks instead of 4. Sorry because that's confusing. But that corresponds to something like 180 SC / GB / Month.

There is an estimator on the hosting page. My estimator says 47 SC / GB / Month is competitive, which is disjoint. Why is there a disparity? The renter estimator looks at 12 randomly selected hosts (cheaper hosts are selected more frequently), and the host estimator looks at 8 randomly selected hosts (cheaper hosts are selected more frequently). The disparity means that host prices are all over the place right now, some are very cheap (my price is 6 SC / GB / Mo) and some are expensive (#12 seems to be around 1KS / GB / Month).

Right now, there is very little tooling to help you know what price to set. Until people are using the storage more, you're unlikely to make much money. That's partially our fault because the renter is difficult to use (we've got cool things in the pipeline though), and partially just because the system is new and nobody trusts it.

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Estimated Price Per GB: 9544371788.52846 KS

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Why is that number so big?

I tried to announce some free space, but nobody wants to take my cheap prizes  Grin

The cost estimator glitches out sometimes. If you restart siad, the problem should resolve. My current estimated price is 2.3 KS / GB (6 weeks of storage). That seems pretty reasonable to me

Just a few people are uploading right now and we're not sure exactly what it's going to take to kick-off people using the storage feature. I'm sure the existing 500mb cap has something to do with it. I'll probably post some links to share my image library, maybe you guys have stuff you're interested in sharing too.

I only uploaded a few small files. But nothing is clear or explained exactly how all this works. For example,
in google drive, I choose an amount of storage 1TB for 9.99 a month (recent huge price drop but we can talk about that later).
So now as a user i know I've paid for 1 TB of storage for one month. Its mine to add and delete as many files as often as I
want for that cost I already paid.

Now can one of the devs give a detailed explanation how renting storage works now and how it will work in the future?

Right now when I upload I don't know how much its going to cost me. I don't know if I can download it and reupload it
at additional cost. I don't know what these contracts mean because Sia doesn't ask me or tell me how much I am paying
or let me know I'm entering a contract.


Our next release is going to have accounts in the wallet. The renter is going to have its own account. You can put money into the renter account, and set spending limits. The account will tell you how much money is being spent. This is not going to be on the renter page.

The idea is, like dropbox, you should not have to worry about price each time you upload a file. Unlike dropbox, you should not have to pay for storage that you do not use. It should just be metered. Storage should be more like electricity, where you don't think about the cost every time you use it, you just use what you need and have some awareness of whether you're spending a lot or a little.

You can always check the account and see how much you've spent at any given point, and you can have some certainty that you aren't going to exceed some limit.

Renting won't continue to be the block box that it currently is.
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June 11, 2015, 07:44:03 PM
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pastebin *cl any link ?

I don't think it'll be that much faster, but try this one: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/NebulousLabs/Sia-GPU-Miner/minor/sia-gpu-miner.cl
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June 11, 2015, 07:49:21 PM
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thx
old kernel - 80 MH/s
new kernel  - 110MH/s

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June 11, 2015, 07:57:17 PM
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In the renter tab, there's a button 'add ascii file'. Paste the text on the pastebin into that to get my files:

Mr. Ando of the Woods: http://pastebin.com/ijpN2Xsk
Feynman - What keeps a train on the track: http://pastebin.com/gN9Fha0j
Feynman- Rubber bands: http://pastebin.com/tFdJTwK6
Fever the Ghost: http://pastebin.com/pm9RBu8J

These are some videos that have brought me amusement of some kind. First is some weird animated story. Second and third are small lectures by Richard Feynman. Fourth is a psychedelic music video.

We're building a platform called 'Sunfish' which will make sharing and tagging files a lot easier. The early version of that will be ready in July.
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June 11, 2015, 07:59:01 PM
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We're building a platform called 'Sunfish' which will make sharing and tagging files a lot easier. The early version of that will be ready in July.

Sunfish is going to be an open source file tracker, anybody is going to be able to run their own sunfish server, and the GUI will have support for pointing at custom sunfish instances.
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June 11, 2015, 08:01:03 PM
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In the renter tab, there's a button 'add ascii file'. Paste the text on the pastebin into that to get my files:

Mr. Ando of the Woods: http://pastebin.com/ijpN2Xsk
Feynman - What keeps a train on the track: http://pastebin.com/gN9Fha0j
Feynman- Rubber bands: http://pastebin.com/tFdJTwK6
Fever the Ghost: http://pastebin.com/pm9RBu8J

These are some videos that have brought me amusement of some kind. First is some weird animated story. Second and third are small lectures by Richard Feynman. Fourth is a psychedelic music video.

We're building a platform called 'Sunfish' which will make sharing and tagging files a lot easier. The early version of that will be ready in July.

This is awsome!  Shocked
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June 11, 2015, 09:13:10 PM
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Yes thx!

7950: stock settings

Went from 53 MH to 70 MH 32% increase in speed.

Keep tweaking on it lol, where heading in the right direction - UP!

If we can double or triple that figure we'll be right on   Grin

Going to try it next on 7970's

Still get 95 on the other gpu-miner, but glitches and reports bogus numbers and crashes often Sad

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June 11, 2015, 09:29:43 PM
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In the renter tab, there's a button 'add ascii file'. Paste the text on the pastebin into that to get my files:

Mr. Ando of the Woods: http://pastebin.com/ijpN2Xsk
Feynman - What keeps a train on the track: http://pastebin.com/gN9Fha0j
Feynman- Rubber bands: http://pastebin.com/tFdJTwK6
Fever the Ghost: http://pastebin.com/pm9RBu8J

These are some videos that have brought me amusement of some kind. First is some weird animated story. Second and third are small lectures by Richard Feynman. Fourth is a psychedelic music video.

We're building a platform called 'Sunfish' which will make sharing and tagging files a lot easier. The early version of that will be ready in July.

This is awsome!  Shocked

This is awesome! Looking to buy SIAFUNDS!! ha, seriously, sell me some.

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June 11, 2015, 10:12:50 PM
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Is there a way to buy siafunds? I would really want to have at least one.
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June 12, 2015, 12:24:02 AM
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Is there a way to buy siafunds? I would really want to have at least one.

Yeah Taek, are you planning to float siafunds on an open market again?

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June 12, 2015, 12:49:03 AM
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In the renter tab, there's a button 'add ascii file'. Paste the text on the pastebin into that to get my files:

Mr. Ando of the Woods: http://pastebin.com/ijpN2Xsk
Feynman - What keeps a train on the track: http://pastebin.com/gN9Fha0j
Feynman- Rubber bands: http://pastebin.com/tFdJTwK6
Fever the Ghost: http://pastebin.com/pm9RBu8J

These are some videos that have brought me amusement of some kind. First is some weird animated story. Second and third are small lectures by Richard Feynman. Fourth is a psychedelic music video.

We're building a platform called 'Sunfish' which will make sharing and tagging files a lot easier. The early version of that will be ready in July.

I watched them all very cool thanks.

Mr. Ando of the Woods......... speechless. I thought I was weird.
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June 12, 2015, 02:51:21 AM
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If we're sharing things we've uploaded that have inspired us in our lives I'll present to the class!

http://pastebin.com/Ng24TfEj

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June 12, 2015, 02:57:30 AM
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Ha Sia quickly becomes SiaTube


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June 12, 2015, 05:17:17 AM
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He implied before that it wont be the case, so there will be "officially" around less than 2000 siafunds in circulation ( because Nebulous will not part with theirs).
Need confirmation from the devs though Smiley

 
Is there a way to buy siafunds? I would really want to have at least one.

Yeah Taek, are you planning to float siafunds on an open market again?
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June 12, 2015, 05:31:04 AM
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Is there a way to buy siafunds? I would really want to have at least one.

Yeah Taek, are you planning to float siafunds on an open market again?

We won't be selling any siafunds, but as soon as we've got the siafund wallet up and running the other holders of siafunds will be able to sell theirs. The code should be ready sometime tomorrow, but I'm not sure how long it'll be until we release 0.3.3.2.
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June 12, 2015, 05:39:30 AM
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So what i said was true
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June 12, 2015, 08:22:27 AM
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My hash rate is changing constantly/rapidly from 40.--- to 90.--- MH/s.
What might be causing this?
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June 12, 2015, 08:35:58 AM
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My hash rate is changing constantly/rapidly from 40.--- to 90.--- MH/s.
What might be causing this?

Need higher intensity, likely.
How can I do that without bat file?
Thanks
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June 12, 2015, 09:09:20 AM
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My hash rate is changing constantly/rapidly from 40.--- to 90.--- MH/s.
What might be causing this?

Need higher intensity, likely.
How can I do that without bat file?
Thanks

Either use a command prompt, or use a batch file.
I made a batch file but it says "unknown option -- I"
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