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April 10, 2016, 11:40:30 AM
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That Snake name big verntog🐍


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Soon bitebi9 going to close because verntog (osama bin laden of bitcoin ) n his employees troops going to jail then
, it means bitebi9 users now in dangerous zone😨

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April 10, 2016, 03:14:04 PM
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Soon bitebi9 going to close because verntog (osama bin laden of bitcoin ) n his employees troops going to jail then
, it means bitebi9 users now in dangerous zone😨


Or it might fail due to the overwhelming volume at the exchange:

24 Hour Volume:   3.7540 CNY

3.754 Chinese Yuan equals 0.58 US Dollar


Another failed project for the giant douche.

Im sure he will be holding up liquor stores to pay for his Chinese whore any day now. 
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April 10, 2016, 08:18:18 PM
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thunderjet ok you've made a pretty convincing case that's some pretty excellent forensic accounting. Do you have any credentials that could qualify you as an expert witness/would you if offered?

The facts Thunderjet finds speak for themselves. And there are plenty more forensics out there at Bittrex since that account where funds moved in and out of can be scrutinized. Whether Bittrex will be forthcoming is another question. If Cryptsy wanted to stop these coins it would have been so easy to do. The so called hacker may have made off with 100BTC before the first send but they had to wait every day to get the other coin out progressively. This is proof enough to anyone that it is an inside job. Coupled with all the other evidence it is a pretty compelling case for an inside job.

If Bittrex cooperates eventually it might help identify someone. Tracking forward may also show the coins go to a new exchange to sell as a real person who had to give credentials. Only problem is that those credentials are probably Cryptsy users ID's stolen and used to open fake accounts to launder the money with. This would only be more proof of an inside job though, and not inside meaning the Cryptsy users they used as fake ID did it. lol
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April 10, 2016, 08:23:11 PM
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He has broken up a lot of it into little chunks but it looks like his looting activity has mostly stopped since he was ordered to stop. This might mean he's desparate for funds since he really hasn't spent the "dirty" "hacked" coins. Maybe he has more money than we even think but he should be feeling a cash crunch right about now. Let's keep a close eye on all those coins to see if he pulls a desperation move soon. Remember Paul has been holding massive reserves of POS coins so his hyperstake holdings etc might be big but who knows.
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April 10, 2016, 08:28:31 PM
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thunderjet ok you've made a pretty convincing case that's some pretty excellent forensic accounting. Do you have any credentials that could qualify you as an expert witness/would you if offered?

The facts Thunderjet finds speak for themselves.


Yeah, but in order for Lawyers to bring these facts into litigation/trial(and explain to jury/judge) they need an expert witness. Thunderjet looks like he's about halfway cracked this case wide open, all they need is to follow up on his investigation, case solved I think. Vern looks guilty when you look at the forensics on these coins and compare them to Vern's known timeline of events, it all fits and makes sense. Everything points to him, He has alot of explaining to do, and his silence speaks volumes.
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April 10, 2016, 08:51:34 PM
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Vern, if you're reading this then you have to realize you aren't getting away with it. The best move is to send all the embezzled coins to the receiver and walk away. Have Eternal Insolent or whoever your accomplice is put the coins back and just announce that the hacker(s) got desparate and returned the coins which would be the truth. The lawsuit will be dropped and your chance of going to jail will be minimized. You made a big mistake and now you're desperate. There's still a chance for you to do the right thing here and give up on the embezzlement scheme. Ryan Kennedy and Mark Karpeles both tried essentially the same scheme you are now trying to pull. You don't have to wind up like them.
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"Former Moolah CEO Ryan Kennedy has been arrested over the theft of 3,700 Bitcoins from the now defunct Bitcoin exchange Mintpal.

Troubles at Mintpal first emerged in July 2014 when the company reported that it had been “hacked” and had lost a large amount of a different cryptocurrency called VeriCoin. It turns out that was only the tip of the iceberg.

Following the original security incident Kennedy, then going by the name of Alex Green moved to take over Mintpal through his company Moolah in a deal which landed him approximately 35 percent of the company, but gave Moolah full control of MintPal."

Vern, don't be next crypto conman to get sent to jail. Give it up, you can still walk away from this. Xia, DC Girl, Horus, JSHock, NerdLifeLabs, Lorrie Nettles, anyone who Vern will listen to you don't have to go down as his accomplices or get dragged into court and sued, etc if Vern makes this right. If you have communication with Vern, please tell him to do the right thing here for everybody's sake you guys have got to talk him out of this. Ryan Kennedy and Mark Karpeles thought they had invented the perfect crime also, you've got to talk Vern out of it. Somebody has got to be able to talk some sense into Vern.
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April 10, 2016, 11:32:12 PM
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Hahahahaha, that shake weight photo, classic  Cheesy

I got to revisit this old post of mine - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=262052.msg8808590#msg8808590 - when I saw that Marshall Long is buds with Abram Kottmeier as well.

At last count, Marshall Long as been associated with no less than six scam outfits.

As far as I know, we brought him on around the time Mintsy started, as he has mining expertise.  I was against this, but it was a call made above me.

I would love to see what you guys dig up, I'll just watch and if you have any questions I may know answers to, feel free to ask.

Edit : Marshall was definitely not a co-founder. No idea why he says he was. Thanks for bringing it up.

Odd, how John MacPherson aka Horus was able to voice his opinion to a Paul Vernon et al. against Marshall Long being brought on board in spite of not communicating with Paul much.

Also, Horus forgot all about he and Marshall Long and Paul Vernon being co-founders of Cryptsy Canada, using Horus' Cryptsy-paid-for home as an address on the corp papers, where Horus had been living for about six months then, the home becoming an office-cum-residence for Cryptsy Canada.

Don't bother asking Horus questions, for that pig left the sty ages ago en route to Texas to service Ginny, Jim Shockney's wife, who probably lost her fuckin' mind since losing two sons.
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April 10, 2016, 11:58:51 PM
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Vern, don't be next crypto conman to get sent to jail. Give it up, you can still walk away from this. Xia, DC Girl, Horus, JSHock, NerdLifeLabs, Lorrie Nettles, anyone who Vern will listen to you don't have to go down as his accomplices or get dragged into court and sued, etc if Vern makes this right.

yes... yes they do. Just because he returns the stolen coins will not make things better for the whole crew. They ran a ponzi scam.  They will be held accountable for it as it should be.
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April 11, 2016, 12:28:03 AM
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They still have the coins though. Vern does at least. He can still return them. The clock is ticking. As the events unfold in the next few months I think if Vern returns the coins now he can still keep himself and his accomplices out of jail, or minimize the legal liability at least. It's the same situation Karpeles was in when the "missing" coins were tracked to his wallet. It's obvious at this point Vern is guilty.
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April 11, 2016, 01:01:19 AM
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https://angel.co/cryptsy/activity



Written by Marshal Long on March 19, 2015: https://www.weusecoins.com/how-to-mine-bitcoins/

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Since the difficulty is really high.  So, we'll come in.  We'll implement some software so they don't have to have 20 guys run up and down the aisles of the data center.  We also just recently signed some contracts to move a rather large exchange to China.  That's an exchange called Cryptsy.  So, they're expanding to China to kind of serve this under-served population that's, you know, a billion and a half people that are hungry for something.

On March 14, 2015 (a SATURDAY), Marshall Long invests in Cryptsy. Less than a week later, Marshall's states in an interview how Cryptsy's going to China, not incorporating there till July 2015.

This fucker Marshall Long should be used as target practice for blind shooters unable to hit the broadside of a barn so that they'll at least be able to earn one stripe for marksmanship.
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April 11, 2016, 01:05:46 AM
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They still have the coins though. Vern does at least. He can still return them. The clock is ticking. As the events unfold in the next few months I think if Vern returns the coins now he can still keep himself and his accomplices out of jail, or minimize the legal liability at least. It's the same situation Karpeles was in when the "missing" coins were tracked to his wallet. It's obvious at this point Vern is guilty.

Now,after receiveship it will be good to look at Cryptsy wallets carefully and compare all these suspicious transactions(including money transactions of course).When we are talking about blockchain expertise,it is very hard to say what can be enough credentials for the court,because it is something so new,there are no school or something similar for that.Maybe these guys from Chain analysis ,which have company for blockchain expertise will have enough credentials for the court:

https://www.chainalysis.com/
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April 11, 2016, 01:28:19 AM
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They still have the coins though. Vern does at least. He can still return them. The clock is ticking. As the events unfold in the next few months I think if Vern returns the coins now he can still keep himself and his accomplices out of jail, or minimize the legal liability at least. It's the same situation Karpeles was in when the "missing" coins were tracked to his wallet. It's obvious at this point Vern is guilty.

Now,after receiveship it will be good to look at Cryptsy wallets carefully and compare all these suspicious transactions(including money transactions of course).When we are talking about blockchain expertise,it is very hard to say what can be enough credentials for the court,because it is something so new,there are no school or something similar for that.Maybe these guys from Chain analysis ,which have company for blockchain expertise will have enough credentials for the court:

https://www.chainalysis.com/
Thunderjet good job with your wallet forensics. Just saw this thought you might wanna see it.
The Cryptsy UNO cold wallet has been moved to a wallet at Bittrex this sunday .  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=527500.msg14494331#msg14494331

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April 11, 2016, 01:28:52 AM
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I’m hearing some stray reports, is it possible cryptsy alts being placed for sale on bittrex right now?
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April 11, 2016, 01:34:12 AM
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I’m hearing some stray reports, is it possible cryptsy alts being placed for sale on bittrex right now?

Check this out  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=527500.msg14494331#msg14494331

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April 11, 2016, 01:40:59 AM
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I’m hearing some stray reports, is it possible cryptsy alts being placed for sale on bittrex right now?

Check this out  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=527500.msg14494331#msg14494331
Thx for that. 200 million DGB turned up there today. Don't know where from as yet. Seems like a strange place to put it!
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April 11, 2016, 02:06:18 AM
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Perhaps we should notify exchanges of these transactions? btc-e, kraken, etc?

P.S. I think there's a good chance the hacker is following this thread, and may even be participating.

Of course he is. Hacker is Vernon and he reads it daily.. how else would he know to change bitebi9 details from Bao to his chinese mistress (which he abandoned his US wife and kids for). How else would Horus, Mullick, Jshock and the others get their info so they can try and protect themselves from the bs they brought on their customers. They only read this thread because they are at the exposure stage and try to downplay what was done.

JShock or Cryptsy_Jim still hasn't given us the plausable story that cryptocracker gave them. JShock complains that people just accuse and put shit on others and don't ask questions. People have repeatedly asked him to give the story that made Paul Vernon think it was plausable.

So lets ask it a final time.

JShock.... or Cryptsy_Jim if you prefer. WHAT was the plausable story that cryptocracker gave Paul Vernon that you were privy to that made him think it was legit? You owe this to the customers whos funds you lost, so please enlighten us or have you gone dark again until another big thing comes out?




How else would DCGirl know that the name Susan Wilson is affiliated with her, hence her coming here ASAP to ward off the connection.

All in all, we've witnessed a long con, with Paul Vernon claiming to have gotten in Bitcoin in 2011, then taking a break, with Cryptsy being registered on 2012-02-09T17:45:01.00Z, Paul supposedly not being active again till early 2013 tinkering in Litecoin, then creating a few pools, to bringing Cryptsy to life in less than two months with BitJohn being a cheerleader for the new dude (Paul) on the scene while he (BitJohn/John Hammes) supposedly being in a war zone in Afghanistan playing Cryptsy support sans pay because he thought it was fun, only to later vacant his paid position because ... wait for it... he wasn't being paid enough for ALL the fuckin' work he was doing, his exit coinciding with the divorce filing, with same true for most other higher-ups except Horus, living comfortably numb in the fully paid for condo office-cum-residence on Cryptsy's dime... make that Cryptsy's users' dimes.

Iam sure you are right that DCGirl read these posts - her quick reaction prove it, but is she really Susan Wilson? That woman is first class scammer,playing only with big boys(multi-millioners and billionaires).What could she provide to Vernon? Maybe some rich investors,but did not find that any of them were interested for Cryptsy.Except that name for a game Whack a Troll, did not find any real connection.

When I read about Susan Wilson,how she cold blooded using her own children for scamming people,there is no doubt that she is cold,very eloquent,very secure,highly focused and ruthless person which achieves goals by any means neccessary - true machiavellian type of person.On the other hand DCGirl posts are talking that she is quite different - she is also smart,but insecure person,much more emotional.It seems that she had almost fatalistic point of view,that is inevitable that one day she will find her name on this forum - like people convicted to death sentence waiting for a day when executioner will come for them.


But,now when court gave receivership of Cryptsy to plantiffs,I expect that one of first things will be to publish full list of Cryptsy employees,time period of theirs work and salaries.Then we will know all their true identities for sure.Maybe we even see episode dedicated to Cryptsy on BLACKLIST TV serie - BITEBI BITE Cheesy


I dont know if you see mine post from last week,when I put identity of Cryptsy main financial person Roman Almanza who worked on Cryptsy to the last days:



I found that 4 persons left to work on Cryptsy to the very end - Jim Shockney,Horus,Mullick and I thought that 4th would be DC Girl.

I was wrong,4th person was Roman Almanza,Senior Financial Analyst,the person who was responsible for all finances on Cryptsy and the one who knows all about Cryptsy money operations.He could be valuable witness.

He first studied business and financial administration in Saratov,Russia and interesting thing is that he appears by two different names - Dmitry R Almanza and Roman Almanza.




http://www.indeed.com/r/Roman-Almanza/450c10f4bc30d741#_ga=1.7364658.1263527337.1459745828







WELL DONE @thunderJet

DCGirl is not the nasty Susan Wilson, who, indeed, labeled her own sons as "mean" to get sympathy for her daughter's fundraising scamola.
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April 11, 2016, 02:29:01 AM
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... That being said, our community deserves their casinocoin and I don't think they should lose $3m+ to Paul's scam if we hit our targets this year.


Wow... I would have thought the correct answer was none of us should loose our coins to Paul's scam, but thats just me.

paul and the c crew stole from all of us, why would the holders of any one coin get to recover their losses (and potential gains) when so many lost so much?


Getting completely ripped off by cryptsy was a risk that all of cyptsy's customers walked into with their eyes wide open. At this point, you guys should work on accepting that it is extremely unlikely that anyone will get anything back. If you put thousands of dollars into a risky exchange like this and got burned, sure I feel bad for you. It's a real shame. Crypto suffers across the board everytime this kind of thing happens. With regard to each of Paul's victims, keep in mind that you are lying to yourself if you didn't know that losing all you coins wasn't a definite possible outcome. I liken this to banging a prostitute without a condom and then getting angry when you find out she gave you herpes. This is one instance where your greed, laziness, poor decision making, or a combination of these caught up with you and you paid the price.

Imagine this scenario: 3 neighbors loan a 4th neighbor collectively a chainsaw, a leaf blower, and a lawn mower. Unfortunately, the neighbor's home gets robbed and someone steals the lawn mower. Does that give the neighbor the right to sell his other neighbors' chainsaw and leaf blower, then split the proceeds between all 3? Of course not. So stop with that "they stole from all of us" bullshit. Only a handful of coins were stolen. The rest of the coins could have been fully returned to their rightful owners.


2 crimes occurred here. Someone hacker or insider stole BTC, Doge, LTC, whatever. Then Paul stole all the rest of his depositors coins after bizarrely and seemingly arbitrarily releasing several types of altcoins.

As the developer of casinocoin, we have considered two possible options to recover those coins. The first was to identify cryptsy's wallets, make them unspendable, and generate new coins to distribute to those who could prove their casinocoin balances. We chose not to do this because of the requirement for a hardfork and we would like to urge Cryptsy to return casinocoins to their rightful owners. The second option was to create a new coin and kickoff a program of exchanging current CSC for a new blockchain one by one with personal verification. Paul and anyone associated with Cryptsy or their shill bankruptcy would not be allowed to participate in this and ultimately the coins cryptsy is holding would cease to exist. This is an option that I would still be open to, but again I would rather avoid any sort of centralized action and would rather give those clowns some time to do the right thing and return the CSC to their rightful owners. However, they should be aware that any altcoin could decide to take back their coins trapped in Cryptsy if they decide to do so as a community. The dev can produce a wallet to recover them and the community can endorse the action by the majority simply adopting the modified wallet. If you want this, talk to your devs. Get your coins back. The BTC, LTC, DOGE, whatever holders that were robbed. You're not likely to get anything back if these altcoin communities want their coins back anyway.

There is a big difference between a neighbor and an insolvent company facing lawsuits.

Their customer's assets are not Cryptsy's assets.

Moving to Puerto Rico...
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April 11, 2016, 02:45:42 AM
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They still have the coins though. Vern does at least. He can still return them. The clock is ticking. As the events unfold in the next few months I think if Vern returns the coins now he can still keep himself and his accomplices out of jail, or minimize the legal liability at least. It's the same situation Karpeles was in when the "missing" coins were tracked to his wallet. It's obvious at this point Vern is guilty.

Now,after receiveship it will be good to look at Cryptsy wallets carefully and compare all these suspicious transactions(including money transactions of course).When we are talking about blockchain expertise,it is very hard to say what can be enough credentials for the court,because it is something so new,there are no school or something similar for that.Maybe these guys from Chain analysis ,which have company for blockchain expertise will have enough credentials for the court:

https://www.chainalysis.com/
Thunderjet good job with your wallet forensics. Just saw this thought you might wanna see it.
The Cryptsy UNO cold wallet has been moved to a wallet at Bittrex this sunday .  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=527500.msg14494331#msg14494331


If you look carefully at this UNO address on Bittrex uWCVvkiyUqXDiQ8nczaoLrWjqScr4jvnnz which received UNOs from Cryptsy cold wallet,you can see that it got first 25 UNOs (probably control transaction) on 7th.March.2016 - 3 weeks before receivership . Rest of them came yesterday.

So,this 15000 UNO transaction has been done by someone who had control of UNO cold wallet on Cryptsy at 7th.March.2016 and we all know who is that person - Paul Vernon.

Unfortunately,it looks like Vernon copied wallet.dat files from wallets on Cryptsy and now wants to exchange rest of altcoins for BTCs.His big wallets with BTCs taken directly from Crypytsy and from selling altcoins are discovered and compromised,so he cant touch them.Bitebi9 is dead,no volume at all,no income,but he has a lot of expenses, from child alimony to paying big expensive lawer,so he probably desperately needs influx of uncompromised BTCs.I dont think so that this account on Bittrex is on his name,but probably on some poor guy/girl whose gave identity data to Cryptsy.

Maybe big players in crypto world know something about it,because yesterday we had unusally big drop of all altcoins value,while BTC price was stable.









One more thing - I followed UNO address of Cryptsy cold wallet(from the last one address before move on Bittrex) backward on the blockchain to see point of origin of wallet for that address,because that last known address has no label,so someone on Bittrex could tell you are wrong.But, you are right - I found point of origin and it is Cryptsy UNO cold wallet ,no doubt on that:

That point of origin is UNO address(49.000 UNOs) - ucUNib5VsyTHfdz7EQFeqfsvyMgEX9Jhju ,which is positively identified on blockchain as Cryptsy address:


https://chainz.cryptoid.info/uno/tx.dws?627285.htm


https://chainz.cryptoid.info/uno/address.dws?ucUNib5VsyTHfdz7EQFeqfsvyMgEX9Jhju.htm


If you go one more step backward from address - ucUNib5VsyTHfdz7EQFeqfsvyMgEX9Jhju - you will see address uV3ZkXabHfYoBCJpcEX9W7qKH6L6KqkMHy with 50.000 UNOs from where UNOs were transferred to    ucUNib5VsyTHfdz7EQFeqfsvyMgEX9Jhju   :

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/uno/address.dws?uV3ZkXabHfYoBCJpcEX9W7qKH6L6KqkMHy.htm


Now pay attnetion on funds which came to the address uV3ZkXabHfYoBCJpcEX9W7qKH6L6KqkMHy  - on 50000 UNO deposit (block 507095) it leads right to old URAN wallet of Cryptsy :   

uRAN4dj3yG8n93obakUHT8siVQap47bHrN


https://chainz.cryptoid.info/uno/tx.dws?617298.htm


Things are more than clear now



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April 11, 2016, 03:50:08 AM
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Horrifying  moments😫 tell me, it not true
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Ah ahahahaha I'm angry 😬

Vern I going to kill you /unless stop his shit now
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