CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action

[sirazimuth]

hi I'm actually bigvern I will answer any questions you have for me. I just watched moonlight it made me cry and I'm about to roast some chinese beets. I'm a person just like any of you and it's really mean how you're kind of picking on me and stuff, but whatever. any questions just shoot, I'm an open book

Really?  Here's my question: when are you going to give me back my 25 DASH?  It's a lot bigger deal to me now that the price has been pumped.  I suspect that a lot more people are going to revisit this debacle now that the stakes are a bit higher.  A fifty dollar loss is easier to ignore than a now 2500 dollar loss....

wait.....you know that isn't actually him, right?

gamfreak11 newbie on bitcointalk roasting chinese beets?!! and watching moonlight no less? of course its him!!!
 yo vern you scumbag! gimme back my 10 gazillion tak coin, you fucking bitcoin thieving wanker!!! or I'll call the chinese police on your scammy ass!

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[Gleb Gamow]

hi I'm actually bigvern I will answer any questions you have for me. I just watched moonlight it made me cry and I'm about to roast some chinese beets. I'm a person just like any of you and it's really mean how you're kind of picking on me and stuff, but whatever. any questions just shoot, I'm an open book

Really?  Here's my question: when are you going to give me back my 25 DASH?  It's a lot bigger deal to me now that the price has been pumped.  I suspect that a lot more people are going to revisit this debacle now that the stakes are a bit higher.  A fifty dollar loss is easier to ignore than a now 2500 dollar loss....

wait.....you know that isn't actually him, right?

Wait... I just sent him $1,000 and he - thinking it was Paul Vernon - was gonna send me the private keys to the $10M worth of BTC. HOW CAN I BE SO STUPID! 

[thunderjet]

Chinese put Vernon company on theirs blacklist due to conducting serious illegal business :

[HI-TEC99]

Chinese put Vernon company on theirs blacklist due to conducting serious illegal business :

I have no doubt you are correct, but how do you know that business belongs to Paul Vernon? That screenshot only names Liu Xiuhai, and a quick google for that name and Paul Vernon didn't produce and links between the two.

Your blockchain analysis of Cryptsy's wallets was astounding, so your business analysis skills are probably equally astounding.

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After some more googling I found this, but do you have more proof that Paul Vernon controls Paul Dalian Technologies?

*snip*

According to the Google Translation of the Chinese company registration documents, “Liu Xiuxia” is the owner of Paul [Bao Luo] Dalian Technologies, the same Paul Dalian Technologies that was registered shortly after Cryptsy sent funds to BTCC and the same company that registered Bitebi9 using Vernon’s @projectinvestors.com email.

[STT]

What was the conclusion of Cryptsy wallet analysis, anything interesting turn up ?   Dont the Chinese label all owners of bitcoin related industry as unauthorised or illegal
Luckily I never had DASH on my list of alt coins or I'd be crying right now.  I had mostly BLK and they let me withdraw that in the dying days though it was all the wrong price

[Gleb Gamow]

Chinese put Vernon company on theirs blacklist due to conducting serious illegal business :

I have no doubt you are correct, but how do you know that business belongs to Paul Vernon? That screenshot only names Liu Xiuhai, and a quick google for that name and Paul Vernon didn't produce and links between the two.

Your blockchain analysis of Cryptsy's wallets was astounding, so your business analysis skills are probably equally astounding.

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After some more googling I found this, but do you have more proof that Paul Vernon controls Paul Dalian Technologies?

*snip*

According to the Google Translation of the Chinese company registration documents, “Liu Xiuxia” is the owner of Paul [Bao Luo] Dalian Technologies, the same Paul Dalian Technologies that was registered shortly after Cryptsy sent funds to BTCC and the same company that registered Bitebi9 using Vernon’s @projectinvestors.com email.

Here's the proof you're looking for, bud: http://coinjournal.net/cryptsy-paul-vernon-exchange-china/

[HI-TEC99]

What was the conclusion of Cryptsy wallet analysis, anything interesting turn up ?   Dont the Chinese label all owners of bitcoin related industry as unauthorised or illegal
Luckily I never had DASH on my list of alt coins or I'd be crying right now.  I had mostly BLK and they let me withdraw that in the dying days though it was all the wrong price

Thunderjet proved that Paul Vernon sent coins obtained from Cryptsy user accounts to Coinbase and sold them there. Bitcoinist wrote a story about how his findings are being used to sue Coinbase.
 

Coinbase Nightmare Continues With New $8m Cryptsy Lawsuit
http://bitcoinist.com/coinbase-new-8m-cryptsy-lawsuit/

News up

They finally pay attention to mine findings about how Vernon used Coinbase to sell BTCs directly sent from Cryptsy and from his personal wallet(also filled with BTCs obtained from user accounts on Cryptsy)

Bitcoin.com also wrote a story about how the class action lawsuit against cryptsy is now targeting Coinbase for allowing Paul Vernon to sell all those Bitcoins without doing its fiduciary duties.

https://news.bitcoin.com/class-action-cryptsy-coinbase/

Class Action Now Targets Coinbase

The class action lawsuit  in the United States District Court for the Southern District of Florida (Case No. 9:16-cv-81992) seeks indemnification for all Cryptsy account owners who deposited funds with the exchange, only to lose them to Mr. Vernon’s liquidation of said funds through Coinbase. These users then lost access to their accounts and funds between May 22, 2014 and the present.

The lawsuit alleges Coinbase aided and abetted money launder and unjust enrichment by breaching its fiduciary duties.

The Receiver/Corporate Monitor the Court appointed to oversee Cryptsy’s assets after Mr. Vernon’s disappearance to China, James D Sallah, Esq., was assigned the responsibility of protecting and retrieving assets belonging to Cryptsy or its customers. Mr. Sallah has now joined the lawsuit, according to the law group’s press release.

[sirazimuth]

crickets....sound of pin dropping....etc....

[Gleb Gamow]

crickets....sound of pin dropping....etc....

Or the sound of Qtum releasing tx IDs as promised prior to their ICO depicting the $15M+ endowment to their nonprofit chartered in Singapore.

[Hippie Tech]

crickets....sound of pin dropping....etc....

Or the sound of Qtum releasing tx IDs as promised prior to their ICO depicting the $15M+ endowment to their nonprofit chartered in Singapore.

OR.. the sound of the cryptsy assholes and their moles helping them get away with fucking the crypto community.

[Spoetnik]

crickets....sound of pin dropping....etc....

Or the sound of Qtum releasing tx IDs as promised prior to their ICO depicting the $15M+ endowment to their nonprofit chartered in Singapore.

OR.. the sound of the cryptsy assholes and their moles helping them get away with fucking the crypto community.

BUSTED !

[RoomBot]

FTFY   

[Zoel]

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[RoomBot]

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D@mn that's annoying!  Ha Ha

Check out the GAWMiners Scam Thread.

Nearly 2400 pages.

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[Zoel]

463 Pages ~

D@mn that's annoying!  Ha Ha

Check out the GAWMiners Scam Thread.

Nearly 2400 pages.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857670.47740

It's sucks one... Josh around? xD

[Gleb Gamow]

463 Pages ~

D@mn that's annoying!  Ha Ha

Check out the GAWMiners Scam Thread.

Nearly 2400 pages.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857670.47740

It's sucks one... Josh around? xD

I see you didn't see what you did there - an Fde (Freudian double entendre: "Oops! Is that what I meant?")

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[RoomBot]

463 Pages ~

D@mn that's annoying!  Ha Ha

Check out the GAWMiners Scam Thread.

Nearly 2400 pages.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857670.47740

It's sucks one... Josh around? xD

YUP!!  He's here.  HI SCUMBAG!

Every time someone posts a pic of his wife's fake boobs, he complains to imgur & they take 'em down, LOL!

It's their fault for sending them to each other via email.  
Stupid. Illegal. Unethical. So Garza.

[fakecryptsynagger]

Ripple 0.0000o457 to 0.000026  happy Vern bank cryptsy

[Spoetnik]

The summary of the story and with other "scams" is..
They are all still here doin' crypto and got away with the money.

Free market guys.

Free to rip people off and walk away laughing then do it again.

THAT right there is what we should be taking away from this.
Pricks like Mark or Vern get to walk with MILLIONS while a few losers scrounge for chump change.

I don't know if regulation is really the ultimate answer but if anything we all should collectively be holding their feet to the fire.
They operate services etc with no transparency or accountability.
..because we let them !

It's as simple as that.

Why did Cryptsy say they needed obscurity in how they operate ?
The said for security reasons on chat many times.
LOL.

A few of these other ones are primed to go full Cryptsy / GOX anytime too.
Problem is they ALL operate the same way.. so they are ticking time bombs.
What separates any of them ?
Cheerleaders saying "John Smith" or "Bill" or "Jim" is legit and don't FUD Troll..

If you stupid investards will let me hold 10 million of your money i will for sure steal it.
Why not ? You kidiots let me.
Your the ones who do not *require* accountability so hey.. tough luck pricks.. fuck you.
Besides there is no laws either so hey fuck you assholes.

First thing i'd do is put 1 dollar in your hand so i can take it all later.
I would bask in idealism with beautiful crypto ideology then when it goes to shit and i see my CRYPTO COMPANY BUSINESS is tanking in value / revenues i will of course then start to ponder GOX'ing you all.
Get it ?
They don't all start as the bad guy.
But they run shitty sleazy services for vast monumental amounts of corporate profit.
So when their mansions cat beds and diamond rings and fur coats money starts to dry up guess who picks up the slack ?

[mullick]

so is mullick gone now? he offered to answer questions but tesponded to me once then left whats the go?

so was mullicks attempt here just a post to show he was helpful appearance wise for himself?

horus is boring now. dont take it the wrong way i dont want to target them ive just exhausted questions i had for horus. i dont like horus's ignorance of the issues at the time and how he held on knowing he should of exited but thats a dead horse now. he knows what others think, hes admitted he was dumb its in the open. im after new info and mullick is the wallet guy. he actually has info and i believe a lot is still not being told.

dcgirl is guilty of holding info too. i have pms from her saying theres other unnamed people that deserve ousting and i asked her to list those names in this thread. she said she might then disappeared.

mullick needs to address all questions like horus did. if he cant answer a question he should state i cant answer that question.

I was contacted to do an official interview shortly after my last post. Figured the authorities should know any info I have before the public. I honestly havent even looked at the forums since.

They still haven't gotten back to me on a date for the interview so I'm just waiting

As far as people who needed ousting im not sure what DCGirl is on about. She came in at the tail end of things and knows very little about how things went down. Perhaps she is referring to Logan? Cant argue there. If the initial hack came from inside of the company there is no doubt in my mind it was him. I still feel it was an outside attack. Paul's horrendous security practices just let them walk on in. I tried to fix those but he was unwilling to until after. I had only been in that position for two months.

@o0o0
Fuck yeah man.. my sentiment exactly put far more eloquently and to the point

@Mullick we really do need more.. Don't pull a BitJohn and NDA us with most of it then hide LOL

And..
@Mullick are you still "in" crypto ?
Involved in any projects or trading / holding any coins ?

How about comments on JSHock showing up on Social Media long after Cryptsy closed flogging RateCoin for Leroy Fodor ?
No NDA saying you can't comment on that buddy boy
I mean fuck any of those guys could respond to that... but they don't.

They ALL say a lot of shit then go quiet.
Who wants to bet they are ALL still 100% active in crypto ?
With a slew of new accounts LOL

I am no longer in crypto. I tired to make a business out of importing and reselling Bitmain products but they became out of stock too frequently and it seemed like you needed an in with someone to get a good price. I ran out of money before I could find one. I did a few consulting jobs on larger farms in hopes of getting some referrals but nothing ever came of it.

I hold less than one Bitcoin now. I had a decent stash when I started working at cryptsy and working there allowed me to keep them buried for a while. I burned through that pretty quickly without an income.

No clue what jshock is up to. Havent talked to him for probably a year.

I created one new account "HashingSupply" or something for my business but never did anything with it. Haven't been on the forums in months it feels like.

I probably wont check back very frequently. Being out of the crypto currency game my life has been much less chaotic. When I graduate ill be looking for a career elsewhere. For now im just paying the bills any way I can.  A pm reaches me more efficiently but if people start spamming that Ill just ignore it