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It was very enjoyable to watch the fight between Doncic and Jokic. It was very difficult to know who would win the game until the last seconds and Dallas managed to win the game by 1 point at the end. We can say that the star of the match was Tim Hardaway, the points he scored were very important. The fact that all the winning teams scored 116 points in the last matches is also an interesting statistic ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I was screaming my lungs on that game. But the mojo of Jokic was not at the best. There are some good assists but that is not what I am used at. 19 points 8 rebounds, and 8 assists. Luka had a better game that night with a triple double. We all see Davis' past performances, he really lifting the Lakers not just with his offense but his presence inside gives them a good interior defender and rebounder.
Without Davis, the chance of winning is slim. LeBron is no longer the same type of star player who can really dominate. He was past on his prime, he can help but in terms of carrying the whole loads,
it will be tough now for him to takeover and win against those teams who are composed of complete packages.
This is the sad truth and I think the Lakers knows this. If they want to win badly on their next games without AD they may want their skills up by one more notch. Lesser turnovers, perfection in every play written by their coach, avoiding selfish desires whenever they make runs, just be disciplined in working two points instead of forcing a three.
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December 08, 2022, 02:24:44 PM |
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Yes, another star or core player that is versatile enough to know which area needed more focus to help the team achieve a victory in almost every game and can match Luka's energy so that he end up carrying the team especially when it comes to intense games. Just like Giannis who have Middleton and Curry who have Thompson. Honestly, that's what they've been lacking and if they can fill up that spot, I bet they can reach farther than what they reached last season. Luka is still very young and has not yet reached his full potential. There is time for the Mavs to surround him with the supporting cast that he needs to push the team to a championship. Dirk took almost all his career before he became a champion, and it is worth the wait. Luka hopefully will not wait that long before the Mavs figure out the team they need to win. They should have learned now how to support their stars. They at least have 5 years to work it out with Doncic. It is either they develop their young, new recruit or acquire through trades, but they should not waste the opportunity they have with Luka. What a big loss it could be if the Mavs will end up losing Luka in the future. Although it is hard to imagine knowing Mark Cuban is not just a team owner but a huge NBA fan and it is also early to speculate. There was a time when Mavs brought in Kristaps Porzingis. It didn't work and the guy is too injury-prone. For now, the Mavs is pretty sure watching for their next potential target. I also believe that the Mavs can do better if Luka has reliable teammates he can lean on if he is having a bad night.
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December 08, 2022, 03:21:10 PM |
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Yes, another star or core player that is versatile enough to know which area needed more focus to help the team achieve a victory in almost every game and can match Luka's energy so that he end up carrying the team especially when it comes to intense games. Just like Giannis who have Middleton and Curry who have Thompson. Honestly, that's what they've been lacking and if they can fill up that spot, I bet they can reach farther than what they reached last season. Luka is still very young and has not yet reached his full potential. There is time for the Mavs to surround him with the supporting cast that he needs to push the team to a championship. Dirk took almost all his career before he became a champion, and it is worth the wait. Luka hopefully will not wait that long before the Mavs figure out the team they need to win. They should have learned now how to support their stars. They at least have 5 years to work it out with Doncic. It is either they develop their young, new recruit or acquire through trades, but they should not waste the opportunity they have with Luka. What a big loss it could be if the Mavs will end up losing Luka in the future. Although it is hard to imagine knowing Mark Cuban is not just a team owner but a huge NBA fan and it is also early to speculate. There was a time when Mavs brought in Kristaps Porzingis. It didn't work and the guy is too injury-prone. For now, the Mavs is pretty sure watching for their next potential target. I also believe that the Mavs can do better if Luka has reliable teammates he can lean on if he is having a bad night. Yes, someone that he can depend when he had an off-night, it's understandable that even you are the best player there's some night that you are not performing that well, and Luka needs someone who can help him. Additional star who can work side by side with Luka and help him in developing the entire core, Mark Cuban needs to bring him additional teammates who can add up to spice the whole Mavs and bring them back to a title competition. No offense to the current lineup, but Mavs needs additional star/s.
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Luka has nothing to prove just to get the attention because he is already a star player and the best candidate for MVP this season. As an individual player, Luka is at the top 3, but he needs to win a championship first in order to be lined with the greats in NBA.
I see Luka is making a great adjustment, his teammates are getting better now and that resulted in a better team.
Luka this game against the Nuggets does not score so high, but look at the other factors, he still tallies a very impressive triple double. (10 rebounds, 12 assists, and 22 points)
We can really never tell what he is thinking, and I know he is trying his hard to really give way to his team, and as he is not really waiting for his teammates to develop their skills in the team, but he is just doing what he can now, and It is up to them to really improve and know their worth inside the team, I really don't want to judge Luka Doncic, he is one of the best players there is in the NBA, and pretty much remarkable at a young age, he got great timing, ball handling, shooting and even getting fouls for the other team, pretty much Luka Doncic do it best, Clarkson is ready to box with Kuminga. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F6KCfloa.png&t=665&c=0HUU0Si82zidYg) Kuminga has all the reasons to be mad, but I don't know about Clarkson. He is frustrated because of the blocked shot, that's all the reason he has. Above-the-neck foul, "unnecessary excessive contact" which means Flagrant foul 2. He was ejected because of that. Technical foul was called on Kuminga and Beasley. Despite that, Utah Jazz still got the win because of the errors made by the Warriors and missed freethrows in the last seconds of the game. Pretty sure Jordan Clarkson is pure blood Pinoy on getting a rage quit moment and his inner Pinoy side is kicking in, I really love JC but pretty basketball will surely get you heavy contact with one another there is nothing to get mad about a heated game can surely cause something like that and Kuminga is not really intentional with that Jordan Clarkson should have just ignored it, but still love for both players it was really a heated game, and everyone really wants to win so badly, And even though the Warriors lost it was a close game both teams is not in 100% form because Markkanen and Sexton were not playing for the Jazz while Wiggins, Wiggins and Curry was not on the Warriors pretty much the Warriors 2nd unit is pretty much doing great,
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Money is on the line for the Raptors tonight as it's said that Lebron and AD aren't going to play due to their own issues.
AD has an illness while Lebron has got an injury. Well, this is a big advantage for the Raptors but we'll see if the bench players are going to manage a win against them.
I decided to skip that game especially when I hear that even LeBron James won't be around for the Lakers too, haven't gave much expectation to the remaining roster even though I know that Westbrook could explode anytime mainly in this instance that AD and Lebron wasn't around and given that Walker IV and Schroder can somehow balance things up. Well, this goes to show that without their 2 stars, the Lakers will really crumble and would be tanking again.
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December 08, 2022, 06:55:48 PM |
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The performance Nets have been showing in the Eastern Conference has been pretty impressive so far. I know that they lost nearly the half of their games but they are still at the fourth position in the standings. Especially their recent form is impressive. Irving and Durant's staying for at least one more season has helped them as well of course.
These stars are still very important for them to be more productive in scoring points. However this performance might still cause them some trouble after the end of the regular season. They need to get as many wins as possible to keep their mental condition high which would prepare them for the playoffs better.
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December 08, 2022, 08:33:22 PM |
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Still a shock to me that we are seeing Utah playing the way they can. I honestly expected them to be the type of team that would start 2-20 and then finish the season with like 20-62 type of results, or 24-58 whatever, like not more than 30 wins at all. By the looks of it they are on the path to do that. Is this good? Or is this actually bad for them?
We cannot know because we think it is possible that they should be losing a lot more and that would be better for them because of draft picks. If they keep winning, they won't have a high draft pick chance and that is not actually that great, it was not really possible for them to get better in the long run this way.
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December 08, 2022, 08:40:29 PM |
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Still a shock to me that we are seeing Utah playing the way they can. I honestly expected them to be the type of team that would start 2-20 and then finish the season with like 20-62 type of results, or 24-58 whatever, like not more than 30 wins at all. By the looks of it they are on the path to do that. Is this good? Or is this actually bad for them?
We cannot know because we think it is possible that they should be losing a lot more and that would be better for them because of draft picks. If they keep winning, they won't have a high draft pick chance and that is not actually that great, it was not really possible for them to get better in the long run this way.
Obviously this is good news and we might say that the trade they made was worth it. Because when we thought that they are going to tank, the team responded with a good run and one of the biggest surprised this season. But then again they have history of choking in the playoff so we will see if the new team is not just a fluke. They need to start proving themselves in the playoff because that's where teams are tested. They just have to keep the fire burning inside of them and be motivated to prove everyone is wrong.
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December 08, 2022, 08:51:25 PM |
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Still a shock to me that we are seeing Utah playing the way they can. I honestly expected them to be the type of team that would start 2-20 and then finish the season with like 20-62 type of results, or 24-58 whatever, like not more than 30 wins at all. By the looks of it they are on the path to do that. Is this good? Or is this actually bad for them?
Obviously this is good for the Jazz at this point, they didn't tank and winning games and the numbers, we all thought that they will not make it because they overhaul their roster, but it's the opposite. We cannot know because we think it is possible that they should be losing a lot more and that would be better for them because of draft picks. If they keep winning, they won't have a high draft pick chance and that is not actually that great, it was not really possible for them to get better in the long run this way.
Well if they can do it this early then possible that they can do it in the long run leading to the playoff. Draft is hard to look at though, it's a gamble for them and for any other teams. I mean there are number 1 who went bust and then second round picks that really made it to the NBA. So it's better to have a team like what we are seeing instead of hoping for a good pick,
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December 08, 2022, 08:55:56 PM |
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Still a shock to me that we are seeing Utah playing the way they can. I honestly expected them to be the type of team that would start 2-20 and then finish the season with like 20-62 type of results, or 24-58 whatever, like not more than 30 wins at all. By the looks of it they are on the path to do that. Is this good? Or is this actually bad for them?
Obviously this is good for the Jazz at this point, they didn't tank and winning games and the numbers, we all thought that they will not make it because they overhaul their roster, but it's the opposite. I think of it as something not that good at all. When they've been playing well at the beginning and then get to have some curb in the midst of it. Anyway, they are still playing well and what's not good is for the teams that are at the bottom, they'll surely be removed when the playoffs will come. What was that round again like the wild card before the playoffs? IIRC, there's that type of round and it's before the actual elimination of the teams, I've forgotten what it's called with the format.
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December 08, 2022, 09:00:51 PM |
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Still a shock to me that we are seeing Utah playing the way they can. I honestly expected them to be the type of team that would start 2-20 and then finish the season with like 20-62 type of results, or 24-58 whatever, like not more than 30 wins at all. By the looks of it they are on the path to do that. Is this good? Or is this actually bad for them?
Obviously this is good for the Jazz at this point, they didn't tank and winning games and the numbers, we all thought that they will not make it because they overhaul their roster, but it's the opposite. I think of it as something not that good at all. When they've been playing well at the beginning and then get to have some curb in the midst of it. Anyway, they are still playing well and what's not good is for the teams that are at the bottom, they'll surely be removed when the playoffs will come. What was that round again like the wild card before the playoffs? IIRC, there's that type of round and it's before the actual elimination of the teams, I've forgotten what it's called with the format. It's a problem a lot of teams sit with. Just good enough or mediocre enough to land the 7 or 8 slot in the playoffs but not good enough to win. Downside is never being able to land a top tier prospect always drafting 10-20. Utah is a tough place yo land a Marque star so they rely on drafting well. I hate tanking but I think that is their plan. They can't win long term with this team they have.
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December 08, 2022, 09:08:36 PM |
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I've been hearing the prospect about this kid, Wenbanyama. Where he's possibly going to be when he's going to enter the NBA? There's the picking/draft round but there's also the other ways of acquiring him by most teams through possible exclusive contract or buying his contract to the current league he's in. Is he really that like a future or just an overhyped? I don't wish him to end up but I don't also want people to expect a lot just as mostly thought of Oden.
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December 08, 2022, 10:00:06 PM |
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Still a shock to me that we are seeing Utah playing the way they can. I honestly expected them to be the type of team that would start 2-20 and then finish the season with like 20-62 type of results, or 24-58 whatever, like not more than 30 wins at all. By the looks of it they are on the path to do that. Is this good? Or is this actually bad for them?
We cannot know because we think it is possible that they should be losing a lot more and that would be better for them because of draft picks. If they keep winning, they won't have a high draft pick chance and that is not actually that great, it was not really possible for them to get better in the long run this way.
Do not worry about draft picks for UTAH. They acquired a lot of draft picks by trading Gobert and Mitchell. That is one of the best moves Utah has done in trading their stars. I do not think they are contending for the #1 draft pick this 2023 because they are performing really well. Their GM is very intelligent, and I am sure they will put their 3 first-round picks for 2023 to good use. Forcing your team to lose more just to compete for Victor Wembanyama is foolish. They are performing very well so just let them be. It is good foundation for future success. Imagine a rebuilding team able to enter the playoffs. Even spurs with Popovich is not expecting too much right now. Utah winning right now is a good sign of success. I think of it as something not that good at all. When they've been playing well at the beginning and then get to have some curb in the midst of it. Anyway, they are still playing well and what's not good is for the teams that are at the bottom, they'll surely be removed when the playoffs will come. What was that round again like the wild card before the playoffs? IIRC, there's that type of round and it's before the actual elimination of the teams, I've forgotten what it's called with the format.
They are not at the bottom though. They are currently sitting at #6 and were in the top 1 before they suffer some injuries. I do not think that is a team that will lose in the first round if all the pieces are healthy. I do not expect them to go all the way to the WCF or NBA Finals because, after all, they are rebuilding. But getting to the playoffs is a good experience for their young players. It is a good foundation for future endeavours and when their team is complete, it will serve them well. I've been hearing the prospect about this kid, Wenbanyama. Where he's possibly going to be when he's going to enter the NBA? There's the picking/draft round but there's also the other ways of acquiring him by most teams through possible exclusive contract or buying his contract to the current league he's in. Is he really that like a future or just an overhyped? I don't wish him to end up but I don't also want people to expect a lot just as mostly thought of Oden.
We will see that in the future when he is already playing. NBA is tough, so even if you are good in high school or college, it will still be very hard to maintain the same performance in NBA. It will depend on the team that will acquire him, and how they will develop him and prepare him for NBA. He is tall and has a good handle, but he is very thin right now. If he competes as a center in today's NBA, he will survive shooting outside but will be murdered inside the paint when defending the likes of Giannis or Embiid. I hope the Spurs get him because we know that they develop their young players really well. If the Lakers gets him, his talent will be wasted because the Lakers have a very poor performance in developing players or waiting long enough for a player to reach his potential.
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December 08, 2022, 10:09:33 PM |
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I've been hearing the prospect about this kid, Wenbanyama. Where he's possibly going to be when he's going to enter the NBA? There's the picking/draft round but there's also the other ways of acquiring him by most teams through possible exclusive contract or buying his contract to the current league he's in. Is he really that like a future or just an overhyped? I don't wish him to end up but I don't also want people to expect a lot just as mostly thought of Oden.
People looking at him as perfect proto type player and looking and his highlight we can really say he is so good many NBA player agree that he's generational one. Hopefully he will not get stab hard by injury before he land on NBA because if he get serious one maybe what you thought about being another Greg Oden might be happen.
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December 08, 2022, 10:25:40 PM |
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It's a problem a lot of teams sit with. Just good enough or mediocre enough to land the 7 or 8 slot in the playoffs but not good enough to win. Downside is never being able to land a top tier prospect always drafting 10-20. Utah is a tough place yo land a Marque star so they rely on drafting well. I hate tanking but I think that is their plan. They can't win long term with this team they have.
Good observation for Utah and the same goes for the other teams, that's how really might it is. Because we've been seeing those teams that aren't expected to be at the top currently yet they're making it. And I guess the hype and expectation for Zion are making the team very well and accurate from the thoughts of most fans. They are not at the bottom though. They are currently sitting at #6 and were in the top 1 before they suffer some injuries. I do not think that is a team that will lose in the first round if all the pieces are healthy. I do not expect them to go all the way to the WCF or NBA Finals because, after all, they are rebuilding. But getting to the playoffs is a good experience for their young players. It is a good foundation for future endeavours and when their team is complete, it will serve them well. because the Lakers have a very poor performance in developing players or waiting long enough for a player to reach his potential.
Well, they've snatched the game against GSW and they did well even if within the last 20 seconds, Clarkson was ejected. For the past seasons, they've always been that good but can't make it to the finals so I think that's what usually it is.
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December 08, 2022, 10:45:31 PM |
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The performance Nets have been showing in the Eastern Conference has been pretty impressive so far. I know that they lost nearly the half of their games but they are still at the fourth position in the standings. Especially their recent form is impressive. Irving and Durant's staying for at least one more season has helped them as well of course.
These stars are still very important for them to be more productive in scoring points. However this performance might still cause them some trouble after the end of the regular season. They need to get as many wins as possible to keep their mental condition high which would prepare them for the playoffs better.
I realized this too... I believe day after day they are improving... It's not something very significant, but it demonstrates they are there and they could be in the playoffs soon. I also believe... Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant have a great job ahead of them.
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December 09, 2022, 12:58:16 AM |
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Pretty sure Jordan Clarkson is pure blood Pinoy on getting a rage quit moment and his inner Pinoy side is kicking in, I really love JC but pretty basketball will surely get you heavy contact with one another there is nothing to get mad about a heated game can surely cause something like that and Kuminga is not really intentional with that Jordan Clarkson should have just ignored it, but still love for both players it was really a heated game, and everyone really wants to win so badly,
The inner Manny Pacquiao came out. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Well, that's the thing, it's a contact sport and Kuminga just acted that way because he felt like the contact was too much. Frustration really does things and sometimes it gets out of hand. I remember Jokic doing a clothesline to Cameron Payne due to frustration too as they were losing against the Suns in the playoffs, it's actually the refs that should be blamed but he took it out to another player which is wrong. Same result, flagrant 2. I realized this too... I believe day after day they are improving... It's not something very significant, but it demonstrates they are there and they could be in the playoffs soon. I also believe... Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant have a great job ahead of them.
Just to add to the other reason for their recent wins, their head coach Jacque Vaughn. It looks like he had good control over KD and Kyrie or he is doing the right player rotation. Yes, I do agree they are on the right track now for a possible playoff entry.
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December 09, 2022, 01:20:45 AM |
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Well, that's the thing, it's a contact sport and Kuminga just acted that way because he felt like the contact was too much. Frustration really does things and sometimes it gets out of hand.
It was a good foul made by Jordan Clarkson and the refs just romanticized it and it's all good not until Kuminga probably said something that made JC in total rage. I'm not sure what he said but it seems that those words flamed JC and made him react that way, maybe as an insult or what. Anyway, it's great revenge being done by the whole Jazz against Kuminga. They've won in the last few seconds of the game, JC's smiling for sure in the locker.
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December 09, 2022, 01:58:20 AM |
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The performance Nets have been showing in the Eastern Conference has been pretty impressive so far. I know that they lost nearly the half of their games but they are still at the fourth position in the standings. Especially their recent form is impressive. Irving and Durant's staying for at least one more season has helped them as well of course.
These stars are still very important for them to be more productive in scoring points. However this performance might still cause them some trouble after the end of the regular season. They need to get as many wins as possible to keep their mental condition high which would prepare them for the playoffs better.
The standings of the teams in the Eastern Conference weren't as close to that in the Western Conference and that explains why the Nets are in the 4th seed despite them only 2 games above 500. The top seeded Celtics are 2 games above the Bucks which is currently at 2nd place followed by the Cavaliers which is 4.5 games below the top seed and the Nets are now 7 games behind the top seed. It isn't as close as in the West where the 8th seeded Blazers are only 3 games behind the top seeded Pelicans. Overall, the Nets are impressive on their last 10 games winning 7 of it. Good to see them having problems at the start of the season to now adjusting and now at the top. Feel sorry for the Spurs though losing 11 straight games and winning only 3 of their last 20 games. I wonder what Coach Pop is feeling with his team right now.
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December 09, 2022, 02:03:00 AM |
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Feel sorry for the Spurs though losing 11 straight games and winning only 3 of their last 20 games. I wonder what Coach Pop is feeling with his team right now.
This is probably his worst season in the NBA, I think this would already call for retirement, or maybe he wants to have at least one shot before making a decision to retire. The Spurs are now in the tank stage, just like the Lakers before, but since they are not a big market, I don't think they'll be able to sign a Lebron liked player.
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