Health and Religion

[jonnybravo0411]

I had an IQ of 160 once upon a time. It's probably about 100 less now. I regard the religious as mentally ill. I have zero desire to procreate and think the world's a fuckhole. Hey, I guess you're right.

Religion and IQ. I see these two are not related to each other. You have a high IQ and you do not need to follow a religion. And religion does not mean IQ is low. It's ridiculous!

I need to align the religion and IQ of a person. The fact is that since ancient times, the intellect has those people who are very good at reasoning on different topics. In ancient times, philosophers were very intelligent people, and they also treated differently. As for today's man, it is measured in a completely different way, not as it happened to be the last centuries.

[strontiumsane]

Never seen this table before and the relation with religion. It's interesting, but funny at the same time, i don't trust it at all.

[CoinCube]

Never seen this table before and the relation with religion. It's interesting, but funny at the same time, i don't trust it at all.

It is always good to be skeptical and look at presented data for flaws and biases. I drew the tables in the opening post from three sources. These were:
1) Gallup.com
2) Pewresearch.org
3) Jewishpolicycenter.org

Here are links to articles that discuss each table in depth.

In U.S., Very Religious Have Higher Wellbeing Across All Faiths
http://www.gallup.com/poll/152732/religious-higher-wellbeing-across-faiths.aspx

Mormons more likely to marry, have more children than other U.S. religious groups
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/05/22/mormons-more-likely-to-marry-have-more-children-than-other-u-s-religious-groups/

Israel’s Demographic Miracle
https://www.jewishpolicycenter.org/2013/02/28/israel-demographic-miracle/

[Bodywowoya]

Never seen this table before and the relation with religion. It's interesting, but funny at the same time, i don't trust it at all.

It is always good to be skeptical and look at presented data for flaws and biases. I drew the tables in the opening post from three sources. These were:
1) Gallup.com
2) Pewresearch.org
3) Jewishpolicycenter.org

Here are links to articles that discuss each table in depth.

In U.S., Very Religious Have Higher Wellbeing Across All Faiths
http://www.gallup.com/poll/152732/religious-higher-wellbeing-across-faiths.aspx

Mormons more likely to marry, have more children than other U.S. religious groups
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/05/22/mormons-more-likely-to-marry-have-more-children-than-other-u-s-religious-groups/

Israel’s Demographic Miracle
https://www.jewishpolicycenter.org/2013/02/28/israel-demographic-miracle/

I'm curious what conclusions people make when looking through these statistics and tables? The reality is that the gallery has a very beneficial effect on a person and on his well-being. Of course I understand that you do not need to be a fanatic in a particular religion, but in general I see a very good balance of good and evil in this matter.

[CoinCube]

Religious Coping and Glycemic Control in Couples with Type 2 Diabetes

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jmft.12241/abstract

Abstract

This study examines the role of religious coping in couples’ diabetes management processes. Eighty-seven couples where one spouse had type 2 diabetes were surveyed. The relationships between religious coping (positive and negative), shared glycemic control activities (e.g., planning a healthy diet), and glycemic control were examined using repeated measures ANOVA and SEM. Findings show spousal engagement in shared activities is significantly associated with glycemic control. Furthermore, the use of negative religious coping by the diabetic spouse, and positive religious coping by the nondiabetic spouse, related to lower levels and higher levels of shared glycemic control activities, respectively. Religious coping and shared glycemic control activities appear integral to couples managing type 2 diabetes and, may serve as useful points of intervention.

[CoinCube]

Government Fails Jewish School Over Lack of ‘Correct’ LGBT Teaching
http://www.breitbart.com/jerusalem/2017/06/27/government-fails-jewish-school-over-lack-of-correct-lgbt-teaching/

A London Jewish school has been failed three times by government inspectors because it fell short of requirements set out in the Equalities Act to teach LGBT principles in general and homosexuality/gender reassignment issues in particular.

The Vizhnitz girls’ school in north London caters to 212 students and has been visited by the UK’s Office for Standards in Education, Children’s Services and Skills (Ofsted) to determine if it taught LGBT issues such as “sexual orientation. ” Because it had not, it was gauged to have declined giving its pupils who are aged up to eight years old, a “full understanding of fundamental British values” and therefore the school is in breach of equality laws, according to the Daily Telegraph.

“This restricts pupils’ spiritual, moral, social and cultural development and does not promote equality of opportunity in ways that take account of differing lifestyles,” the Ofsted inspectors reported, pointing out that the students are being “shielded from learning about certain differences between people, such as sexual orientation.” As a result, “pupils have a limited understanding of the different lifestyles and partnerships that individuals may choose in present-day society.”

At the same time, the inspectors also noted that “the school’s culture is, however, clearly focused on teaching pupils to respect everybody, regardless of beliefs and lifestyle.”

Schools that do not come up to Ofsted’s requirements must improve or face closure.

David Kurten AM, the UKIP Education spokesman, said  the state should not be forcing its own ideology on children at the very youngest ages.

“Primary school children are far too young to be exposed to ideas such as the details of non-reproductive sexual acts and gender fluidity. Children deserve a childhood and the guise of ‘inclusion’ and ‘anti-bullying’ is being used to expose them to damaging ideas far too early, and to undermine and close down faith schools in favour of secularism.

“Yet secularism is not a neutral blank canvas of a worldview. Humanist and secularist groups have actively campaigned against faith schools for over a century. 99% of faith schools are Christian schools, and have done an excellent job of education children and young people in the UK since Augustine’s time in the 6th Century.

“Ofsted is now part of the red blob which is pushing cultural Marxism.”

Six other religious schools in the UK have also failed the same inspections in recent weeks.

[ananas99]

Today, more and more often there are talks that people should be accompanied by science and have some kind of proof of each other. But if you remember what kind of danzig there was in ancient times, when the Inquisition of all people who were more or less intelligent or engaged in some science, then one can definitely answer that they beat and science has nothing in common.

[CoinCube]

Defending the Faith: Is religion good for your health?
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865681606/Is-religion-good-for-your-health.html

Until his retirement, Andrew Sims, former president of the United Kingdom’s Royal College of Psychiatrists, was professor of psychiatry at the University of Leeds. Having also served as founding editor of “Advances in Psychiatric Treatment” (1993-2003) and of “Developing Mental Health” (2002-2005), he knows something about psychiatry and mental health.

He is also a committed Christian, and his book “Is Faith Delusion? Why Religion is Good for Your Health” (Continuum, 2009) brings those two facets of his life together to confront a common prejudice.

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Indeed, one of the major themes of his book is that “religious belief tends to be associated with better health, both physical and mental.”

“The advantageous effect of religious belief and spirituality on mental and physical health is one of the best-kept secrets in psychiatry, and medicine generally," he writes. "If the findings of the huge volume of research on this topic had gone in the opposite direction and it had been found that religion damages your mental health, it would have been front-page news in every newspaper in the land!”

Moreover, Sims contends, “churches are almost the only element in society to have offered considerate, caring, long-lasting and self-sacrificing support to the mentally ill,” which is one of the reasons why “religious involvement results in a better outcome from a range of illnesses, both mental and physical.”

Generally too, he observes, “religion encourages a broadly healthy lifestyle and members of a church or other faith groups are more likely to co-operate with medical treatment.”

“There is no evidence to suggest that seeking religious affiliation for its potential health benefits alone would be advantageous,” he said.

Still, Sims summarizes, in the majority of scientific studies, religious involvement correlates with enhanced well-being, happiness and life-satisfaction; greater hope and optimism, even when facing serious diseases, such as breast cancer; a stronger sense of purpose and meaning in life; higher self-esteem; better responses to bereavement; greater social support; less loneliness; lower rates of depression and faster recovery from depression; reduced rates of suicide; decreased anxiety; better coping with stress; less psychosis and fewer psychotic tendencies; lower rates of alcohol and drug abuse; less delinquency and criminal activity; and greater marital stability and satisfaction. A strong faith and the positive relationships and thinking associated with church membership fortify the immune system, “thus reducing the risk of cancer, improving general health and protecting the cardiovascular system.”

“When looking at the overall effects of religious belief and practice on whole populations,” he writes, “there is substantial evidence that religion is highly beneficial for all areas of health, and especially mental health.”

Indeed, correlations between religious faith and improved well-being “typically equal or exceed correlations between well-being and other psychosocial variables, such as social support.” And, he adds, this substantial assertion is “comprehensively attested to by a large amount of evidence.”

“In one well-conducted study,” Sims reports, “almost 3,000 women who regularly attended church services were assessed for health status, social support and habits. When they were followed up 28 years later, their mortality over that period was found to be more than a third less than the general population.”

Furthermore, “An inverse relationship has been found between religious involvement and suicidal behaviour in 84 per cent of 68 studies. That is, those with religious belief and practice are less likely to kill themselves. This association is also found for attempted suicide; believers are less likely to take overdose or use other methods of self-harm.”

“The nagging question we are left with is, why is this important information” — “epidemiological medicine’s best-kept secret,” he calls it — “not better known?”

“It is a mystery why … government and other authorities are opposed to seeking help from religious organizations.” Also, “it is extraordinary and tragic that the findings of this large body of research … are not better known. If it were anything other than religious belief or spirituality resulting in such beneficial outcomes for health, the media would trumpet it and governments and health care organizations would be rushing to implement its practice.”

[Okurkabinladin]

UCLA study proves Mormons live longer.

Mormon men live 10 years longer than other U.S. white males.Mormon women live more than five years longer than other U.S. white females.Those are the among the results of a 25-year study into the health habits and the longevity of the Mormon lifestyle by non-Mormon UCLA professors James E. Enstrom and Lester Breslow, who summarized their research with the conclusion: "Several healthy characteristics of the Mormon lifestyle are associated with substantially reduced death rates and increased life expectancy."The study, conducted from 1980 to 2004, included information from questionnaire responses by more than 9,800 faithful Mormon couples and concluded that practicing Mormons in California had the lowest total death rates and the longest life expectancies ever documented in a well-defined U.S. cohort. The authors concluded the findings suggest a model for substantial disease prevention in the general.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705377709/UCLA-study-proves-Mormons-live-longer.html

[CoinCube]

A report from a women who made the unusual journey from secular radical feminism to Orthodox Judaism.

How Radical Feminism Turned Me Into an Orthodox Jew
http://www.chabad.org/theJewishWoman/article_cdo/aid/3715087/jewish/How-Radical-Feminism-Turned-Me-Into-an-Orthodox-Jew.htm

When certain guidelines about gender are accepted and valued by men and women due to their divine origin, these models can become a source of strength, power and inner calm. Although Radical Feminism (as do most forms of feminism) assumes that challenging traditional gender roles must be part of the liberation and equality of the genders, I had come to believe this is not necessarily so. My experience in a community where people tried to challenge those roles had left me feeling empty and frustrated.

[rjbtc2017]

Well, Health and Religion(itself) IS NOT Correlated to any form or any way
but rather than relating it to religion we must correlate Health to Faith (brain/believing power) since there are phenomenon like Placebo Effect.

[contactmi]

The Bible said that our body is the temple of the Holy Ghost, so taking care of our body...which incudes eating well to stay healthy is part of our service to God

[skinomanl]

Personally, I have nothing against religion, if it does not harm myself and other people. And health does not depend on religion, it depends on the way of life of a person.

[Okurkabinladin]

Well, Health and Religion(itself) IS NOT Correlated to any form or any way
but rather than relating it to religion we must correlate Health to Faith (brain/believing power) since there are phenomenon like Placebo Effect.

Yes and no.

If it works, it is not placebo effect anymore.

Also do read about very real health effects of the fact, that believers do reflect on teaching, that their body is temple of God 

Or are you going to argue, that smoking, drinking alcohol and injecting drugs into your veins has nothing to do with your health? Mainline religions scoffed on all of those way before modern medicine grew out of shadow of christian Europe.

[BADecker]

Well, Health and Religion(itself) IS NOT Correlated to any form or any way
but rather than relating it to religion we must correlate Health to Faith (brain/believing power) since there are phenomenon like Placebo Effect.

Yes and no.

If it works, it is not placebo effect anymore.

Also do read about very real health effects of the fact, that believers do reflect on teaching, that their body is temple of God 

Or are you going to argue, that smoking, drinking alcohol and injecting drugs into your veins has nothing to do with your health? Mainline religions scoffed on all of those way before modern medicine grew out of shadow of christian Europe.

If it works because of the chemical, and other, reactions of the medicine or whatever, then it is not placebo effect.

If it works because of the faith of the person being medicated without the help of the medicine, then it is placebo effect.

Both can be present at the same time. But faith is stronger. Why? Because all medicine that works does so by causing a faith reaction in someone. The faith isn't necessarily in the person being medicated. It might be the faith of family members, or the doctor.

[rjbtc2017]

Well, Health and Religion(itself) IS NOT Correlated to any form or any way
but rather than relating it to religion we must correlate Health to Faith (brain/believing power) since there are phenomenon like Placebo Effect.

Yes and no.

If it works, it is not placebo effect anymore.

Also do read about very real health effects of the fact, that believers do reflect on teaching, that their body is temple of God 

Or are you going to argue, that smoking, drinking alcohol and injecting drugs into your veins has nothing to do with your health? Mainline religions scoffed on all of those way before modern medicine grew out of shadow of christian Europe.

Many people specially here in my country have been healed because of Faith Healing process.

Yes that's true, it's not placebo effect, I shouldn't use that word.

[rijktyum]

Health depends on it heredity and immunity. From the way of life also depends. But the fact that it depends on religion, personally I have serious doubts

[BADecker]

Health depends on it heredity and immunity. From the way of life also depends. But the fact that it depends on religion, personally I have serious doubts

Do yu really believ that? It's an interesting religion you have there.

[bombard1]

Some native tribes believe that people who are yelling and are a schizophrenic might believe they are talking to spirits, of course that cannot be proven and most likely is not true.

[JefLiber]

It seems to me that religion and Science are two different concepts that can be together and never explain each other's facts to one another. Apparently in reality in ancient times there was a very strong rejection of religion from science, and just the opposite.