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This is what the truly religious people are doing... destroying themselves. People don't have to be religious to look at nature and see that God exists by understanding the complexity. People have to be religious to push the reality of God out of their mind and believe the religion atheism. When people push themselves into believing atheism, they are destroying themselves. How? They are pushing God out of their lives... God, the God of nature, the One who is maintaining the structure of nature... nature, which is keeping atheists alive. It would be nice to see the religious atheists jump out of their atheism religion into reality. But if they want, let them keep on in their religion, and destroy themselves.  Lookup equivocation fallacy. Loads of words in many languages fit equivocation. It's part of the reason why law stuff uses Latin. Latin, being a dead language, cannot be changed to have other meanings. Such is an attempt to get away from ambiguity. People are religious beings. Why? Because they don't really know any of the future at all. They know that even in little things, they have made mistakes about what is going to happen... like investors, all the time. And everybody knows that people who died in car accidents and airplane crashes would has stayed home if they had known what would happen to them if they traveled that day. Part of the reason why people have atheism as their religion is, they think that if there is a God, He is going to take their freedom away with His laws. They don't realize that God is giving them freedom with His laws, because the whole universe works according to laws... at every level. God knows the laws because He made them, but people don't. So, out of love He tells them, to keep them from harm. Why do you always want to focus on such a tiny meaning of a word? Is it that you truly want death? 
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The topic is nice but to avoid controversy I believe two topics that should not be discussed is politics and religion because every one have their own opinion.
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The topic is nice but to avoid controversy I believe two topics that should not be discussed is politics and religion because every one have their own opinion.
All you are doing is talking politically and/or religiously about discussing politics and religion.  
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Usually, I simple ignore all comments like yours, since they are irrelevant. But I'm going to open an exception.
According to your "loving" god, I won't be destroyed in hell rather I will "burn" there alive for all eternity (Matthew 25:41; Jude 1:7; Mark 9:43; of course, especially on this issue there are many different [/quote]
I’m not surprise you got such porous reply that’s made you reacts these way, you should have prepared yourself mentally for such arguments and by so doing you won’t be offended by one ones opinion. To me I would say you have done no harm or offense in telling us about your believe but don’t expect nothing less than criticism from certain people because like a always tell people two topics that shouldn’t be discussed is Politics and Religion because everyone have their own opinion.
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Usually, I simple ignore all comments like yours, since they are irrelevant. But I'm going to open an exception.
According to your "loving" god, I won't be destroyed in hell rather I will "burn" there alive for all eternity (Matthew 25:41; Jude 1:7; Mark 9:43; of course, especially on this issue there are many different
I’m not surprise you got such porous reply that’s made you reacts these way, you should have prepared yourself mentally for such arguments and by so doing you won’t be offended by one ones opinion. To me I would say you have done no harm or offense in telling us about your believe but don’t expect nothing less than criticism from certain people because like a always tell people two topics that shouldn’t be discussed is Politics and Religion because everyone have their own opinion.
I’m not sure where best these post should belong for more views
Anybody who makes it to Hell, it's because God gave them what they asked for. He gave his life through Jesus to keep people out of Hell. What more can He do, but grant them their wish? 
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The topic is nice but to avoid controversy I believe two topics that should not be discussed is politics and religion because every one have their own opinion.
Religion and politics go together. Why? Religion often drives people to have moral and virtuous lives. Don’t have to be religious to lead a moral life, but how did free countries like the US originate — judeo Christian values.
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^^^ But there was politics in all of it. I guess that means that politics is just another religion or part thereof. 
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Well, I believe we are all entitled to our own beliefs and judgements, I'm not a deeply religious person but then, here are the few things I believe in
* I believe every power or force has an Origin and that is the God with a capital 'G' * I believe in living life before life lives you! * I believe my conscience is the ultimate judge between good and evil * I believe no one is so right or so wrong, so good or do evil. Being put in the same shoes as the condemned fellow under the same pressure, you might just commit the same thing * I believe no one or race is superior to the other * I believe all that exists does so in a delicate balance * I believe we owe ourselves our well being and * I believe every knowledge or information we posses at our disposal is gotten form somewhere, someone and somehow which could always be questionable.
For these I say this to everyone, live life, let your conscience be the judge and do the most good you can do because, it takes you to make the earth habitable for you and your neighbor. Hola.
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^^^ This is extremely difficult stuff to think about. Why? We see only cause and effect operating in everything. But we, also, seem to have free will. Does this mean that our free will is controlled by cause and effect, so that it is not really free will at all? We know so little, because God says that we have free will, even though we don't really know where free will exists within us. 
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After all these advancement humans made in physics over the last 100 years, it seems very hard for me to believe in a higher power such as God. The universe is so large with millions of stars with empty planets. If there was really a God, why create all this without life on it? Would it be much easier to create different life on all planets?
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After all these advancement humans made in physics over the last 100 years, it seems very hard for me to believe in a higher power such as God. The universe is so large with millions of stars with empty planets. If there was really a God, why create all this without life on it? Would it be much easier to create different life on all planets?
The only virus that can be seen is a dead one... with an electron microscope... at least until 2011. Nobody has tracked a virus jumping from one person to another. The whole virus thing is full of assumptions that have been turned into a story that may or may not be true, but probably isn't. Yet the medical has said that the story is absolutely true, even though they know there are many holes in it. The Microsphere Nanoscope is showing us what the truth is. What is the truth? That the whole world of what we know about viruses is way more complex that we can imagine, and that viruses probably don't act as we have thought in the past. There is evidence that viruses are merely exosomes doing their standard job without enough immediate intelligence to understand that some people will be hurt by the job they are doing. If these are the kinds of advancements that you are talking about, where science plays games with us by assuming all kinds of things, you can have it. Scientists, when they are broached with the question of how much we know compared with how much is out there to find, still say that we are only scratching the surface. Somebody placed all that technology into nature. And when you consider how advanced natural technology is, the Maker of it must be extremely advanced. The term "God" is about all we can say about Him because of our ignorance. 
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When it comes to religion and politics I don’t really pay much attention. I consider religion and politics as topics that shouldn’t be discussed, it’s always cause controversy as everyone have their own opinion. It’s not offensive to tell us about your believe and to be honest I have learnt so much what you practice. I’m open for information and knowledge in all ramifications.
There have lots of criticism about these post but like I said I don’t find these offensive because it’s your believe. Wished I have some sMerit to give to these post because I’m very open to information and have grabbed a lot of real knowledge from these post about atheist.
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^^^ Atheism is a wonderful religion, just like the religion of non-religion. Both can make you feel so good, by taking the responsibility for acknowledging the scary things about your life off your shoulders. Just like the ostrich. 
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After all these advancements humans made in physics over the last 100 years, it seems very hard for me to believe in a higher power such as God. The universe is so large with millions of stars with empty planets. If there was really a God, why create all this without life on it? Would it be much easier to create different life on all planets?
Modern physics is not yet completely developed, scientists keep finding new things every day so we can't actually say we are a planet with living things, there are some proofs exists for the existence of life in the near galaxies but it is millions of light years far so we don't actually have any technology to reach out there and validate. But why we need to believe God created all these things? Because they are machines. Machines have makers. The maker of a machine as vast as the universe would have to be God. 
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When it comes to religion and politics I don’t really pay much attention. I consider religion and politics as topics that shouldn’t be discussed, it’s always cause controversy as everyone have their own opinion. It’s not offensive to tell us about your believe and to be honest I have learnt so much what you practice. I’m open for information and knowledge in all ramifications.
There have lots of criticism about these post but like I said I don’t find these offensive because it’s your believe. Wished I have some sMerit to give to these post because I’m very open to information and have grabbed a lot of real knowledge from these post about atheist.
In an open society we should be able to discuss politics and religion. But people need to be more open towards different opinion. If everybody would accept the fact that different people have different ideas and thoughts, than we wouldn't have so much violence in the world. A healthy discussion about religion should be based on facts and beliefs without any form of violence or repression. Especially the missuse of religion for crimes and wars shouldn't happen anymore in the 21th century.
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Atheist must deny basic math.
If every group of 3 contains 3 units, is a universal constant. If every creation has a creator, is a universal constant.
There must be a creator of time, the Creator.
I`m not saying there is a god, but evidence provided to me by looking at anything and seeing it has a creator, leaves me to believe there is a Creator.
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^^^ This is extremely difficult stuff to think about. Why? We see only cause and effect operating in everything. But we, also, seem to have free will. Does this mean that our free will is controlled by cause and effect, so that it is not really free will at all? We know so little, because God says that we have free will, even though we don't really know where free will exists within us.  Not God. People say a lot of things. No God has ever said anything. People who claim they hear God are actually hallucinating. You cannot even define God according to your dogma, God exists outside of spacetime and is therefore undefined unknown. Ask him to post here. LOL. Religious people are delusional. Some are mentally retarded and/or mentally ill. "God speaks through me, blah, blah...", "I feel him in my heart, blah, blah...", "He must exist because, just because...", "He must exist because the Bible is true", "The Bible is true because it says so in the Bible" etc. The believe in God has been an issue of controversy amongst many just as the series of comments that precedes this thread. Why should one be questioned on what he or she believes in? Just as you are answerable to your crimes in the law court, so do every entity on the phase of the earth. If you don't believe in God or god's and religion, you are as well a member of another unit of religion yourself and that is atheism. Why did you choose this path, it's because you had guts to question where the other religions say you should have faith. That's were most of the difference lies. Believe it or not, your continues fight over a thing simply means you believing in it but then, you tend to look for a way to prove to yourseylf that it's real and actually exists. I see comments on this thread and it often talks about the God with an upper case 'G' which we've been told that, it refers to the God of heaven. By simply respecting that fact, it's a sign that there is a recognition of a higher power and besides, as much as we love to question the existence of a God, we should never forget that there are lots of questions science is yet to answer like, the never conclusive evolution theory. I was taught that when a theory stands the test of time for at least a decade following scientific procedures, it becomes a fact but then, here is evolution theory, despite it's obedience to this procedure, it remains a theory! It is in eminent that, we can not always get the answers or result we seek hence, it's best you just go for what you believe in and give others the freewill to do the same. Mind you, what you believe in works for you.
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The believe in God has been an issue of controversy amongst many just as the series of comments that precedes this thread. Why should one be questioned on what he or she believes in? Just as you are answerable to your crimes in the law court, so do every entity on the phase of the earth. If you don't believe in God or god's and religion, you are as well a member of another unit of religion yourself and that is atheism. Why did you choose this path, it's because you had guts to question where the other religions say you should have faith. That's were most of the difference lies.
Believe it or not, your continues fight over a thing simply means you believing in it but then, you tend to look for a way to prove to yourseylf that it's real and actually exists. I see comments on this thread and it often talks about the God with an upper case 'G' which we've been told that, it refers to the God of heaven. By simply respecting that fact, it's a sign that there is a recognition of a higher power and besides, as much as we love to question the existence of a God, we should never forget that there are lots of questions science is yet to answer like, the never conclusive evolution theory.
I was taught that when a theory stands the test of time for at least a decade following scientific procedures, it becomes a fact but then, here is evolution theory, despite it's obedience to this procedure, it remains a theory! It is in eminent that, we can not always get the answers or result we seek hence, it's best you just go for what you believe in and give others the freewill to do the same. Mind you, what you believe in works for you.
You are uneducated. Evolution is an observable fact in all lifeforms. BTW, I am so passionately exposing the idiocracy of religions because religions continue to cause physical and emotional harm to millions of people. They oppose science because scientific education poses an existential threat to the idea of God. They are in a way of progress. Stop killing and/or discriminating against gays and women, stop saying that Earth is 10,000 years old, stop saying that God never sanctioned slavery, stop saying that God created human beings from dirt or rib bones, stop saying that our universe was designed or created in 6 days. Instead, read the scriptures, learn the nonsense contained in them, and become an enlightened man. Stop being a Bronze Age parrot. Ford and Chev evolved from the '30s to what they are today. Is that what you mean? All of evolution theory has this little thing in it called random mutations. Mutations seem to exist, but what does "random" have to do with it? Random does not mean spontaneity. Random simply means that we don't know. I could have been this, or it could have been that, or it could have been something else. Everything in the universe seems to have one cause or more that caused it to exist the way it does. There are countless billions of things in the universe that have known causes. The cause(s) of some of the things that exist in the universe are not known. But the one thing nobody has found is something that exists through spontaneity. Everything has a cause, and the idea of something existing spontaneously doesn't even fit with the way the universe operates. There are no spontaneous mutations in evolution. Even evolution theory says so by using the word random. This means that there are only unknown causes for the mutations in evolution. But since mutation causes are only unknown, the causes are still there. Whatever the Great First Cause of the mutations in evolution, the mutations have causes. This is not evolution. This is cause and effect. This is machines being designed to operate the way they do. The absolute only two things you have to do to prove evolution as fact are: 1. Find a bunch of for a fact spontaneous mutations; 2. Go back through all of time and show us where they exist. Other than that, evolution theory destroys evolution. What shows God? Everything in the universe is machinery of one sort or another. Machines have makers. Machine universe, because of its greatness and complexity, has a similarly great and complex Maker. Such a Maker fits our definition not only of God, but of God Almighty. Machines have makers. 
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~snip~ I never thought of having this discussion on a bitcoin forum. Life is full of surprises. You wrote some nice stuff back in 2016, I hope you're still active and, hopefully, read my reply. I couldn't agree more that God is a human creation. That's true, because humans needed to believe somewhere, hundreds of years ago. In ancient times when science wasn't evolving at all, people had to justify their existence. Once you get born, you're parents take care of you so you don't have to worry about anything. But when you grow up, you realize that something is always missing. This eternal lack of something makes human pretty unhappy. This causes him to question "Why am I alive?", and that's pretty reasonable. There isn't an answer to that and neither religion or science can ever answer. But he can make him calm down. (religion) As long as science evolves, people believe that they get stronger, because they learn more about everything. While this is mostly true, knowing that you're made out of atoms does not answer on "Why?". It only answers the "How?". But, the "Why?" is beyond philosophy. But even "How?" is sometimes unanswerable. What happened with big bang is something that human can find out after years of research or at least makes his assumptions. But when does religion touches human and makes him a slave? On existential questions. I'll give a pretty simple example, you can know what happened 1 year ago in a place. But what if we replace 1 with something that is not a number? Christianity sets the start of time 2020 years ago, when Jesus was bornt. So, right now we've defined time as a real number. Whatever n you'll give me I'll always have an n - 1 that will be before your n. But what was the very first n? The year in which time started its countdown. Wasn't there an n - 1 back then? What made it begin? Seriously, let's assume that we have an empty room. This room is clearly empty, no light, no air, no atoms. Nothing. Now let's assume that it doesn't have walls (a limit). It is expanding through infinity. This emptiness nothingness shows clearly that it's there to stay. Something cannot be created, because something else doesn't exist to causes it's creation. Since something exists we can ensure that, that room never existed. So... what happened firstly and what caused that thing and... PARADOX. We simply can't answer it. It's already a dead mystery. Better try finding who is Satoshi instead. That was the easy part. Here's the hard part: Why? Why did all these things happen? Who caused them? Who is responsible for those and what is it planning to do next? Is it something or nothing? Or neither both? It's another paradox. I'm replying to this thread, because OP is trying to prove that religions are some kind dumb. I didn't say that I don't agree with him, actually having a collection of religions around the world makes the original thing look kinda funny. I'm just trying to express that human is weak when he faces his existential queries and that science isn't enough. Although, it seems that religions are neither enough too. I personally don't believe somewhere, but neither state that I'm not a "believer". I'm just ignoring. I wasn't going to merit it, but this line worths a thousands merits: 1) Religion and Churches are one of the oldest and the biggest scam in the history of Mankind.
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