Why I'm an atheist

[BADecker]

Ford and Chev evolved from the '30s to what they are today. Is that what you mean?


All of evolution theory has this little thing in it called random mutations. Mutations seem to exist, but what does "random" have to do with it? Random does not mean spontaneity. Random simply means that we don't know. I could have been this, or it could have been that, or it could have been something else.

Everything in the universe seems to have one cause or more that caused it to exist the way it does. There are countless billions of things in the universe that have known causes. The cause(s) of some of the things that exist in the universe are not known. But the one thing nobody has found is something that exists through spontaneity. Everything has a cause, and the idea of something existing spontaneously doesn't even fit with the way the universe operates.

There are no spontaneous mutations in evolution. Even evolution theory says so by using the word random. This means that there are only unknown causes for the mutations in evolution. But since mutation causes are only unknown, the causes are still there. Whatever the Great First Cause of the mutations in evolution, the mutations have causes. This is not evolution. This is cause and effect. This is machines being designed to operate the way they do.


The absolute only two things you have to do to prove evolution as fact are:
1. Find a bunch of for a fact spontaneous mutations;
2. Go back through all of time and show us where they exist.

Other than that, evolution theory destroys evolution.


What shows God? Everything in the universe is machinery of one sort or another. Machines have makers. Machine universe, because of its greatness and complexity, has a similarly great and complex Maker. Such a Maker fits our definition not only of God, but of God Almighty. Machines have makers.

The universe is not a machine.

We build machines that are made up of many machines.

All of our machines come from parts of the universe, and from examples of the way the universe works.

The universe is definitely a machine, and our machines are simply part of machine universe!

[Trading]

So... what happened firstly and what caused that thing and... PARADOX. We simply can't answer it. It's already a dead mystery.

Yes, religion can't really explain anything, because they don't even try to explain the origin of god.

I already posted about a study saying atheists are statistically more intelligent than believers.

But I didn't adopt that position. Most of the people who made our world up to the XVI century were believers. There have been brilliant persons who were religious.

On the Op, I wrote that "I don't have anything against a sincere believer. You are my fellow human being who share with me our finite condition".

[Call me Fada]

        After taking time to go through this lengthy thread all I have to say is in as much as we have our different opinions or better Still in as much as we’re entitled to different opinions doesn’t mean some people or persons would air anything they like. It baffles me most time when I see people arguing the fact that there’s no God .
       Humans that still don’t understand how they came into the world 🌎 argues often of Gods existence it’s so funny 😂 come to think of it, please y’all should Google how man came to this world 🌎 or rather planet earth 🌎 you will see so many wonderful stories from different scholars yet they doubt the existence of the Almighty that brought them to existence.
        Man’s knowledge and so called wisdom is a total waste without the authorization of the almighty our creator, I’m not a religious person I’m not here to quote Bible quotations for y’all. I’m only stating facts. Nature alone is enough reason for someone to believe that there’s a super natural being.
     The problem here is most of you don’t read I don’t mean to sound rude, no one should take it personal please, but who do you think 💭 made the day go and night falls, rain 🌧 falls , sun ☀️ shines , you sleep 🛌 and wake up, who made this things? How does it work? Who controls this things? Some will go as far as saying it’s nature, okay 👍🏼 let’s blindly assume it’s nature the big question is who made this nature?? Your fore fathers? Or ancestors? Or Demi gods? Lol 😂 isn’t it funny 😄?
    Let’s be very honest to ourselves please and stop ✋ been unnecessaryly philosophical this is pure philosophy human thought 💭 there is no wisdom in all this. It is over twenty thousand twenty one years ago (2021)  many scholars had come and gone yet none have been able to tell or discover breath (life) human wisdom is foolishness to our creator. We all gonna die too another generation would arise and still think 🤔 they’re smart enough to belittle Our creators knowledge but to no avail 😂
    Now the super question is does it make sense to you reading this?
   I’m no atheist , I will never 👎🏼 be. I believe there’s a God which is our creator 🤝

[Pablo james]

I don't actually blame or judge anyone on their belief, everyone has the right to belief in anything that they think can save them, I am a Christian, I also believe that GOD exits.God is a Mistry he has a way of doing things, that's why you can't understand him, him being the ominiscien (he  sees everything, he alows everything to happen for a purpose .

[BADecker]

I don't actually blame or judge anyone on their belief, everyone has the right to belief in anything that they think can save them, I am a Christian, I also believe that GOD exits.God is a Mistry he has a way of doing things, that's why you can't understand him, him being the ominiscien (he  sees everything, he alows everything to happen for a purpose .

Good for you. But all of us miss the truth at least a little.

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In the Old West in the USA, a cowboy rode into town and got a room at the hotel.

In the middle of the night, he awoke in bed. Moonlight was streaming in the window. So he could see in the dimmess, a hand rising up over the foot of his bed.

Very quietly he reached over to the nightstand next to the bed, and drew his gun out of its holster. The hand was still rising in the dark. He shot.

Next day he was on crutches, one foot swathed in bandages.

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The point is, you can believe atheism or some other religion all you want. But if you don't believe the truth - at least to some extent - you might wind up being damaged by what you believe.

[Vod]

The point is, you can believe atheism or some other religion all you want. But if you don't believe the truth - at least to some extent - you might wind up being damaged by what you believe.

That's been the marketing campaign of the anti-vapers for years.   You may think it is helping you cope, but it destroys short term memory, and it destroys short term memory.  

In the end, we all die.  We trade experiences for mortality. The last thing one should worry about is how their decaying lungs smell/taste to the animals eating it.  

[sirazimuth]

..... It baffles me most time when I see people arguing the fact that there’s no God .
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Arguing there is no magic sky fairy doesnt baffle me. Obvious facts dont baffle me. If they baffle you, I guess you are easily baffled.

      .....  Man’s knowledge and so called wisdom is a total waste without the authorization of the almighty our creator, .....

Man’s knowledge and so called wisdom came about through science, reason and evidence, not authorization from and faith in some imaginary, zero evidence, invisible sky daddy.
Get out of the dark ages dude and read a couple of real science books.

....The problem here is most of you don’t read I don’t mean to sound rude, no one should take it personal please, but who do you think blah blah blah, bollocks, blah, blah

The problem here is you don't think and you sound like an arrogant fool, but no worries , I don't take your silly post personally.

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.... isn’t it funny 😄?

yeah, your post is hilarious actually.

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    there is no wisdom in all this. ....

Yes I agree here, your post is utter bollocks.

...Now the super question is does it make sense to you reading this?
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no

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   I’m no atheist , I will never 👎🏼 be. I believe there’s a God which is our creator 🤝

Good for you dude.
Now go worship him/her, flap your arms, dance around chanting, or whatever flavored ritual floats your imaginary friend boat. Its a free country. (sort of)

[Natsuu]

The point is, you can believe atheism or some other religion all you want. But if you don't believe the truth - at least to some extent - you might wind up being damaged by what you believe.

That's been the marketing campaign of the anti-vapers for years.   You may think it is helping you cope, but it destroys short term memory, and it destroys short term memory.  

In the end, we all die.  We trade experiences for mortality. The last thing one should worry about is how their decaying lungs smell/taste to the animals eating it.  

In the end we all die, but not at the same reason of death, I would rather die from natural accidents rather than dying from a lung cancer

[BADecker]

The point is, you can believe atheism or some other religion all you want. But if you don't believe the truth - at least to some extent - you might wind up being damaged by what you believe.

That's been the marketing campaign of the anti-vapers for years.   You may think it is helping you cope, but it destroys short term memory, and it destroys short term memory.  

In the end, we all die.  We trade experiences for mortality. The last thing one should worry about is how their decaying lungs smell/taste to the animals eating it.  

In the end we all die, but not at the same reason of death, I would rather die from natural accidents rather than dying from a lung cancer

I SURE don't want to die from the Covid vaccine, as possibly as many as over 200,000 in the States have died so far.

[Trading]

I guess our brave soldier of god prefers to die from sars 2 than from its vaccine. Statistics say that the probability of dying from sars 2 are much higher than dying from the vaccine.

But, of course, god would never let one of his soldiers to die from a disease...

On second thought, I guess he would. A lot of them died from countless pandemics.

It looks like god doesn't discriminate... he kill us all, including babies and children, who can't be sinners... of course, he has to be doing it to test their parents faith... Fair god who kills and tortures babies to test their parents! Way to go, god!

But isn't him omniscient? Doesn't he knows the future? Why test the parents, if he already knows who is going to fail?

[Natsuu]

The point is, you can believe atheism or some other religion all you want. But if you don't believe the truth - at least to some extent - you might wind up being damaged by what you believe.

That's been the marketing campaign of the anti-vapers for years.   You may think it is helping you cope, but it destroys short term memory, and it destroys short term memory.  

In the end, we all die.  We trade experiences for mortality. The last thing one should worry about is how their decaying lungs smell/taste to the animals eating it.  

In the end we all die, but not at the same reason of death, I would rather die from natural accidents rather than dying from a lung cancer

I SURE don't want to die from the Covid vaccine, as possibly as many as over 200,000 in the States have died so far.

Wow now there's over 200,000 deaths due to vaccine in the STATES ALONE, wow.

HAHAHA lmao, I admire your enthusiasm

[BADecker]

Wow now there's over 200,000 deaths due to vaccine in the STATES ALONE, wow.

HAHAHA lmao, I admire your enthusiasm

So you have joined in to warn people. Good! But check your sources. It might be nearing 400.000 by now.

And the big reason is, of course, that people are turning to atheism... away from God. God made people to enjoy Him, and worship Him because of their enjoyment. When people maintain an atheistic position in life, their purpose isn't being fufilled by them. No purpose? Why not let them pass on.

Help me send warnings.

[Cnut237]

I SURE don't want to die from the Covid vaccine, as possibly as many as over 200,000 in the States have died so far.

There is an ideal response to the finger-in-the-air, data-free, citation-free 'fact' above - which you are yourself implying is nonsense by qualifying it with the word "possibly".
That ideal response is:

check your sources.

You may find that many of them are lunatics ranting from their basement. Like that 'Satan Soldiers' guy from a few weeks back. Or the guy in that other video you linked to who kept saying that Bill Gates has a forked tongue.

[Natsuu]

Wow now there's over 200,000 deaths due to vaccine in the STATES ALONE, wow.

HAHAHA lmao, I admire your enthusiasm

So you have joined in to warn people. Good! But check your sources. It might be nearing 400.000 by now.

And the big reason is, of course, that people are turning to atheism... away from God. God made people to enjoy Him, and worship Him because of their enjoyment. When people maintain an atheistic position in life, their purpose isn't being fufilled by them. No purpose? Why not let them pass on.

Help me send warnings.

  HAHAHAHAHA

This is making me laugh so hard, but WOW now they are nearing 400,000 WOW, what's next? 600,000 or 800,000

People have purpose, though different than yours, but you can't accept that, cause your very own religion is selfish to the fact that you can't accept other peoples beliefs. OOPS

[BADecker]

Wow now there's over 200,000 deaths due to vaccine in the STATES ALONE, wow.

HAHAHA lmao, I admire your enthusiasm

So you have joined in to warn people. Good! But check your sources. It might be nearing 400.000 by now.

And the big reason is, of course, that people are turning to atheism... away from God. God made people to enjoy Him, and worship Him because of their enjoyment. When people maintain an atheistic position in life, their purpose isn't being fufilled by them. No purpose? Why not let them pass on.

Help me send warnings.

  HAHAHAHAHA

This is making me laugh so hard, but WOW now they are nearing 400,000 WOW, what's next? 600,000 or 800,000

Well, that depends on several things. For example. So far they are only calling direct deaths from the vaccines 'vaccine deaths'. But since the vaccines are turning the vaccinated into Covid super-spreaders, they might start tracking all the Covid cases attributed to the super-spreaders. New people dying of Covid - vaccinated or not - could be considered vaccine deaths if they caught Covid from a vaccinated super-spreader. This would take numbers of vaccine deaths way higher than the small numbers you are talking about.

Right now there are some traffic accident deaths cause by vaccine-deranged-drivers that really should be on the list of vaccine deaths... even if they were passengers who were never vaccinated, because they were caused by a vaccine-deranged-driver.

People have purpose, though different than yours, but you can't accept that, cause your very own religion is selfish to the fact that you can't accept other peoples beliefs. OOPS

The purpose of everybody is at least slightly different than that of everybody else. That's why the religion of everybody is different than everybody else.

For example. Take a husband/wife team who are real soul-mates. They can almost read each others' minds. They go to the same church, and believe the same way, and have extremely similar understandings about God and the Bible. Yet, no two people can be exactly the same in understanding. So, even these two people have slightly different religions.

We all live in the same world. If we live in a city, and walk down the sidewalk, and pass other people walking the other way, we don't kill them dead simply because they have different beliefs... like going the other way. So, we ALL accept others' beliefs in ways, even though our beliefs are not the same as any of them.

Do you even think before you post your silly stuff?

[sirazimuth]

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Do you even think before you post your silly stuff?

My BADecker irony meter just exploded....

[BADecker]

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Do you even think before you post your silly stuff?

My BADecker irony meter just exploded....

You just know there has to be some irony somewhere. Keep looking. You might even be able to find some.

[Trading]

Christians say that the fact that God (the father) was willing to send his son on a suicide mission (Bill Maher) with the goal of saving us all from our sins is evidence that he is a god of love!

If god's goal was to clean humankind from their past sins, couldn't he just forgive them?

If his intent was to make us better by example, he couldn't find a better way?

God is said to be omnipotent but the only way he found to make us better was to sacrifice Jesus to die an agonizing death?

Jesus wasn't pleased with the experience. He cried out: My God, Why Have You Forsaken Me?! Was he talking with himself (god, the father, and god, the son)? It doesn't look like as he planned the move...

Sacrificing Jesus wasn't a breach of the command he gave to Abraham, not to kill his son?

Do what I say and not what I do?

[Trading]

Christians use the cross as a symbol with pride, usually with Jesus nailed on it.

But there is no need to invoke common sense. The very bible leaves abundantly clear that Jesus wasn't pleased with the experience.

If he could see them, how Jesus would feel to see all his worshipers with a cross with him nailed?

I doubt that he would be pleased with the homage. It would bring him traumatic memories.

[arielbit]

Christians use the cross as a symbol with pride, usually with Jesus nailed on it.

But there is no need to invoke common sense. The very bible leaves abundantly clear that Jesus wasn't pleased with the experience.

If he could see them, how Jesus would feel to see all his worshipers with a cross with him nailed?

I doubt that he would be pleased with the homage. It would bring him traumatic memories.

why did Jesus did not write a single book/paragraph/sentence in the bible?