Why I'm an atheist

[BADecker]

I think you faulted in some passages of the Bible that you made reference to as you only picked a verse and not what was was going on at that point in time when the verse was related to.

Any comment is welcome.

However, I don't think you mean that when Yahweh ordered (read a priest said god ordered something in order to justify horrible acts from the ancient Hebrews) the extermination of women and children (Joshua 6:21; Judges 21:10; Numbers 31:7-18), killing of babies (Isaiah 13:16) or massive rape (Numbers 31:18; Deuteronomy 20:10-14) these acts could be justified by the context...

No one dares to try to argue that today in a moral debate.

Why not. The executed were enemies of God, of good, and of God's people, Israel... even the babies were.

Besides, even if you don't understand, God owns everything. It is His right to do whatever He wants.

Our brave soldier of god keeps promoting atheism.

Sentences like the bold one are the reason why religion is dangerous.  

In the end, the danger isn't god, he is just another human creation. The danger are what believers can do. Not even babies are safe.

Dangerous? No. It's the other way around. For example.

A tornado is coming. The tornado is dangerous. God is trying to show you a way out of the tornado of death. But if you don't find out that God exists, it will be impossible to find His salvation.

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[BADecker]

The start of it comes from the proof that God exists:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

Once one understands that God exists, he will ask God, and God will show him the rest of the conclusion.

Just so you all know.....

This is NOT proof.

This is the writings of someone who believes it is proof.

Much the same as those who believe the Earth is Flat.

The stuff in the links are not proof all by themselves. Rather, they are backed up by the science law that is expressed in them.

A major part of the reason why scientists are seeking all kinds of things, is to see if they can find some way to disprove the science laws expressed by the proofs. They do this because they don't want God to exist. They don't want to see the truth about God.

Can't change the facts. God can't be destroyed. Try too hard, and you will only succeed in destroying yourself.

The God concept was created by people.  That is why God concept changes from culture to culture.  

Even the same God, say Christian God, went through years of transformation.

God exists in your mind, nowhere else.  You might "feel" he exists elsewhere, but the reality is:  there is no God.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5ZLuRYp8gk

Quite the opposite. The fact that God is recognized by peoples from around the world shows that God exists. The fact that atheists say, often adamantly, that God doesn't exist, when they don't know that He doesn't exist, shows that they are setting themselves up as gods (by making a strong claim they don't know is true), at the same time they are denouncing His existence. They are essentially denouncing their own existence.

[Buffer Overflow]

The Old Testament in Hebrew has been copied, and re-copied, over and over, many times for the many years. The Dead Sea Scrolls show that the book of Isaiah in the O.T. was almost exactly the same as it is today. This is because at the time the printing press was developed, it had not changed in about 2,000 years. Two points about this:
1. It is a miracle that this could have been done;
2. The rest of the O.T. was done the same way.

Further. The nation of Israel is still around and powerful, after it was destroyed many times. Why? Two reasons:
1. The O.T. is so powerful that Israel is still strong in it;
2. the people of Israel are dedicated, which means that they wouldn't have written what they have written as they have if it were a lie.

Further. We are finding N.T. scraps from the first century A.D. that show the New Testament to be the same as well.

This doesn't happen by accident, with a very powerful nation (the USA) being possibly the greatest "pusher" of the Bible. It isn't a natural thing that this happens like this.

If you had just happen to be born in a Islamic environment, chances are you would on here now telling us all the great "proof" Islam is the one true religion.
If you had just happen to be born in a Catholic environment, chances are you would on here now telling us all the great "proof" Catholicism is the one true religion.
If you had just happen to be born in a Jewish environment, chances are you would on here now telling us all the great "proof" Judaism is the one true religion.

Once you understand this, the penny drops why your "proof" is nothing but empty hot air.
Meaningless drivel.

And since you have adopted the atheism religion for yourself, let's go back to the proof, and see who has the known-to-be-factual science law on his side, and who has the not-known-to-be-factual science theory on his side.

Nice strawman argument. 

[iluvbitcoins]

Quite the opposite. The fact that God is recognized by peoples from around the world shows that God exists. The fact that atheists say, often adamantly, that God doesn't exist, when they don't know that He doesn't exist, shows that they are setting themselves up as gods (by making a strong claim they don't know is true), at the same time they are denouncing His existence. They are essentially denouncing their own existence.

If you actually start studying history and examine the first gods, and the transition from animism to the first gods

You'll realize, that the gods were made up in order to give authority to the ruler

Images of An giving the ruler and the rod to Sumerian kings etc. is made in order to make people believe they must respect the king and the law!

May he be damned by the gods who disobeys these laws, and may he be praised who follows them...
The first law tablets were made up to 2500 BC (Urukagin, Urnamu...)

Gods were made for control!
Other nations saw it as convient, and applied it

You can see many nations after conquering an area changing the meaning of gods, inventing new ones, and expelling old ones
For example Marduk taking over and giving kingship to kings

Soon, Christianty was invented and since it was so liberal for the common folk, they started embracing it
And as every other religion it was forbidden
After the commoners started adapting it faster

Roman emperors (NOT CHRISTIANS!!) realized the new religion also has phrases about respecting the king and the kingdom, so it sees it as a new religion that will bide the kingdom together and make it stronger

And so it does

That is the story, of how religion became

If you study history without using new knowledge only to adapt it to your previous ideas, you'll realize how religion became

[iluvbitcoins]

There is a good book on the subject.

https://www.amazon.com/Sapiens-Humankind-Yuval-Noah-Harari/dp/0062316095/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1485553120&sr=8-1&keywords=human+history

Written by a historian.

Too bad it starts only 100 000 BC

I love seeing monkeys before us evolving into what we are
Even before Australopithecus  

Sounds interesting though

Ohh, I'll also watch the movie af_newbie posted from youtube  

[qwik2learn]

Quite the opposite. The fact that God is recognized by peoples from around the world shows that God exists. The fact that atheists say, often adamantly, that God doesn't exist, when they don't know that He doesn't exist, shows that they are setting themselves up as gods (by making a strong claim they don't know is true), at the same time they are denouncing His existence. They are essentially denouncing their own existence.

If you actually start studying history and examine the first gods, and the transition from animism to the first gods

You'll realize, that the gods were made up in order to give authority to the ruler

Images of An giving the ruler and the rod to Sumerian kings etc. is made in order to make people believe they must respect the king and the law!

May he be damned by the gods who disobeys these laws, and may he be praised who follows them...
The first law tablets were made up to 2500 BC (Urukagin, Urnamu...)

Gods were made for control!
Other nations saw it as convient, and applied it

You can see many nations after conquering an area changing the meaning of gods, inventing new ones, and expelling old ones
For example Marduk taking over and giving kingship to kings

Soon, Christianty was invented and since it was so liberal for the common folk, they started embracing it
And as every other religion it was forbidden
After the commoners started adapting it faster

Roman emperors (NOT CHRISTIANS!!) realized the new religion also has phrases about respecting the king and the kingdom, so it sees it as a new religion that will bide the kingdom together and make it stronger

And so it does

That is the story, of how religion became

If you study history without using new knowledge only to adapt it to your previous ideas, you'll realize how religion became

What about the part in the story where it is recognized that the ancients only had ONE GOD? For example you can study the documentary "Krishna: History or Myth?", or inquire into the writings of Plato, who described an Atlantean culture. After a bit of critical thinking you could easily determine that your story does not fit with the facts about ancient people.
http://www.atlantisquest.com/Plato.html

[HateNATO]

I started to stop being atheist because I started to begging a good for my better family situaction and financial situaction and I have some feeling that he listen me.NOw everything is going better and better.Better trust to God.

[popcorn1]

Quite the opposite. The fact that God is recognized by peoples from around the world shows that God exists. The fact that atheists say, often adamantly, that God doesn't exist, when they don't know that He doesn't exist, shows that they are setting themselves up as gods (by making a strong claim they don't know is true), at the same time they are denouncing His existence. They are essentially denouncing their own existence.

If you actually start studying history and examine the first gods, and the transition from animism to the first gods

You'll realize, that the gods were made up in order to give authority to the ruler

Images of An giving the ruler and the rod to Sumerian kings etc. is made in order to make people believe they must respect the king and the law!

May he be damned by the gods who disobeys these laws, and may he be praised who follows them...
The first law tablets were made up to 2500 BC (Urukagin, Urnamu...)

Gods were made for control!
Other nations saw it as convient, and applied it

You can see many nations after conquering an area changing the meaning of gods, inventing new ones, and expelling old ones
For example Marduk taking over and giving kingship to kings

Soon, Christianty was invented and since it was so liberal for the common folk, they started embracing it
And as every other religion it was forbidden
After the commoners started adapting it faster

Roman emperors (NOT CHRISTIANS!!) realized the new religion also has phrases about respecting the king and the kingdom, so it sees it as a new religion that will bide the kingdom together and make it stronger

And so it does

That is the story, of how religion became

If you study history without using new knowledge only to adapt it to your previous ideas, you'll realize how religion became

You'll realize, that the gods were made up in order to give authority to the ruler..NOPE..

SOUND OF THUNDER..Started all the god stories..

Just think weather is to blame for quite a lot of things..Even the way we look..

[BADecker]

Quite the opposite. The fact that God is recognized by peoples from around the world shows that God exists. The fact that atheists say, often adamantly, that God doesn't exist, when they don't know that He doesn't exist, shows that they are setting themselves up as gods (by making a strong claim they don't know is true), at the same time they are denouncing His existence. They are essentially denouncing their own existence.

If you actually start studying history and examine the first gods, and the transition from animism to the first gods

You'll realize, that the gods were made up in order to give authority to the ruler

Images of An giving the ruler and the rod to Sumerian kings etc. is made in order to make people believe they must respect the king and the law!

May he be damned by the gods who disobeys these laws, and may he be praised who follows them...
The first law tablets were made up to 2500 BC (Urukagin, Urnamu...)

Gods were made for control!
Other nations saw it as convient, and applied it

You can see many nations after conquering an area changing the meaning of gods, inventing new ones, and expelling old ones
For example Marduk taking over and giving kingship to kings

Soon, Christianty was invented and since it was so liberal for the common folk, they started embracing it
And as every other religion it was forbidden
After the commoners started adapting it faster

Roman emperors (NOT CHRISTIANS!!) realized the new religion also has phrases about respecting the king and the kingdom, so it sees it as a new religion that will bide the kingdom together and make it stronger

And so it does

That is the story, of how religion became

If you study history without using new knowledge only to adapt it to your previous ideas, you'll realize how religion became

Certainly some people use religious authority for controlling people for whatever reason. But you would have to know all religious history before you could make a reasonably accurate determination about who held places of leadership in religions, and why.

It is much easier to study the atheism religion to see that university people, scientists, and government people are making money controlling people into the religion of atheism today.

[BADecker]

Quite the opposite. The fact that God is recognized by peoples from around the world shows that God exists. The fact that atheists say, often adamantly, that God doesn't exist, when they don't know that He doesn't exist, shows that they are setting themselves up as gods (by making a strong claim they don't know is true), at the same time they are denouncing His existence. They are essentially denouncing their own existence.

If you actually start studying history and examine the first gods, and the transition from animism to the first gods

You'll realize, that the gods were made up in order to give authority to the ruler

Images of An giving the ruler and the rod to Sumerian kings etc. is made in order to make people believe they must respect the king and the law!

May he be damned by the gods who disobeys these laws, and may he be praised who follows them...
The first law tablets were made up to 2500 BC (Urukagin, Urnamu...)

Gods were made for control!
Other nations saw it as convient, and applied it

You can see many nations after conquering an area changing the meaning of gods, inventing new ones, and expelling old ones
For example Marduk taking over and giving kingship to kings

Soon, Christianty was invented and since it was so liberal for the common folk, they started embracing it
And as every other religion it was forbidden
After the commoners started adapting it faster

Roman emperors (NOT CHRISTIANS!!) realized the new religion also has phrases about respecting the king and the kingdom, so it sees it as a new religion that will bide the kingdom together and make it stronger

And so it does

That is the story, of how religion became

If you study history without using new knowledge only to adapt it to your previous ideas, you'll realize how religion became

You'll realize, that the gods were made up in order to give authority to the ruler..NOPE..

SOUND OF THUNDER..Started all the god stories..

Just think weather is to blame for quite a lot of things..Even the way we look..

Way back, in the beginning of history times, people were intelligent enough, before all the devolution that has set in today, to understand what God was saying when He spoke with His voice of thunder.

[the rise]

I want to ask two questions to the atheist followers:

1. If you are frustrated and very severe emotional in your life, what you think and do to soothe your soul back?
-Many cases in Japan and Korea, which states that many atheists who committed suicide because they could no longer control its spiritual side.

2. When you know that you are going to die (such as illness or death penalty). Are you not worried that after death you will be a zero point that will not bounce back?
-In many religious teachings that explains the process after death. But not with atheists.

[BADecker]

Way back, in the beginning of history times, people were intelligent enough, before all the devolution that has set in today, to understand what God was saying when He spoke with His voice of thunder.

Are you sure? They were riding donkeys and living in caves.  Believing in Osiris (aka Jesus) etc.

You weren't there. So, you are wrong! How can I say that you are wrong accurately? Bible history. Take a look at why the Bible is a miracle of God here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1566146.msg17648127#msg17648127.

[iluvbitcoins]

I want to ask two questions to the atheist followers:

1. If you are frustrated and very severe emotional in your life, what you think and do to soothe your soul back?
-Many cases in Japan and Korea, which states that many atheists who committed suicide because they could no longer control its spiritual side.

2. When you know that you are going to die (such as illness or death penalty). Are you not worried that after death you will be a zero point that will not bounce back?
-In many religious teachings that explains the process after death. But not with atheists.

Everyone is sad when he realizes there is no God

Were you not sad when you realized there was no Santa?

I got afterlife taken away from me
I was sad for a long time

But I lived on, because I live in reality, not in fairytales
If I wanted to, I could believe when I die 600 big boobed virgins will fuck me throughout a year
But what's the purpose of it if I know it's not going to happen?

I accepted my life ends with my death, and that's what makes it all the more special

[fasdorcas]

i think you have to first research about all the exiting religions and science as well widely and then you have to ask it from yourself...... and i think you have the right to join any of the religion if you want ......
but first you research about it......

[BADecker]

I want to ask two questions to the atheist followers:

1. If you are frustrated and very severe emotional in your life, what you think and do to soothe your soul back?
-Many cases in Japan and Korea, which states that many atheists who committed suicide because they could no longer control its spiritual side.

2. When you know that you are going to die (such as illness or death penalty). Are you not worried that after death you will be a zero point that will not bounce back?
-In many religious teachings that explains the process after death. But not with atheists.

Everyone is sad when he realizes there is no God

Were you not sad when you realized there was no Santa?

I got afterlife taken away from me
I was sad for a long time

But I lived on, because I live in reality, not in fairytales
If I wanted to, I could believe when I die 600 big boobed virgins will fuck me throughout a year
But what's the purpose of it if I know it's not going to happen?

I accepted my life ends with my death, and that's what makes it all the more special

Many scientists are sad when they realize that science has become a religion.

The proof that God exists has been around for hundreds of years in the basic science laws, and forever in the evidence of nature:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

If you believe in science theory, and that God doesn't exist when science law shows that He does exist, you believe in the biggest fairy tale of all.

[Buffer Overflow]

I want to ask two questions to the atheist followers:

1. If you are frustrated and very severe emotional in your life, what you think and do to soothe your soul back?
-Many cases in Japan and Korea, which states that many atheists who committed suicide because they could no longer control its spiritual side.

2. When you know that you are going to die (such as illness or death penalty). Are you not worried that after death you will be a zero point that will not bounce back?
-In many religious teachings that explains the process after death. But not with atheists.

Everyone is sad when he realizes there is no God

Were you not sad when you realized there was no Santa?

I got afterlife taken away from me
I was sad for a long time

But I lived on, because I live in reality, not in fairytales
If I wanted to, I could believe when I die 600 big boobed virgins will fuck me throughout a year
But what's the purpose of it if I know it's not going to happen?

I accepted my life ends with my death, and that's what makes it all the more special

Many scientists are sad when they realize that science has become a religion.

The proof that God exists has been around for hundreds of years in the basic science laws, and forever in the evidence of nature:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

If you believe in science theory, and that God doesn't exist when science law shows that He does exist, you believe in the biggest fairy tale of all.

Science is guesswork.

[stats]

I want to ask two questions to the atheist followers:

1. If you are frustrated and very severe emotional in your life, what you think and do to soothe your soul back?
-Many cases in Japan and Korea, which states that many atheists who committed suicide because they could no longer control its spiritual side.

2. When you know that you are going to die (such as illness or death penalty). Are you not worried that after death you will be a zero point that will not bounce back?
-In many religious teachings that explains the process after death. But not with atheists.

Everyone is sad when he realizes there is no God

Were you not sad when you realized there was no Santa?

I got afterlife taken away from me
I was sad for a long time

But I lived on, because I live in reality, not in fairytales
If I wanted to, I could believe when I die 600 big boobed virgins will fuck me throughout a year
But what's the purpose of it if I know it's not going to happen?

I accepted my life ends with my death, and that's what makes it all the more special

Many scientists are sad when they realize that science has become a religion.

The proof that God exists has been around for hundreds of years in the basic science laws, and forever in the evidence of nature:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

If you believe in science theory, and that God doesn't exist when science law shows that He does exist, you believe in the biggest fairy tale of all.

Your words are not the truth and are certainly not proof. They are nothing apart from your belief.

By posting your words as truth and as proof you are setting yourself up as a Messiah?

I wonder what your god says about that?

[BADecker]

I want to ask two questions to the atheist followers:

1. If you are frustrated and very severe emotional in your life, what you think and do to soothe your soul back?
-Many cases in Japan and Korea, which states that many atheists who committed suicide because they could no longer control its spiritual side.

2. When you know that you are going to die (such as illness or death penalty). Are you not worried that after death you will be a zero point that will not bounce back?
-In many religious teachings that explains the process after death. But not with atheists.

Everyone is sad when he realizes there is no God

Were you not sad when you realized there was no Santa?

I got afterlife taken away from me
I was sad for a long time

But I lived on, because I live in reality, not in fairytales
If I wanted to, I could believe when I die 600 big boobed virgins will fuck me throughout a year
But what's the purpose of it if I know it's not going to happen?

I accepted my life ends with my death, and that's what makes it all the more special

Many scientists are sad when they realize that science has become a religion.

The proof that God exists has been around for hundreds of years in the basic science laws, and forever in the evidence of nature:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

If you believe in science theory, and that God doesn't exist when science law shows that He does exist, you believe in the biggest fairy tale of all.

Your words are not the truth and are certainly not proof. They are nothing apart from your belief.

By posting your words as truth and as proof you are setting yourself up as a Messiah?

I wonder what your god says about that?

My words are absolutely not proof. They simply point at the proof in case anyone is interested in finding it out for himself.

Actually, it is the Messiah Who set up my words, through cause and effect. He did it according to my faith in Him. He is, also setting up your words of opposition, according to your lack of faith in Him.

[stats]

I want to ask two questions to the atheist followers:

1. If you are frustrated and very severe emotional in your life, what you think and do to soothe your soul back?
-Many cases in Japan and Korea, which states that many atheists who committed suicide because they could no longer control its spiritual side.

2. When you know that you are going to die (such as illness or death penalty). Are you not worried that after death you will be a zero point that will not bounce back?
-In many religious teachings that explains the process after death. But not with atheists.

Everyone is sad when he realizes there is no God

Were you not sad when you realized there was no Santa?

I got afterlife taken away from me
I was sad for a long time

But I lived on, because I live in reality, not in fairytales
If I wanted to, I could believe when I die 600 big boobed virgins will fuck me throughout a year
But what's the purpose of it if I know it's not going to happen?

I accepted my life ends with my death, and that's what makes it all the more special

Many scientists are sad when they realize that science has become a religion.

The proof that God exists has been around for hundreds of years in the basic science laws, and forever in the evidence of nature:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

If you believe in science theory, and that God doesn't exist when science law shows that He does exist, you believe in the biggest fairy tale of all.

Your words are not the truth and are certainly not proof. They are nothing apart from your belief.

By posting your words as truth and as proof you are setting yourself up as a Messiah?

I wonder what your god says about that?

My words are absolutely not proof. They simply point at the proof in case anyone is interested in finding it out for himself.

Actually, it is the Messiah Who set up my words, through cause and effect. He did it according to my faith in Him. He is, also setting up your words of opposition, according to your lack of faith in Him.

But you are quoting your own words and stating it as proof. Therefore, you claim it as proof. The reality is it is your idea of proof.

Cause and effect does not prove a "God"... you use cause and effect to assume it as a god. Your whole basis of argument is assumption.

Having no proof does not prove anything.

[GooCust04]

The dispute about whether God exists or not is a waste of time. Like a stupid person can explain to that tale is fiction and never existed. I'm an atheist because there is no scientific evidence for the existence of God.