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Since the "soul" has to interact with the body to control it, the "soul" couldn't be a pure metaphysical “substance”, it should be physical, composed of particles/energy (which is the same, as Einstein said) or it couldn’t “command the body”. The so-called dualism, arguing for a main difference of nature between mind (or soul) and body, imply a direct violation of the Second law of thermodynamics [see, for instance, Harold Morowitz, The Mind Body Problem and The Second Law of Thermodynamics ( http://newdualism.org/papers/H.Morowitz/Morowitz-BandP-1987.pdf)]. Thus, as a system of physical particles, the soul would be subject necessarily to an increase of entropy and therefore to decay and dissolute on smaller particles: on other words, to death. Moreover, at least until now, the CERN's Large Hadron Collider didn’t find any particle compatible with any "soul". Some even say that if this particle wasn’t already found, it won’t ever be because, taking in account the levels of energy at which the body works, it had to showed up by now ( http://www.express.co.uk/news/science/771662/Brian-Cox-Neil-deGrasse-Tyson-GHOST-LHC). I have to add this argument against the "soul" to the Op in due time. Of course, the same reasoning applies to god. In order to be able to create the Universe, he had to have physical nature. An ethereal substance couldn’t create physical particles or changed them in order to cause the Big Bang. The same must said about his ability to make “miracles”. But I guess that with god everything is fair game, including claim that he can change him self from a “perfect substance” into a physical nature and back again. God is the supreme chameleon. How exactly would you use the concept of a physical soul to explain the survival of the personality? The top cases demonstrating the survival of the human personality after the demise of the physical body. http://www.aeces.info/Top40/top40-main.shtmlHello to all open-minded atheists, Thanks for reading the cases, they really are, in my opinion, some of the strongest proof available. I am still waiting for a rebuttal for these cases, it must include an explanation that is simple and adequate, but to me it seems that survival is the most simple and adequate.
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Quietman
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May 27, 2017, 10:56:33 AM |
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Religitards think their shit don't stink...
They think they are better than everyone else (God's special/chosen people)
They think everyone else is doomed to hell, and certainly not worthy of being treated with common decency or respect
How sad it must be to believe you are inherently superior to anyone based on believing a fairy tale... What the fuck is wrong with people?
Maybe your believe and faith in God was lost because of your different painful experiences in life. Thinking your must superior for no one? Or, believing every one exist because of evolution? It is between you and God on how you respect your belief.
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May 27, 2017, 04:41:53 PM |
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Religitards think their shit don't stink...
They think they are better than everyone else (God's special/chosen people)
They think everyone else is doomed to hell, and certainly not worthy of being treated with common decency or respect
How sad it must be to believe you are inherently superior to anyone based on believing a fairy tale... What the fuck is wrong with people?
Maybe your believe and faith in God was lost because of your different painful experiences in life. Thinking your must superior for no one? Or, believing every one exist because of evolution? It is between you and God on how you respect your belief. I do not know how to whom, but for me to do Even the very words of an atheist sound a little insulting. How would I not believe in God weakly or strongly But I'm even very afraid of speaking out negatively, so that everything does not sound like blasphemy. There is some kind of fear in this.
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May 28, 2017, 12:45:56 PM |
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Religitards think their shit don't stink...
They think they are better than everyone else (God's special/chosen people)
They think everyone else is doomed to hell, and certainly not worthy of being treated with common decency or respect
How sad it must be to believe you are inherently superior to anyone based on believing a fairy tale... What the fuck is wrong with people?
Maybe your believe and faith in God was lost because of your different painful experiences in life. Thinking your must superior for no one? Or, believing every one exist because of evolution? It is between you and God on how you respect your belief. I do not know how to whom, but for me to do Even the very words of an atheist sound a little insulting. How would I not believe in God weakly or strongly But I'm even very afraid of speaking out negatively, so that everything does not sound like blasphemy. There is some kind of fear in this. When a person states that he is an atheist, he is simply being defiant. What is he being defiant against? Natural knowledge of God in His heart. Why is he not fearful? Because God is patient. Because the so-called atheist's impending death and doom seem far away. Because God does things in His own time, and the defiance of mankind doesn't do anything to God at all. Because when God waits, he is showing the defiant person that all his defiance doesn't do anything at all. God didn't make people for the purpose of causing their own stupid destruction. Rather, He made them so that they can be His children for a time. Children get to have the same kind of glory as their parents, even though much of it comes after the children grow up. That's what God wants for us. Let the person who tries to ignore God continue on his ignorant way. All he is doing is destroying his chance for a glorious future. Let him destroy himself, since that is what he seems to want. 
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May 28, 2017, 01:22:38 PM |
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Religitards think their shit don't stink...
They think they are better than everyone else (God's special/chosen people)
They think everyone else is doomed to hell, and certainly not worthy of being treated with common decency or respect
How sad it must be to believe you are inherently superior to anyone based on believing a fairy tale... What the fuck is wrong with people?
Maybe your believe and faith in God was lost because of your different painful experiences in life. Thinking your must superior for no one? Or, believing every one exist because of evolution? It is between you and God on how you respect your belief. I do not know how to whom, but for me to do Even the very words of an atheist sound a little insulting. How would I not believe in God weakly or strongly But I'm even very afraid of speaking out negatively, so that everything does not sound like blasphemy. There is some kind of fear in this. Probably you are brought up in strict traditions. You have fear of God. It is not right. You must understand that God is good and he always cares for you.
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May 28, 2017, 01:57:03 PM |
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Religitards think their shit don't stink...
They think they are better than everyone else (God's special/chosen people)
They think everyone else is doomed to hell, and certainly not worthy of being treated with common decency or respect
How sad it must be to believe you are inherently superior to anyone based on believing a fairy tale... What the fuck is wrong with people?
Maybe your believe and faith in God was lost because of your different painful experiences in life. Thinking your must superior for no one? Or, believing every one exist because of evolution? It is between you and God on how you respect your belief. I do not know how to whom, but for me to do Even the very words of an atheist sound a little insulting. How would I not believe in God weakly or strongly But I'm even very afraid of speaking out negatively, so that everything does not sound like blasphemy. There is some kind of fear in this. Probably you are brought up in strict traditions. You have fear of God. It is not right. You must understand that God is good and he always cares for you. But God has destroyed some people in the past. And nobody seems to have good health in this life for more than 100 years, or so. And then he dies. How can I be good enough to be sure that God will let me be healthy and safe forever? 
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May 28, 2017, 02:05:27 PM |
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Religitards think their shit don't stink...
They think they are better than everyone else (God's special/chosen people)
They think everyone else is doomed to hell, and certainly not worthy of being treated with common decency or respect
How sad it must be to believe you are inherently superior to anyone based on believing a fairy tale... What the fuck is wrong with people?
Maybe your believe and faith in God was lost because of your different painful experiences in life. Thinking your must superior for no one? Or, believing every one exist because of evolution? It is between you and God on how you respect your belief. I do not know how to whom, but for me to do Even the very words of an atheist sound a little insulting. How would I not believe in God weakly or strongly But I'm even very afraid of speaking out negatively, so that everything does not sound like blasphemy. There is some kind of fear in this. Probably you are brought up in strict traditions. You have fear of God. It is not right. You must understand that God is good and he always cares for you. Even if you use your brain to reason that he does not exist. He still 'loves' you. He created hell because he 'loves' you. Remember that. Right. God created Hell because of people who wanted a place without God. He did it just for you, because He loves you. 
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May 28, 2017, 06:28:35 PM |
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Religitards think their shit don't stink...
They think they are better than everyone else (God's special/chosen people)
They think everyone else is doomed to hell, and certainly not worthy of being treated with common decency or respect
How sad it must be to believe you are inherently superior to anyone based on believing a fairy tale... What the fuck is wrong with people?
Maybe your believe and faith in God was lost because of your different painful experiences in life. Thinking your must superior for no one? Or, believing every one exist because of evolution? It is between you and God on how you respect your belief. I do not know how to whom, but for me to do Even the very words of an atheist sound a little insulting. How would I not believe in God weakly or strongly But I'm even very afraid of speaking out negatively, so that everything does not sound like blasphemy. There is some kind of fear in this. Probably you are brought up in strict traditions. You have fear of God. It is not right. You must understand that God is good and he always cares for you. Even if you use your brain to reason that he does not exist. He still 'loves' you. He created hell because he 'loves' you. Remember that. Right. God created Hell because of people who wanted a place without God. He did it just for you, because He loves you.  Are you sure? Maybe Allah will put YOU there for no believing in him ROFL.... As far as I can judge the current situation in the world. I so want to assure you that atheism is like the plague of the 21st century, a kind of virus that infects people and salvation from it for the time being is not yet visible.
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May 28, 2017, 07:07:00 PM |
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It's all your choice whether to be an atheist or not, am not against atheist but I think it's stupid to think that there is no supreme being out there in the entire universe. Just saying though, meant no offense.
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May 28, 2017, 07:17:20 PM |
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It's all your choice whether to be an atheist or not, am not against atheist but I think it's stupid to think that there is no supreme being out there in the entire universe. Just saying though, meant no offense.
No, it's never your choice to be an atheist... at least if you are aware of the concept of God. Why not? Because if you know of the concept of God, you automatically believe that He might exist somewhere you haven't examined yet. A so-called atheist might want to be an atheist. He might be trying to convince himself that he is an atheist. He might have an agenda where he is promoting the atheism idea. But he is not an atheist. Atheism has to do with believing that God doesn't exist. So-called atheists don't believe such. They aren't atheists, no matter how much they like to state that they are. Nobody is strong enough, mentally, that he can believe wholeheartedly something is true when he knows that the opposite might exist. And atheism doesn't leave room in the definition for believing anything else other than that God doesn't exist. 
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October 27, 2017, 06:14:10 PM |
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Small update.
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October 27, 2017, 07:45:02 PM |
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I am atheist because of religious people's behaviours make me sick. People who believe in any religion have no ethics and they can easily kill people for the sake of their so-called religion ... Because this vicious reality, I am an atheist...
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October 27, 2017, 08:34:57 PM |
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I believe in the existence of a super natural being(s). Personally i have been brought up in a liberal family and i have made my personal pursuits.
But there are many real things in my own life that cant be explained by mere science. I believe in the existence of supernatural beings who oversee some parts of our lives, but i dont think any religion is accurate in the allegations they make. I agree that many parts of the religious literature feel like personal feelings and imaginations.
Good post, thank you.
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Sheckley
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October 28, 2017, 01:08:35 AM |
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Everything is just so much twisted upside down, it should not be an atheist the one to explain why something which there is no proof of doesn't exist, but it should a believer the one who has to explain WHY he believes that something like that exists.
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November 18, 2017, 12:57:26 PM |
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If god existed, he would ask with anxiety "Who created me?".
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November 23, 2017, 03:24:12 PM |
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The above post deserved at least some flame or bashing from some believer.
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November 23, 2017, 07:27:18 PM Last edit: September 08, 2018, 07:58:50 PM by jonemil24 |
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If god existed, he would ask with anxiety "Who created me?".
I'm not an atheist but I somewhat disagree on what religious people tells me. I would like to describe my God as someone who gives us so much freedom, so much freedom that we destroy everything and he/she is just watching us like we were in an aquarium. Or maybe God is planning something.(words of the faithful) In my own opinion, religion was created by people to give hope for the weak, but religion now grew so big it became a group who just wanted to control people. I am born and baptized as a Christian, Roman Catholic to be precised. I read few pages of the bible and noticed that the God from the old testament and the new are different. My own theory is, when you read some of the pages from the old testament; you may notice that God was like a dictator, he always punish the bad and show miracles to the good, you may also notice that God directly talks to people and gave them instructions. But in new testament, God just sent his most favorite spirit who happened to be Jesus, you may also notice that God became merciful on this part of the book. And I strongly disagree that God and Jesus are one, which most of faithful Christians think about. As for #8 which was about creation, I can't give you a definite and proven answer but you can have my philosophical view about it: You can't just simply put everything in an instant. Everything is associated with TIME, but I'm not sure if God is included in it. We can't force a newborn child to become a full grown adult in a blink of an eye, where's the beauty in that? If it ever happens; we won't be able to identify what molded his ways of thinking, everything starts at nothing into something. As the song of Miley Cyrus goes- "Ain't about how fast I get there, Ain't about what's waiting on the other side; It's the climb". Let TIME define everything. Honestly, it's hard to tell it in words(I know it, but it's beyond my description).
As for your question, who created God?:
Let God solve his own problem, but if God asked me for help, I would say- sure, after I solved mine.sorry if my grammar and writing is bad  P.S: I'm trying to make a manga out of all the questions of life and death but I need to be a good writer first. You can be my ghost writer but you will only get paid if the manga became successful. You might want to add Buddha's teaching and Scientology.
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November 23, 2017, 08:40:39 PM |
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Holy wow bro first I thought wall of text no way. But after reading that whole thing for the last half hour or so I must say thank you kindly for making this post. I was already a practicing atheist but you hit the nail on square on the head with your post. I can now take some well thought out concrete like points with me into battle, thanks again you the man! 
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December 05, 2017, 11:34:37 PM |
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If you are an atheist and it works for you then I'm happy for you. I'm not religious myself but i do believe in a higher being than myself. It gives me a purpose to strive and be better. It gives me a governing rule for people around me out side the laws of the land. It also gives me hope, that whatever good i do here on this life will be rewarded in the next
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January 09, 2018, 02:14:47 AM |
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Holy wow bro first I thought wall of text no way. But after reading that whole thing for the last half hour or so I must say thank you kindly for making this post. I was already a practicing atheist but you hit the nail on square on the head with your post. I can now take some well thought out concrete like points with me into battle, thanks again you the man!  Good luck to your battles. If god existed, he would ask with anxiety "Who created me?".
P.S: I'm trying to make a manga out of all the questions of life and death but I need to be a good writer first. You can be my ghost writer but you will only get paid if the manga became successful. My english is not that good. Good luck. I'm not religious myself
I would say that those believes make you a religious person.
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