Why I'm an atheist

[sirazimuth]

Memo to myself.... I should know better than waste my time posting in god swill bible babble threads starring my good buddy BADecker.




 

[BADecker]

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The accuracy of the Bible isn't the important thing. .....

Agreed. And since I've had a couple, I'm gonna bite .....( just like old times bud!)

Who needs accuracy in silly tales about a magic invisible, almighty sky daddy, talking snakes, and a giant arc, floating around in some
mythical world flood with two of every species of animal (even dinosaurs!... lol) onboard, written and made up by ignorant goat herders 2000 years ago?
I mean I find it fantastical that adults of normal intelligence still believe in that nonsense.
My 13 year old stopped believing in Santa Claus, which is a far more plausible story (though still ridiculous) when she turned ten.

The important thing is to have enough smarts to recognize that God exists, simply by looking at nature.

The second thing is to believe that He is talking to you through the words of the Bible.

You do realize that you are not making any counter arguments that destroy his, thus making his statements stands.

Ergo, it shows that you can't even barely defend the "bible" from his logics.

I'm not God. This means that I don't want to destroy your arguments, or seriousmouth's.

For your and his benefit, I bring up the points of what will happen, as written and shown in the Old Testament of the Bible. It's not really my idea to destroy what you two say. It's to give you an opportunity to change your ways as you live life in the view of God. I won't destroy you. But God will if you don't change.

Does it hurt my feelings that you won't take warning? A little, maybe. Eternity is a long time. We need all the companionship that we can get, just to keep each other in joy rather than loneliness while there. But if you are going to obstinately continue in your Godless ways, who would want you with us in Heaven? Certainly not I. And God wouldn't, either.

The way you are, it isn't even nice knowing you for a little while here. But I'm not the one you will have to answer to. So, enjoy yourselves mocking God. It's all the enjoyment you will get. And it will only last the hundred years, or so, that you might live in this life. Then Hell, for eternity.

So, change, and live an eternal life of love and joy with God and us in Heaven, rather than existing in pain in Hell for all eternity.

[sirazimuth]

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So, change, and live an eternal life of love and joy with God and us in Heaven, .....

Living with you and your imaginary friend for eternity!??
Good lord!! Just thinking of that makes me cringe.
It certainly doesn't sound like anything I'd be remotely interested in, thank you.

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....., rather than existing in pain in Hell for all eternity.

Well, that's no worse than option 1 really...


Hey bud, that reminds me, I got a great jesus joke! (on topic because its Why I'm an atheist...)

So Jesus walks into a bar. He gives the bartender 3 nails
 and asks  “Can you put me up for the night?”.....

(alternate punchline...        ...and says "I want to get hammered")

pada boom, pshhhh.................

[Trading]

I just need to open this thread to start laughing. From the things I read from the believers, but also from the non-believers.

I already wrote that Christians walking around with crosses with Jesus nailed is to the very least disrespectful. People were burned alive or dug from the grave and burned after dead for much less than that.

Believers have more reasons to become atheist.

Science says they will sleep better, without the need to constantly having nightmares, thinking on burning on hell because of using a condom.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/08/200828204948.htm
https://neurosciencenews.com/atheists-sleep-16926/

[BADecker]

I just need to open this thread to start laughing. From the things I read from the believers, but also from the non-believers.

I already wrote that Christians walking around with crosses with Jesus nailed is to the very least disrespectful. People were burned alive or dug from the grave and burned after dead for much less than that.

Believers have more reasons to become atheist.

Science says they will sleep better, without the need to be constantly having nightmares, thinking on burning on hell because of using a condom.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/08/200828204948.htm
https://neurosciencenews.com/atheists-sleep-16926/

But you forgot the part that Jesus arose from death.

If you have a little scientist in you, you know that body systems are extremely complex in operation. In fact, they are so complex that they couldn't have happened by evolution, and anybody who believes evolution simply has a religion.

In addition, we take all our machines from the machines in nature. Machines have makers. So, if you don't like the idea of God, you must stay away from the subject as much as you can. But here you are, admitting to the existence and power of God while trying to suggest that God doesn't exist.

Do you really think that keeping your mind so muddled is going to keep God from seeing what you are really about?

[Trading]

Your posts are doing a very valued service for Atheism, brave soldier of god. Thanks, I had to give you a merit!!

I know this isn't your intention, but I guess what you wrote is your best. If god existed, he couldn't ask more from you.

From your signature, I suppose you refused to be vaccinated. If you didn't catch it already, I wish you the best when you catch Sars 2. Which, you say, isn't evolving; but with Delta, every unvaccinated will catch it.

One thing is playing the faithful one, posting on a forum. Another is playing with your health against Science.

Don't put your hopes on the "good lord". According to believers, he was the one who created this. Nonetheless, disgracefully and very unfairly, "his creation" don't discriminate the "good, faithful, people".

It seems the "house of lord" is one of the main sources of contagious: people are near each other, don't use masks and sing loud.

Astonishingly, they get infected, and some end up dying, praising the "good lord".

https://www.npr.org/2021/08/29/1031660679/unvaccinated-pastor-who-almost-died-of-covid-now-preaches-the-importance-of-vacc
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/6-unvaccinated-florida-church-members-die-covid-within-10-days-n1276322

[BADecker]

Your posts are doing a very valued service for Atheism, brave soldier of god. Thanks, I had to give you a merit!!

I know this isn't your intention, but I guess what you wrote is your best. If god existed, he couldn't ask more from you.

From your signature, I suppose you refused to be vaccinated. If you didn't catch it already, I wish you the best when you catch Sars 2. Which, you say, isn't evolving; but with Delta, every unvaccinated will catch it.

One thing is playing the faithful one, posting on a forum. Another is playing with your health against Science.

Don't put your hopes on the "good lord". According to believers, he was the one who created this. Nonetheless, disgracefully and very unfairly, "his creation" don't discriminate the "good, faithful, people".

It seems the "house of lord" is one of the main sources of contagious: people are near each other, don't use masks and sing loud.

Astonishingly, they get infected, and some end up dying, praising the "good lord".

https://www.npr.org/2021/08/29/1031660679/unvaccinated-pastor-who-almost-died-of-covid-now-preaches-the-importance-of-vacc
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/6-unvaccinated-florida-church-members-die-covid-within-10-days-n1276322

If that's me you are talking about, thanks for the merit.

When I die praising the Lord, I will be with Him in glory and joy forever.

When you die praising NPR and NBC, you will praise the Lord in the resurrection for giving you what you inadvertently asked of Him... Hell. Why will you praise Him for giving you Hell? Because you will realize how wonderful and honorable He is toward you and all unbelievers, for NOT giving you as much punishment as you deserve.

[hornetsnest]

  "Don't sit with scoffers lest you be devoured". "Don't cast your pearls before swine". "Don't give the bread that belongs to the children to the dogs". An atheist who won't believe will suddenly believe when he finds himself facing the depths of hell but to save many the bother hell will soon be paying another visit to earth.

[af_newbie]

"Don't sit with scoffers lest you be devoured". "Don't cast your pearls before swine". "Don't give the bread that belongs to the children to the dogs". An atheist who won't believe will suddenly believe when he finds himself facing the depths of hell but to save many the bother hell will soon be paying another visit to earth.

Where do you think hell is?

[Trading]

Your posts are doing a very valued service for Atheism, brave soldier of god. Thanks, I had to give you a merit!!

I know this isn't your intention, but I guess what you wrote is your best. If god existed, he couldn't ask more from you.

From your signature, I suppose you refused to be vaccinated. If you didn't catch it already, I wish you the best when you catch Sars 2. Which, you say, isn't evolving; but with Delta, every unvaccinated will catch it.

One thing is playing the faithful one, posting on a forum. Another is playing with your health against Science.

Don't put your hopes on the "good lord". According to believers, he was the one who created this. Nonetheless, disgracefully and very unfairly, "his creation" don't discriminate the "good, faithful, people".

It seems the "house of lord" is one of the main sources of contagious: people are near each other, don't use masks and sing loud.

Astonishingly, they get infected, and some end up dying, praising the "good lord".

https://www.npr.org/2021/08/29/1031660679/unvaccinated-pastor-who-almost-died-of-covid-now-preaches-the-importance-of-vacc
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/6-unvaccinated-florida-church-members-die-covid-within-10-days-n1276322

If that's me you are talking about, thanks for the merit.

When I die praising the Lord, I will be with Him in glory and joy forever.

When you die praising NPR and NBC, you will praise the Lord in the resurrection for giving you what you inadvertently asked of Him... Hell. Why will you praise Him for giving you Hell? Because you will realize how wonderful and honorable He is toward you and all unbelievers, for NOT giving you as much punishment as you deserve.

Yes, brave soldier of god, I was talking with you. Don't mention the merit, it's very well deserved!

You are so good promoting atheism with the incredible things you write, that I wonder if you won't burn in hell with me.

However, don't be afraid, "the good lord", allegedly, is also omniscient and should know that you indeed were trying to promote Christianity and not Atheism. No matter if all common mortals reading you think otherwise.

Too bad he doesn't seem to exist and we all will be rotting a few feet under ground, here on Earth, forever and ever...

Now, seriously, get vaccinated, don't play with your health.

[hornetsnest]

"Don't sit with scoffers lest you be devoured". "Don't cast your pearls before swine". "Don't give the bread that belongs to the children to the dogs". An atheist who won't believe will suddenly believe when he finds himself facing the depths of hell but to save many the bother hell will soon be paying another visit to earth.

Where do you think hell is?

You may find out one day but I genuinely hope you never do. The very bowels of the earth you live upon. If hell can be contained within the bowels of the earth in caverns of darkness while the earth further within contain a lake of fire and the earth itself is like a grain of sand among the spheres of the Heavens have you any idea how infinite they are and how insignificant we are? You cannot hear sound outside the earth yet light will travel freely through the darkness. When your soul departs your mortal body at your appointed time of death you will understand in far better ways I could possibly even try to explain to you. Sounds cannot be heard from hell but only by those within it however even light can even travel through the darkness of hell and those who see it should flee to it. Mock at your own expense if you wish but you have asked the question and I have no reason to lie or make up foolish tales that make me look like a ridiculous loon in front of the readers here (Yes I already know the things I am saying make me sound like a crazy person to the average reader and I don't enjoy being laughed at but such is life  )


First torture that constitutes hell - is the loss of God;

Second torture - is perpetual remorse of conscience;

Third torture - is that one's condition will never change;

Fourth torture - is the fire that will penetrate the soul without destroying it - a terrible suffering, since it is a purely spiritual fire, lit by God's anger;

Fifth torture - is continual darkness and a terrible suffocating smell, and, despite the darkness, the devils and the souls of the damned see each other and all the evil, both of others and their own;

Sixth torture - is the constant company of Satan;

Seventh torture - is horrible despair, hatred of God, vile words, curses and blasphemies.

These are the tortures suffered by all the damned together, but that is not the end of the sufferings. There are special tortures destined for particular souls. These are the torments of the senses. Each soul undergoes terrible and indescribable sufferings, related to the manner in which it has sinned. There are caverns and pits of torture where one form of agony differs from another...Let the sinner know that he will be tortured throughout all eternity, in those senses which he made use of to sin. I am writing this at the command of God, so that no soul may find an excuse by saying there is no hell, or that nobody has ever been there, and so no one an say what it is like."

[Wakate]

You have written much which I thinks is not that necessary because it doesn't call for contention and stating your reasons is not that bad but okey for me and I'm not here to judge or blame you for choosing your own decision. Life is full of ups and downs  and what moved you to write all these call for obvious scrutiny. No one would force you to believe in God but if you think that believing in God which is always preached by religious people is wrong or unnecessary, then its your own path and no one should question you for that. We all have the liberty to make choices whether it's the right one or not, life is not fair in general.

Conclusion: The burden of proof is on the believers' side, since they are who argue for a positive thing: the existence of a mysterious higher being. Since they clearly didn't fulfill this burden, I can conclude that I don't believe in the existence of god.

This is really wonderful and full of juvenile. Based on all your proof and ideas you have tabled down, I would want you to drop those points away and have a refresh mind about religion, although region is somehow confusing and full of good and bad influencers especially in this widely accepted regions. Region should no be seen as a bias to the society but an enlightment that can draw one closer to third creature. In case you still don't give a fuck about Christianity, then follow your path cause we'll have the freedom.

[BADecker]

Your posts are doing a very valued service for Atheism, brave soldier of god. Thanks, I had to give you a merit!!

I know this isn't your intention, but I guess what you wrote is your best. If god existed, he couldn't ask more from you.

From your signature, I suppose you refused to be vaccinated. If you didn't catch it already, I wish you the best when you catch Sars 2. Which, you say, isn't evolving; but with Delta, every unvaccinated will catch it.

One thing is playing the faithful one, posting on a forum. Another is playing with your health against Science.

Don't put your hopes on the "good lord". According to believers, he was the one who created this. Nonetheless, disgracefully and very unfairly, "his creation" don't discriminate the "good, faithful, people".

It seems the "house of lord" is one of the main sources of contagious: people are near each other, don't use masks and sing loud.

Astonishingly, they get infected, and some end up dying, praising the "good lord".

https://www.npr.org/2021/08/29/1031660679/unvaccinated-pastor-who-almost-died-of-covid-now-preaches-the-importance-of-vacc
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/6-unvaccinated-florida-church-members-die-covid-within-10-days-n1276322

If that's me you are talking about, thanks for the merit.

When I die praising the Lord, I will be with Him in glory and joy forever.

When you die praising NPR and NBC, you will praise the Lord in the resurrection for giving you what you inadvertently asked of Him... Hell. Why will you praise Him for giving you Hell? Because you will realize how wonderful and honorable He is toward you and all unbelievers, for NOT giving you as much punishment as you deserve.

Yes, brave soldier of god, I was talking with you. Don't mention the merit, it's very well deserved!

You are so good promoting atheism with the incredible things you write, that I wonder if you won't burn in hell with me.

However, don't be afraid, "the good lord", allegedly, is also omniscient and should know that you indeed were trying to promote Christianity and not Atheism. No matter if all common mortals reading you think otherwise.

Too bad he doesn't seem to exist and we all will be rotting a few feet under ground, here on Earth, forever and ever...

Now, seriously, get vaccinated, don't play with your health.

Seems that you focused on clever words, and ignored the complexities of nature around yourself... nature and complexity that only someone that matches the definition of 'God Almighty' could make.

Your strength in doing this only proves God more. For if you think yourself so strong that you can so easily dismiss God, then you are actually setting yourself up as god. So, you don't have atheism either way.

[Gosgosking]

Why I love athiest they so much believe in their self

[BADecker]

Why I love athiest they so much believe in their self

But not enough. They die without the promise of the resurrection... that Christians have. After all, even the Bible says - at least twice - that we are gods if the Word of God comes to us.

[af_newbie]

"Don't sit with scoffers lest you be devoured". "Don't cast your pearls before swine". "Don't give the bread that belongs to the children to the dogs". An atheist who won't believe will suddenly believe when he finds himself facing the depths of hell but to save many the bother hell will soon be paying another visit to earth.

Where do you think hell is?

You may find out one day but I genuinely hope you never do. The very bowels of the earth you live upon. If hell can be contained within the bowels of the earth in caverns of darkness while the earth further within contain a lake of fire and the earth itself is like a grain of sand among the spheres of the Heavens have you any idea how infinite they are and how insignificant we are? You cannot hear sound outside the earth yet light will travel freely through the darkness. When your soul departs your mortal body at your appointed time of death you will understand in far better ways I could possibly even try to explain to you. Sounds cannot be heard from hell but only by those within it however even light can even travel through the darkness of hell and those who see it should flee to it. Mock at your own expense if you wish but you have asked the question and I have no reason to lie or make up foolish tales that make me look like a ridiculous loon in front of the readers here (Yes I already know the things I am saying make me sound like a crazy person to the average reader and I don't enjoy being laughed at but such is life  )


First torture that constitutes hell - is the loss of God;

Second torture - is perpetual remorse of conscience;

Third torture - is that one's condition will never change;

Fourth torture - is the fire that will penetrate the soul without destroying it - a terrible suffering, since it is a purely spiritual fire, lit by God's anger;

Fifth torture - is continual darkness and a terrible suffocating smell, and, despite the darkness, the devils and the souls of the damned see each other and all the evil, both of others and their own;

Sixth torture - is the constant company of Satan;

Seventh torture - is horrible despair, hatred of God, vile words, curses and blasphemies.

These are the tortures suffered by all the damned together, but that is not the end of the sufferings. There are special tortures destined for particular souls. These are the torments of the senses. Each soul undergoes terrible and indescribable sufferings, related to the manner in which it has sinned. There are caverns and pits of torture where one form of agony differs from another...Let the sinner know that he will be tortured throughout all eternity, in those senses which he made use of to sin. I am writing this at the command of God, so that no soul may find an excuse by saying there is no hell, or that nobody has ever been there, and so no one an say what it is like."

You are just mad.  You cannot survive inside Earth.  As for 'lakes of fire', where would the steady source of oxygen come from? LOL.
Does hell have in/out ventilation to the surface?

BTW, the proteins in your body would denature at about 42 degrees Celsius.  Never mind the pressures and temperatures below the surface.

The temperature alone would increase by 25 degrees Celsius per kilometer of depth.
https://energyeducation.ca/encyclopedia/Geothermal_gradient

BTW, what is the soul made of?

[hornetsnest]

You are just mad.  You cannot survive inside Earth.  As for 'lakes of fire', where would the steady source of oxygen come from? LOL.
Does hell have in/out ventilation to the surface?

Yes the earth convulses or "vents" and volcanoes erupt and the earthquakes happen in many places.Don't assume it would be oxygen that causes the earth to convulse either. The Earth gets hotter as one travels towards the core, known as the geothermal gradient.The composition of Earth's core remains a mystery but yes as a lake is flat on the surface to your eyes on earth such will be the lake of fire within it.

BTW, the proteins in your body would denature at about 42 degrees Celsius.  Never mind the pressures and temperatures below the surface.
The temperature alone would increase by 25 degrees Celsius per kilometer of depth.
https://energyeducation.ca/encyclopedia/Geothermal_gradient

Irrelevant-Refer to point regarding your soul below

BTW, what is the soul made of?

The soul is not made of flesh. It is the individual spirit that is placed within your flesh vessel . It's what makes you "YOU" and not the person standing next to you.




I can see by your tone that no answer will be enough but lead to another question so I will leave it to the very God you question to answer you in full one day in a way better than my limited ability can but maybe Hebrews Chapter 10 will help your understanding of God's mercy.......all the way to verse 31 please.

[af_newbie]

You are just mad.  You cannot survive inside Earth.  As for 'lakes of fire', where would the steady source of oxygen come from? LOL.
Does hell have in/out ventilation to the surface?

Yes the earth convulses or "vents" and volcanoes erupt and the earthquakes happen in many places.Don't assume it would be oxygen that causes the earth to convulse either. The Earth gets hotter as one travels towards the core, known as the geothermal gradient.The composition of Earth's core remains a mystery but yes as a lake is flat on the surface to your eyes on earth such will be the lake of fire within it.

BTW, the proteins in your body would denature at about 42 degrees Celsius.  Never mind the pressures and temperatures below the surface.
The temperature alone would increase by 25 degrees Celsius per kilometer of depth.
https://energyeducation.ca/encyclopedia/Geothermal_gradient

Irrelevant-Refer to point regarding your soul below

BTW, what is the soul made of?

The soul is not made of flesh. It is the individual spirit that is placed within your flesh vessel . It's what makes you "YOU" and not the person standing next to you.




I can see by your tone that no answer will be enough but lead to another question so I will leave it to the very God you question to answer you in full one day in a way better than my limited ability can but maybe Hebrews Chapter 10 will help your understanding of God's mercy.......all the way to verse 31 please.

Fire needs oxygen.  It is really an oxidation reaction.  For the 'lakes of fire' to have a fire, you (God/Satan or whoever is managing the place) would need to supply oxygen and remove CO2.  This idea is as idiotic as the rest of the Bible.  Please stop and read a chemistry textbook.

What is the soul made of? (ROFL)

Hint: We know the exact composition of the human body.

[philipma1957]

I just need to open this thread to start laughing. From the things I read from the believers, but also from the non-believers.

I already wrote that Christians walking around with crosses with Jesus nailed is to the very least disrespectful. People were burned alive or dug from the grave and burned after dead for much less than that.

Believers have more reasons to become atheist.

Science says they will sleep better, without the need to constantly having nightmares, thinking on burning on hell because of using a condom.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/08/200828204948.htm
https://neurosciencenews.com/atheists-sleep-16926/

My position is all atheists are religious fanatics that choose to believe in nothing. Totally as fucked up as religious beliefs.

The reality is we are simply too stupid to know what the fuck is happening and agnosticism is the only sane way to be.

Btw if you a true agnostic you can switch to either god belief or nothing belief when and if they are correctly and accurately described to you by the universe.

I was raised a roman catholic grades k to 8 a total of nine years of training.

I have come to realize I have zero need to believe in things i do not understand or know.

ie God or nothing.

For me good friends and kindness to people when possible are my goals while I live here on earth 🌏.
 whats next don’t know don’t care I will deal with it when it happens.

[BADecker]

I just need to open this thread to start laughing. From the things I read from the believers, but also from the non-believers.

I already wrote that Christians walking around with crosses with Jesus nailed is to the very least disrespectful. People were burned alive or dug from the grave and burned after dead for much less than that.

Believers have more reasons to become atheist.

Science says they will sleep better, without the need to constantly having nightmares, thinking on burning on hell because of using a condom.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/08/200828204948.htm
https://neurosciencenews.com/atheists-sleep-16926/

My position is all atheists are religious fanatics that choose to believe in nothing. Totally as fucked up as religious beliefs.

The reality is we are simply too stupid to know what the fuck is happening and agnosticism is the only sane way to be.

Btw if you a true agnostic you can switch to either god belief or nothing belief when and if they are correctly and accurately described to you by the universe.

I was raised a roman catholic grades k to 8 a total of nine years of training.

I have come to realize I have zero need to believe in things i do not understand or know.

ie God or nothing.

For me good friends and kindness to people when possible are my goals while I live here on earth 🌏.
 whats next don’t know don’t care I will deal with it when it happens.

Believing and not believing are equally strong, since not believing is really believing in a different direction. Since you don't really understand or know yourself, you just might believe yourself right out of existence.