Why I'm an atheist

[Trading]

Your posts are doing a very valued service for Atheism, brave soldier of god. Thanks, I had to give you a merit!!

I know this isn't your intention, but I guess what you wrote is your best. If god existed, he couldn't ask more from you.

From your signature, I suppose you refused to be vaccinated. If you didn't catch it already, I wish you the best when you catch Sars 2. Which, you say, isn't evolving; but with Delta, every unvaccinated will catch it.

One thing is playing the faithful one, posting on a forum. Another is playing with your health against Science.

Don't put your hopes on the "good lord". According to believers, he was the one who created this. Nonetheless, disgracefully and very unfairly, "his creation" don't discriminate the "good, faithful, people".

It seems the "house of lord" is one of the main sources of contagious: people are near each other, don't use masks and sing loud.

Astonishingly, they get infected, and some end up dying, praising the "good lord".

https://www.npr.org/2021/08/29/1031660679/unvaccinated-pastor-who-almost-died-of-covid-now-preaches-the-importance-of-vacc
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/6-unvaccinated-florida-church-members-die-covid-within-10-days-n1276322

[BADecker]

Your posts are doing a very valued service for Atheism, brave soldier of god. Thanks, I had to give you a merit!!

I know this isn't your intention, but I guess what you wrote is your best. If god existed, he couldn't ask more from you.

From your signature, I suppose you refused to be vaccinated. If you didn't catch it already, I wish you the best when you catch Sars 2. Which, you say, isn't evolving; but with Delta, every unvaccinated will catch it.

One thing is playing the faithful one, posting on a forum. Another is playing with your health against Science.

Don't put your hopes on the "good lord". According to believers, he was the one who created this. Nonetheless, disgracefully and very unfairly, "his creation" don't discriminate the "good, faithful, people".

It seems the "house of lord" is one of the main sources of contagious: people are near each other, don't use masks and sing loud.

Astonishingly, they get infected, and some end up dying, praising the "good lord".

https://www.npr.org/2021/08/29/1031660679/unvaccinated-pastor-who-almost-died-of-covid-now-preaches-the-importance-of-vacc
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/6-unvaccinated-florida-church-members-die-covid-within-10-days-n1276322

If that's me you are talking about, thanks for the merit.

When I die praising the Lord, I will be with Him in glory and joy forever.

When you die praising NPR and NBC, you will praise the Lord in the resurrection for giving you what you inadvertently asked of Him... Hell. Why will you praise Him for giving you Hell? Because you will realize how wonderful and honorable He is toward you and all unbelievers, for NOT giving you as much punishment as you deserve.

[hornetsnest]

  "Don't sit with scoffers lest you be devoured". "Don't cast your pearls before swine". "Don't give the bread that belongs to the children to the dogs". An atheist who won't believe will suddenly believe when he finds himself facing the depths of hell but to save many the bother hell will soon be paying another visit to earth.

[Trading]

Your posts are doing a very valued service for Atheism, brave soldier of god. Thanks, I had to give you a merit!!

I know this isn't your intention, but I guess what you wrote is your best. If god existed, he couldn't ask more from you.

From your signature, I suppose you refused to be vaccinated. If you didn't catch it already, I wish you the best when you catch Sars 2. Which, you say, isn't evolving; but with Delta, every unvaccinated will catch it.

One thing is playing the faithful one, posting on a forum. Another is playing with your health against Science.

Don't put your hopes on the "good lord". According to believers, he was the one who created this. Nonetheless, disgracefully and very unfairly, "his creation" don't discriminate the "good, faithful, people".

It seems the "house of lord" is one of the main sources of contagious: people are near each other, don't use masks and sing loud.

Astonishingly, they get infected, and some end up dying, praising the "good lord".

https://www.npr.org/2021/08/29/1031660679/unvaccinated-pastor-who-almost-died-of-covid-now-preaches-the-importance-of-vacc
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/6-unvaccinated-florida-church-members-die-covid-within-10-days-n1276322

If that's me you are talking about, thanks for the merit.

When I die praising the Lord, I will be with Him in glory and joy forever.

When you die praising NPR and NBC, you will praise the Lord in the resurrection for giving you what you inadvertently asked of Him... Hell. Why will you praise Him for giving you Hell? Because you will realize how wonderful and honorable He is toward you and all unbelievers, for NOT giving you as much punishment as you deserve.

Yes, brave soldier of god, I was talking with you. Don't mention the merit, it's very well deserved!

You are so good promoting atheism with the incredible things you write, that I wonder if you won't burn in hell with me.

However, don't be afraid, "the good lord", allegedly, is also omniscient and should know that you indeed were trying to promote Christianity and not Atheism. No matter if all common mortals reading you think otherwise.

Too bad he doesn't seem to exist and we all will be rotting a few feet under ground, here on Earth, forever and ever...

Now, seriously, get vaccinated, don't play with your health.

[hornetsnest]

"Don't sit with scoffers lest you be devoured". "Don't cast your pearls before swine". "Don't give the bread that belongs to the children to the dogs". An atheist who won't believe will suddenly believe when he finds himself facing the depths of hell but to save many the bother hell will soon be paying another visit to earth.

Where do you think hell is?

You may find out one day but I genuinely hope you never do. The very bowels of the earth you live upon. If hell can be contained within the bowels of the earth in caverns of darkness while the earth further within contain a lake of fire and the earth itself is like a grain of sand among the spheres of the Heavens have you any idea how infinite they are and how insignificant we are? You cannot hear sound outside the earth yet light will travel freely through the darkness. When your soul departs your mortal body at your appointed time of death you will understand in far better ways I could possibly even try to explain to you. Sounds cannot be heard from hell but only by those within it however even light can even travel through the darkness of hell and those who see it should flee to it. Mock at your own expense if you wish but you have asked the question and I have no reason to lie or make up foolish tales that make me look like a ridiculous loon in front of the readers here (Yes I already know the things I am saying make me sound like a crazy person to the average reader and I don't enjoy being laughed at but such is life  )


First torture that constitutes hell - is the loss of God;

Second torture - is perpetual remorse of conscience;

Third torture - is that one's condition will never change;

Fourth torture - is the fire that will penetrate the soul without destroying it - a terrible suffering, since it is a purely spiritual fire, lit by God's anger;

Fifth torture - is continual darkness and a terrible suffocating smell, and, despite the darkness, the devils and the souls of the damned see each other and all the evil, both of others and their own;

Sixth torture - is the constant company of Satan;

Seventh torture - is horrible despair, hatred of God, vile words, curses and blasphemies.

These are the tortures suffered by all the damned together, but that is not the end of the sufferings. There are special tortures destined for particular souls. These are the torments of the senses. Each soul undergoes terrible and indescribable sufferings, related to the manner in which it has sinned. There are caverns and pits of torture where one form of agony differs from another...Let the sinner know that he will be tortured throughout all eternity, in those senses which he made use of to sin. I am writing this at the command of God, so that no soul may find an excuse by saying there is no hell, or that nobody has ever been there, and so no one an say what it is like."

[Wakate]

You have written much which I thinks is not that necessary because it doesn't call for contention and stating your reasons is not that bad but okey for me and I'm not here to judge or blame you for choosing your own decision. Life is full of ups and downs  and what moved you to write all these call for obvious scrutiny. No one would force you to believe in God but if you think that believing in God which is always preached by religious people is wrong or unnecessary, then its your own path and no one should question you for that. We all have the liberty to make choices whether it's the right one or not, life is not fair in general.

Conclusion: The burden of proof is on the believers' side, since they are who argue for a positive thing: the existence of a mysterious higher being. Since they clearly didn't fulfill this burden, I can conclude that I don't believe in the existence of god.

This is really wonderful and full of juvenile. Based on all your proof and ideas you have tabled down, I would want you to drop those points away and have a refresh mind about religion, although region is somehow confusing and full of good and bad influencers especially in this widely accepted regions. Region should no be seen as a bias to the society but an enlightment that can draw one closer to third creature. In case you still don't give a fuck about Christianity, then follow your path cause we'll have the freedom.

[BADecker]

Your posts are doing a very valued service for Atheism, brave soldier of god. Thanks, I had to give you a merit!!

I know this isn't your intention, but I guess what you wrote is your best. If god existed, he couldn't ask more from you.

From your signature, I suppose you refused to be vaccinated. If you didn't catch it already, I wish you the best when you catch Sars 2. Which, you say, isn't evolving; but with Delta, every unvaccinated will catch it.

One thing is playing the faithful one, posting on a forum. Another is playing with your health against Science.

Don't put your hopes on the "good lord". According to believers, he was the one who created this. Nonetheless, disgracefully and very unfairly, "his creation" don't discriminate the "good, faithful, people".

It seems the "house of lord" is one of the main sources of contagious: people are near each other, don't use masks and sing loud.

Astonishingly, they get infected, and some end up dying, praising the "good lord".

https://www.npr.org/2021/08/29/1031660679/unvaccinated-pastor-who-almost-died-of-covid-now-preaches-the-importance-of-vacc
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/6-unvaccinated-florida-church-members-die-covid-within-10-days-n1276322

If that's me you are talking about, thanks for the merit.

When I die praising the Lord, I will be with Him in glory and joy forever.

When you die praising NPR and NBC, you will praise the Lord in the resurrection for giving you what you inadvertently asked of Him... Hell. Why will you praise Him for giving you Hell? Because you will realize how wonderful and honorable He is toward you and all unbelievers, for NOT giving you as much punishment as you deserve.

Yes, brave soldier of god, I was talking with you. Don't mention the merit, it's very well deserved!

You are so good promoting atheism with the incredible things you write, that I wonder if you won't burn in hell with me.

However, don't be afraid, "the good lord", allegedly, is also omniscient and should know that you indeed were trying to promote Christianity and not Atheism. No matter if all common mortals reading you think otherwise.

Too bad he doesn't seem to exist and we all will be rotting a few feet under ground, here on Earth, forever and ever...

Now, seriously, get vaccinated, don't play with your health.

Seems that you focused on clever words, and ignored the complexities of nature around yourself... nature and complexity that only someone that matches the definition of 'God Almighty' could make.

Your strength in doing this only proves God more. For if you think yourself so strong that you can so easily dismiss God, then you are actually setting yourself up as god. So, you don't have atheism either way.

[Gosgosking]

Why I love athiest they so much believe in their self

[BADecker]

Why I love athiest they so much believe in their self

But not enough. They die without the promise of the resurrection... that Christians have. After all, even the Bible says - at least twice - that we are gods if the Word of God comes to us.

[hornetsnest]

You are just mad.  You cannot survive inside Earth.  As for 'lakes of fire', where would the steady source of oxygen come from? LOL.
Does hell have in/out ventilation to the surface?

Yes the earth convulses or "vents" and volcanoes erupt and the earthquakes happen in many places.Don't assume it would be oxygen that causes the earth to convulse either. The Earth gets hotter as one travels towards the core, known as the geothermal gradient.The composition of Earth's core remains a mystery but yes as a lake is flat on the surface to your eyes on earth such will be the lake of fire within it.

BTW, the proteins in your body would denature at about 42 degrees Celsius.  Never mind the pressures and temperatures below the surface.
The temperature alone would increase by 25 degrees Celsius per kilometer of depth.
https://energyeducation.ca/encyclopedia/Geothermal_gradient

Irrelevant-Refer to point regarding your soul below

BTW, what is the soul made of?

The soul is not made of flesh. It is the individual spirit that is placed within your flesh vessel . It's what makes you "YOU" and not the person standing next to you.




I can see by your tone that no answer will be enough but lead to another question so I will leave it to the very God you question to answer you in full one day in a way better than my limited ability can but maybe Hebrews Chapter 10 will help your understanding of God's mercy.......all the way to verse 31 please.

[philipma1957]

I just need to open this thread to start laughing. From the things I read from the believers, but also from the non-believers.

I already wrote that Christians walking around with crosses with Jesus nailed is to the very least disrespectful. People were burned alive or dug from the grave and burned after dead for much less than that.

Believers have more reasons to become atheist.

Science says they will sleep better, without the need to constantly having nightmares, thinking on burning on hell because of using a condom.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/08/200828204948.htm
https://neurosciencenews.com/atheists-sleep-16926/

My position is all atheists are religious fanatics that choose to believe in nothing. Totally as fucked up as religious beliefs.

The reality is we are simply too stupid to know what the fuck is happening and agnosticism is the only sane way to be.

Btw if you a true agnostic you can switch to either god belief or nothing belief when and if they are correctly and accurately described to you by the universe.

I was raised a roman catholic grades k to 8 a total of nine years of training.

I have come to realize I have zero need to believe in things i do not understand or know.

ie God or nothing.

For me good friends and kindness to people when possible are my goals while I live here on earth 🌏.
 whats next don’t know don’t care I will deal with it when it happens.

[BADecker]

I just need to open this thread to start laughing. From the things I read from the believers, but also from the non-believers.

I already wrote that Christians walking around with crosses with Jesus nailed is to the very least disrespectful. People were burned alive or dug from the grave and burned after dead for much less than that.

Believers have more reasons to become atheist.

Science says they will sleep better, without the need to constantly having nightmares, thinking on burning on hell because of using a condom.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/08/200828204948.htm
https://neurosciencenews.com/atheists-sleep-16926/

My position is all atheists are religious fanatics that choose to believe in nothing. Totally as fucked up as religious beliefs.

The reality is we are simply too stupid to know what the fuck is happening and agnosticism is the only sane way to be.

Btw if you a true agnostic you can switch to either god belief or nothing belief when and if they are correctly and accurately described to you by the universe.

I was raised a roman catholic grades k to 8 a total of nine years of training.

I have come to realize I have zero need to believe in things i do not understand or know.

ie God or nothing.

For me good friends and kindness to people when possible are my goals while I live here on earth 🌏.
 whats next don’t know don’t care I will deal with it when it happens.

Believing and not believing are equally strong, since not believing is really believing in a different direction. Since you don't really understand or know yourself, you just might believe yourself right out of existence.

[cabron]

Just learning that there are lots of gods in India that reach up to 36000 is really amazing. Let's just discount the number of gods of Vikings and Chinese gods. What are they all doing now while the world is on the brink of ww3?

I always remember the words of my father that gods are all made up. just as how the monster wolf he created when he don't want me to go to the woods.
If Jesus is true, are all those who had lived before him, going to hell?

[BADecker]

Just learning that there are lots of gods in India that reach up to 36000 is really amazing. Let's just discount the number of gods of Vikings and Chinese gods. What are they all doing now while the world is on the brink of ww3?

I always remember the words of my father that gods are all made up. just as how the monster wolf he created when he don't want me to go to the woods.
If Jesus is true, are all those who had lived before him, going to hell?

Jesus's work on the cross took care of all sin for all time. His success in rising from the dead is the thing that literally upholds the universe.

The Old Testament of the Bible is the historical examples of what happened when people obeyed God and when they didn't. Jesus is the Son of God. Things of the universe are way different than science wants you to believe.

[BADecker]

Just learning that there are lots of gods in India that reach up to 36000 is really amazing. Let's just discount the number of gods of Vikings and Chinese gods. What are they all doing now while the world is on the brink of ww3?

I always remember the words of my father that gods are all made up. just as how the monster wolf he created when he don't want me to go to the woods.
If Jesus is true, are all those who had lived before him, going to hell?

Jesus's work on the cross took care of all sin for all time. His success in rising from the dead is the thing that literally upholds the universe.

The Old Testament of the Bible is the historical examples of what happened when people obeyed God and when they didn't. Jesus is the Son of God. Things of the universe are way different than science wants you to believe.

When a person is dead, nothing can bring them to life.  It is physically impossible.

The biochemical pathways in our cells cannot function without oxygen. Autolysis starts about 10 minutes after you die.
The breakdown of cell walls and subsequent decomposition is irreversible.

People who wrote the stories about Jesus did not know what planet they were on, never mind the cellular biochemistry.

But remember. We don't know how life came about. The complexity is far greater than any way we can seriously envision a form of evolution to have done it. Since this all came about in ways we don't understand, why are you so certain that it couldn't come about again?

[hornetsnest]

You are just mad.  You cannot survive inside Earth.  As for 'lakes of fire', where would the steady source of oxygen come from? LOL.
Does hell have in/out ventilation to the surface?

Yes the earth convulses or "vents" and volcanoes erupt and the earthquakes happen in many places.Don't assume it would be oxygen that causes the earth to convulse either. The Earth gets hotter as one travels towards the core, known as the geothermal gradient.The composition of Earth's core remains a mystery but yes as a lake is flat on the surface to your eyes on earth such will be the lake of fire within it.

BTW, the proteins in your body would denature at about 42 degrees Celsius.  Never mind the pressures and temperatures below the surface.
The temperature alone would increase by 25 degrees Celsius per kilometer of depth.
https://energyeducation.ca/encyclopedia/Geothermal_gradient

Irrelevant-Refer to point regarding your soul below

BTW, what is the soul made of?

The soul is not made of flesh. It is the individual spirit that is placed within your flesh vessel . It's what makes you "YOU" and not the person standing next to you.




I can see by your tone that no answer will be enough but lead to another question so I will leave it to the very God you question to answer you in full one day in a way better than my limited ability can but maybe Hebrews Chapter 10 will help your understanding of God's mercy.......all the way to verse 31 please.

Fire needs oxygen.  It is really an oxidation reaction.  For the 'lakes of fire' to have a fire, you (God/Satan or whoever is managing the place) would need to supply oxygen and remove CO2.  This idea is as idiotic as the rest of the Bible.  Please stop and read a chemistry textbook.

What is the soul made of? (ROFL)

Hint: We know the exact composition of the human body.

While youre down in the earths core next time bring back a few samples for analysis so we can go through them. I'll just wait here ;-) 

Atheists are the origin of all savagery

[philipma1957]

Just learning that there are lots of gods in India that reach up to 36000 is really amazing. Let's just discount the number of gods of Vikings and Chinese gods. What are they all doing now while the world is on the brink of ww3?

I always remember the words of my father that gods are all made up. just as how the monster wolf he created when he don't want me to go to the woods.
If Jesus is true, are all those who had lived before him, going to hell?

Jesus's work on the cross took care of all sin for all time. His success in rising from the dead is the thing that literally upholds the universe.

The Old Testament of the Bible is the historical examples of what happened when people obeyed God and when they didn't. Jesus is the Son of God. Things of the universe are way different than science wants you to believe.

When a person is dead, nothing can bring them to life.  It is physically impossible.

The biochemical pathways in our cells cannot function without oxygen. Autolysis starts about 10 minutes after you die.
The breakdown of cell walls and subsequent decomposition is irreversible.

People who wrote the stories about Jesus did not know what planet they were on, never mind the cellular biochemistry.

But if you are not really flesh and blood and that you simply were created to think you are that you theory is wrong.

Of course if it is what you see is what you get then the flesh and blood would truly break down. You would be correct at least about the flesh and blood body.

My life's experience has shown me the following:

 the part of existence outside of me can contradict itself and basically do as it pleases.
I can choose to think and believe whatever I want about it.

The inside part of me my mind/soul/whatever can lie at times so well that it can trick me . 

So basically I simply try to be nice to others and not ponder upon these deep thoughts.

[BADecker]

But remember. We don't know how life came about. The complexity is far greater than any way we can seriously envision a form of evolution to have done it. Since this all came about in ways we don't understand, why are you so certain that it couldn't come about again?

True.  We don't know how the first microorganisms formed here on Earth (or were brought to Earth by falling meteorites or asteroids), but everything after that we have very good explanations backed by observable data. - Our ability to observe is very limited. Nobody has seen a virus jump from one person to the next. The idea that people catch disease from each other is a pure assumption. Since science isn't that far into explaining the metaphysical, perhaps viruses and disease are caught metaphysically, by empathy between people. And maybe people get well the same way. So, our observational data that explains most of anything is interpretation and assumption.

Actually, if life on Earth formed rather quickly after Earth was formed, I am pretty confident a similar process might have occurred (is occurring or will occur) elsewhere in the universe. - I like your little "if." If the moon is almost 100% green cheese, and the astronauts just happened to land on the part that is rock, Wisconsin and California cheese-makers would flip their lids... the lids on their cheese-making cauldrons, that is.

As for human bodies, well, sorry, when you are dead, you are food for other organisms.  So you can shelf the story of Jesus as a fairytale for small children.  Sorry to break it to you, as I know your whole worldview is based on it.

But nobody knows enough about the metaphysical to know that your body is you. The idea that your body is you, is a fairy-tale for small children.

Learn about God from the Bible so you can finally begin to understand how things really work.

[sirazimuth]

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My position is all atheists are religious fanatics that choose to believe in nothing. Totally as fucked up as religious beliefs.
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Dude, you are SO wrong.  I'm an atheist ,and I'm not a religious fanatic.  (atheism is not a religion, just like baldness is not a hair color)
I believe in plenty of rational things, like science. Its not fucked up, my friend. Quite the contrary.
You are painting with a broad brush. Put it away.

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The reality is we are simply too stupid to know what the fuck is happening and agnosticism is the only sane way to be.
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I used to be agnostic too. That's just a cop out. I got a clue, got off the fence, stopped being wishy washy, and took a stance.
And btw, maybe you do, but I don't think I'm too I'm stupid too know what's happening. Quite the contrary.

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Btw if you a true agnostic you can switch to either god belief or nothing belief when and if they are correctly and accurately described to you by the universe.
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Is that an order?

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I was raised a roman catholic grades k to 8 a total of nine years of training.
I have come to realize I have zero need to believe in things i do not understand or know.
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Then educate yourself to understand and know the things you don't.

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ie God or nothing.
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Not sure what your point is.

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For me good friends and kindness to people when possible are my goals while I live here on earth 🌏.
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You and me both, my friend.

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whats next don’t know don’t care I will deal with it when it happens.

fair enough.

And to answer the question in the thread title "why I'm an atheist" is quite simple really.
I don't believe in sky fairies and the supernatural. And I'm not "agnostic" about that either.

[Trading]

Christians claim that Jesus raised from the dead after 3 days.

3 days? What a coincidence. How many messiahs and religious figures raised from the dead after 3 days?

This myth was invented because of the Sun.

The Sun stays stationary between 21th and 24th December (for 3 days, the Winter Solstice) and then on 25th December “raises from the dead” and days start to increase in length again. It's because of this that it's a holiday for many pagans.

And it is also the reason why was picked by the church as the Jesus's "birthday".

They claim the resurrection has to be true, because the apostles wouldn’t risk their life for a lie.

Yet, there is no clear support for any organized and hard prosecution. Christians don’t claim that the Roman authorities killed anyone after the death of Jesus. The bible says that only Jesus was arrested.

Romans couldn’t care less for the Christians. No apostle claimed to be the king of the Jews.
According to Acts 18:12-17, the Roman proconsul Gallop dismissed a case against Paul.

Even if we believe the New Testament, there are just a few references to mild/mob prosecution and to the killing of Stephen.

And the apostles had good reasons to lie about the resurrection of Jesus (No way I’m going back to be a fisher again). They already had many followers or the Jewish religious authorities wouldn’t see them as a threat.

There were no more killings until more than 30 years later, under Nero. It’s when Paul and Peter are executed (about 64/68 CE) (he didn’t see that coming: damn, I should have kept being a fisher).

This persecution didn’t last long. There were more than a century of toleration until Marcus Aurelius (161–180).

Christians were much more diligent prosecuting others later, for centuries. "Nobody was expecting the Spanish Inquisition", but...