Why I'm an atheist

[mistereverything]

it's all about principles and virtues that are anthropomorphized into gods and demons 

[hornetsnest]

I'll show you God if you show me the wind

Well said Baldrick

[BADecker]

I'll show you God if you show me the wind

Well said Baldrick

Clever, maybe. But probably not so wise.

17And the Lord said to Moses, “I will do the very thing you have asked, because I am pleased with you and I know you by name.”

18Then Moses said, “Now show me your glory.”

19And the Lord said, “I will cause all my goodness to pass in front of you, and I will proclaim my name, the Lord, in your presence. I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. 20But,” he said, “you cannot see my face, for no one may see me and live.”

21Then the Lord said, “There is a place near me where you may stand on a rock. 22When my glory passes by, I will put you in a cleft in the rock and cover you with my hand until I have passed by. 23Then I will remove my hand and you will see my back; but my face must not be seen.”

[hornetsnest]

Clever, maybe. But probably not so wise.

Ah but who here can show us the wind apart from the Almighty himself?


...meanwhile downtown

The "one-eye" is a symbol of the Illuminati and it represents the “all seeing eye", which is representative of intelligence, wisdom and enlightenment in a worldly, secular or non-Christian understanding of the world. It also is suggestive that the “all seeing eye” see's all and is always watching everyone. It is essentially a symbol of the Illuminati, who practices Luciferian doctrine and worships Satan.

The Illuminati runs and controls most of the music industry and many of the most popular artists in the world and whether they know it or not, are apart of the Illuminati and are crafted and ghost- written by some of the most worldly and secular minds the Illuminati has to offer. These artists are contracted and in return for fame and fortune beyond normal successes are pursuaded and cohersed, unknowingly or knowingly to sing certain messages in their songs as well as sell their souls to the devil for their fame and fortune to be continued to be enabled, supported and allowed to happen. This is not at all a figure of speech, but these artists are literally required to "sell their souls" to the devil in exchange for promoting their ideals amd agenda through music crafted (both vocals and instrumentals) to spiritually influence the minds of people in the world.

If you listen closely to the messages in the music created by these artists, you will hear them engaging and referring to such ideals as the promotion of self interests and indulgences, second personna's or even overt representations and symbolism of the Illuminati and self worship, all of which based on Christian doctrine will lead you directly to Hell. These techniques and the imagery of the “one eye” symbolism are evidence of what the artists represent and are willing to represent publically as a means of conveying their support of the Illuminati and their agenda. Technically, an artist cannot just blindly sell their soul to Satan but have to knowingly and literally sign the contract in their own blood…as a practice artists often publically joke about on talk shows and interviews. For those artists who do not believe in God or Satan and agree to do whatever they are asked to do as apart of their career just to get the fame and fortune, it's all the easier to convince them to “sign their souls” over to Satan, since the artist does not believe in either God or Satan and find signing a contract “in their own blood” to be a cute and entertaining gimmick.

In many numerous music videos, if you pay close attention, you will see the promotion of "one eye", the pyramid or diamond, finger gestures like extending your index and pinky and folding in the rest of your fingers (a traditional and common rock music gesture) or even pictures of baphomet… The half man, half goat icon image that represents Satan. YouTube has a large collection of videos where this imagery is practiced and openly displayed, slowed down and stopped on genuine examples of these practices.

One example would be Wiz Khalifa's song, “Black and Yellow”. In the song, there is a quick scene where a kid wearing a shirt with baphomet on it jumps up and into the camera frame, with another child in the foreground looking directly into the camera throwing the finger gesture for baphomet, all while Wiz Khalifa ironically is throwing up his hands up with what appears to be a gesture of worship. The imagery is disturbing to say the least. Sometimes, you can also play back some music in reverse, discovering and hearing forward played messages also known as "backplay", containing secular or Lucifer worshipping or coded messaging. One example would be from Jay-Z, where he has a song produced by DJ Danger Mouse that is a remake of Jay-Z's song "Lucifer". where Jay-Z himself says things like "Murder Jesus", "Catholics... I got to murder them", and "666". The album that DJ Danger Mouse produced using remakes using instrumentals from The Beatles was ultimately praised by Jay-Z himself. Another example would be a song by Beyonce called "Crazy in Love" and has some filthy messages I can't even repeat in this post. These are just a few examples and the list of goes on and on with many artists in the industry. The Illuminati is essentially primarily pop, rap, hip hop, rock and alternative genres as their primary outlet for their aggressive works, promoting the doctrine of Lucifer or Satan. Check out YouTube for fully documented examples of these things and listen for yourselves.

This is NOT a joke… These practices are very real and I invite you all to learn exactly who the Illuminati is... they are an organization that practices and engages in Luciferian doctrine, control of the masses and the minds of and in this world and they have an end goal which many others people shown through YouTube, blogs and many other outlets can elaborate on for you.

Sounds about right buddy. Any opinion on the tribe of dan though? Speaking of ze Dragon...what say you Dan?
 


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-QfPUz1es8&feature=emb_rel_end

[BADecker]

Clever, maybe. But probably not so wise.

Ah but who here can show us the wind apart from the Almighty himself? For God anything is possible. Even the demons know there is a God and they tremble

Gosh, but you are a little slow today, hornetsnest. The leaves in the trees, and the grasses, show us the wind all the time. The clouds, or the smoke from a cigarette. A woman's skirt, and loads of other things show us the wind.

...meanwhile downtown

The "one-eye" is a symbol of the Illuminati and it represents the “all seeing eye", which is representative of intelligence, wisdom and enlightenment in a worldly, secular or non-Christian understanding of the world. It also is suggestive that the “all seeing eye” see's all and is always watching everyone. It is essentially a symbol of the Illuminati, who practices Luciferian doctrine and worships Satan.

The Illuminati runs and controls most of the music industry and many of the most popular artists in the world and whether they know it or not, are apart of the Illuminati and are crafted and ghost- written by some of the most worldly and secular minds the Illuminati has to offer. These artists are contracted and in return for fame and fortune beyond normal successes are pursuaded and cohersed, unknowingly or knowingly to sing certain messages in their songs as well as sell their souls to the devil for their fame and fortune to be continued to be enabled, supported and allowed to happen. This is not at all a figure of speech, but these artists are literally required to "sell their souls" to the devil in exchange for promoting their ideals amd agenda through music crafted (both vocals and instrumentals) to spiritually influence the minds of people in the world.

If you listen closely to the messages in the music created by these artists, you will hear them engaging and referring to such ideals as the promotion of self interests and indulgences, second personna's or even overt representations and symbolism of the Illuminati and self worship, all of which based on Christian doctrine will lead you directly to Hell. These techniques and the imagery of the “one eye” symbolism are evidence of what the artists represent and are willing to represent publically as a means of conveying their support of the Illuminati and their agenda. Technically, an artist cannot just blindly sell their soul to Satan but have to knowingly and literally sign the contract in their own blood…as a practice artists often publically joke about on talk shows and interviews. For those artists who do not believe in God or Satan and agree to do whatever they are asked to do as apart of their career just to get the fame and fortune, it's all the easier to convince them to “sign their souls” over to Satan, since the artist does not believe in either God or Satan and find signing a contract “in their own blood” to be a cute and entertaining gimmick.

In many numerous music videos, if you pay close attention, you will see the promotion of "one eye", the pyramid or diamond, finger gestures like extending your index and pinky and folding in the rest of your fingers (a traditional and common rock music gesture) or even pictures of baphomet… The half man, half goat icon image that represents Satan. YouTube has a large collection of videos where this imagery is practiced and openly displayed, slowed down and stopped on genuine examples of these practices.

One example would be Wiz Khalifa's song, “Black and Yellow”. In the song, there is a quick scene where a kid wearing a shirt with baphomet on it jumps up and into the camera frame, with another child in the foreground looking directly into the camera throwing the finger gesture for baphomet, all while Wiz Khalifa ironically is throwing up his hands up with what appears to be a gesture of worship. The imagery is disturbing to say the least. Sometimes, you can also play back some music in reverse, discovering and hearing forward played messages also known as "backplay", containing secular or Lucifer worshipping or coded messaging. One example would be from Jay-Z, where he has a song produced by DJ Danger Mouse that is a remake of Jay-Z's song "Lucifer". where Jay-Z himself says things like "Murder Jesus", "Catholics... I got to murder them", and "666". The album that DJ Danger Mouse produced using remakes using instrumentals from The Beatles was ultimately praised by Jay-Z himself. Another example would be a song by Beyonce called "Crazy in Love" and has some filthy messages I can't even repeat in this post. These are just a few examples and the list of goes on and on with many artists in the industry. The Illuminati is essentially primarily pop, rap, hip hop, rock and alternative genres as their primary outlet for their aggressive works, promoting the doctrine of Lucifer or Satan. Check out YouTube for fully documented examples of these things and listen for yourselves.

This is NOT a joke… These practices are very real and I invite you all to learn exactly who the Illuminati is... they are an organization that practices and engages in Luciferian doctrine, control of the masses and the minds of and in this world and they have an end goal which many others people shown through YouTube, blogs and many other outlets can elaborate on for you.

Sounds about right buddy. Any opinion on the tribe of dan though? Speaking of ze Dragon...what say you Dan?
 


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-QfPUz1es8&feature=emb_rel_end

It's not a joke. Rather, it is a lie that couldn't make it on its own. So, it has to come sneaking in a through back door... through a book or two, that were almost lost because of their obscurity, using words to try to make an unreal thing to be real, just like Covid talk, scaring idiot sheeple.

And here you are, promoting it.

[hornetsnest]

Gosh, but you are a little slow today, hornetsnest. The leaves in the trees, and the grasses, show us the wind all the time. The clouds, or the smoke from a cigarette. A woman's skirt, and loads of other things show us the wind.

Nope, you might see its effects on where or what it passes through but you still cannot see the wind.No need to even bring up all that molecular argument either. You still CANNOT see the wind. Even the strongest wind cannot be seen.

It's not a joke. Rather, it is a lie that couldn't make it on its own. So, it has to come sneaking in a through back door... through a book or two, that were almost lost because of their obscurity, using words to try to make an unreal thing to be real, just like Covid talk, scaring idiot sheeple.

And here you are, promoting it.

The reality is that some of the most influential tools on the planet are pushing the narrative created by these "obscure" entities.

Ah I am not promoting at all but if I was then so would you have by default ,albeit unwittingly by because you have just requoted it again in the last post

[BADecker]

Gosh, but you are a little slow today, hornetsnest. The leaves in the trees, and the grasses, show us the wind all the time. The clouds, or the smoke from a cigarette. A woman's skirt, and loads of other things show us the wind.

Nope, you might see its effects on where or what it passes through but you still cannot see the wind.No need to even bring up all that molecular argument either. You still CANNOT see the wind. Even the strongest wind cannot be seen.

Does that bring us to semantics?

Thousands of scientists look out the windows of their labs and say, "Look at the wind blow." Then a few other scientists might correct them with, "That's not the wind you see. That's only things being moved by the wind."

So, what is it? Billions of people around the world lying? Or only the two groups of scientists?

It's the two groups of scientists. Why? They should know, because they are scientists, that nobody sees anything but light. At least average people have not-being-scientists as an excuse. Of course average people might be right, because only a misinformed scientist would think you can see trees, grass, phone wires, clothes on a clothes line, etc., when all you might see is light reflected off them.

The least you could do, hornetsnest, is speed up to stop.

It's not a joke. Rather, it is a lie that couldn't make it on its own. So, it has to come sneaking in a through back door... through a book or two, that were almost lost because of their obscurity, using words to try to make an unreal thing to be real, just like Covid talk, scaring idiot sheeple.

And here you are, promoting it.

The reality is that some of the most influential tools on the planet are pushing the narrative created by these "obscure" entities.

Ah I am not promoting at all but if I was then so would you have by default ,albeit unwittingly by because you have just requoted it again in the last post

But I didn't bring it up on my own at all. If you hadn't, I wouldn't have, except maybe if somebody else did.

So, that brings us to the rest of the semantics, and behind the semantics. The rulers of the world only think they are rulers. If they display ruler power for awhile, it's because God wants to show them and the whole world what puny little people they all are. Then they die and go to their final resting place, many of them cremated... off into the wind they could or couldn't see.

Read the Bible O.T.  It shows what happens to the nations, just as secular history shows. If you are going to talk about those secular books that don't really have any strength, then talk about the Bible so that your listeners know to turn to it and be saved.

[Trading]

Members who write that evolution is an hoax, that the World and the Universe have about 7000 years, that Sars CoV 2 vaccines (which are one of the major achievements of Humankind in medicine) are killers and not saviors, and other astounding things like these, are starting to look like flatearthers.

The worrisome of looking like a flatearther is that anything the person argues in favor of any controversial theory ends up undermining this theory.

No one wants to defend anything controversial defended by a flatearther.

This applies also to religious "theories".

[BADecker]

Members who write that evolution is an hoax, that the World and the Universe have about 7000 years, that Sars CoV 2 vaccines (which are one of the major achievements of Humankind in medicine) are killers and not saviors, and other astounding things like these, are starting to look like flatearthers.

The worrisome of looking like a flatearther is that anything the person argues in favor of any controversial theory ends up undermining this theory.

No one wants to defend anything controversial defended by a flatearther.

This applies also to religious "theories".

Religious flaterthers are defending their religion all the time. So are evolutionists theirs.

Here's one of the big flaws in evolution. Apply it to all of science. It's the flaw of random. For example. If a pool player holds a cue stick in such a way that the cue ball hits another ball just so, a random jiggle of the player's arm could have caused it to do something unexpected. A scientist might have super-high-speed cameras set up to view all the arm jiggles and other things, that might give us a better piece of the picture. If the camera and other equipment are perfect, we don't have random any longer. We KNOW.

Look at evolution theory. Did any scientist take "random" out of it? Random is still there. Why? Because evolutionists and evolution scientists don't KNOW all the mutations involved. There are still RANDOM MUTATIONS! All they know to do is blab. But when you pin them down on it, the honest ones admit it that they don't know.

All the science theories are religions to those who believe them. Why? Because there is always something that is random in them. The random thing(s) might be this way or that way or some other way.

The thing that is the same between flatearther religion, and the religions of other scientists, is that they both have people who say that they KNOW, when they only BELIEVE.

religion
[ ri-lij-uhn ]

noun

- a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs. [Sounds like believers in science theory.]

- a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion. [Sounds like the science religion.]

- the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices: a world council of religions. Sounds like science to me. Look at the two Covid religions (actually more than two), and Fauci talking against good science that has been known for years.]

- the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.: [Scientific qualifications. All those learning technique and rituals, most of which are based on science theory rather than knowledge.]
    to enter religion.

- the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith. [Science, science, science... because they don't really know.]

- something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience: [Here's where the non-scientist fits.]
     to make a religion of fighting prejudice.

Wake up. You're all playing a religion game. Bible religion is more like science, because it scientifically says that it is religion.

[hornetsnest]

Read the Bible O.T.  It shows what happens to the nations, just as secular history shows. If you are going to talk about those secular books that don't really have any strength, then talk about the Bible so that your listeners know to turn to it and be saved.

You still can't see the wind. Like I said. The deVil is real. Hell is real .The One from Nazareth sacrificed on the cross is real. The mark of the "b.e.a.s.t" is real . Mercy or judgement is a choice given. Choose wisely grasshoppers. Now when reVolution as planned and betrayal of all pleb world leaders and academic shills? Well after they have finished provoking the citizenry to revolt and the system built and now to be tested in beta on plebs is ready for the real thing ....only this time without those pesky national governments. You cannot outsmart the deVil. It is best to stock up like a crazy prepper and run to Jesus or his Mother and hide accordingly from what is coming.

~crazy loon hornetsnest

[BADecker]

Read the Bible O.T.  It shows what happens to the nations, just as secular history shows. If you are going to talk about those secular books that don't really have any strength, then talk about the Bible so that your listeners know to turn to it and be saved.

You still can't see the wind. Like I said. The deVil is real. Hell is real .The One from Nazareth sacrificed on the cross is real. The mark of the "b.e.a.s.t" is real . Mercy or judgement is a choice given. Choose wisely grasshoppers. Now when reVolution as planned and betrayal of all pleb world leaders and academic shills? Well after they have finished provoking the citizenry to revolt and the system built and now to be tested in beta on plebs is ready for the real thing ....only this time without those pesky national governments. You cannot outsmart the deVil. It is best to stock up like a crazy prepper and run to Jesus or his Mother and hide accordingly from what is coming.

~crazy loon hornetsnest

Hey, man. The Devil lost when Jesus arose on the 3rd day. Stop trying to see the Prince of the Power of the Air... and start looking at the Light.

[hornetsnest]

Hey, man. The Devil lost when Jesus arose on the 3rd day. Stop trying to see the Prince of the Power of the Air... and start looking at the Light.

Heaven was opened on that day yes but this world is still ran by the man downtown  Ephesians 6:12. Have you ever met him? Jesus will return. Yes I already saw the light ...The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness can never extinguish it.

Time to get right with Jesus

[Trading]

Christians don’t just pretend that Jesus survived the cross thanks to his «immortal soul».

They don’t just believe that he resurrected after three days, like Osiris and others (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dying-and-rising_deity) or the Sun on the 25th December.

They pretend that he ascended to heaven still with his mortal body, flouting up into the sky.

It’s a bird, it’s a plane, it’s Superman, it’s Neo… no, it’s Jesus doing a loop and another risky aerobatic maneuver.

Ergo, on Heaven there are mostly «souls», but people from the family also walk around there in body.

The body is made of matter, flesh and bones, but no problem. It won’t die or decay forever.

It's perplexing that someone can even accept these histories as worthy of consideration.

[BADecker]

Christians don’t just pretend that Jesus survived the cross thanks to his «immortal soul».

They don’t just believe that he resurrected after three days, like Osiris and others (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dying-and-rising_deity) or the Sun on the 25th December.

They pretend that he ascended to heaven still with his mortal body, flouting up into the sky.

It’s a bird, it’s a plane, it’s Superman, it’s Neo… no, it’s Jesus doing a loop and another risky aerobatic maneuver.

Ergo, on Heaven there are mostly «souls», but people from the family also walk around there in body.

The body is made of matter, flesh and bones, but no problem. It won’t die or decay forever.

It's perplexing that someone can even accept these histories as worthy of consideration.

Since this is what's happening, it's amazing that people are mentally strong enough to replace themselves over God in the operation of things. Of course, they are only blinding themselves to the REAL God, and lifting themselves up to the god-position... because they think they want to be in control.

[realcrypto]

This is the most lengthy thread I have ever read since I joined Bitcointalk. You have done justice by analyzing the two most popular religious believe. I personally will not belong to any of those religion if it was only through just reading or listening to the religious leaders teach. I am a Christian, I stick to being a Christian because of my personal enchanters I have with Jesus and the Holy Spirit. I have received healing severally without taking any drugs. The holy spirit guides me by showing me visions of what will happen in the future and they all come to pass.

[BADecker]

This is the most lengthy thread I have ever read since I joined Bitcointalk. You have done justice by analyzing the two most popular religious believe. I personally will not belong to any of those religion if it was only through just reading or listening to the religious leaders teach. I am a Christian, I stick to being a Christian because of my personal enchanters I have with Jesus and the Holy Spirit. I have received healing severally without taking any drugs. The holy spirit guides me by showing me visions of what will happen in the future and they all come to pass.

So, fill yourself on the Bible. It's the only accurate source for Christianity. See you in Heaven.

[Maestro75]

Where is Heaven?

Is that some sort of comic book convention?

Reading the statement at the bottom of your profile where the signature space is and what the conclusion you reached there, am forced to remind you what the holy book talks about in 1 Corinthians 1:27 as how God chooses the foolish things of the world to put the wise to shame. He chooses the weak things of this world to put the powerful to shame. You can read it up. Those who act wise now will always end foolish before God.

[Cnut237]

Where is Heaven?

Is that some sort of comic book convention?

Reading the statement at the bottom of your profile where the signature space is and what the conclusion you reached there, am forced to remind you what the holy book talks about in 1 Corinthians 1:27 as how God chooses the foolish things of the world to put the wise to shame. He chooses the weak things of this world to put the powerful to shame. You can read it up. Those who act wise now will always end foolish before God.

I agree entirely with the statement in af_newbie's signature space. Religion is an ancient mechanism of social control, nothing more. It's an anachronism. It helped to keep tribal groups together and also provided an invisible all-seeing presence who would punish any bad behaviour. Nowadays the role played by religion is fulfilled by other things, police, army, government, surveillance cameras, etc.

[Maestro75]

Is owning human beings as property moral?

Am skipping the rest questions so I can answer this. Like this, answers to the rest questions will also be what you will dispute. Every creator has a right to decide what they want to do with their creature, whether animate or inanimate. A car manufacturer, a goldsmith, a builder, a programmer are creators and are not different from God on that level. They have their different desires fir creating whatever they create. You have to understand that the only reason God created man was for His pleasure. So he can do with man the way it pleases Him like the creators of the objects I listed above.

[hornetsnest]

I had a post deleted there so this is not a repost but just to make it clear. I don't hate or even dislike atheists or anyone for that matter. Its's your actions that define you as a person. There are plenty of so called Christians, Muslims, Jews et al who don't practice what they preach and plenty of atheists who practice better what the former preach.