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May 17, 2016, 04:45:43 PM |
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i have a feeling that they didn't want to answer any questions so they could do a big "I told you so" on their successful launch of ION. We'll never know that now...
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ladrx
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May 17, 2016, 04:46:01 PM |
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This "issue" was fixed in minutes and the cause was missing a dependency on the local machine. I can't see how this is of any relevance for this discussion. I love the way paycoiners ionomists keep popping up claiming something is irrelevant... So, the launch has happened, there's been some issues, as per expectations...not the first coin to run into problems on launch. What is interesting to me though are the questions regarding how the boosts are going to work if the ionomy team are running prime controllers masternodes with fixed % rewards. I wish I could see the maths that was used to work out how this coin is going to function. And I'm utterly leaving aside the issue that Ionomy PTE still doesn't actually exist yet, because we're all well aware by now that the team lied when they launched their ICO. Does anyone know if there will be any third party exchange picking up on this coin, or is it going to be just on the in house exchange? Btw, whoever it is, I forget now, that keeps rambling for half a page about whatever it is, entirely off topic, please stop, ffs. No one is actually bothering with your WOT nonsense. Ta. This is literally just a recoup-scam from and for the people that got boned in the ass by Paycoin. Except for those lucky 200 or so that get to be DPed by both Garza and Matlack. |
Adam Matlack 1/5/2014: "Not but 30 seconds later, the Holy Spirit slapped me upside the head and said "what are you thinkin'? What are you doin'?" It was an emphatic "NO". And I got - just guilt started to cover me"
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ladrx
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May 17, 2016, 04:51:57 PM |
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CHOO CHOO  |
Adam Matlack 1/5/2014: "Not but 30 seconds later, the Holy Spirit slapped me upside the head and said "what are you thinkin'? What are you doin'?" It was an emphatic "NO". And I got - just guilt started to cover me"
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IOTUSA
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May 17, 2016, 04:52:03 PM |
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Not quite sure what you are talking about. But if it puts a smile on your face I'm happy to be moderated, whatever that means. Ah, that post. I deleted it myself. Thought it may have been too much information in one post for you to comprehend.
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Is the team planning to store the bounty coins in a cold storage address?
Masternodes have variable returns. How does this work with fixed staker return? What happens if the Masternodes don't cover the stakers? What happens to the coins if it produces more than the staker payout?
Will you play the game of answering questions with me? Or will you now ignore me as I have asked some real questions again.
Your probably right, you called me a dumb fuck then tumbleweed can't remember............. Anyway in answer to your questions Is the team planning to store the bounty coins in a cold storage address? Yes, No, Maybe, Masternodes have variable returns. How does this work with fixed staker return? Magic What happens if the Masternodes don't cover the stakers? The internet breaks What happens to the coins if it produces more than the staker payout? All excess coins turn to chocolate Friend, please calm down. I don't want you to get health issues over this ION, you've been through enough with XPY. Does team ION have a candy store set up for all the chocolate? Whom do I contact if my internet breaks? What type of magic do the stakers operate on? You were a little vague with this response. Just a little clarification of you don't mind. I'm confused about he yes, no, maybe answer. Am I supposed to pick my favorite and make assumptions from there? Again, some more clarification on this point would help this simple minded chap out greatly. Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions seriously. And go have a beer and relax, fun times ahead! Ok, here is what happens next. 1. Some kind of 'storage solution' for ION that gives people 'Super POS rewards' outside of the masternodes. 2. Devs start distancing themselves 3. Bickering among the devs 4. The end. |
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IOTUSA
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May 17, 2016, 04:53:08 PM |
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This "issue" was fixed in minutes and the cause was missing a dependency on the local machine. I can't see how this is of any relevance for this discussion. I love the way paycoiners ionomists keep popping up claiming something is irrelevant... So, the launch has happened, there's been some issues, as per expectations...not the first coin to run into problems on launch. What is interesting to me though are the questions regarding how the boosts are going to work if the ionomy team are running prime controllers masternodes with fixed % rewards. I wish I could see the maths that was used to work out how this coin is going to function. And I'm utterly leaving aside the issue that Ionomy PTE still doesn't actually exist yet, because we're all well aware by now that the team lied when they launched their ICO. Does anyone know if there will be any third party exchange picking up on this coin, or is it going to be just on the in house exchange? Btw, whoever it is, I forget now, that keeps rambling for half a page about whatever it is, entirely off topic, please stop, ffs. No one is actually bothering with your WOT nonsense. Ta. This is literally just a recoup-scam from and for the people that got boned in the ass by Paycoin. Except for those lucky 200 or so that get to be DPed by both Garza and Matlack. I worked in the industry when Pay-con was launched, and talked to Garza regarding renting sha256 hash power. Took about 1 second to realize it was a pump and dump scam. |
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ladrx
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May 17, 2016, 04:55:46 PM |
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Adam, if you're reading this, I nominate " It's gone tits up!" as the new ion slogan!  |
Adam Matlack 1/5/2014: "Not but 30 seconds later, the Holy Spirit slapped me upside the head and said "what are you thinkin'? What are you doin'?" It was an emphatic "NO". And I got - just guilt started to cover me"
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ladrx
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May 17, 2016, 05:01:51 PM |
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As a matter of fact there is: You're a goddamned moron!  |
Adam Matlack 1/5/2014: "Not but 30 seconds later, the Holy Spirit slapped me upside the head and said "what are you thinkin'? What are you doin'?" It was an emphatic "NO". And I got - just guilt started to cover me"
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May 17, 2016, 05:18:26 PM |
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Windows Qt, Linux daemon, and now the Linux Qt are working fine. It's just a matter of time before the Mac build is fixed.
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ladrx
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May 17, 2016, 05:25:39 PM |
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Windows Qt, Linux daemon, and now the Linux Qt are working fine. It's just a matter of time before the Mac build is fixed.
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Adam Matlack 1/5/2014: "Not but 30 seconds later, the Holy Spirit slapped me upside the head and said "what are you thinkin'? What are you doin'?" It was an emphatic "NO". And I got - just guilt started to cover me"
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May 17, 2016, 05:26:08 PM |
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Windows Qt, Linux daemon, and now the Linux Qt are working fine. It's just a matter of time before the Mac build is fixed.
According to some apologists here the wallet was being tested for weeks - wasn't THAT the proper time to sort out build issues? But then again, every time I'm laughing at the excuses I know these guys will surprise me with an even more ridiculous excuse tomorrow. |
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ladrx
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May 17, 2016, 05:28:06 PM |
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Windows Qt, Linux daemon, and now the Linux Qt are working fine. It's just a matter of time before the Mac build is fixed.
According to some apologists here the wallet was being tested for weeks - wasn't THAT the proper time to sort out build issues? But then again, every time I'm laughing at the excuses I know these guys will surprise me with an even more ridiculous excuse tomorrow.  |
Adam Matlack 1/5/2014: "Not but 30 seconds later, the Holy Spirit slapped me upside the head and said "what are you thinkin'? What are you doin'?" It was an emphatic "NO". And I got - just guilt started to cover me"
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CryptoBuds
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May 17, 2016, 05:29:35 PM |
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Windows Qt, Linux daemon, and now the Linux Qt are working fine. It's just a matter of time before the Mac build is fixed.
According to some apologists here the wallet was being tested for weeks - wasn't THAT the proper time to sort out build issues? But then again, every time I'm laughing at the excuses I know these guys will surprise me with an even more ridiculous excuse tomorrow. This is awesome! I can't stop laughing when you respond to posts with Matlacks comments from Slack. Priceless! |
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May 17, 2016, 05:31:26 PM |
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Not quite sure what you are talking about. But if it puts a smile on your face I'm happy to be moderated, whatever that means. Ah, that post. I deleted it myself. Thought it may have been too much information in one post for you to comprehend.
Anyway...
Is the team planning to store the bounty coins in a cold storage address?
Masternodes have variable returns. How does this work with fixed staker return? What happens if the Masternodes don't cover the stakers? What happens to the coins if it produces more than the staker payout?
Will you play the game of answering questions with me? Or will you now ignore me as I have asked some real questions again.
Your probably right, you called me a dumb fuck then tumbleweed can't remember............. Anyway in answer to your questions Is the team planning to store the bounty coins in a cold storage address? Yes, No, Maybe, Masternodes have variable returns. How does this work with fixed staker return? Magic What happens if the Masternodes don't cover the stakers? The internet breaks What happens to the coins if it produces more than the staker payout? All excess coins turn to chocolate Friend, please calm down. I don't want you to get health issues over this ION, you've been through enough with XPY. Does team ION have a candy store set up for all the chocolate? Whom do I contact if my internet breaks? What type of magic do the stakers operate on? You were a little vague with this response. Just a little clarification of you don't mind. I'm confused about he yes, no, maybe answer. Am I supposed to pick my favorite and make assumptions from there? Again, some more clarification on this point would help this simple minded chap out greatly. Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions seriously. And go have a beer and relax, fun times ahead! Ok, here is what happens next. 1. Some kind of 'storage solution' for ION that gives people 'Super POS rewards' outside of the masternodes. 2. Devs start distancing themselves 3. Bickering among the devs 4. The end. They already have the super POS solution at hand. Atoms produce Electrons that double the stakers staking power. The electrons are off chain which means that the team will have control of a Masternode to produce the extra coins. This can turn out bad. |
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ladrx
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May 17, 2016, 05:32:25 PM |
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Windows Qt, Linux daemon, and now the Linux Qt are working fine. It's just a matter of time before the Mac build is fixed.
According to some apologists here the wallet was being tested for weeks - wasn't THAT the proper time to sort out build issues? But then again, every time I'm laughing at the excuses I know these guys will surprise me with an even more ridiculous excuse tomorrow. This is awesome! I can't stop laughing when you respond to posts with Matlacks comments from Slack. Priceless!  |
Adam Matlack 1/5/2014: "Not but 30 seconds later, the Holy Spirit slapped me upside the head and said "what are you thinkin'? What are you doin'?" It was an emphatic "NO". And I got - just guilt started to cover me"
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May 17, 2016, 05:38:24 PM |
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The rough start before the coin even launched just gives it more of the feel of a coin from the past. Not a good sign. Also, the fact they are launching a "gaming" coin with no games is not smart at all. This is the same situation as XPY, absolutely ZERO utility. Without the games, what is the point of ION?
The evidence of how poorly planned out this project is becomes more apparent every day. With no games the price is just gonna drop, and son the ICO investors will be screwed out of even more money.
Was it stated in the white paper that no games would be available upon launch? Was it stated anywhere in the ICO promotions that games for this "gaming" coin would not be available at launch? This all is super shady, but expected by this team of nice guys.
It was never stated anywhere that games would be available upon launch of the coin. But you seem to be very excited, you want everything on day one of the coin launch? ... The OP said there were to be 5 million coins offered in the ICO, it didn't appear to sell 5 million coins, yet all 10,900,000 coins were minted anyway. Where are the leftovers? What will be done with them? ... Will be transferred to dev bounty funds (so will not hit the market now) and it has been said the fund will be published on the blockchain (so including wallet address, although it should not be a problem to find such a big wallet anyway  ) Will all the coins that staked before the coin was distributed go there also? What about the extra staking from the one master node currently running because it has been impossible for anyone else to set one up? |
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May 17, 2016, 06:19:04 PM |
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Windows Qt, Linux daemon, and now the Linux Qt are working fine. It's just a matter of time before the Mac build is fixed.
According to some apologists here the wallet was being tested for weeks - wasn't THAT the proper time to sort out build issues? But then again, every time I'm laughing at the excuses I know these guys will surprise me with an even more ridiculous excuse tomorrow. From what i can tell its a select few mac users. (You cant test every version with every var) The devs tested the last 3 versions of mac (Clean Mac) and it worked. But still again one thing could be different and it will shit the brick as you would say. Me Personally i got it running on my mac with no issue. But i am only 1 person out of the many people who use mac. (Just so you know i hate mac i just have one cause I got it for free) |
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rdewilde
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May 17, 2016, 06:26:11 PM |
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At least we won't have to upgrade Slack to a paid plan with you around archiving every conversation in screenshots ;-) They fixed the Mac issue it seems btw. All ends well (so far). |
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May 17, 2016, 06:28:40 PM |
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Windows Qt, Linux daemon, and now the Linux Qt are working fine. It's just a matter of time before the Mac build is fixed.
According to some apologists here the wallet was being tested for weeks - wasn't THAT the proper time to sort out build issues? But then again, every time I'm laughing at the excuses I know these guys will surprise me with an even more ridiculous excuse tomorrow. Well you are right if it is a code issue. From what I got (just me) from Github it could even be related to a CPU architecture/model diff. If that's the case, I can't blame them. In the other case, yes. |
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May 17, 2016, 06:37:58 PM |
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They already have the super POS solution at hand. Atoms produce Electrons that double the stakers staking power. The electrons are off chain which means that the team will have control of a Masternode to produce the extra coins. This can turn out bad.
Yes, would be great if that was moved onto the blockchain like a slavenode to the masternode ;-) But as I see it (just me again) the electrons are part of the Ionomy PTE business concept (so to earn investments/capital, in the end they are no foundation right?). If that's the case, I would prefer NOT to add it to the blockchain. Blockchain should be fast and stable. IF adding functionality to it, it should be generic and decentral. |
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rdewilde
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May 17, 2016, 06:41:37 PM |
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LOL, and you guys expect to get the general public to adopt this technology? Good luck getting anyone outside your ion/paycoin echo chamber to spend more than 3 minutes on this shit.
True, should be(come) no hassle, otherwise 90% will not use it anyway. Ofcourse there still is the webbased wallet. |
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