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November 07, 2018, 02:50:47 AM
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Oh god, the CMC ranking again - the most meaningless metric ever

Well, that opinion makes you look very very stupid, enough said Smiley
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November 07, 2018, 03:16:19 AM
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Oh god, the CMC ranking again - the most meaningless metric ever

Well, that opinion makes you look very very stupid, enough said Smiley

Of course, if you take it out of context like that.
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November 07, 2018, 03:24:45 AM
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Oh god, the CMC ranking again - the most meaningless metric ever

Well, that opinion makes you look very very stupid, enough said Smiley

Of course, if you take it out of context like that.

What is the context, you said CMC rankings are meaningless ...
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November 07, 2018, 03:44:30 AM
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Oh god, the CMC ranking again - the most meaningless metric ever

Well, that opinion makes you look very very stupid, enough said Smiley

Of course, if you take it out of context like that.

What is the context, you said CMC rankings are meaningless ...

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/out-of-context

You quoted me by cutting out everything that explained why the rankings are meaningless because you wanted to make me look stupid. Let me explain you again: if the prices of almost all cryptocurrencies dropped over 90%, but also a lot of new cryptocurrencies were created during the bull-run then did Byteball dropped in rankings because it lost a lot more in price or because a lot new cryptocurrencies were created. That's why rankings are meaningless, because rank 51 and 52 itself doesn't tell you anything besides the order of marketcap size.
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November 07, 2018, 04:14:07 AM
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https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/out-of-context

You quoted me by cutting out everything that explained why the rankings are meaningless because you wanted to make me look stupid. Let me explain you again: if the prices of almost all cryptocurrencies dropped over 90%, but also a lot of new cryptocurrencies were created during the bull-run then did Byteball dropped in rankings because it lost a lot more in price or because a lot new cryptocurrencies were created. That's why rankings are meaningless, because rank 51 and 52 itself doesn't tell you anything besides the order of marketcap size.

Oh come on bro, editing reply posts to make them more readable is standard practice on forums, don't be a dick

Your logic is flawed, I can find numerous examples of coins that have stayed in the top50 for years now,  despite all the new coins, BUT, during this same period byteball dropped approx 150 ranking places, and you say that is meaningless ... XMR, NEM, LTC, Dash are all still top20,  most next tier coins down to rank 50 are relatively stable in rankings too. Yes, prices have tanked for everything, but CMC rankings are quite stable especially the top50, despite all the new coins.

CMC ranking is an important metric, especially over time.

Your logic is ridiculous if it doesn't recognize a ranking drop of  approx 150 places is very meaningful,  some new projects struggle for recognition which explains their low rankings, BUT byteball was a top50 coin (not exactly sure what the highest rank BB achieved was), it was highly visible with lots of support, and then BB LOST it, people who liked Tony as a dev, and the tech itself have stopped supporting. That is clearly shown by the ranking drop of 150 places on CMC, and it's meaningful, despite all the obvious flaws with young crypto markets.
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November 07, 2018, 05:27:19 AM
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Oh god, the CMC ranking again - the most meaningless metric ever (for coins under 1b marketcap). Create 100 shitcoins with higher marketcap and you kick somebody out of top 100.

What I see is that many altcoins have lost over 90% since the ATH and many new shitcoins were created during last bull-run. Did they also changed their distribution methods that caused them to lose over 90%? If you keep telling that it was because of the distribution and you keep telling others that it was because of distribution then after the while, it becomes the reason, no matter if it's true or not.

CMC ranking is the only way to see how the market values coins, it removes boom/bust prices, and every coin is subject to the same manipulation, so it's a level playing field.

tonych might have great plans to spread adoption but investors didn't like the moondrops ending and dumped their BB, nothing to do with new shitcoins
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November 07, 2018, 06:32:32 AM
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The current distribution methods, as already argued, do not lead to a significant further distribution and certainly not to a desirable circulation.

I am curious how many months it will take this time for management to come to this conclusion.
But I bet there will be another wrong decision afterwards.

Many technically interesting projects were ruined because the laws of marketing were not observed.

And here the daily assessment of the project according to chart technical aspects:
"Byteball Bytes price equal to 44.947 USD at 2018-11-07, but your current investment may be devalued in the future."

No ray of hope in the short term either:
"Historical index for the Byteball Bytes price prediction: D"

https://walletinvestor.com/forecast/byteball-bytes-prediction
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November 07, 2018, 07:45:16 AM
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10 coins above and lower of byterbal



Only 5 coins lost over 90% of value. TOP Scam


I assume that if you analyze the top 50, it turns out that most of the coins are still in the top 100 and have lost less than 90% of the cost.
Wake up the byterbal team and accept that you are doing something wrong. Reread this thread and note all criticism you can find. Then spend a week eating drugs every day. Reread criticism without your fucking sectarianism, with open mind.
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November 07, 2018, 08:24:45 AM
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Only 5 coins lost over 90% of value. TOP Scam
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The developer doesn't care. For him it is anyway only a toy, and as long as the courtiers stroke his ego...  Roll Eyes

Maybe interesting for psychologists: How does the audience react to applications that might not become relevant for 10 years?  Tongue

Edit: It looks as if the "dirty tricks" of other projects manipulate the target group of speculators much better.  Wink

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November 07, 2018, 09:07:12 AM
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Is it possible to send bytes using other chats? or only through the byte wallet? I think if you add a similar function to discard or Slark, it will be a huge success.  Shocked
You can use textcoins by DM too.
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November 07, 2018, 09:20:57 AM
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Only 5 coins lost over 90% of value. TOP Scam
Grin

The developer doesn't care. For him it is anyway only a toy, and as long as the courtiers stroke his ego...  Roll Eyes

Maybe interesting for psychologists: How does the audience react to applications that might not become relevant for 10 years?  Tongue

Edit: It looks as if the "dirty tricks" of other projects manipulate the target group of speculators much better.  Wink


Tony want byterbal be successful. But "Advisors", people around Tony give the wrong advices. It's fine because everyone is wrong. Bad is that they don't want to admit their mistakes. They happy to think everything is just market. When you show them before and after, comparing it with other projects, they ask you go to doctor. This is some sort of mega pride of advisers multiplied by the dictatorship of toych.
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November 07, 2018, 09:31:48 AM
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Is it possible to send bytes using other chats? or only through the byte wallet? I think if you add a similar function to discard or Slark, it will be a huge successShocked
Not really.
Most people are afraid of having to install a new app without any benefit from it.

Textcoins are brilliant, but completely worthless without use case. They are also again only the second step before the first.

In the end, the coins will be forgotten and lost in nirvana.
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November 07, 2018, 09:46:14 AM
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Tony want byterbal be successful. [...]
I don't think so, otherwise he would learn from his wrong decisions and face constructive criticism, personally. Other developers can do that too.
When the advice is no good, one does not listen to it anymore. But his ego is more important to him than the project.

Aside from that, I can agree with you.
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November 07, 2018, 09:47:44 AM
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rip
https://decryptmedia.com/2018/09/25/hedera-hashgraph-blockchain-alternative/?utm_content=bufferc698d&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
sad news, fork of byterbal going to replace this kingdom of dictatorship and madness
“We are putting together a council of 39 of the largest, most trusted, multinational corporations from around the world to govern the platform and the software that will run on millions of nodes globally,”  says Seah. “This governance structure is unique among the public ledgers that currently exist.”
A slew of companies have hitched their wagons to HH, including: gaming company alto.io; virtual trading platform, TrakInvest; CULedger, a consortium of North American credit unions; and Open VMS, the OS that powers critical infrastructure such as nuclear power plants and stock markets. So that’s reassuring

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November 07, 2018, 10:36:57 AM
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rip
https://decryptmedia.com/2018/09/25/hedera-hashgraph-blockchain-alternative/?utm_content=bufferc698d&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
sad news, fork of byterbal going to replace this kingdom of dictatorship and madness
“We are putting together a council of 39 of the largest, most trusted, multinational corporations from around the world to govern the platform and the software that will run on millions of nodes globally,”  says Seah. “This governance structure is unique among the public ledgers that currently exist.”
A slew of companies have hitched their wagons to HH, including: gaming company alto.io; virtual trading platform, TrakInvest; CULedger, a consortium of North American credit unions; and Open VMS, the OS that powers critical infrastructure such as nuclear power plants and stock markets. So that’s reassuring



This is the exact opposite of what Byteball is trying to achieve. Hashgraph is licensed, patented, federated, has centralized power, etc. While they will probably achieve a lot because it is much closer to the models big corporates are used to it is by no means a better model (for end users) than Byteball.

⚪ Byteball     ❱❱❱     I T   J U S T   W O R K S .    ❱❱❱
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November 07, 2018, 10:53:46 AM
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Almost all projects vie for the market of the fiat-focused flock of sheep. Bite ball is no exception.

The project, which recognizes the current signs of the times and concentrates on the exponentially growing unregulated markets, will however have an immediate and lasting success.
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November 07, 2018, 11:05:56 AM
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i think someone need push byteball on exchange
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November 07, 2018, 11:23:26 AM
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Writers wanted!

New Byteball contest: https://www.reddit.com/r/ByteBall/comments/9ud8j5/writers_wanted_new_byteball_contest/
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November 07, 2018, 11:52:50 AM
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https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/out-of-context

You quoted me by cutting out everything that explained why the rankings are meaningless because you wanted to make me look stupid. Let me explain you again: if the prices of almost all cryptocurrencies dropped over 90%, but also a lot of new cryptocurrencies were created during the bull-run then did Byteball dropped in rankings because it lost a lot more in price or because a lot new cryptocurrencies were created. That's why rankings are meaningless, because rank 51 and 52 itself doesn't tell you anything besides the order of marketcap size.

Oh come on bro, editing reply posts to make them more readable is standard practice on forums, don't be a dick

Your logic is flawed, I can find numerous examples of coins that have stayed in the top50 for years now,  despite all the new coins, BUT, during this same period byteball dropped approx 150 ranking places, and you say that is meaningless ... XMR, NEM, LTC, Dash are all still top20,  most next tier coins down to rank 50 are relatively stable in rankings too. Yes, prices have tanked for everything, but CMC rankings are quite stable especially the top50, despite all the new coins.

CMC ranking is an important metric, especially over time.

Your logic is ridiculous if it doesn't recognize a ranking drop of  approx 150 places is very meaningful,  some new projects struggle for recognition which explains their low rankings, BUT byteball was a top50 coin (not exactly sure what the highest rank BB achieved was), it was highly visible with lots of support, and then BB LOST it, people who liked Tony as a dev, and the tech itself have stopped supporting. That is clearly shown by the ranking drop of 150 places on CMC, and it's meaningful, despite all the obvious flaws with young crypto markets.

Trimming quotes is fine, if you don't take them out of context.

Of course there are coins that stayed in TOP50 for years, these are TOP20 coins you are talking about. The ranking there is less to change because marketcap is in billions. The further down the ranking list, the more meaningless the ranking becomes. There is huge difference if the coin is on 7th place or 8th place, there is little difference, if the coin is on 157th or 207th. TOP10 is stable now, it used to be that TOP5 was stable, even so that many index funds won't touch anything out of TOP5. TOP50 is not stable, many new coins shot up in there during bull-run.
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