Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments

[ittou]

Hi,
I left the folder of BYTEBALL and installed the OS cleanly. And when BYTEBALL was started, the balance became 0.
How can I upgrade BYTEBALL? With this way, the balance will be 0 every time, so I am afraid to use it.

Can you please be a bit more specific about what you exactly did? My understanding is that you saved your data directory and reinstalled your system, however I don't understand if you restored your data directory from your backup or not ...

Thank you for your reply.
I did the former.I did my saved data directory,and reinstalled my system.
I will give up the lost balance the worst but I would like to know what I should have done.

[SatoNatomato]

Hi,
I left the folder of BYTEBALL and installed the OS cleanly. And when BYTEBALL was started, the balance became 0.
How can I upgrade BYTEBALL? With this way, the balance will be 0 every time, so I am afraid to use it.

Can you please be a bit more specific about what you exactly did? My understanding is that you saved your data directory and reinstalled your system, however I don't understand if you restored your data directory from your backup or not ...

Thank you for your reply.
I did the former.I did my saved data directory,and reinstalled my system.
I will give up the lost balance the worst but I would like to know what I should have done.

Do you have the seed words? From those you can restore your wallet with at least the bytes balance intact.

You have also a saved data directory, you took a backup before reinstalling your system. Then, try to shut down Byteball wallet, ensure it is not in Task Manager, then, replace the current  data directory, with the one you saved, and start Byteball wallet again, is your balance now intaact?

[Come-from-Beyond]

Got no spare money IOTA devlopr to show how Byteball does not scale? Not even a tiny $1000? You mean you cant actually increase the Byteball database size to unscaleable levels with the money you made from hustling shittokens? How poor. Weak.

Now you are trying to distract attention from your fuckup.

You said the following:

Byteball database does grow fast, it can compress well, there can be other implementations to make it even smaller.

And I explained why with real usage Byteball database will lose ability to compress "well" and why there can never be "implementations to make it even smaller".

PS: Have you followed my advice to read basics of Information theory? If not then you, more likely, don't understand my point.

[ApexEvo]

Why are you guys waging personal war here? Why dont you both fuck off to do something usefull? 

[Come-from-Beyond]

Why are you guys waging personal war here? Why dont you both fuck off to do something usefull? 

I think I do something useful - I highlight SatoNatomato's fuckups (or they are intentional lies?)

[coinhugger]

I like how the 3rd airdrop of ByteBall is on March 12th, just one day after decision on BTC ETF approval yes/no. 

[yvv]

Is DAG somehow limited in size, or someone can make billions of transactions and bloat it?

Please read the OP:

The fees paid for storing one’s transactions (or any other data) in the Byteball database are equal to the size of the data being stored.  If the size of your transaction data is 500 bytes, you pay exactly 500 bytes (the native currency of Byteball) in fees.

So what? With a fee of 50$ someone can make DAG twice as big overnight? With a fee 500$ can make it 10 gb more? There is people who can do this just for fun. Is there some prunning mechanism what will allow to cut old transactions from database?

There isn't. I'm pointing this out for a long time but nobody is listening. Byteball has the same scalability problem like any other blockchain with adjustable blocksize limit. Database grows indefinitely and hardware and bandwith are the limiting factors. Moreover if somebody wants to attack byteball by sending huge data to the database it''s pretty easy and cheap at the current price. 8 years old Bitcoin blockchain nears 100 GB and you can make byteball database that big in 1 day for just $6700.

Why is it necessary to keep entire DAG on every node? This is the evident scalability flaw. Why not to make a snapshot every so often which fixes all unspent balances and archive all previous transactions?

[SatoNatomato]

Why are you guys waging personal war here? Why dont you both fuck off to do something usefull? 

Lets have a vote, should I stay or should I go?

Do I or Come-from-Beyond bring value to Byteball thread? Pick one, dont tell both to fuck off.

[yvv]

Why are you guys waging personal war here? Why dont you both fuck off to do something usefull? 

I think I do something useful - I highlight SatoNatomato's fuckups (or they are intentional lies?)

You think wrong. Both of you spam the thread with bullshit. Why don't you fuck off and let us decide ourselves who fucks what?
 

[zanzibar]

Why are you guys waging personal war here? Why dont you both fuck off to do something usefull? 

Lets have a vote, should I stay or should I go?

Do I or Come-from-Beyond bring value to Byteball thread? Pick one, dont tell both to fuck off.

Didn't you already sell your Byteball? You don't really add any value here other than angry trolling posts, so I would vote that you go away.

[Come-from-Beyond]

You think wrong. Both of you spam the thread with bullshit. Why don't you fuck off and let us decide ourselves who fucks what?

Well, either I or SatoNatomato is wrong, not both, that's how formal logic works. If you don't like reading my posts then click [Ignore] next to my name. If you don't like reading SatoNatomato's posts then click [Ignore] next to his name. You can even ignore the both, this is the beauty of BTT.

Newbies come to this thread and read incorrect information. I just don't like this and I try to fix this problem. Just press [Ignore] and everyone will be happy. Let's stop here before I think that you prefer SatoNatomato's lie to stay unfixed to rise price of your coins...

[SatoNatomato]

You think wrong. Both of you spam the thread with bullshit. Why don't you fuck off and let us decide ourselves who fucks what?

Well, either I or SatoNatomato is wrong, not both, that's how formal logic works. If you don't like reading my posts then click [Ignore] next to my name. If you don't like reading SatoNatomato's posts then click [Ignore] next to his name. You can even ignore the both, this is the beauty of BTT.

Newbies come to this thread and read incorrect information. I just don't like this and I try to fix this problem. Just press [Ignore] and everyone will be happy. Let's stop here before I think that you prefer SatoNatomato's lie to stay unfixed to rise price of your coins...

If you want byteball price to lower youre doing a weak job just like with iota.

The byteball database does compress well, and if you think you can use it to store incompressible data, please do, waste your money. Seriously, go ahead pay in bytes for the incompressible data you want to store.

Youre the one spreading lies with intent to lower price.

For newbies, Byteball cost to store data is proportional to the amount of data you want to store.

[yvv]

You think wrong. Both of you spam the thread with bullshit. Why don't you fuck off and let us decide ourselves who fucks what?

Well, either I or SatoNatomato is wrong, not both, that's how formal logic works. If you don't like reading my posts then click [Ignore] next to my name. If you don't like reading SatoNatomato's posts then click [Ignore] next to his name. You can even ignore the both, this is the beauty of BTT.

Newbies come to this thread and read incorrect information. I just don't like this and I try to fix this problem. Just press [Ignore] and everyone will be happy. Let's stop here before I think that you prefer SatoNatomato's lie to stay unfixed to rise price of your coins...

You have wrong logic baby. If two trolls contradict each other, this does not make one of you right. Thanks for mentioning ignore button.

[SatoNatomato]

You think wrong. Both of you spam the thread with bullshit. Why don't you fuck off and let us decide ourselves who fucks what?

Well, either I or SatoNatomato is wrong, not both, that's how formal logic works. If you don't like reading my posts then click [Ignore] next to my name. If you don't like reading SatoNatomato's posts then click [Ignore] next to his name. You can even ignore the both, this is the beauty of BTT.

Newbies come to this thread and read incorrect information. I just don't like this and I try to fix this problem. Just press [Ignore] and everyone will be happy. Let's stop here before I think that you prefer SatoNatomato's lie to stay unfixed to rise price of your coins...

You have wrong logic baby. If two trolls contradict each other, this does not make one of you right. Thanks for mentioning ignore button.

Why isnt he telling people to use ignore button on his own iota thread? Instead he censors.

Should be censored from here. I atleast provide technical info and help people, I even helped solve the "wallet is contacting google" bug.

And I wasnt even wrong about database size as it is today

[Come-from-Beyond]

Why isnt he telling people to use ignore button on his own iota thread? Instead he censors.

Should be censored from here. I atleast provide technical info and help people, I even helped solve the "wallet is contacting google" bug.

And I wasnt even wrong about database size as it is today

If he is smart he doesn't see your reply nor its quote. If you don't like me fixing your lies then stop posting them and you'll probably never see my posts here. 

[kola-schaar]

I once read that art has a soothing effect - let's try 

[SatoNatomato]

Why isnt he telling people to use ignore button on his own iota thread? Instead he censors.

Should be censored from here. I atleast provide technical info and help people, I even helped solve the "wallet is contacting google" bug.

And I wasnt even wrong about database size as it is today

If he is smart he doesn't see your reply nor its quote. If you don't like me fixing your lies then stop posting them and you'll probably never see my posts here. 

You have to try harder,at last you revealed your true motivation for being here.

Your attempts at dissuading me from participating in the helpful open Byteball community will fail.

It is also a good side effect that this thread will be bumped any time you pick a fight.

[Come-from-Beyond]

You have to try harder,at last you revealed your true motivation for being here.

Your attempts at dissuading me from participating in the helpful open Byteball community will fail.

It is also a good side effect that this thread will be bumped any time you pick a fight.

I don't mind continuing.

[phr0stbyt3]

I like what you guys are trying and did invest some in your coin hope I get some good returns. I just had few queries what are you plans for the future I would recommend you to introduce something more and different because if you now most of the altcoins have untraceable payments I just wanted to know are you going to introduce something more which isn't already there in the market.

[SatoNatomato]

I like what you guys are trying and did invest some in your coin hope I get some good returns. I just had few queries what are you plans for the future I would recommend you to introduce something more and different because if you now most of the altcoins have untraceable payments I just wanted to know are you going to introduce something more which isn't already there in the market.

Declarative smart contracts, a really lightweight client, immutable data storage, and assets are a few features.