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Author Topic: Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments  (Read 1236295 times)
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March 02, 2017, 12:35:56 PM
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Hi,
I left the folder of BYTEBALL and installed the OS cleanly. And when BYTEBALL was started, the balance became 0.
How can I upgrade BYTEBALL? With this way, the balance will be 0 every time, so I am afraid to use it.

Can you please be a bit more specific about what you exactly did? My understanding is that you saved your data directory and reinstalled your system, however I don't understand if you restored your data directory from your backup or not ...

Thank you for your reply.
I did the former.I did my saved data directory,and reinstalled my system.
I will give up the lost balance the worst but I would like to know what I should have done.
Do you have the seed words? From those you can restore your wallet with at least the bytes balance intact.

You have also a saved data directory, you took a backup before reinstalling your system. Then, try to shut down Byteball wallet, ensure it is not in Task Manager, then, replace the current  data directory, with the one you saved, and start Byteball wallet again, is your balance now intaact?


I have no saved data.I backed up only the data folder.
Since other coin could be backed up this way, we did not know where the wallet data is, so we did it the same way.
There is no way but I will give up lost data.
thank you very much.
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March 02, 2017, 02:25:48 PM
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Hi,
I have the seed + user folder from ver. 1.3 and I would like to reinstall the wallet on a new computer.
How do I do that with 1.4? when do I insert the old seed? do I just overwrite theh user folder?
thank you.

If you have blackbytes and want to keep them then seed words are not enough, you need to copy/backup the user folder to the new computer, then just run the newer version and it should all work fine.

Did you try using a folder backed up on one computer, on another one? I remember reading about users who tried it and it didn't work (even though it was the same operating system on both computers).
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March 02, 2017, 04:33:02 PM
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please help me!!
I had tried buy byteball in wallet from bot, and return message what order writen in "book". It was last week.
I want return their BTC.
Have what some command bot for cancel buy and return my btc on wallet?
Please, i think it question was last pages. It very long search.
If somebody have it problem or knows answer.
I will thanks you!!
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March 02, 2017, 04:45:54 PM
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Hi,
I have the seed + user folder from ver. 1.3 and I would like to reinstall the wallet on a new computer.
How do I do that with 1.4? when do I insert the old seed? do I just overwrite theh user folder?
thank you.

If you have blackbytes and want to keep them then seed words are not enough, you need to copy/backup the user folder to the new computer, then just run the newer version and it should all work fine.

Did you try using a folder backed up on one computer, on another one? I remember reading about users who tried it and it didn't work (even though it was the same operating system on both computers).
Yes it worked for me on Linux, from OpenSuse to Ubuntu, but I can understand if it fails on windows, it can select diffrent paths for the data folder which is difficult to discover.
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March 02, 2017, 04:47:27 PM
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please help me!!
I had tried buy byteball in wallet from bot, and return message what order writen in "book". It was last week.
I want return their BTC.
Have what some command bot for cancel buy and return my btc on wallet?
Please, i think it question was last pages. It very long search.
If somebody have it problem or knows answer.
I will thanks you!!
Unfortuneatly there is no cancel chat command, but you can try to buy your own order.
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March 02, 2017, 04:53:34 PM
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what is your order, you can decrease your sell order or increase your buy order at any time. then someone sells/buys at your price.
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March 02, 2017, 04:59:34 PM
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How to use lisk to make byteball?
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March 02, 2017, 05:05:40 PM
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How to use lisk to make byteball?

Go to exchange, sell Lisk for BTC, take BTC to cryptox.pl and buy BB
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March 02, 2017, 05:09:07 PM
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i'm in sync now, then I'll try to participate to the next round
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March 02, 2017, 06:29:39 PM
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So anyone else buying byteball or just everyone selling
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March 02, 2017, 06:52:13 PM
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what is your order, you can decrease your sell order or increase your buy order at any time. then someone sells/buys at your price.

How can I return my btc from byteball order book?
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March 02, 2017, 06:54:08 PM
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Few questions regarding byte backups.

1) What's the difference between the "backup wallet seed" and "full backup" functions? I assume the full backup takes the wallet seed and the data from the `local` folder and then encrypts and compresses that data into a single file......am I close?

2) Is it necessary to complete both the "backup wallet seed" and "full backup" functions to properly secure my wallet?

3) With the addition of the "full backup" function in the 1.4.0 wallet, is one still required to backup the file in the `local` folder?


Thanks in advance!

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March 02, 2017, 06:59:47 PM
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Few questions regarding byte backups.

1) What's the difference between the "backup wallet seed" and "full backup" functions? I assume the full backup takes the wallet seed and the data from the `local` folder and then encrypts and compresses that data into a single file......am I close?

2) Is it necessary to complete both the "backup wallet seed" and "full backup" functions to properly secure my wallet?

3) With the addition of the "full backup" function in the 1.4.0 wallet, is one still required to backup the file in the `local` folder?


Thanks in advance!

1) exactly
2) no, the full backup is all you need
3) no

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March 02, 2017, 07:22:26 PM
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Hi,
I have the seed + user folder from ver. 1.3 and I would like to reinstall the wallet on a new computer.
How do I do that with 1.4? when do I insert the old seed? do I just overwrite theh user folder?
thank you.

Imo, the easiest way to move your wallet to a new pc is by first installing 1.4 on the old pc and completing a "full backup." Be sure to close 1.4 on the old pc at this point. Then, install 1.4 on the new pc and "restore from full backup." I'm using WIN and this method worked like a charm for me.

Don't open 1.4 on the old pc after the full backup though, as Tony says this can cause issues with bbyte distribution as well as lost chat messages.

Please refer to Tony's post from last week, if necessary. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1608859.msg17942383#msg17942383

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March 02, 2017, 07:41:18 PM
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Hi. I'm new to byteball. Yesterday I verified my bitcoin addresses and I am expecting the next phase of the airdrop.

I understand there are 2 kinds of assets. bytes and blackbytes, the latter being for anonymous transactions. Does that make blackbytes generally more valuable than bytes?

How come the exchange currently available only lists bytes? Is it because it's impossible to list blackbytes, due to their nature or simply they haven't done it yet?

Is it possible to convert or automatically trade between the two assets? Because if not, essentially we are talking about two entirely unrelated assets here, right?

Sorry if these questions are elementary but I can't really go through 275 pages of posts. Maybe the white paper explains the relation between bytes and black bytes but I have not had a chance to take a deep look at it

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March 02, 2017, 08:04:25 PM
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I understand there are 2 kinds of assets. bytes and blackbytes, the latter being for anonymous transactions.

blackbytes are rather private, when you activate TOR they become anonymous.

Does that make blackbytes generally more valuable than bytes?

Currently, given the fact that all is given for free, that holding bytes is somehow incentivized by the rules of distribution, and that bytes can be exchanged against BTC (mainly on Cryptox), the market doesn't give blackbytes much value ... But yes for users to whom privacy matters, blackbytes should be more valuable.

How come the exchange currently available only lists bytes? Is it because it's impossible to list blackbytes, due to their nature or simply they haven't done it yet?

It is a bit troublesome, as deposits and witthdrawls won't be automatic, either they would be processed manually or we can imagine chatting with a bot to deposit/withdraw. That's because to send/receive them, both devices should be paired, and payment requests done through a chat interface.

Is it possible to convert or automatically trade between the two assets?

Not for the time being.

Because if not, essentially we are talking about two entirely unrelated assets here, right?

For now the only relation is that you need bytes to pay for blackbytes' transaction fees.
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March 02, 2017, 09:13:31 PM
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A little decoration for the 3rd round..
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March 02, 2017, 09:59:30 PM
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I understand there are 2 kinds of assets. bytes and blackbytes, the latter being for anonymous transactions.

blackbytes are rather private, when you activate TOR they become anonymous.

Does that make blackbytes generally more valuable than bytes?

Currently, given the fact that all is given for free, that holding bytes is somehow incentivized by the rules of distribution, and that bytes can be exchanged against BTC (mainly on Cryptox), the market doesn't give blackbytes much value ... But yes for users to whom privacy matters, blackbytes should be more valuable.

How come the exchange currently available only lists bytes? Is it because it's impossible to list blackbytes, due to their nature or simply they haven't done it yet?

It is a bit troublesome, as deposits and witthdrawls won't be automatic, either they would be processed manually or we can imagine chatting with a bot to deposit/withdraw. That's because to send/receive them, both devices should be paired, and payment requests done through a chat interface.

Is it possible to convert or automatically trade between the two assets?

Not for the time being.

Because if not, essentially we are talking about two entirely unrelated assets here, right?

For now the only relation is that you need bytes to pay for blackbytes' transaction fees.

Precise and to the point. Thanks for your answers

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March 02, 2017, 11:00:27 PM
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Hello everyone.
Who gets the transaction and storage fees?
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March 03, 2017, 04:02:36 AM
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Hello everyone.
Who gets the transaction and storage fees?
Fees and intrinsic value

The fees are collected partially by those who are first to reference your transaction as parent and partially by witnesses.
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