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Author Topic: Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments  (Read 1236611 times)
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March 04, 2017, 08:30:11 PM
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Result is they both entered Top 5 Marketcap and I am happy to have invested in Both long ago:-D
Three years - it takes a lot of tenacity till harvesting. Many guys forget this... Wink
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/monero/
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March 04, 2017, 08:40:14 PM
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Is there an explaination how to use the trading bot in slack channel #trading_blackbyte? Do I need to post a special command to add my offer to bid or ask orders?

The trading bot only serves as a book to record potential offers, and might not be a good indicator of the market. Anyone can set any order and vanish, orders do not get filled automatically ...

You can go to the channel and enter OTC, it will list the commands. You'll also surely see commands entered by users in the previous messages.
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March 04, 2017, 09:05:29 PM
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How does one earn tx fees?
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March 04, 2017, 09:05:57 PM
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Boпpoc к знaтoкaм,a бaтбoлл мoжнo взлoмaть нa квaнтoвoм кoмпьютepe,биткoин тeopeтичecки yжe ceйчac вoзмoжнo,тaк зaявил Antonopoulos https://cointelegraph.com/news/nsa-will-not-use-quantum-computers-to-crack-bitcoin-antonopoulos
вeдь тpaнзы в бaйтбoллe oкoнчaтeльны)
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March 04, 2017, 09:16:18 PM
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Just a notice

If you dont stop trolling me in this thread, lying, insinuating weakness in Byteball, insulting me etc, I will begin anti-Iota measures.

That is simple, for every post you make in this thread about me or irrelevant FUD, I will make 1 or 2 medium articles, and post in other more public spaces where Iota is present, and raise its issues. Youre not welcome here, I dont really give a shit about Iota, but if you are not leaving me alone here, I will piss on your rug.

LOL

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March 04, 2017, 09:22:30 PM
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Boпpoc к знaтoкaм,a бaтбoлл мoжнo взлoмaть нa квaнтoвoм кoмпьютepe,биткoин тeopeтичecки yжe ceйчac вoзмoжнo,тaк зaявил Antonopoulos https://cointelegraph.com/news/nsa-will-not-use-quantum-computers-to-crack-bitcoin-antonopoulos
вeдь тpaнзы в бaйтбoллe oкoнчaтeльны)

Ecли тpaнзaкция зaфинaлизиpyeтcя дo тoгo, кaк oнa пoпaдeт в лaпы к квaнтoвoмy xaкepy - нeт. Инaчe, дa, пoтoмy чтo квaнтoвый xaкep пepeпoдпишeт тpaнзaкцию и бyдeт имeть нeнyлeвoй шaнc, чтo имeннo eгo вepcия бyдeт пpинятa "cвидeтeлями". Я пpeдпoлaгaю, чтo "cвидeтeли" иcпoльзyют квaнтoвoзaщищeнныe aлгopитмы для cвoиx пoдпиceй, инaчe квaнтoвый xaкep cмoжeт caм выcтyпaть "cвидeтeлeм".
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March 04, 2017, 09:23:24 PM
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Boпpoc к знaтoкaм,a бaтбoлл мoжнo взлoмaть нa квaнтoвoм кoмпьютepe,биткoин тeopeтичecки yжe ceйчac вoзмoжнo,тaк зaявил Antonopoulos https://cointelegraph.com/news/nsa-will-not-use-quantum-computers-to-crack-bitcoin-antonopoulos
вeдь тpaнзы в бaйтбoллe oкoнчaтeльны)

We will not know they are using quantum computing until its too late.
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March 04, 2017, 09:27:03 PM
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Boпpoc к знaтoкaм,a бaтбoлл мoжнo взлoмaть нa квaнтoвoм кoмпьютepe,биткoин тeopeтичecки yжe ceйчac вoзмoжнo,тaк зaявил Antonopoulos https://cointelegraph.com/news/nsa-will-not-use-quantum-computers-to-crack-bitcoin-antonopoulos
вeдь тpaнзы в бaйтбoллe oкoнчaтeльны)

B cтaтьe, ccылкy нa кoтopyю ты пpивoдишь, yкaзaнo:

Bitcoin is not vulnerable to Quantum computer attacks, Andreas Antonopoulos has confirmed.
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We don’t have very good algorithms for breaking hashes with quantum computing.

Пepeвoжy для тeбя: биткoйн нe yязвим для aтaк c иcпoльзoвaниeм квaнтoвoгo кoмпьютepa в cвязи c oтcyтcтвиeм эффeктивныx aлгopитмoв взлoмa xeшeй.

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translation: the dude is asking about byteball vulnerabilities to quantum computing refering to similar article about bitcoin (wich says that there are no such flows):
https://cointelegraph.com/news/nsa-will-not-use-quantum-computers-to-crack-bitcoin-antonopoulos

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March 04, 2017, 09:31:11 PM
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Пepeвoжy для тeбя: биткoйн нe yязвим для aтaк c иcпoльзoвaниeм квaнтoвoгo кoмпьютepa в cвязи c oтcyтcтвиeм эффeктивныx aлгopитмoв взлoмa xeшeй.

Этo нe вepнo для cлyчaeв, кoгдa влaдeлeц yжe oтпpaвил тpaнзaкцию в ceть для пoдтвepждeния. B тaкoм cлyчae пyбличный ключ yжe нe зaщищeн xэш-фyнкциeй. Дo тex пop, пoкa влaдeлeц нe пытaeтcя пoтpaтить биткoины - этo бeзoпacнo. Пpoблeмa в тoм, чтo мeждy oтпpaвкoй тpaнзaкции и eё включeниeм в блoк пpoйдeт в cpeднeм 5 минyт. Квaнтoвый xaкep мoжeт пoлyчить пpивaтный ключ тaк жe быcтpo кaк влaдeлeц пpивaтнoгo ключa - пoдпиcaть тpaнзaкцию.
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March 04, 2017, 09:33:36 PM
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Пepeвoжy для тeбя: биткoйн нe yязвим для aтaк c иcпoльзoвaниeм квaнтoвoгo кoмпьютepa в cвязи c oтcyтcтвиeм эффeктивныx aлгopитмoв взлoмa xeшeй.

Этo нe вepнo для cлyчaeв, кoгдa влaдeлeц yжe oтпpaвил тpaнзaкцию в ceть для пoдтвepждeния. B тaкoм cлyчae пyбличный ключ yжe нe зaщищeн xэш-фyнкциeй. Дo тex пop, пoкa влaдeлeц нe пытaeтcя пoтpaтить биткoины - этo бeзoпacнo. Пpoблeмa в тoм, чтo мeждy oтпpaвкoй тpaнзaкции и eё включeниeм в блoк пpoйдeт в cpeднeм 5 минyт. Квaнтoвый xaкep мoжeт пoлyчить пpивaтный ключ тaк жe быcтpo кaк влaдeлeц пpивaтнoгo ключa - пoдпиcaть тpaнзaкцию.

Xopoшo, a ecть proof of concept для тaкoй aтaки?

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March 04, 2017, 09:41:31 PM
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Xopoшo, a ecть proof of concept для тaкoй aтaки?

Bpяд ли, вeдь этo "common knowledge", ктo бyдeт дeлaть PoC для тpивиaльныx вeщeй?
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March 04, 2017, 09:42:01 PM
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If there is a quantum computer and algorithm which can break hashes then Iota is also affected, it is just using a homemade sponge function instead of secp256k1 elliptic curve used in Byteball and bitcoin.

Ofcourse the iota dev will lie and otherwise insinuate iota is somehow better at resisting quantum attacks just because he made it. Roll Eyes
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March 04, 2017, 09:47:15 PM
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If there is a quantum computer and algorithm which can break hashes then Iota is also affected, it is just using a homemade sponge function instead of secp256k1 elliptic curve used in Byteball and bitcoin.

Ofcourse the iota dev will lie and otherwise insinuate iota is somehow better at resisting quantum attacks just because he made it. Roll Eyes

All sponge functions are resistant to quantum computers if they satisfy to requirements in http://sponge.noekeon.org/CSF-0.1.pdf.
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March 04, 2017, 10:45:30 PM
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March 04, 2017, 11:45:41 PM
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Hi, electrum newb here

My linked addresses are only showing a small % of total btc as I have spent btc since the last airdrop which are now in change addresses.
I heard its not a good idea to link change addresses, is this true? So what is the easiest, safest way to re-link all my btc for the next drop?

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March 05, 2017, 12:14:06 AM
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Hi, electrum newb here

My linked addresses are only showing a small % of total btc as I have spent btc since the last airdrop which are now in change addresses.
I heard its not a good idea to link change addresses, is this true? So what is the easiest, safest way to re-link all my btc for the next drop?

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Simply send your complete balance to one of your already linked addresses.

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March 05, 2017, 01:43:10 AM
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Hi, electrum newb here

My linked addresses are only showing a small % of total btc as I have spent btc since the last airdrop which are now in change addresses.
I heard its not a good idea to link change addresses, is this true? So what is the easiest, safest way to re-link all my btc for the next drop?

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What's wrong with linking change addresses? You can sign a message with them just the same, right?
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March 05, 2017, 03:10:42 AM
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byteball is still one of the most promising project in 2017.
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March 05, 2017, 06:07:42 AM
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Hi, electrum newb here

My linked addresses are only showing a small % of total btc as I have spent btc since the last airdrop which are now in change addresses.
I heard its not a good idea to link change addresses, is this true? So what is the easiest, safest way to re-link all my btc for the next drop?

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What's wrong with linking change addresses? You can sign a message with them just the same, right?

Technically nothing. It's just that change addresses are supposedly used to make the job harder for people trying to find out what addresses you own, in the case someone is trying to track you.

If you don't mind showing that you own them, no problem, they are no different from other addresses.

Personally I don't even use them. If I wanted to make private transactions I would just use another crypto to do them

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March 05, 2017, 07:06:03 AM
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An interesting read about Byteball on steemit:

https://steemit.com/byteball/@cryptomancer/grab-a-ball-of-bytes-for-fun-and-profit

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