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Author Topic: Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments  (Read 1234240 times)
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March 02, 2017, 06:59:47 PM
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Few questions regarding byte backups.

1) What's the difference between the "backup wallet seed" and "full backup" functions? I assume the full backup takes the wallet seed and the data from the `local` folder and then encrypts and compresses that data into a single file......am I close?

2) Is it necessary to complete both the "backup wallet seed" and "full backup" functions to properly secure my wallet?

3) With the addition of the "full backup" function in the 1.4.0 wallet, is one still required to backup the file in the `local` folder?


Thanks in advance!

1) exactly
2) no, the full backup is all you need
3) no

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March 02, 2017, 07:22:26 PM
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Hi,
I have the seed + user folder from ver. 1.3 and I would like to reinstall the wallet on a new computer.
How do I do that with 1.4? when do I insert the old seed? do I just overwrite theh user folder?
thank you.

Imo, the easiest way to move your wallet to a new pc is by first installing 1.4 on the old pc and completing a "full backup." Be sure to close 1.4 on the old pc at this point. Then, install 1.4 on the new pc and "restore from full backup." I'm using WIN and this method worked like a charm for me.

Don't open 1.4 on the old pc after the full backup though, as Tony says this can cause issues with bbyte distribution as well as lost chat messages.

Please refer to Tony's post from last week, if necessary. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1608859.msg17942383#msg17942383

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March 02, 2017, 07:41:18 PM
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Hi. I'm new to byteball. Yesterday I verified my bitcoin addresses and I am expecting the next phase of the airdrop.

I understand there are 2 kinds of assets. bytes and blackbytes, the latter being for anonymous transactions. Does that make blackbytes generally more valuable than bytes?

How come the exchange currently available only lists bytes? Is it because it's impossible to list blackbytes, due to their nature or simply they haven't done it yet?

Is it possible to convert or automatically trade between the two assets? Because if not, essentially we are talking about two entirely unrelated assets here, right?

Sorry if these questions are elementary but I can't really go through 275 pages of posts. Maybe the white paper explains the relation between bytes and black bytes but I have not had a chance to take a deep look at it

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March 02, 2017, 08:04:25 PM
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I understand there are 2 kinds of assets. bytes and blackbytes, the latter being for anonymous transactions.

blackbytes are rather private, when you activate TOR they become anonymous.

Does that make blackbytes generally more valuable than bytes?

Currently, given the fact that all is given for free, that holding bytes is somehow incentivized by the rules of distribution, and that bytes can be exchanged against BTC (mainly on Cryptox), the market doesn't give blackbytes much value ... But yes for users to whom privacy matters, blackbytes should be more valuable.

How come the exchange currently available only lists bytes? Is it because it's impossible to list blackbytes, due to their nature or simply they haven't done it yet?

It is a bit troublesome, as deposits and witthdrawls won't be automatic, either they would be processed manually or we can imagine chatting with a bot to deposit/withdraw. That's because to send/receive them, both devices should be paired, and payment requests done through a chat interface.

Is it possible to convert or automatically trade between the two assets?

Not for the time being.

Because if not, essentially we are talking about two entirely unrelated assets here, right?

For now the only relation is that you need bytes to pay for blackbytes' transaction fees.

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March 02, 2017, 09:13:31 PM
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March 02, 2017, 09:59:30 PM
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I understand there are 2 kinds of assets. bytes and blackbytes, the latter being for anonymous transactions.

blackbytes are rather private, when you activate TOR they become anonymous.

Does that make blackbytes generally more valuable than bytes?

Currently, given the fact that all is given for free, that holding bytes is somehow incentivized by the rules of distribution, and that bytes can be exchanged against BTC (mainly on Cryptox), the market doesn't give blackbytes much value ... But yes for users to whom privacy matters, blackbytes should be more valuable.

How come the exchange currently available only lists bytes? Is it because it's impossible to list blackbytes, due to their nature or simply they haven't done it yet?

It is a bit troublesome, as deposits and witthdrawls won't be automatic, either they would be processed manually or we can imagine chatting with a bot to deposit/withdraw. That's because to send/receive them, both devices should be paired, and payment requests done through a chat interface.

Is it possible to convert or automatically trade between the two assets?

Not for the time being.

Because if not, essentially we are talking about two entirely unrelated assets here, right?

For now the only relation is that you need bytes to pay for blackbytes' transaction fees.

Precise and to the point. Thanks for your answers

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March 02, 2017, 11:00:27 PM
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Hello everyone.
Who gets the transaction and storage fees?
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March 03, 2017, 04:02:36 AM
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Hello everyone.
Who gets the transaction and storage fees?
Fees and intrinsic value

The fees are collected partially by those who are first to reference your transaction as parent and partially by witnesses.
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March 03, 2017, 04:03:41 AM
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can we get a normal exchange that doesnt trade only gigabytes but normal numbers?
we need serious one like bittrex or so, not unknown one like now

this is not looking good for the coin

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March 03, 2017, 04:08:52 AM
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can we get a normal exchange that doesnt trade only gigabytes but normal numbers?
we need serious one like bittrex or so, not unknown one like now

this is not looking good for the coin
Maybe we have soon the internal exchange inside the wallet then its looking very good for byteball.
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March 03, 2017, 06:58:00 AM
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Is this coin available in the exchanger like Yobit, Poloniex, Bittrex and many more? I find but not found.
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March 03, 2017, 09:17:39 AM
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can we get a normal exchange that doesnt trade only gigabytes but normal numbers?
we need serious one like bittrex or so, not unknown one like now

this is not looking good for the coin

I understand your concern I feel same way just think you have to be patient once most of the money supply is released I'm sure it will be on major exchange give it time
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March 03, 2017, 09:42:54 AM
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Is this coin available in the exchanger like Yobit, Poloniex, Bittrex and many more? I find but not found.
You can trade it on bitsquare, cryptox.pl, inwallet trade bot, and slack channels.
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March 03, 2017, 09:58:44 AM
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Is this coin available in the exchanger like Yobit, Poloniex, Bittrex and many more? I find but not found.
You can trade it on bitsquare, cryptox.pl, inwallet trade bot, and slack channels.

do thin client has inwallet tradebot?if yes..where is it?
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March 03, 2017, 10:01:42 AM
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just open this link : byteball:Ar2ukVqx309sX+LoC9RVOpfATgXskt+Ser5jVr3Q2FOo@byteball.org/bb#0000

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March 03, 2017, 10:07:28 AM
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just open this link : byteball:Ar2ukVqx309sX+LoC9RVOpfATgXskt+Ser5jVr3Q2FOo@byteball.org/bb#0000
That link for exchanger, but broken.

You can buy or sell bytes without leaving the wallet by chatting with a trading bot. You can also trade at Cryptox exchange and Bitsquare decentralized exchange.


Waiting available to poloniex (my best exchanger).
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March 03, 2017, 10:11:30 AM
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just open this link : byteball:Ar2ukVqx309sX+LoC9RVOpfATgXskt+Ser5jVr3Q2FOo@byteball.org/bb#0000

it return with "upgrade required"
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March 03, 2017, 10:11:51 AM
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I have a question about linked addresses:
Can you link more than one bitcoin address to ONE byteball address. If so, how? I guess I should just talk to the transitionbot and post my btc public key, is this right?

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March 03, 2017, 10:16:19 AM
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Can you link more than one bitcoin address to ONE byteball address. If so, how? I guess I should just talk to the transitionbot and post my btc public key, is this right?

Yes you can. If your current Byteball address isn't the one you want to link to, then you should first enter your Byteball address, then your Bitcoin address, the bot will then wait for a signed message, give it to it and it will link the addresses.

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March 03, 2017, 10:19:12 AM
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Yes you can. If your current Byteball address isn't the one you want to link to, then you should first enter your Byteball address, then your Bitcoin address, the bot will then wait for a signed message, give it to it and it will link the addresses.

Thanks. I already linked to my savings account, but now I want to link to my active account, too, before the next distribution. So this is easily possible then? Great!

Get educated about Bitcoin. Check out Andreas Antonopoulos on Youtube. An old but gold talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc744Z9IjhY

UPDATE 2024: Daniel Schmachtenberger on The Meta-Crisis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSx8j8lSewA Important talk about the current state of this planet and human society in general.
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