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March 06, 2017, 08:36:27 PM
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If I linked an address containing 100k btc then I can still link the same address the next round or I'll need to move my bitcoins into another address and then link for new round?
Every round there is no need for me to link new coins right?

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March 06, 2017, 08:46:17 PM
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If I linked an address containing 100k btc then I can still link the same address the next round or I'll need to move my bitcoins into another address and then link for new round?
Every round there is no need for me to link new coins right?

Right! It's exactly like you discribed.

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March 06, 2017, 08:52:12 PM
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Tested Bind payment

sent 0.4 GBB for 1000 byte received.

there is something strange in Peer chat, it says "Payment 4349 bytes"  but the payment condition was 1000 bytes.
Indeed payment request message was "payment request : 1000 bytes to XYA............FFR" , peer received 1000 bytes request and 1000 bytes were sent

another strange thing happen in bytes receiver wallet: 0.484 GB have been moved in a new address, wallet balance has not been affected.

0.4 GBB are in a blackbytes smart wallet now.

What i want to ask is:
- why chat messages are not the same
- sending another Binf payment will generate another subwallet?
- TX fees are doubled with this new feature, am i correct?
- Blackbytes balance of receiver wallet is splitted in GBB in main wallet +  GBB "Also" in smart wallet, why not total amount ?

How did you test?  Could it be that you had the same device on both sides of the trade?

Main Device (PC) has 2 wallets , default wallet and Multisig (1/2) wallet -created later-

1 Pc sending GBB + 1 Android mobile receinving GBB multisig wallet (1/2)

repeated test (5 GB for 1000 bytes), this time chat  message says "payment 2364 bytes" , again 0.48 GB moved in a new address

That's what I expected - your PC was on both sides of the trade and it had difficulty interpreting the payment that had its addresses as both sender and receiver.


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- TX fees are doubled with this new feature, am i correct?
There are 3 transactions in total, if that's what you are asking about.
agree about 3 transaction, why the third is not automatic?
The wallet never signs transactions on your behalf without your explicit request.

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- Blackbytes balance of receiver wallet is splitted in GBB in main wallet +  GBB "Also" in smart wallet, why not total amount ?
Because spending of smart wallet is constrained by the smart contract conditions.  You might be not able yet or already not able to spend from it.
If you can spend from it, you move its balance to your main wallet, this is the 3rd and final transaction.

what happen if the third transaction is undone?

What do you mean undone?

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March 06, 2017, 09:51:03 PM
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This is great news! Thanks you vey much for your good work, Tonych!
I am very surprised about the speed of the new features Byteball releases.
I am not yet that skilled about the technology but I try to learn. When I understand correctly, then conditional payments are like smart contracts, right? It is just another name for it isn't it?

Version 1.5 released https://github.com/byteball/byteball/releases

It's the biggest update since the launch.  It enables conditional payments, which allow you to P2P exchange bytes vs blackbytes since today.  Much more in the next releases.

Read my Medium article about making P2P great again https://medium.com/byteball/making-p2p-great-again-fe9e20546a4a#.i6kj1ug99

Note that to bind your payment to a condition you must be connected in chat with the payee and click his address or accept a payment request.

Other updates in this release:
* Fixed frequent disconnects that might affect sync speed
* Small performance optimizations
* Multiple small bugs fixed

Please upgrade.  The wallet might start a bit longer than usual the first time after the upgrade, this is because it needs to upgrade the database, be patient.  

Be prepared for bugs since it is a big update (I guess you are already used to expecting this when you are into something new).
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March 06, 2017, 09:59:45 PM
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Forgot to ask. I am looking for a tutorial how to exchange Byteball for BlackByteball with the new feature in version 1.5. When I understand correctly, the new version of Byteball wallet offers this feature now.

Can you please create a post or a blog entry for that? I would be very grateful.
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March 06, 2017, 10:05:46 PM
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Forgot to ask. I am looking for a tutorial how to exchange Byteball for BlackByteball with the new feature in version 1.5. When I understand correctly, the new version of Byteball wallet offers this feature now.

Can you please create a post or a blog entry for that? I would be very grateful.
Do you know how to obtain byteball from btc?
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March 06, 2017, 11:02:45 PM
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cheap coins again for me i guess, then.
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March 06, 2017, 11:14:44 PM
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When I understand correctly, then conditional payments are like smart contracts, right? It is just another name for it isn't it?

Conditional payments is an application based on smart contracts.

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March 06, 2017, 11:21:34 PM
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When I understand correctly, then conditional payments are like smart contracts, right? It is just another name for it isn't it?

Conditional payments is an application based on smart contracts.
I want to ask
How can I get if my bitcoin balance existing in the wallet for 1btc
how to calculate the distribution amount byteball do we get?


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March 06, 2017, 11:25:50 PM
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I changed my computer from linux to windows and installed Byteball.  How can I transfer my BlackBytes to the new Byteball installation on Windows?  I have the byteball folder from the home directory on the linux installation.
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March 06, 2017, 11:28:56 PM
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- Blackbytes balance of receiver wallet is splitted in GBB in main wallet +  GBB "Also" in smart wallet, why not total amount ?
Because spending of smart wallet is constrained by the smart contract conditions.  You might be not able yet or already not able to spend from it.
If you can spend from it, you move its balance to your main wallet, this is the 3rd and final transaction.

what happen if the third transaction is undone?

What do you mean undone?

Sorry i mean , what will happen if the blackbyte side (the receiver of GBB) don't send coins from smart wallet to main wallet? i.e. if there is not the right amouont of amount of bytes to cover fees
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March 06, 2017, 11:40:22 PM
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I changed my computer from linux to windows and installed Byteball.  How can I transfer my BlackBytes to the new Byteball installation on Windows?  I have the byteball folder from the home directory on the linux installation.

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@bitwonder to receive GBB if you do not have any try doing it this way: start a chat with paired device, click INSERT ADDRESS in chat menu, now the owner of the blackbytes can click your address and he will see an option to send blackbytes to you
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March 06, 2017, 11:44:04 PM
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- Blackbytes balance of receiver wallet is splitted in GBB in main wallet +  GBB "Also" in smart wallet, why not total amount ?
Because spending of smart wallet is constrained by the smart contract conditions.  You might be not able yet or already not able to spend from it.
If you can spend from it, you move its balance to your main wallet, this is the 3rd and final transaction.

what happen if the third transaction is undone?

What do you mean undone?

Sorry i mean , what will happen if the blackbyte side (the receiver of GBB) don't send coins from smart wallet to main wallet? i.e. if there is not the right amouont of amount of bytes to cover fees

the receiver dont need any white bytes to receive blackbytes, only the sender paid fee
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March 06, 2017, 11:53:14 PM
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- Blackbytes balance of receiver wallet is splitted in GBB in main wallet +  GBB "Also" in smart wallet, why not total amount ?
Because spending of smart wallet is constrained by the smart contract conditions.  You might be not able yet or already not able to spend from it.
If you can spend from it, you move its balance to your main wallet, this is the 3rd and final transaction.

what happen if the third transaction is undone?

What do you mean undone?

Sorry i mean , what will happen if the blackbyte side (the receiver of GBB) don't send coins from smart wallet to main wallet? i.e. if there is not the right amouont of amount of bytes to cover fees


the receiver dont need any white bytes to receive blackbytes, only the sender paid fee
really?  have you try, didn't you?
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March 07, 2017, 12:04:39 AM
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I changed my computer from linux to windows and installed Byteball.  How can I transfer my BlackBytes to the new Byteball installation on Windows?  I have the byteball folder from the home directory on the linux installation.

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@bitwonder to receive GBB if you do not have any try doing it this way: start a chat with paired device, click INSERT ADDRESS in chat menu, now the owner of the blackbytes can click your address and he will see an option to send blackbytes to you

Isn't there a way I can transfer them from a backup or from the config files on the old computer?  The old computer with blackbytes is disconnected from network and I reconstructed my address using my seed on the new pc.
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March 07, 2017, 12:55:10 AM
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I think this is a new coin with new features.

"1% I reserve for myself"

Do we have to believe if you only get 1%?  Grin

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March 07, 2017, 12:57:26 AM
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5 days left byteball round 3 started i am sure byteball lover can't wait for it
may i know the airdrop will finish at third round? or it will be next round?
because for now i don't have much bitcoin, maybe will get small amount
if it will be next round i will have bigger amount of btc so will get gbyte bigger too Smiley
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March 07, 2017, 01:29:48 AM
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5 days left byteball round 3 started i am sure byteball lover can't wait for it
may i know the airdrop will finish at third round? or it will be next round?
because for now i don't have much bitcoin, maybe will get small amount
if it will be next round i will have bigger amount of btc so will get gbyte bigger too Smiley

i'm sure there will be message about it after the 3rd round.

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March 07, 2017, 01:38:57 AM
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- Blackbytes balance of receiver wallet is splitted in GBB in main wallet +  GBB "Also" in smart wallet, why not total amount ?
Because spending of smart wallet is constrained by the smart contract conditions.  You might be not able yet or already not able to spend from it.
If you can spend from it, you move its balance to your main wallet, this is the 3rd and final transaction.

what happen if the third transaction is undone?

What do you mean undone?

Sorry i mean , what will happen if the blackbyte side (the receiver of GBB) don't send coins from smart wallet to main wallet? i.e. if there is not the right amouont of amount of bytes to cover fees


the receiver dont need any white bytes to receive blackbytes, only the sender paid fee
really?  have you try, didn't you?

No dude , you are wrong!!!  PAY ATTENTION blackbytes have to be transfered from smart wallet to main wallet and bytes needed to pay tx fees (2336 for 0.4 GBB),!

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I think this is a new coin with new features.

"1% I reserve for myself"

Do we have to believe if you only get 1%?  Grin
this is not the right thread to grow your useraccount! Wink
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I changed my computer from linux to windows and installed Byteball.  How can I transfer my BlackBytes to the new Byteball installation on Windows?  I have the byteball folder from the home directory on the linux installation.

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@bitwonder to receive GBB if you do not have any try doing it this way: start a chat with paired device, click INSERT ADDRESS in chat menu, now the owner of the blackbytes can click your address and he will see an option to send blackbytes to you

Isn't there a way I can transfer them from a backup or from the config files on the old computer?  The old computer with blackbytes is disconnected from network and I reconstructed my address using my seed on the new pc.

from what i know you can only recover blackbytes is from a full backup . yes you can if your is full backup

download the new version 1.5 wallet, there is a function: settings > restore from full backup

using your seed can only recover white bytes not black
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