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March 16, 2017, 09:21:59 PM
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Is this a LetsMakeLazyWhaleBastardsRicherCoin topic?

Seriously.. you should consider relaunch with a fair distribution - each linked btc address gets equal.
Otherwise this coin is DOA.. sorry.

Just think a little before making a statement. Every linked address gets equal? Anyone can have (and link) as many addresses as they want. They are free and easy to create in any quantity.
Even if you ask for non empty ones, you would need a minimum threshold of say 0.1 btc.
And even yet, the potential for exploit would be HUGE

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March 17, 2017, 02:00:56 AM
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Is this a LetsMakeLazyWhaleBastardsRicherCoin topic?

Seriously.. you should consider relaunch with a fair distribution - each linked btc address gets equal.
Otherwise this coin is DOA.. sorry.

You have a weird definition of the word "fair".

You should create your own clone of byteball and try that distribution method and see how far you get.
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March 17, 2017, 03:33:28 AM
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Is this a LetsMakeLazyWhaleBastardsRicherCoin topic?

Seriously.. you should consider relaunch with a fair distribution - each linked btc address gets equal.
Otherwise this coin is DOA.. sorry.

how do you handle large addresses using a wallet script to split to 1000 addresses then register all addresses. not sure you thought this through...
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March 17, 2017, 04:44:30 AM
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Is this a LetsMakeLazyWhaleBastardsRicherCoin topic?

Seriously.. you should consider relaunch with a fair distribution - each linked btc address gets equal.
Otherwise this coin is DOA.. sorry.

too easy to cheat: nothing prevents me from linking one million btc addresses
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March 17, 2017, 05:51:46 AM
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Is this a LetsMakeLazyWhaleBastardsRicherCoin topic?

Seriously.. you should consider relaunch with a fair distribution - each linked btc address gets equal.
Otherwise this coin is DOA.. sorry.

too easy to cheat: nothing prevents me from linking one million btc addresses

You've got a point there, though personally signing a message a million times with the chat bot would be very difficult to do but its possible.  Grin


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March 17, 2017, 07:09:26 AM
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question guys. i participated in the 2nd round and i got some byteballs and blackbytes from the airdrop. as i understood it, i didnt have to do anything more to be able to participate in the 3rd round? i still have not received any coins from march airdrop. did i miss something? thanks in advance

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March 17, 2017, 07:15:00 AM
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question guys. i participated in the 2nd round and i got some byteballs and blackbytes from the airdrop. as i understood it, i didnt have to do anything more to be able to participate in the 3rd round? i still have not received any coins from march airdrop. did i miss something? thanks in advance

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March 17, 2017, 07:16:11 AM
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Do you know why third round of distribution coins are much more than second round? Is it because more people joint the distribution, right? And 4th round is coming soon, I can't wait.
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March 17, 2017, 07:17:29 AM
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My mind boggles at the possibilities this BTC-oracle opens up:
https://github.com/byteball/btc-oracle
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March 17, 2017, 07:35:07 AM
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question guys. i participated in the 2nd round and i got some byteballs and blackbytes from the airdrop. as i understood it, i didnt have to do anything more to be able to participate in the 3rd round? i still have not received any coins from march airdrop. did i miss something? thanks in advance

Please make sure that you updated to wallet version 1.5.1 and that you are fully synced!

thanks. i have the latest intaller on w10 now. but how do i backup the existing old wallet?

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March 17, 2017, 07:43:39 AM
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question guys. i participated in the 2nd round and i got some byteballs and blackbytes from the airdrop. as i understood it, i didnt have to do anything more to be able to participate in the 3rd round? i still have not received any coins from march airdrop. did i miss something? thanks in advance

Please make sure that you updated to wallet version 1.5.1 and that you are fully synced!

thanks. i have the latest intaller on w10 now. but how do i backup the existing old wallet?

Go to c > users > *your computer name* > AppData > Local

Then copy/backup the whole byteball folder anywhere you want.

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March 17, 2017, 09:33:16 AM
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BB needs some serious exchange

Let's bring liquidity to internal exchange.

What internal exchange? You mean cryptox? How should we increase liquidity? Don't wanna sell my byteballs and I already bought as much as I could afford  Tongue

This exchange

byteball:Ar2ukVqx309sX+LoC9RVOpfATgXskt+Ser5jVr3Q2FOo@byteball.org/bb#0000

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March 17, 2017, 09:43:55 AM
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My mind boggles at the possibilities this BTC-oracle opens up:
https://github.com/byteball/btc-oracle
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What the fuck.  Shocked

Now a merchant-bot can accept payments in BTC, and a BTC-to-Bytes or Blackbytes exchange can be implemented, and everything the peers would agree to trust is a third-party run btc-oracle.

Its even possible to have a merchantbot accept payments in btc or bytes/blackbytes, and deliver "goods" when either of these payment options are received. The best part is the merchantbot doesnt have to run its own bitcoin-node, it can just listen to btc-oracle.

Is there a plan to have a ethereum-oracle?
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March 17, 2017, 10:26:56 AM
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My mind boggles at the possibilities this BTC-oracle opens up:
https://github.com/byteball/btc-oracle
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What the fuck.  Shocked

Now a merchant-bot can accept payments in BTC, and a BTC-to-Bytes or Blackbytes exchange can be implemented, and everything the peers would agree to trust is a third-party run btc-oracle.

Its even possible to have a merchantbot accept payments in btc or bytes/blackbytes, and deliver "goods" when either of these payment options are received. The best part is the merchantbot doesnt have to run its own bitcoin-node, it can just listen to btc-oracle.

Is there a plan to have a ethereum-oracle?

Such oracles are an overkill. If we trust witnesses then we can trust data published by them. And no Merkle magic needed for that.
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March 17, 2017, 12:11:16 PM
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Dear reader,

An IOTA-developer (Come-from-Beyond) is in this Byteball thread spreading FUD and misinformation. Petty. Disregard posts.
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March 17, 2017, 12:29:03 PM
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Can someone please be so kind to help me out a little please

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March 17, 2017, 12:53:11 PM
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Dear reader,

An IOTA-developer (Come-from-Beyond) is in this Byteball thread spreading FUD and misinformation. Petty. Disregard posts.

For better visibility of your post:

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March 17, 2017, 12:55:40 PM
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misinformation

1. You claimed that Byteball is more secure than Monero and ZeroCoin. This was refuted by Byteball developer.
2. You claimed that Byteball blockchain can be compressed by violating the Law of information preservation. Nuff said.
3. You claimed that PoW can't be used as anti-Sybil measure. You still failed to explain how Bitcoin works then.

So, who is spreading misinformation?
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March 17, 2017, 12:56:43 PM
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Dear reader,

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Stating something as an overkill can be interpreted as a subjective opinion. Being more constructive in your comments might lead people to believe differently in your intentions
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March 17, 2017, 01:06:04 PM
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Stating something as an overkill can be interpreted as a subjective opinion. Being more constructive in your comments might lead people to believe differently in your intentions

Valid point.

I won't explain https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor just read the linked article.

Regarding our case, in cryptography all security assumptions are reduced to the minimal set of assumptions. The foundation of Byteball security is based on assumption that majority of the witnesses can be trusted. An obvious way to implement an oracle in such system is to require majority of witnesses to sign an oracle's statement. The link to the BTC-oracle tells that cryptographic proofs based on Merkle tree are used. This is overengineering, because if the quorum of witnesses states that a Bitcoin transaction is confirmed then we don't need to do Simple Payment Verification (which utilizes Merkle tree approach).

Even more, if we decide to create an oracle for a PoS-based coin then we can't use Merkle trees, we need to verify the complete history of payments. In other words PoS coins cannot use SPV described in Satoshi's paper. So, instead of using Merkle trees for PoW coins and something else for PoS coins we can just combine everything if we rely on the witnesses.

I hope I explained why I called BTC-oracle "an overkill". I tried to be as ELI5 as possible.
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