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Author Topic: Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments  (Read 1222724 times)
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March 17, 2017, 02:18:29 PM
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To make sure you see this:

We could find a 3rd party agent who will act as an escrow and will verify your claim without giving any information to me. How much are you willing to bet?
No. My identity and workplace is irrelevant.

Thats a poor defense when you have done uninformed decisions when making your scamcoin. You dont matter anyway, even if I would prove through 3rd party, what then, would you change Iota to not use PoW? Haha.

Iota... IoT... and Proof-of-Work.  Wink Cheesy

Here we are instead, my department developing a IoT products with Byteball. No proof-of-work, the "work" is in websocket tls, hashing and signing with secp256k1 curve, that is all for making Byteball transcations!

That is all there is to it, its simple yet so beautiful.

BTC-Oracle is genius, marvelous! Also for showing us developers how we can make our own oracle, ETH-Oracle, so our IoT-chips will be able to participate in a marketplace where value can be expressed as all btc, eth and GBYTE! We can even run our own BTC-Oracle and have our IoT chips trust it!

Can you now imagine how awesome! IoT marketplace for many cryptocoins, all with Byteball which already can run on IoTdevice without any special hardware.

(of course you cant you are iota dev with small weak mind and hurt ego and think someone else actually deciding Byteball is better must be a scammer, lol).
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March 17, 2017, 02:25:34 PM
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No...

...my department...

I think at this point everyone understands that you lie. I bet in few weeks you'll be saying "my company".

What about this?
So, once again, what do you "respectfully disagree" with?
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March 17, 2017, 02:27:22 PM
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Can you now imagine how awesome!

I can, unlike you (personally), we do work on that.
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March 17, 2017, 02:27:54 PM
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No...

...my department...

I think at this point everyone understands that you lie. I bet in few weeks you'll be saying "my company".

What about this?
So, once again, what do you "respectfully disagree" with?
Its not my own department, I am merely a Principal Developer in a department.

Stop embarrassing yourself, and go back to your Iota coin.
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March 17, 2017, 02:30:52 PM
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No...

...my department...

I think at this point everyone understands that you lie. I bet in few weeks you'll be saying "my company".

What about this?
So, once again, what do you "respectfully disagree" with?
Its not my own department, I am merely a Principal Developer in a department.

Stop embarrassing yourself, and go back to your Iota coin.

Ok, I assume I won't get an answer on what you respectfully disagreed with. I suspect the others are tired reading our convo, we'll continue after your next fuckup. I'm sure this will happen.
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March 17, 2017, 02:35:11 PM
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Ok, I assume I won't get an answer on what you respectfully disagreed with. I suspect the others are tired reading our convo, we'll continue after your next fuckup. I'm sure this will happen.
The only fuckup is you and IOTA, and your poor taste and embarrassing lies in this Byteball thread.
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March 17, 2017, 03:20:46 PM
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Maybe Come-from-Beyond is working on implementing proof-of-trolling-competitor-threads  Roll Eyes

Honestly man, if you want to have a dick waving contest with satonatomoto go do it in your own thread or in the altcoin discussion section. You're just making yourself look petty and like you have waaaaay too much time on your hands constantly posting here.

Or don't. Whatever.
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March 17, 2017, 03:28:25 PM
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You're just making yourself look petty and like you have waaaaay too much time on your hands constantly posting here.

Wait until Iota moons and CFB is rich and doesn't have to work anymore  Cheesy
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March 17, 2017, 03:32:42 PM
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Honestly man, if you want to have a dick waving contest with satonatomoto go do it in your own thread or in the altcoin discussion section.

No, thx, I'll just keep reading this thread highlighting SatoNatomato's lies.
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March 17, 2017, 04:07:05 PM
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Honestly man, if you want to have a dick waving contest with satonatomoto go do it in your own thread or in the altcoin discussion section.

No, thx, I'll just keep reading this thread highlighting SatoNatomato's lies.
Except you didnt highlight any of my "lies", but instead spread your own misguided opinions which are FUD. Exhibits

Such oracles are an overkill. If we trust witnesses then we can trust data published by them. And no Merkle magic needed for that.

Stating something as an overkill can be interpreted as a subjective opinion. Being more constructive in your comments might lead people to believe differently in your intentions
...This is overengineering,...more fud and shit.
I hope I explained why I called BTC-oracle "an overkill". I tried to be as ELI5 as possible.
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March 17, 2017, 04:21:39 PM
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Except you didnt highlight any of my "lies", but instead spread your own misguided opinions which are FUD. Exhibits

Such oracles are an overkill. If we trust witnesses then we can trust data published by them. And no Merkle magic needed for that.

Stating something as an overkill can be interpreted as a subjective opinion. Being more constructive in your comments might lead people to believe differently in your intentions
...This is overengineering,...more fud and shit.
I hope I explained why I called BTC-oracle "an overkill". I tried to be as ELI5 as possible.

I can explain this issue, if you didn't get the idea. Should I?
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March 17, 2017, 04:45:30 PM
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I can explain this issue, if you didn't get the idea. Should I?
You claimed you were highlighting my lies, in fact the opposite was true.

Your lies, among others is using the phrase "Byteball blockchain", when in fact Byteball has no blockchain in its design anywhere. Pure FUD.

No, I and others do not want more of your FUD, kindly leave this thread and go to your own coin and its thread.

If on the other hand you are so in love with arguing with me, and you wish to protect gullible people from my scam-attempts, you can at any time unban me from the IOTA thread and we will talk there, and you can protect people in that thread from my scam-attempts. Deal?
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March 17, 2017, 04:59:31 PM
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You claimed you were highlighting my lies, in fact the opposite was true.

Your lies, among others is using the phrase "Byteball blockchain", when in fact Byteball has no blockchain in its design anywhere. Pure FUD.

No, I and others do not want more of your FUD, kindly leave this thread and go to your own coin and its thread.

If on the other hand you are so in love with arguing with me, and you wish to protect gullible people from my scam-attempts, you can at any time unban me from the IOTA thread and we will talk there, and you can protect people in that thread from my scam-attempts. Deal?

It's good that you brought this topic. This is still left not answered/commented by someone knowing Byteball internals:

I'm still not convinced that Byteball is a pure DAG coin, to prove my position I would need to generate a lot of transactions on Byteball network to show that in certain conditions (related to DAG topology) TPS growth is negatively impacted by necessity to pick the main chain. If you compared Ethereum (which calls itself blockchain) and Byteball you would see that they don't differ much:

If you looked at IOTA you would see this:

I'm not interested enough to make sure that my assumption is correct, but you could help by generating a lot of transactions and posting here the topology of the resulting Byteball DAG. Try 10 TPS on the testnet maybe?

Not that it's urgent, but still...
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March 17, 2017, 05:02:46 PM
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you can at any time unban me from the IOTA thread and we will talk there

I don't longer read that thread nor moderate it, feel free to post there, but don't expect me to answer.

BTT was good for bootstrapping but now it only slows IOTA down. I can't longer dedicate my time to reading majority of posts in this thread for moderating. If anyone has questions to me, please, use PMs or go to http://slack.iota.org. If moderation is required - there are still few alive board moderators.
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March 17, 2017, 05:08:59 PM
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you can at any time unban me from the IOTA thread and we will talk there

I don't longer read that thread nor moderate it, feel free to post there, but don't expect me to answer.

BTT was good for bootstrapping but now it only slows IOTA down. I can't longer dedicate my time to reading majority of posts in this thread for moderating. If anyone has questions to me, please, use PMs or go to http://slack.iota.org. If moderation is required - there are still few alive board moderators.
What a lie, since you can be in this thread posting bullshit and FUD, and now even with pictures.

Very poor form. Embarrassing for IOTA.
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March 17, 2017, 05:09:52 PM
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Calm down! It is weekend  Smiley
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March 17, 2017, 05:11:37 PM
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What a lie, since you can be in this thread posting bullshit and FUD, and now even with pictures.

Very poor form. Embarrassing for IOTA.

I keep an eye on this thread to make sure you won't scam newbies. I already provided 3 cases when you lied, there will be more, I'm sure.
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March 17, 2017, 05:31:51 PM
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Offtopic flooding is fucking embarrassing. All started from a simple announcement of bitcoin oracle. Can we get back on topic?

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March 17, 2017, 05:59:28 PM
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Offtopic flooding is fucking embarrassing. All started from a simple announcement of bitcoin oracle. Can we get back on topic?

Agree. I suggest to focus on the following:

1. Demonstration that necessity to pick the main chain won't become a bottleneck
2. Revelation of the plan how the bloating issue will be solved
3. Revelation of the plan how a migration to a quantum-proof signature scheme will be done
4. Stress-testing of smart contracts execution, if contracts can invoke other contracts then this part should be stress-tested too
5. Explanation how all witnesses could be replaced (even if it's a long process)

I believe none of the points is an offtopic.
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March 17, 2017, 06:25:18 PM
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What a lie, since you can be in this thread posting bullshit and FUD, and now even with pictures.

Very poor form. Embarrassing for IOTA.

I keep an eye on this thread to make sure you won't scam newbies. I already provided 3 cases when you lied, there will be more, I'm sure.
It is only you who actually believes your own "points" where I "lied".

You do not keep an eye on me from scamming gullible Byteball users, you are in this thread since you are butthurt I didnt pick IOTA for IoT product but instead picked Byteball.

Now you are here to actually spread lies and FUD to what you see is a threat to your own scam attempt which is IOTA.

This is the Fear, Uncertanity and Doubt combined with pure lies you have offered so far in this thread,


1) that Byteball doesnt scale and has low transactions per second

2) Byteball is not a DAG coin and is a blockchain coin

3) That privacy and untraceable payments are unsafe and not to be relied upon and that Byteball blackbytes in effect is less than offered by ZCash and Monero.

4) Oracles, BTC-Oracle, in Byteball is overkill and over engineered

All of these have been refuted, even by tonych himself for 3, yet as a troll you continue to spam this thread. Poor form very weak.
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