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December 26, 2013, 04:07:41 PM
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sorry off topic...

Hey Phoenix1969

we both got a nice Christmas gift.. we both graduated to senior members at same time  Cheesy Grin

congratulations and Merry Christmas to you and everyone here  Wink

somewhat off topic but how exactly does that work?...time since you first made an account?



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December 26, 2013, 04:20:48 PM
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11, I hope you got someone hosting those for you. there is no way home service could support those not unless its 400amp and you don't plan on running anything else in your house.




What do you think, is it enought power?

You will need 240V and calculate at least 13A at 240V for each Neptune.  So UK houses/flats should be okay they'll just maybe need to use different circuits if they have a lot of Neptunes.  US homes usually have one 240V socket IIRC but I'm not sure what the amperage is for the socket.

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December 26, 2013, 05:07:44 PM
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US homes usually have one 240V socket IIRC but I'm not sure what the amperage is for the socket.

There really isn't a "usually" for US houses as except for newer 'track home' communities there is a huge variety in overall electrical service to the home as well as its inside wiring.  About the only thing that I believe would be pretty standard from coast to coast here is that residential service drops are 240V single phase.  What happens from there is anyone's guess depending on location, age, and homeowner's needs for 240V circuits for many kitchen appliances, clothing washer/dryer, water heater, computers, heavy tools like welders, .......
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December 26, 2013, 05:16:25 PM
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Folks seem to be assuming that a Neptune will need to be plugged into a single power outlet.

Depending on the setup, it may be possible to use 2 to 3 1200 to 1500 Watt power supplies plugged into outlets on different breakers to power 1 Neptune...
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December 26, 2013, 05:31:25 PM
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Folks seem to be assuming that a Neptune will need to be plugged into a single power outlet.

Depending on the setup, it may be possible to use 2 to 3 1200 to 1500 Watt power supplies plugged into outlets on different breakers to power 1 Neptune...

It's standard to have a couple of 240V, 32A circuits in UK houses.  So that's over 7kW per circuit.  The master fuse on the grid side of my meter is 110A but I'm not sure if that's at 240V or part of a drop down transformer.

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December 26, 2013, 05:33:21 PM
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Folks seem to be assuming that a Neptune will need to be plugged into a single power outlet.

Depending on the setup, it may be possible to use 2 to 3 1200 to 1500 Watt power supplies plugged into outlets on different breakers to power 1 Neptune...

It's standard to have a couple of 240V, 32A circuits in UK houses.  So that's over 7kW per circuit.  The master fuse on the grid side of my meter is 110A but I'm not sure if that's at 240V or part of a drop down transformer.

I have 3x 30A circuits - one just for the cooker, which I can hack into if needed and 2x for all the wall power sockets in every room. That is 14400W for all power sockets without any safety margins.
But I would never consider running more than 1 Neptune at home. I will most probably host them.
Or rent a flat as it might be cheaper  Grin

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December 26, 2013, 05:34:55 PM
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Jelin, your avatar makes me laugh.



The way she's leaning that bike over, I don't see how she's going to recover without hitting the rail on the side of the dock and maybe going over it and into the water.  I'd say the living's about to be not so easy for her.

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December 26, 2013, 06:34:21 PM
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US homes usually have one 240V socket IIRC but I'm not sure what the amperage is for the socket.

There really isn't a "usually" for US houses as except for newer 'track home' communities there is a huge variety in overall electrical service to the home as well as its inside wiring.  About the only thing that I believe would be pretty standard from coast to coast here is that residential service drops are 240V single phase.  What happens from there is anyone's guess depending on location, age, and homeowner's needs for 240V circuits for many kitchen appliances, clothing washer/dryer, water heater, computers, heavy tools like welders, .......

I wired new homes in Arizona back in the early 1970's.  Typically you'd run a couple of 12 gauge 20 amp single phase circuits to the kitchen with two duplex outlets on each, other rooms would get 14 gauge 15 amps with maybe 2 duplex outlets and maybe an overhead light but perhaps the overhead lights were on a separate circuit, my memory is hazy.  There would be 2 phase to the kitchen for an electric stove, and 2 phase to the washing machine area for the dryer.  I don't recall what those breakers were rated at but one could look in the breaker box and see.  200 amp service max total I think.

I live in a mobile home.  This is a hothouse in the summer.  I have a window AC in the living room with ducting that puts the air into the bedroom so it's a bit more quiet.  I have another AC that I mounted thru the living room wall for cooling the room but that usually isn't enough on hot days or if I'm running on my treadmill in the living room watching TV in the summer so I have a portable darlek-type (similar to a Dr. Who darlek) in the living room to pick up the slack.  There had been a single outlet on that side for the treadmill, the wall mounted AC and the portable AC so for a while I was running extension cords when on the treadmill but finally got around to putting in two additional 14-2 Romex lines each having a 15 amp breaker.  Right now I'm running a Merc upgraded to a Saturn on the other side of the room along with various laptops, a Blade, a Jalapeno and a few USB BEs in TPlink USB hubs as well as my main system.  I plan to dedicate one of those new 15 amp circuits to the Neptune and return to an extension cord for the treadmill, that to another room and circuit.   I may put all my miners into an enclosure of Styrofoam, the enclosure being fed by ducting from an AC, the AC having the fan on continually but the compressor switched by a thermal control device within the enclosure.  That would allow filtering the air.  A plus when one's dog rolls in the red Georgia dirt then scratches after he gets back in the house putting a cloud of dust into the air.

What the power supply situation turns out to be is significant.  If they include a supply, which would be nice saving us money and bother, will it be convertible 115/220?  If so I could run 14-3 to the pair of 14-2 circuits I put in for the AC & treadmill, and get 230VAC to any kind of a connector I want to use.



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December 26, 2013, 07:03:49 PM
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You wired homes in the USA and you call 240 single phase "two phase" Huh  We can just let that go though, as this thread is turning into pages of hypothetical power supply discussion. How boring!

None of us know what power supply requirements are going to be for these neptunes. What is the speculation for? Total blind guesses.
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December 26, 2013, 07:11:48 PM
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Folks seem to be assuming that a Neptune will need to be plugged into a single power outlet.

Depending on the setup, it may be possible to use 2 to 3 1200 to 1500 Watt power supplies plugged into outlets on different breakers to power 1 Neptune...

It's standard to have a couple of 240V, 32A circuits in UK houses.  So that's over 7kW per circuit.  The master fuse on the grid side of my meter is 110A but I'm not sure if that's at 240V or part of a drop down transformer.

I have 3x 30A circuits - one just for the cooker, which I can hack into if needed and 2x for all the wall power sockets in every room. That is 14400W for all power sockets without any safety margins.
But I would never consider running more than 1 Neptune at home. I will most probably host them.
Or rent a flat as it might be cheaper  Grin

Talking of electricity, how much are your miners costing a month? I am dreading getting my first electricity bill.

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December 26, 2013, 07:17:14 PM
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Folks seem to be assuming that a Neptune will need to be plugged into a single power outlet.

Depending on the setup, it may be possible to use 2 to 3 1200 to 1500 Watt power supplies plugged into outlets on different breakers to power 1 Neptune...

It's standard to have a couple of 240V, 32A circuits in UK houses.  So that's over 7kW per circuit.  The master fuse on the grid side of my meter is 110A but I'm not sure if that's at 240V or part of a drop down transformer.

I have 3x 30A circuits - one just for the cooker, which I can hack into if needed and 2x for all the wall power sockets in every room. That is 14400W for all power sockets without any safety margins.
But I would never consider running more than 1 Neptune at home. I will most probably host them.
Or rent a flat as it might be cheaper  Grin

Talking of electricity, how much are your miners costing a month? I am dreading getting my first electricity bill.

3.7TH/s @ £350 a month.

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December 26, 2013, 07:26:00 PM
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3.7TH/s @ £350 a month.

I bet E.On or whoever just love you, or think you're running a hydroponics lab.
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December 26, 2013, 07:31:29 PM
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Talking of hosting. In Europe, colocentre.nl is the cheapest place I've come across so far.
Outskirts of Rotterdam, they'll host based on the likely KWh draw you need. So far it comes out much cheaper than UK hosting places I've looked into.
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December 26, 2013, 07:33:14 PM
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Folks seem to be assuming that a Neptune will need to be plugged into a single power outlet.

Depending on the setup, it may be possible to use 2 to 3 1200 to 1500 Watt power supplies plugged into outlets on different breakers to power 1 Neptune...

It's standard to have a couple of 240V, 32A circuits in UK houses.  So that's over 7kW per circuit.  The master fuse on the grid side of my meter is 110A but I'm not sure if that's at 240V or part of a drop down transformer.

I have 3x 30A circuits - one just for the cooker, which I can hack into if needed and 2x for all the wall power sockets in every room. That is 14400W for all power sockets without any safety margins.
But I would never consider running more than 1 Neptune at home. I will most probably host them.
Or rent a flat as it might be cheaper  Grin

Talking of electricity, how much are your miners costing a month? I am dreading getting my first electricity bill.

3.7TH/s @ £350 a month.

Cheers, that is not too bad!! Who are you with?

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December 26, 2013, 08:14:25 PM
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Folks seem to be assuming that a Neptune will need to be plugged into a single power outlet.

Depending on the setup, it may be possible to use 2 to 3 1200 to 1500 Watt power supplies plugged into outlets on different breakers to power 1 Neptune...

It's standard to have a couple of 240V, 32A circuits in UK houses.  So that's over 7kW per circuit.  The master fuse on the grid side of my meter is 110A but I'm not sure if that's at 240V or part of a drop down transformer.

I have 3x 30A circuits - one just for the cooker, which I can hack into if needed and 2x for all the wall power sockets in every room. That is 14400W for all power sockets without any safety margins.
But I would never consider running more than 1 Neptune at home. I will most probably host them.
Or rent a flat as it might be cheaper  Grin

Talking of electricity, how much are your miners costing a month? I am dreading getting my first electricity bill.

3.7TH/s @ £350 a month.

Cheers, that is not too bad!! Who are you with?

M&S Energy (Scotish Electric in reality) - 11p per kWh + daily standing charge of 24.67p, which I ignore  Grin

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December 26, 2013, 08:53:42 PM
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Or my hosting Tongue
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December 27, 2013, 12:52:06 AM
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You will need 240V and calculate at least 13A at 240V for each Neptune.  So UK houses/flats should be okay they'll just maybe need to use different circuits if they have a lot of Neptunes.  US homes usually have one 240V socket IIRC but I'm not sure what the amperage is for the socket.

No need to worry. Fubly is from Europe (look at the street name at the picture) - there is 230 V.
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December 27, 2013, 02:06:36 AM
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You wired homes in the USA and you call 240 single phase "two phase" Huh  We can just let that go though, as this thread is turning into pages of hypothetical power supply discussion. How boring!

None of us know what power supply requirements are going to be for these neptunes. What is the speculation for? Total blind guesses.

Not really blind, you can figure it based on the efficiency of the chip and the hash power, and then reverse the math for the power requirements. A lot of what's being mentioned is super close. The 3TH was the upper limit for most "home based" mining systems, figured on power capabilities of most homes. KNC said they're being designed to hash more, provided you can give them more juice.

This was discussed like 10 or 20 pages ago, with really good numbers. IIRC they were saying 1750-2100watts for the 3TH, but that's just going off of memory. I know the number was high enough that most US folks would require a single circuit (20amp / 12ga wiring, with nothing else on it) per Neptune, unless using strictly 240v which is going to require an extra panel for most people who aren't willing to lose things like their ovens and whatnot.

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Long time. All Jupiters shipped? Firmware is stable? Smiley

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