Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com

[Searing]

Hmm, it seems their second batch Neptune are on sale for 9,995. I thought that price was strictly for previous customers! So first 9.5K then 12.5K and then back to 9.5K.  

you forgot to mention the month later part...  but that's the theme of this thread

By that token it should be priced at 7K. I have a feeling this is going to be like with Nov jupiters, no clear advantage to being earlier in the waiting list.

@Searing, so you plan on selling your Jupiter for the price of a pre-order Neptune? It's a gamble but *shrug* who knows what will be.

not sure not greedy.......I "supposedly" could get more then 15k from the nuts on ebay....but then again they could do a reversal....proably just get BTC from someone on here
then again I've no clue what to ask...get my ROI of 7131.80 would be nice.....(probably dreaming)

advice welcome

and hopefully I'm not off topic ..the discussion is along the lines of "what the heck is a fair price btc to folks on here (kncminer forum..not ebay) of a oct Jupiter 555.7gh unit (on slush)....more or less...uniformed (me) minds would like to know/guess....kinda sorta know?

Searing

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[jelin1984]

mine to the hashing speed go from 678 to 672 gh with new firmware

[Searing]

mine to the hashing speed go from 678 to 672 gh with new firmware

dang young duffer.....when my 'old' Jupiter 555gh unit.....I got on Oct 18th....BTC was about $150 USD.......

so my first batch is old and slow.....(the 34 btc I have so far  is nice thou!)

(frigging generic/old folks home miner jeez..what a silly hobby)

Searing

[-ck]

The knc developers and myself differ in how we like to represent hashrate. I prefer to not include hardware errors since they're not really meaningful hashes. Remember you don't get paid for hardware errors and you'll have to deduct them to figure out if your device's hashrate is higher or lower (or simply compare WU instead).

[RoadStress]

The knc developers and myself differ in how we like to represent hashrate. I prefer to not include hardware errors since they're not really meaningful hashes. Remember you don't get paid for hardware errors and you'll have to deduct them to figure out if your device's hashrate is higher or lower (or simply compare WU instead).

So you don't have good persuading skills Maybe we can convince him somehow to not include hardware errors with the help of 'Orama!

[jelin1984]

for me the beta 0.99 version have most hw errors than 0.99 normal version

[davewr2013]

The knc developers and myself differ in how we like to represent hashrate. I prefer to not include hardware errors since they're not really meaningful hashes. Remember you don't get paid for hardware errors and you'll have to deduct them to figure out if your device's hashrate is higher or lower (or simply compare WU instead).

Somewhere I saw a reference for all the codes on the CGMiner screen.

Would you be kind enough to point us to a reference?

[lemonte]

The knc developers and myself differ in how we like to represent hashrate. I prefer to not include hardware errors since they're not really meaningful hashes. Remember you don't get paid for hardware errors and you'll have to deduct them to figure out if your device's hashrate is higher or lower (or simply compare WU instead).

Somewhere I saw a reference for all the codes on the CGMiner screen.

Would you be kind enough to point us to a reference?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=28402.msg357369#msg357369

[davebodger]

Well by the morning the warm glow of reduced HW rates with the new firmware on my Nov Jup has worn off.
(avg)  667.1 (down 4GH/s) HW 1.75% (about the same as before).
The averages seem more stable and don't vary so much but overall no change for me really.
If I restart the miner the HW rate is very low for the first 15 minutes or so but then slowly starts creeping up until after a couple of hours it's back to what it was before on 0.99-E.
Reading between the lines, I guess it's performing the same but just reporting it differently.
I'm going to leave this running over Christmas now on Eligius and see how it goes long-term.

Have a great Christmas everyone!

[opentoe]

Guys, I need you help with the weirdest problem:

Since yesterday my miners have started to disappear from my local network all of a sudden and that happens too often now.

All my miners are connected to a TP-Link TL-SF1008D 8-Port 10/100Mbps Unmanaged Desktop Switch, which is then connected to my router Technicolor TG582n (given by ISP):



When the problems happens the blinking light at the back of the router, where the switch is connected has gone off, yet the all 7 lights (6 miners + incoming cable) are ON on the switch.

Until yesterday I wasn't sure what is the problem, but now I know: when I unplug the switch from the router and plug it back in = they appear back in the network.

Additionally this morning my own PC reported network conflict: some other machine on the network got its IP too, which never happened.
+ I have setup the DHCP table manually. The 101 to 106 are the miners. Before it said state USED and now it is free, but they are hashing.





Just clicked Apply in each miner Networking Tab and the FREE changed to USED in the DHCP table:



Do you have any experience with bad switches? Any ideas what is causing the issue?

Thank you.

I've had many non managed switches go bad on me. Several in just the last year. No reason or anything, they just stopped working. And I'll just end up replacing them with new ones and everything is back to normal. I have a stack of Netgear hubs all from warranty repair sitting here. I won't use any "fixed" or refurb stuff on my network. Are there any firmware updates for your router?

[CYPER]

I've had many non managed switches go bad on me. Several in just the last year. No reason or anything, they just stopped working. And I'll just end up replacing them with new ones and everything is back to normal. I have a stack of Netgear hubs all from warranty repair sitting here. I won't use any "fixed" or refurb stuff on my network. Are there any firmware updates for your router?

There usually is, but I haven't checked.
But I am fairly certain the problem was related to the DHCP pool table. It's gone now and if it happens again I know what to do.

Btw anyone know what is the current limit of the Fan headers on the boards. I would assume connecting 2-3 fans on the same header shouldn't be a problem?

[opentoe]

https://www.kncminer.com/categories/miners

Neptune Second Batch
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Neptune is our first 20nm product and will be shipping in Q2 of 2014. This order is for the second batch which will leave about one month after the first batch
The stats and performance that we can release today are
Minimum 3000GH/s of hashing speed that 3TH Over 5 times the speed of our first Jupiter release
   (we reserve the right to increase this as we get closer to shipment)
A 30% reduction in watts per GH
Based on the existing Jupiter design (See photo, however this may change as development progresses)
Shipment begins in Q2 of 2014
Bitcoins first ever 20nm miner brought to you form the company who shipped the first 28nm bitcoin miner
Limited batch of 1200 units,
Payment for this product is bitcoins and bank transfer only.
$ 9,995.00

So KNC announces they will sell Jupiters again and tell us to have our coin ready, THEN they start pre-orders for Neptune again BEFORE we hear anything about the Jupiters. They even said "So keep some coins handy as we expect them to go quick" in their newsletter. So they were basically pumping people to hold coin for their Neptune, not the Jupiter. That's pretty messed up. Why can't companies just come out and say what they mean?

[opentoe]

Out of 6 nov jupiters, I now have 3 dead moduals, and a completely dead Jupiter. RMA is pretty fast... but Ill be down almost $1k in shipping by the time this is done. Seriously thinking about just chaging back the dead one... Not worth it after 2 weeks dead then another 3 weeks in RMA.

They make you pay for shipping?

$100 per module back to sweden for each, then they want me to ship the entire Jupiter back that wont work. I don't even have RMA numbers for the last module yet.

That's strange, they gave me a paid-for shipping label sent with the RMA number when I got mine. Let us know if they do the same when you get your RMA #.

I have the RMA numbers for 1 module, and the entire Jupiter. Neither was provided with a label, and both asked me to pay for it and mark the customs down.

Even now, a multi-million dollar company with profits and large bank accounts can't pay for shipping on faulty hardware? So basically you'll just lose money this year.

[helmax]

hw errors eligius continues same
after few hours

i continue dont know why knc ask psu 1200W if only max 700w

[opentoe]

Can anybody link step-by-step instructions how to upgrade cgminer to the latest version on Jupiters?

Chill a few about to share the latest firmware with the latest CGMiner binary 3.9.0. compiled within as well as a couple of bug fixes.

Hold tight a few minutes...

Note: The problems addressed have been observed to manifest largely with the Eligius pool, however we can't say for definite it is exclusively associated with that pool, but the settings within Eligius previously compounded the issue. So expect to see a drop in HW error rate.

I will drop it in this thread, but don't currently have access to the site to update the main page, no doubt Sam will do that when he has an opportunity, but I have a flight to catch. V and I just want you to have this to play with sooner, than later...

In any case as always keep us abreast of what you observe and constructive feedback is always welcome!

Merry Xmas, God Jul, Joyeux Noel, Feliz Navidad, Fröhliche Weihnachten, Sheng Dan Kuai Le, S rozhdyestvom Hristovym! etc...sorry if i've missed anyone out I could be here all night otherwise, you get the idea

Marry xmas
I have already prepared my red xmas outfit  

I know we have some nerds here, but man! So when did KNC start handing out free t-shirts? I never got one. Only certain customer's?

[CYPER]

I know we have some nerds here, but man! So when did KNC start handing out free t-shirts? I never got one. Only certain customer's?

I got it in person in Stockholm.

[incognitoworker]

Can anybody link step-by-step instructions how to upgrade cgminer to the latest version on Jupiters?

Chill a few about to share the latest firmware with the latest CGMiner binary 3.9.0. compiled within as well as a couple of bug fixes.

Hold tight a few minutes...

Note: The problems addressed have been observed to manifest largely with the Eligius pool, however we can't say for definite it is exclusively associated with that pool, but the settings within Eligius previously compounded the issue. So expect to see a drop in HW error rate.

I will drop it in this thread, but don't currently have access to the site to update the main page, no doubt Sam will do that when he has an opportunity, but I have a flight to catch. V and I just want you to have this to play with sooner, than later...

In any case as always keep us abreast of what you observe and constructive feedback is always welcome!

Merry Xmas, God Jul, Joyeux Noel, Feliz Navidad, Fröhliche Weihnachten, Sheng Dan Kuai Le, S rozhdyestvom Hristovym! etc...sorry if i've missed anyone out I could be here all night otherwise, you get the idea

Marry xmas
I have already prepared my red xmas outfit  

I know we have some nerds here, but man! So when did KNC start handing out free t-shirts? I never got one. Only certain customer's?

Local pickup customers got em ;-)

[opentoe]

The shipping cost to us will need to be paid by customer and we will pay for the shipping cost back. Please declare value as 1000 US dollar."

I'm back! Briefly. Who could resist these developments?  

I refer everyone to my post yesterday.

I've been proven right before and I will be again. I'm confident, based on past performance and the attitude of greed and feeling no obligations towards their customers that is now plainly obvious, that this time round KNC's burning of it's customers is going to be epic. They get to spend your money, so it will be you that gets burned.

All the clues are their, the cracks in the foundation.

How correct was I? Just one day later it comes out what total scum knc are.

I said knc were another sleazy asic company and they prove it beyond doubt today. This is their t&c's:

Any return cost will be charged to the Purchaser, unless the return has been subject to the prior approval of KnCMiner.

They have approved/authorised the return but insist bobsag pays and commit a criminal offence by lying about how much it costs - to save them money! That's just plain GREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDD. And total criminality. And shows no sense of obligation to their customers who funded them with millions. It's disgusting behaviour, from a disgusting company.

And I see shillorama's posted here a number of times since bob's post and doesn't even respond, pretends nothing happened. What a bunch of fucking criminal crooks knc are turning out to be.

And now they are hocking their $13 garbage for $10k? https://www.kncminer.com/products/neptune-second-batch
$ 9,995.00

You paid ... $13k... now it's 10k, because no one wants garbage from a bunch of crooks that will be totally useless when it arrives (faulty) in 6 months time  

KNC - they are such a "good" and "reliable" company

Can't wait for their January sale, where they will sell bobsag's broken $1000 machine to you for $6000!

Good luck to all you loyal knc customers who ordered a knobtune. You really are going to need it.

Too all you who with the sense NOT to order again from the money lovin' criminals - happy hashing in 2014!

I'm real confused on the price. Difficulty has gone up, BTC has dropped and they are listing the Neptune at the same price as when they first listed it? Some of us got screwed when they lowered the price on the Saturn's in the beginning because they had to. This same situation should apply here also?

[opentoe]

Where is the new firmware ? Link ?

I stuck all the files on my owncloud if you want to grab from there.


http://www.deligny.us/public.php?service=files&t=9d1c6ccc6a5620352769a54e39640cf3

[davewr2013]

The knc developers and myself differ in how we like to represent hashrate. I prefer to not include hardware errors since they're not really meaningful hashes. Remember you don't get paid for hardware errors and you'll have to deduct them to figure out if your device's hashrate is higher or lower (or simply compare WU instead).

Somewhere I saw a reference for all the codes on the CGMiner screen.

Would you be kind enough to point us to a reference?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=28402.msg357369#msg357369

Thank you very much.