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December 22, 2013, 12:31:28 AM
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December 22, 2013, 12:37:21 AM
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nice that you guys got your payments in....what happens to orders that get canceled, or someones wife finds out what they bought, or the want a refund? does the neptune go into a waiting list of people wanting one?  If so is that list allready full?

I still would like one one day, i think the they can still make over 1 btc a day? but not really sure when they will be delivered

anyone have news on whats after the neptunes?
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December 22, 2013, 12:41:12 AM
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nice that you guys got your payments in....what happens to orders that get canceled, or someones wife finds out what they bought, or the want a refund? does the neptune go into a waiting list of people wanting one?  If so is that list allready full?

I still would like one one day, i think the they can still make over 1 btc a day? but not really sure when they will be delivered

anyone have news on whats after the neptunes?

I think in my case being so far late they just would have had an extra unit ...if I remember right I think the extra units became the "extra modules" from the upgrade batch run that went out in 6 min on the web

neptunes no idea if I would have lost my place in line if someone else would have filled it ...at the beginning before they locked it out yeah..but I kept my locked in place till it was fixed

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Bitcoinorama if you can answer this it would be appreciated! (copy sent via pm)



hey I have a question on how to pay for jupiters if/when they come out due to the network protection being void ..due to other manufactuers

I quote from the Neptune sold out last post from the main page www.kncminer.com


start of quote:

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Our first round Neptune products has now sold out.

We will be working with all of our suppliers to arrange another round of components so please keep an eye on our shop for future shipments of Neptune.

As it looks like our struggling competition may eventually ship before our Network protection period has finished, we may be in a position to release Jupiter’s and possibly upgrade cards which we will ship from stock.

If we do have more items to place in the shop for our 28nm range, we will announce this via one of our newsletters which will contain the time and date that they will go on sale. So keep some coins handy as we expect them to go quick.

A small note to say that bank transfers started on friday will be allowed. The status of your order will changed to paid when the transfer has arrived and been checked by our team.

Thanks


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on the above this line is unclear to me...does this mean that on this arrangement of other jupiters or componets...WIRE XFER will be allowed? (see below)

"A small note to say that bank transfers started on friday will be allowed. The status of your order will changed to paid when the transfer has arrived and been checked by our team."


of is that referring to something else entirely?

NOW FINALLY that I have a decent bank that can do a wire xfer in 10min...with no drama I may just want to continue to 'hoard' my coin (it is soooo puny a hoard)...so anyway whatcha think is that what that line above means or will this run on discounted Jupiters/and or components in Jan only going to be BTC?

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December 22, 2013, 01:22:46 AM
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What I believe this means was that there was an acceptable delay in payment for the wires and therefore the note acknowledges this.

Nothing's been finalised with respect to future Jupiter, or Neptune sales. Everything's been winding down here prior to Xmas with the exception of the engineers who are working through to meet some self imposed deadlines. There's some to and fro with Alchip before designs are finalised, and obviously for all concerned the sooner there is agreement with all parties the better so aside from Cust serv and finance it's still all hands on deck. I'm still coughing and spluttering, but a million times better than the tail end of Vegas, so thanks to all that said the kind words. Indeed the plane was a nightmare come landing. I couldn't equalise and my head felt it was about to detonate. I couldn't hear for 3 days. The fact I couldn't speak was largely seen as a blessing...Tongue

Anyway I see no reason why wire x-fers wouldn't be accepted for future purchase, but as it was mentioned above it does highlight the obstacles within traditional electronic payment Wink

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December 22, 2013, 01:51:23 AM
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so bad for users homemade  Angry
centralize mining
in this part knc is bad
There should be a limit 10 units maybe


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December 22, 2013, 02:00:45 AM
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Someone should tell that guy he is voiding his warranty by having them all stacked on their sides like that Cheesy

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December 22, 2013, 04:38:55 AM
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What I believe this means was that there was an acceptable delay in payment for the wires and therefore the note acknowledges this.

Nothing's been finalised with respect to future Jupiter, or Neptune sales. Everything's been winding down here prior to Xmas with the exception of the engineers who are working through to meet some self imposed deadlines. There's some to and fro with Alchip before designs are finalised, and obviously for all concerned the sooner there is agreement with all parties the better so aside from Cust serv and finance it's still all hands on deck. I'm still coughing and spluttering, but a million times better than the tail end of Vegas, so thanks to all that said the kind words. Indeed the plane was a nightmare come landing. I couldn't equalise and my head felt it was about to detonate. I couldn't hear for 3 days. The fact I couldn't speak was largely seen as a blessing...Tongue

Anyway I see no reason why wire x-fers wouldn't be accepted for future purchase, but as it was mentioned above it does highlight the obstacles within traditional electronic payment Wink

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December 22, 2013, 05:40:18 AM
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What I believe this means was that there was an acceptable delay in payment for the wires and therefore the note acknowledges this.

Nothing's been finalised with respect to future Jupiter, or Neptune sales. Everything's been winding down here prior to Xmas with the exception of the engineers who are working through to meet some self imposed deadlines. There's some to and fro with Alchip before designs are finalised, and obviously for all concerned the sooner there is agreement with all parties the better so aside from Cust serv and finance it's still all hands on deck. I'm still coughing and spluttering, but a million times better than the tail end of Vegas, so thanks to all that said the kind words. Indeed the plane was a nightmare come landing. I couldn't equalise and my head felt it was about to detonate. I couldn't hear for 3 days. The fact I couldn't speak was largely seen as a blessing...Tongue

Anyway I see no reason why wire x-fers wouldn't be accepted for future purchase, but as it was mentioned above it does highlight the obstacles within traditional electronic payment Wink

As always I think we all appreciate your efforts.....now to my next dilemma ...sell my oct Jupiter for coin and re-up on another Neptune or just run it till she winds down

hmmm..

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December 22, 2013, 07:57:50 AM
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What I believe this means was that there was an acceptable delay in payment for the wires and therefore the note acknowledges this.

Nothing's been finalised with respect to future Jupiter, or Neptune sales. Everything's been winding down here prior to Xmas with the exception of the engineers who are working through to meet some self imposed deadlines. There's some to and fro with Alchip before designs are finalised, and obviously for all concerned the sooner there is agreement with all parties the better so aside from Cust serv and finance it's still all hands on deck. I'm still coughing and spluttering, but a million times better than the tail end of Vegas, so thanks to all that said the kind words. Indeed the plane was a nightmare come landing. I couldn't equalise and my head felt it was about to detonate. I couldn't hear for 3 days. The fact I couldn't speak was largely seen as a blessing...Tongue

Anyway I see no reason why wire x-fers wouldn't be accepted for future purchase, but as it was mentioned above it does highlight the obstacles within traditional electronic payment Wink

As always I think we all appreciate your efforts.....now to my next dilemma ...sell my oct Jupiter for coin and re-up on another Neptune or just run it till she winds down

hmmm..

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how can you get another neptune? i thought they are sold out... i really wanted one, heck i might even take a 500 gh/s right now, anything is better then nothing, course a 500 gh/s might not make anything by the end of january
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how can you get another neptune? i thought they are sold out... i really wanted one, heck i might even take a 500 gh/s right now, anything is better then nothing, course a 500 gh/s might not make anything by the end of january

it'll give you some good heat till spring!

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What I believe this means was that there was an acceptable delay in payment for the wires and therefore the note acknowledges this.

Nothing's been finalised with respect to future Jupiter, or Neptune sales. Everything's been winding down here prior to Xmas with the exception of the engineers who are working through to meet some self imposed deadlines. There's some to and fro with Alchip before designs are finalised, and obviously for all concerned the sooner there is agreement with all parties the better so aside from Cust serv and finance it's still all hands on deck. I'm still coughing and spluttering, but a million times better than the tail end of Vegas, so thanks to all that said the kind words. Indeed the plane was a nightmare come landing. I couldn't equalise and my head felt it was about to detonate. I couldn't hear for 3 days. The fact I couldn't speak was largely seen as a blessing...Tongue

Anyway I see no reason why wire x-fers wouldn't be accepted for future purchase, but as it was mentioned above it does highlight the obstacles within traditional electronic payment Wink

As always I think we all appreciate your efforts.....now to my next dilemma ...sell my oct Jupiter for coin and re-up on another Neptune or just run it till she winds down

hmmm..

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how can you get another neptune? i thought they are sold out... i really wanted one, heck i might even take a 500 gh/s right now, anything is better then nothing, course a 500 gh/s might not make anything by the end of january

sorry figure of speech ment some more Jupiters if they release them in the wild before the neptunes....(I confuse easy...according to the news media I'm a lemming in this bitcoin bubble)

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December 22, 2013, 08:57:35 AM
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Next difficulty retarget occurs at block 276191.0 (eta 1.8 days): 1184765576.11 / +30.4% [est.] Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh

wow.

every time KnC hits the market this kind of growth happens.

Anyone have an an idea of in what measure other asic vendors (bitmain, bitfury, avalon 2nd gen) contributed to this last jump?

I don't think there were a lot of KNC's shipped this difficulty.  Most of the November batch would have been shipped during the previous difficulty.

I suspect that most of the TH added this difficulty were probably from private mining operations.

you were right. this is an example $2 million+ bitcoin mining facility launched in Iceland .

/sarcasm

I'm not blaiming  KnC for having sold so much hashrate to a single entity.  I'm just wondering  how many others had the same idea and were able to stash enough hash power to make their project worthty.

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December 22, 2013, 10:37:28 AM
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well 500 gh/s be the min by jan to make anything or ROI?  I see the bfl 30 to 60 gh/s selling like crazy on ebay, for 500 plus dollars, and i dont see how they can even mine.. let alone all the usb miners at less then a gh/s
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December 22, 2013, 11:13:52 AM
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well 500 gh/s be the min by jan to make anything or ROI? 

ROI is not dependent on hashrate. Its dependent on cost per hashrate. Costs and revenue scale pretty much linearly.
As for ROI, I never expected asic miners you buy from vendors to be profitable. Not back in March, not next March. There might be exceptions once in a while if you get lucky by being shipped early and other vendors being delayed, but on average IMO its a guaranteed (BTC denominated) loss.
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December 22, 2013, 11:37:03 AM
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ok now i am even more confused then before, lol..

the neptunes are 3 th/s they should make close to 1 btc a day? if so then hopfully they are paid for after a few weeks, then you have to worry about power bill i guess

Looks like i might just keep sending my btc into a cloud pool, and see what happens in the next few months, been trading for week now and am up to 3.5 bc, started at .60
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Next difficulty retarget occurs at block 276191.0 (eta 1.8 days): 1184765576.11 / +30.4% [est.] Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh

wow.

every time KnC hits the market this kind of growth happens.

Anyone have an an idea of in what measure other asic vendors (bitmain, bitfury, avalon 2nd gen) contributed to this last jump?

I don't think there were a lot of KNC's shipped this difficulty.  Most of the November batch would have been shipped during the previous difficulty.

I suspect that most of the TH added this difficulty were probably from private mining operations.

you were right. this is an example $2 million+ bitcoin mining facility launched in Iceland .

/sarcasm

I'm not blaiming  KnC for having sold so much hashrate to a single entity.  I'm just wondering  how many others had the same idea and were able to stash enough hash power to make their project worthty.

That was all October. It's cloudhashing.

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December 22, 2013, 12:10:27 PM
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ok now i am even more confused then before, lol..

the neptunes are 3 th/s they should make close to 1 btc a day?

At todays difficulty, yes. By the time you receive it, only a fraction of that, and by the end of next year, probably just bitcoin dust.
How much and how fast exactly difficulty will go up is anyone's guess, it depends among other things how many people think like you, but its not going to remain where it is now. A hint:

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December 22, 2013, 12:39:21 PM
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Ok, for those that like using Eligius, one of our software engineers has been working tirelessly y'day and this morn chasing ghosts to create a patch that fixes excessive hardware errors reported by CGMiner. We've seen this propagate more at Eligius than other pools we've tried.

So here's a fix for the issue that appeared to be in the KnC driver code of CGMiner.

Anyone on Eligius (Bargraphics for sure) care to confirm the improvement?

We've had it running for an hour on the box I was running around the States with the last couple of weeks, and there's a significant improvement, but we need more guinea pigs to confirm...Wink

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 Root cause of the problem: several work items were assigned the same
  work_id in the active works queue of the knc driver. Thus when good
  nonce report arrived from the FPGA, wrong work item was picked up from
  the queue, and submit_nonce evaluated that as an error.
  Fix: Limit the work_id counter update rate. Update it only to the number of
  works actually consumed by the FPGA, not to the number of works send.

https://github.com/KnCMiner/cgminer/commit/ff0dbafe804925c93dad5b74a4f040d12a20dcae

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Hi Orama,

is this patch for both October and November Jupiters?

and how is it applied?

thanks
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