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December 17, 2013, 05:07:37 AM
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Strange though we don't hear anything from KNC about ANYTHING until some news about other companies coming out with a possible delivery. I bet that made KNC's head turn a little bit...so much they had to make a news annoucement in advertising selling hardware again. Pretty soon we will have other companies to finally choose from and won't be locked to a mouse quiet KNC. Even to this day, have they helped anyone on their own forum? Even after saying they would provide that support. It will definitely make me think twice if I buy any more hardware.

KNC will have ZERO 28nm competition until March/April.  All of the other companies have committed to multiple batches that won't finish shipping until then.  And until then, KNC will be they only vendor able to ship from stock if they so choose.

"First to market" is a massive advantage for KNC and you can bet that they will take full advantage of it.
I was thinking KNC would be on Neptune 20nm by then, and there simply is no competition....  Wink

The bolded sentence simply means that no other 28nm competitor will be selling units from stock like KNC could theoretically do if they wanted.  All other competitors are committed to fulfilling preorder batches until March/April.
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December 17, 2013, 05:14:03 AM
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Anyone have an inside scoop of when KNC will possibly list Jupiters? It will be Christmas in 11 days, then New Year's so anything to do with shipping will be delayed or who knows what. Are they thinking of releasing maybe this week, the next? I'm probably positive someone must have called them to ask. And most likely wouldn't post that "secret" info here.

Given their stated reasoning for releasing another batch, I would expect them to wait until a competitor actually ships something.

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December 17, 2013, 05:18:37 AM
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Anyone have an inside scoop of when KNC will possibly list Jupiters? It will be Christmas in 11 days, then New Year's so anything to do with shipping will be delayed or who knows what. Are they thinking of releasing maybe this week, the next? I'm probably positive someone must have called them to ask. And most likely wouldn't post that "secret" info here.

Given their stated reasoning for releasing another batch, I would expect them to wait until a competitor actually ships something.

HashFast has to be damn close by now.  Right?
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December 17, 2013, 07:07:43 AM
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Anyone have an inside scoop of when KNC will possibly list Jupiters? It will be Christmas in 11 days, then New Year's so anything to do with shipping will be delayed or who knows what. Are they thinking of releasing maybe this week, the next? I'm probably positive someone must have called them to ask. And most likely wouldn't post that "secret" info here.


Given their past pricing trend I am expecting the new batch to be anywhere between USD 2995-3995

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December 17, 2013, 07:08:27 AM
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Phoenix:

Not having a go here, I assure you. Just wondering, because I'd like to know where to rank what you say.

In the past, because I follow this board, I've seen your ... hundreds of posts.
Some have been helpful, and I found some, like I'm sure a lot here did - kind of hilarious, as we watched you stumble through trying to set up your first saturn and posting here every 10 minutes ... then, the more recent "humblebrags" that have served to make some people angry.

That said, some of you stuff has been genuinely helpful.

But, to my question:
Can you disclose the nature of your relationship with KNC please? Like, fully? ... ie: what discounts you may or may not have gotten, etc?

Again, not having a go at you .... just wondering what weight to put on what you say. And, I don't mean that negatively. Like, I envy your close relationship. Same as I envy bitcoinorama for stepping up like he did. He earned his rep here as a solid dude, and his position shouldn't be begrudged.

At any rate, genuinely curious, not trying to be a dick. Feel free to PM, if you'd rather do that.

- Canadian early Oct. Jup owner, for the record.
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December 17, 2013, 07:10:54 AM
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I hope that KNC sells their premined miners for BTC only. Show some love for the btc faithful, not just those who mine and cash out to fiat immediately.

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December 17, 2013, 07:31:48 AM
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https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-73

they say they will release jupiters for sale.

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December 17, 2013, 07:35:47 AM
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Anyone have an inside scoop of when KNC will possibly list Jupiters? It will be Christmas in 11 days, then New Year's so anything to do with shipping will be delayed or who knows what. Are they thinking of releasing maybe this week, the next? I'm probably positive someone must have called them to ask. And most likely wouldn't post that "secret" info here.


Given their past pricing trend I am expecting the new batch to be anywhere between USD 2995-3995

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December 17, 2013, 07:39:58 AM
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Anyone have an inside scoop of when KNC will possibly list Jupiters? It will be Christmas in 11 days, then New Year's so anything to do with shipping will be delayed or who knows what. Are they thinking of releasing maybe this week, the next? I'm probably positive someone must have called them to ask. And most likely wouldn't post that "secret" info here.


Given their past pricing trend I am expecting the new batch to be anywhere between USD 2995-3995

fingers crossed!


yeah pricing at the last module price would be iffy to buy imho ...right now my Jupiter at 555.2gh is making around .26 coin a day so at 1000 bucks a 144gh module ..er imho that won't fly..but then again people betting on bitcoin price rises maybe it would


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December 17, 2013, 08:11:03 AM
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Has there been anyone else mentioning that they can't change their pool config on their hosted miners?  KNC seems to have changed up the interface and I can no longer make any changes... Clicking Save just reverts it to the previous settings.
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December 17, 2013, 10:13:06 AM
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Was just browsing knc forum and just thought I'd mention to keep miners horizontal not vertical. Knc will not issue rma for damage done if used vertically.

http://forum.kncminer.com/forum/main-category/hardware/24251-can-you-place-the-miner-nov-jupiter-on-its-side-and-is-65c-hotter-than-normal?_=1387273529972

I had my oct jup on its side when I first received but it slotted in better in my room horizontally lucky for me I probably would have just assumed that like a PC I just could store it any which way
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December 17, 2013, 11:48:35 AM
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https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-73

they say they will release jupiters for sale.

Old news.  And don't expect a massive price decrease or you'll be majorly disappointed.
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December 17, 2013, 12:04:14 PM
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Anyone have an inside scoop of when KNC will possibly list Jupiters? It will be Christmas in 11 days, then New Year's so anything to do with shipping will be delayed or who knows what. Are they thinking of releasing maybe this week, the next? I'm probably positive someone must have called them to ask. And most likely wouldn't post that "secret" info here.


Given their past pricing trend I am expecting the new batch to be anywhere between USD 2995-3995

fingers crossed!

 It's absurd to think KNC will be selling Jupiters from stock for approximately the same $/GH as Neptunes that won't be available until Q1-Q2 of 2014.

We'll be lucky if they don't raise the price from batch 2.  I hope I'm wrong but I don't think I am.
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December 17, 2013, 12:11:14 PM
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Network Protection Statement only makes sense in case buying option is limited to existing customers and @absolutely competitive price. Let's see  Cool

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December 17, 2013, 12:11:34 PM
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Prepare yourself for the next major spike in difficulty...


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December 17, 2013, 12:20:54 PM
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Network Protection Statement only makes sense in case buying option is limited to existing customers and @absolutely competitive price. Let's see  Cool

Argh, here we go again!

Competitive price means what exactly?  No one else will be selling a 28nm miner off-the-shelf ready for immediate shipping other than KNC.  Therefore KNC has no competition and can set the price wherever they want.

Do you think HashFast or Cointerra can actually be considered competition?  If they are to be considered competition you would need to receive your HashFast miner the same time as you would an order from KNC. Unfortunately if you ordered from HashFast today you wouldn't get your miner until April.  Hardly competition then, right?  Besides, those batch 1 BsbyJets cost a fortune when they were ordered many months ago.

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December 17, 2013, 12:23:16 PM
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Prepare yourself for the next major spike in difficulty...



they haven't even shown a fully hashin miner...   they seem to be going through the prep but just two picks of what?  measuring what? and wrapping up some extra power cables?


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December 17, 2013, 12:30:05 PM
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So I have one november jupiter that refuses to stay on. Tried each individual ASIC separately, no dice, tried swapping the 1500w EVGA with a 860W Corsair, corsair didnt even turn it on (fans spun up but BBB no lights). Anyone got any ideas?

I'd guess there's a ribbon cable plugged backwards to the controller board possible or faulty cabling to the BBB.
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December 17, 2013, 12:31:18 PM
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Prepare yourself for the next major spike in difficulty...


when hashfast will be start to shipping the miners?
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December 17, 2013, 12:44:57 PM
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Network Protection Statement only makes sense in case buying option is limited to existing customers and @absolutely competitive price. Let's see  Cool

Argh, here we go again!

Competitive price means what exactly?  No one else will be selling a 28nm miner off-the-shelf ready for immediate shipping other than KNC.  Therefore KNC has no competition and can set the price wherever they want.

Do you think HashFast or Cointerra can actually be considered competition?  If they are to be considered competition you would need to receive your HashFast miner the same time as you would an order from KNC. Unfortunately if you ordered from HashFast today you wouldn't get your miner until April.  Hardly competition then, right?  Besides, those batch 1 preorders cost a fortune.



You are correct. Right now they could sell as many Jup as they want. They would sell them from stock asap even price tagged at 10k due to non existing competition.

...But - judging their overall beheviour from the past - I think they will honour their Network Protection Statement which has only one purpose: To protect the network share of existing customers (batch 1 & batch 2 Jup and to some extend Neptune pre-order guys).

This means
a) They do it coordinated (announce sales and condition 2-3 days in advance)
b) They sell relatively cheap (lower than the potential maximum market price e.g. between 3-5k)
c) They sell only to existing customers in limited amount (maybe 1 unit per previous unit bought)

This would be perfect execution and I would draw my head. Maybe, only maybe - they will just pump & dumb for all at premium price generating maximum profit - definitely a possibility... but I doubt that

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