Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com

[joeventura]

So now they provide an update on Titan, but crickets regarding Neptune:

https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-80

Yeah, lend them $10k now and then get delivery in December. Maybe.

J

I will bet you 100 Bitcoins, KnC will ship Titan before December 2014.  Would like to retract your ridiculous statement now?

Retract the statement but DO NOT take that bet!~

[RenHoek]

KnCMiner Network Protection Statement
 At KnCMiner we are aware of the service we are providing to our customers. We are also aware that we need our customers to have a return on their devices in order to purchase form us again. With the scale of the supply chains, agreements and factories we have access to, we need to be cautious we don’t ship too many devices and therefore reduce the return to our customers.  So with that in mind our plan is to do as follows:
  
 We will ship no devices in December 2013, January 2014 or  February 2014. Meaning that once we have taken the difficulty up at the end of November we will not release any more hashing power for 3 months. We will then release our new generation of devices, which will begin shipping in March 2014. These devices will also have a much higher GH/$ rating than any of our current offerings.  
 We would like to state that If any of our competitors continues to add large amounts of hashing power to the network during December, January or February. We will continue to release our devices as competitively priced as we can to protect our customers share of the network.
The Fact is:
As of April 1, KNC will be delay in delivery of Neptunes

Doesn't that statement predate the announcement of Neptunes?
It certainly doesn't form any part of the contract you agreed with KNC.

KnC itself, has also been associated with the statement after the announcement of the Neptunes.
and it thus verified to be valid:

To repeat: It certainly doesn't form any part of the contract you agreed with KNC.

maybe i am silly and aq Kind naive but:

i only decidet to order neptunes in sight of this Statement above.


i only didn't spend BTC to other preorders, in sight of this:

"If we do have more items to place in the shop for our 28nm range, we will announce this via one of our newsletters which will contain the time and date that they will go on sale. So keep some coins handy as we expect them to go quick."

so i trusted them. too bad!

they screwed me, and i past the possiblity to order other Hardware wich was delivered allready.

they has to compensate me for thair faults!

[pedrosoft]

KnCMiner Network Protection Statement
 At KnCMiner we are aware of the service we are providing to our customers. We are also aware that we need our customers to have a return on their devices in order to purchase form us again. With the scale of the supply chains, agreements and factories we have access to, we need to be cautious we don’t ship too many devices and therefore reduce the return to our customers.  So with that in mind our plan is to do as follows:
  
 We will ship no devices in December 2013, January 2014 or  February 2014. Meaning that once we have taken the difficulty up at the end of November we will not release any more hashing power for 3 months. We will then release our new generation of devices, which will begin shipping in March 2014. These devices will also have a much higher GH/$ rating than any of our current offerings.  
 We would like to state that If any of our competitors continues to add large amounts of hashing power to the network during December, January or February. We will continue to release our devices as competitively priced as we can to protect our customers share of the network.
The Fact is:
As of April 1, KNC will be delay in delivery of Neptunes

Doesn't that statement predate the announcement of Neptunes?
It certainly doesn't form any part of the contract you agreed with KNC.

KnC itself, has also been associated with the statement after the announcement of the Neptunes.
and it thus verified to be valid:

To repeat: It certainly doesn't form any part of the contract you agreed with KNC.

maybe i am silly and aq Kind naive but:

i only decidet to order neptunes in sight of this Statement above.


i only didn't spend BTC to other preorders, in sight of this:

"If we do have more items to place in the shop for our 28nm range, we will announce this via one of our newsletters which will contain the time and date that they will go on sale. So keep some coins handy as we expect them to go quick."

so i trusted them. too bad!

they screwed me, and i past the possiblity to order other Hardware wich was delivered allready.

they has to compensate this!

I'm worried about BicoinOrama... His personal twitter account has no tweets from a long time. Here he's a gosth. Has BitcoinOrama been eaten from MEGASYPSUPERSEXYEXTRAPOWERTOP Knc mining farm ?

[jimmothy]

KnCMiner Network Protection Statement
 At KnCMiner we are aware of the service we are providing to our customers. We are also aware that we need our customers to have a return on their devices in order to purchase form us again. With the scale of the supply chains, agreements and factories we have access to, we need to be cautious we don’t ship too many devices and therefore reduce the return to our customers.  So with that in mind our plan is to do as follows:
  
 We will ship no devices in December 2013, January 2014 or  February 2014. Meaning that once we have taken the difficulty up at the end of November we will not release any more hashing power for 3 months. We will then release our new generation of devices, which will begin shipping in March 2014. These devices will also have a much higher GH/$ rating than any of our current offerings.  
 We would like to state that If any of our competitors continues to add large amounts of hashing power to the network during December, January or February. We will continue to release our devices as competitively priced as we can to protect our customers share of the network.
The Fact is:
As of April 1, KNC will be delay in delivery of Neptunes

Doesn't that statement predate the announcement of Neptunes?
It certainly doesn't form any part of the contract you agreed with KNC.

KnC itself, has also been associated with the statement after the announcement of the Neptunes.
and it thus verified to be valid:

To repeat: It certainly doesn't form any part of the contract you agreed with KNC.

maybe i am silly and aq Kind naive but:

i only decidet to order neptunes in sight of this Statement above.

That is not only naive but most likely not true.

I find it hard to believe that you would believe a statement made in JULY would mean a guaranteed shipping date of unannounced next gen hardware.

You didn't question the fact that when the neptune was announced and preorders opened there was no mention of march shipping date?

[RenHoek]

KnCMiner Network Protection Statement
 At KnCMiner we are aware of the service we are providing to our customers. We are also aware that we need our customers to have a return on their devices in order to purchase form us again. With the scale of the supply chains, agreements and factories we have access to, we need to be cautious we don’t ship too many devices and therefore reduce the return to our customers.  So with that in mind our plan is to do as follows:
  
 We will ship no devices in December 2013, January 2014 or  February 2014. Meaning that once we have taken the difficulty up at the end of November we will not release any more hashing power for 3 months. We will then release our new generation of devices, which will begin shipping in March 2014. These devices will also have a much higher GH/$ rating than any of our current offerings.  
 We would like to state that If any of our competitors continues to add large amounts of hashing power to the network during December, January or February. We will continue to release our devices as competitively priced as we can to protect our customers share of the network.
The Fact is:
As of April 1, KNC will be delay in delivery of Neptunes

Doesn't that statement predate the announcement of Neptunes?
It certainly doesn't form any part of the contract you agreed with KNC.

KnC itself, has also been associated with the statement after the announcement of the Neptunes.
and it thus verified to be valid:

To repeat: It certainly doesn't form any part of the contract you agreed with KNC.

maybe i am silly and aq Kind naive but:

i only decidet to order neptunes in sight of this Statement above.

That is not only naive but most likely not true.

I find it hard to believe that you would believe a statement made in JULY would mean a guaranteed shipping date of unannounced next gen hardware.

You didn't question the fact that when the neptune was announced and preorders opened there was no mention of march shipping date?

they have never taken back this Statement! they broken thair promises!

maybe we civilisated european ppl are different to us ppl. for us, a contract or Statement is valid till it officially taken back! this is a unwritten law!

sweden is european. why u think they deleted this post in thair Forum, instead of reacting with a answer?

[jimmothy]

they have never taken back this Statement!

maybe we european ppl are different to us ppl. for us, a contract or Statement is valid till it officially taken back! this is a unwritten law!

Here in the real world unwritten laws are imaginary.

They actually did take back the statement when they replaced it with the statement " Shipment begins in Q1/Q2 of 2014"

So they will not be late until July 1st

[RenHoek]

they have never taken back this Statement!

maybe we european ppl are different to us ppl. for us, a contract or Statement is valid till it officially taken back! this is a unwritten law!

Here in the real world unwritten laws are imaginary.

They actually did take back the statement when they replaced it with the statement " Shipment begins in Q1/Q2 of 2014"
So they will not be late until July 1st

in fact, exactly this do not mean that "beginning of shippment is on march" is taken back! both are possible together, the old one is not broken!

[murraypaul]

maybe i am silly and aq Kind naive but:

i only decidet to order neptunes in sight of this Statement above.

Even though the actual Neptune announcement clearly said Q1/Q2?

i only didn't spend BTC to other preorders, in sight of this:

"If we do have more items to place in the shop for our 28nm range, we will announce this via one of our newsletters which will contain the time and date that they will go on sale. So keep some coins handy as we expect them to go quick."

so i trusted them. too bad!

they screwed me, and i past the possiblity to order other Hardware wich was delivered allready.

they has to compensate me for thair faults!

Not a chance in hell, I'm afraid.
You can get a refund if you want, but they bear no financial responsibility for your actions.

[murraypaul]

they have never taken back this Statement!

maybe we european ppl are different to us ppl. for us, a contract or Statement is valid till it officially taken back! this is a unwritten law!

Here in the real world unwritten laws are imaginary.

They actually did take back the statement when they replaced it with the statement " Shipment begins in Q1/Q2 of 2014"
So they will not be late until July 1st

in fact, exactly this do not mean that "beginning of shippment is on march" is taken back! both are possible together, the old one is not broken!

March in in Q1.
Saying shipping in Q1/Q2 says (to anybody other than you, apparently) that they are not promising to ship in March.
I don't think anyone could sensibly read 'Shipment begins in Q1/Q2 of 2014' as actually meaning 'Shipment begins in March 2014'

[RenHoek]

they have never taken back this Statement!

maybe we european ppl are different to us ppl. for us, a contract or Statement is valid till it officially taken back! this is a unwritten law!

Here in the real world unwritten laws are imaginary.

They actually did take back the statement when they replaced it with the statement " Shipment begins in Q1/Q2 of 2014"
So they will not be late until July 1st

in fact, exactly this do not mean that "beginning of shippment is on march" is taken back! both are possible together, the old one is not broken!

March in in Q1.
Saying shipping in Q1/Q2 says (to anybody other than you, apparently) that they are not promising to ship in March.

I don't think anyone could sensibly read 'Shipment begins in Q1/Q2 of 2014' as actually meaning 'Shipment begins in March 2014'

exactly shipping IN q1/q2 is meanig:  shipping beginns between januar1. and march 30., and ends between april1. and juny31.!

or 1. Batch in q1 and following in q2

or between q1 and q2, what exactly is march 30. at 12 pm.

nothing else!

only shipping  in 1. half of 2014  means beginnig and end  till Juni. 31

only q2 means exactly q2

[murraypaul]

in fact, exactly this do not mean that "beginning of shippment is on march" is taken back! both are possible together, the old one is not broken!

March in in Q1.
Saying shipping in Q1/Q2 says (to anybody other than you, apparently) that they are not promising to ship in March.
I don't think anyone could sensibly read 'Shipment begins in Q1/Q2 of 2014' as actually meaning 'Shipment begins in March 2014'

exactly shipping IN q1/q2 is meanig:  shipping beginns between januar1. and march 30., and ends between april1. and juny31.!

or bettween q1 and q2 what exactly is march 30. at 12 pm.

No, it doesn't.
You can say it as much as you like, but no native English speaker would agree with you.
Shipping in Q1/Q2 means shipping in Q1 or Q2, that is anywhere from January 1st to June 30th.
That is simply what it means

[Biffa]

Could you stop quoting him please? Ta   

[thomashrev89]

in fact, exactly this do not mean that "beginning of shippment is on march" is taken back! both are possible together, the old one is not broken!

March in in Q1.
Saying shipping in Q1/Q2 says (to anybody other than you, apparently) that they are not promising to ship in March.
I don't think anyone could sensibly read 'Shipment begins in Q1/Q2 of 2014' as actually meaning 'Shipment begins in March 2014'

exactly shipping IN q1/q2 is meanig:  shipping beginns between januar1. and march 30., and ends between april1. and juny31.!

or bettween q1 and q2 what exactly is march 30. at 12 pm.

No, it doesn't.
You can say it as much as you like, but no native English speaker would agree with you.
Shipping in Q1/Q2 means shipping in Q1 or Q2, that is anywhere from January 1st to June 30th.
That is simply what it means

One thing you can agree on is that KNC F'ed you hard.

[mo_mo]

anyone still holding the first customer batch neptune order?

[RoadStress]

anyone still holding the first customer batch neptune order?

I am!

[lemonte]

Me too. Waiting for the specs before I make a decision.

[mo_mo]

I feel the same, more details need to be announced but then again difficulty is going up so fast...

[Zelek Uther]

anyone still holding the first customer batch neptune order?

Yep

[lemonte]

I feel the same, more details need to be announced but then again difficulty is going up so fast...

I wish they'd be a bit more forthcoming with information, fingers crossed things start to look up.

[pedrosoft]

I have a second batch order.... Your opinion... Have I to request a refund ?