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March 27, 2014, 09:21:35 PM
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Me too. Waiting for the specs before I make a decision.

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March 27, 2014, 09:25:00 PM
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I feel the same, more details need to be announced but then again difficulty is going up so fast...
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March 27, 2014, 09:25:18 PM
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anyone still holding the first customer batch neptune order?
Yep

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March 27, 2014, 09:28:09 PM
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I feel the same, more details need to be announced but then again difficulty is going up so fast...

I wish they'd be a bit more forthcoming with information, fingers crossed things start to look up.

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March 27, 2014, 09:35:22 PM
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I have a second batch order.... Your opinion... Have I to request a refund ? Smiley
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March 27, 2014, 09:47:31 PM
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I have a second batch order.... Your opinion... Have I to request a refund ? Smiley

Taped Out in March: https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-78
TSMC 20nm cycle time (masks creation) is 4-5 months. Samples in July / August. Miners probably in August / September

Spondoolies is back with the SPx36: https://www.spondoolies-tech.com/products/spx36
New Mimblewimble implementation: https://www.beam-mw.com/
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March 27, 2014, 09:50:58 PM
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I have a second batch order.... Your opinion... Have I to request a refund ? Smiley

Taped Out in March: https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-78
TSMC 20nm cycle time (masks creation) is 4-5 months. Samples in July / August. Miners probably in August / September


I'm worried about this... any other opinions ?
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March 27, 2014, 09:53:32 PM
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I have a second batch order.... Your opinion... Have I to request a refund ? Smiley

Taped Out in March: https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-78
TSMC 20nm cycle time (masks creation) is 4-5 months. Samples in July / August. Miners probably in August / September


I'm worried about this... any other opinions ?

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March 27, 2014, 09:56:10 PM
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I have a second batch order.... Your opinion... Have I to request a refund ? Smiley

Taped Out in March: https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-78
TSMC 20nm cycle time (masks creation) is 4-5 months. Samples in July / August. Miners probably in August / September


I'm worried about this... any other opinions ?

From tapeout to mass production can be done within seven weeks if everything goes OK.  While tapeout was in February so 20nm starting to ship late April is a very real possibility.  They're just trolling hard for their own hardware sales.

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March 27, 2014, 10:01:11 PM
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From tapeout to mass production can be done within seven weeks if everything goes OK
TO - beginning of March.

Tapeout to samples:

40nm, 28nm - 8 weeks
20nm - 4-5 months

Prove me wrong.

Spondoolies is back with the SPx36: https://www.spondoolies-tech.com/products/spx36
New Mimblewimble implementation: https://www.beam-mw.com/
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March 27, 2014, 10:03:11 PM
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From tapeout to mass production can be done within seven weeks if everything goes OK
TO - beginning of March.

Tapeout to samples:

40nm, 28nm - 8 weeks
20nm - 4-5 months

Prove me wrong.

We'll find that one out by May.  KNC went from receiving working chips to shipping miners in about one week last time IIRC.

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March 27, 2014, 10:04:31 PM
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I have a second batch order.... Your opinion... Have I to request a refund ? Smiley

I'd hold, at least until I knew specs, but it's your money.

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March 27, 2014, 10:06:00 PM
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From tapeout to mass production can be done within seven weeks if everything goes OK
TO - beginning of March.

Tapeout to samples:

40nm, 28nm - 8 weeks
20nm - 4-5 months

Prove me wrong.

Source?
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March 27, 2014, 10:10:32 PM
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From tapeout to mass production can be done within seven weeks if everything goes OK
TO - beginning of March.

Tapeout to samples:

40nm, 28nm - 8 weeks
20nm - 4-5 months

Prove me wrong.
Any industry data you can provide to back up this claim? The burden of proof is actually on you if you are making the claims

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March 27, 2014, 10:13:14 PM
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Any industry data you can provide to back up this claim? The burden of proof is actually on you if you are making the claims
Common knowledge in the Silicon industry. Ask any vendor about TSMC 20nm cycle time.
Dig around, it's easy to find.

Spondoolies is back with the SPx36: https://www.spondoolies-tech.com/products/spx36
New Mimblewimble implementation: https://www.beam-mw.com/
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March 27, 2014, 10:19:29 PM
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anyone still holding the first customer batch neptune order?

I'm still long on Neptune CA!

My Saturns paid for Neptune CA.
If I never plug it in I'm still ahead Smiley

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March 27, 2014, 10:36:35 PM
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From tapeout to mass production can be done within seven weeks if everything goes OK
TO - beginning of March.

Tapeout to samples:

40nm, 28nm - 8 weeks
20nm - 4-5 months

Prove me wrong.

Maybe KnC have very good relations and they can get it faster. They do chips for 10 years. Can't be all in vain.

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TO - beginning of March.

Tapeout to samples:

40nm, 28nm - 8 weeks
20nm - 4-5 months

Prove me wrong.

Maybe KnC have very good relations and they can get it faster. They do chips for 10 years. Can't be all in vain.

KnC has boat load of money from self-mining and it is in their best interest to pay whatever extra expedite fee to get the process shorten so they can self-mine sooner (time = money in bitcoin mining).  And it is also in TSMC's best interest to produce the new 20nm wafer at faster and faster pace, time is also money in their business.  The less time it takes, the more 20nm wafers they can make for other customers = more money.  Besides, what better marketing for more 20nm business if they can tell their other potential customers they have gotten the 20nm manufacturing time down to 8 weeks or less.
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March 27, 2014, 11:03:41 PM
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Any industry data you can provide to back up this claim? The burden of proof is actually on you if you are making the claims
Common knowledge in the Silicon industry. Ask any vendor about TSMC 20nm cycle time.
Dig around, it's easy to find.

If we are talking industry standards (rather than just dropping a number and providing nothing to back it up), vendors would say:

"Also, if you think about 28nm, the time from tapeout to sample is three to four months." (http://semiengineering.com/experts-at-the-table-changes-in-the-ecosystem-2/)

So if 3-4 months is actually 8 weeks, does that means 4-5 months is actually 10 weeks?

Good luck. You're not really helping yourselves with the abrasive attitude. Prove me wrong? Huh.

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March 28, 2014, 12:39:55 AM
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if it's the not diff they are killing you with, it will be the price drop of btc from their dumps that will be last nail for any KNC customer

btc < $500  how you not refund on Neptune is just loony


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