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April 03, 2018, 06:48:17 AM

Different approaches.  I try to sell some on the way down and rebuy on the way back up (lower than what I sold it for).

I am too scaredy cat for that style...  Cry

It’s a recipe for regularly losing small amounts of money with a goal of occasionally earning large amounts.  The trick, as always, is guessing when to sell so you can quickly move your stops down.  Buying is easy as the market normally takes out my stops.  

Always bad timing for me!.. Then FOMO kicks in!..
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April 03, 2018, 07:32:16 AM

10,000 BTC were moved from Nobuaki Kobayashi (MtGox) wallet. I suppose this action is responsible for today green market.
https://blockchain.info/address/16rCmCmbuWDhPjWTrpQGaU3EPdZF7MTdUk

Stay focused and do not get caught. Todays growth can not be counted for 100% as a market recovery.
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April 03, 2018, 07:33:17 AM

Different approaches.  I try to sell some on the way down and rebuy on the way back up (lower than what I sold it for).

What sort of QTY are you dealing with? Less than 1BTC or More than 1BTC?

There's a first rule of bitcoin, which is to talk about bitcoin, but don't talk about your qty of bitcoin.  

Didn't you know that?

Sorry i didn't know that... I was just wondering how much BTC or $$$ some people here are dealing with...

From time to time, some guys (and gal) do slip up and they will reveal more specifics about their qty of BTC, yet frequently guys and gal here in this thread, talk in terms of percent or in terms of vague concepts of how far the BTC price might move in one direction or another before they make their next buy/sell move and sometimes guys (and gal) will disclose how much of their BTC holdings they are trading versus keeping in cold storage.

Frequently, you can still say quite a lot about what you are doing, and what is your trading, holding or whatever BTC plan without giving away too much personal information. 

I frequently criticize guys and gal who seem to employ too much of a gambling strategy with their BTC that is not very well thought through.. like for example when someone might go 100% in one direction or another.  I think that there are ways of going BIG (such as maybe even up to 95% or something like that) and still hold some reserve in case you are wrong. 

I also am not comfortable with margin or leverage, and I also sometimes think that any trader may open himself (herself) up to manipulation when employing those kinds of leverage/margin tools, but I think that a few guys and gal here have decently disclosed some abilities to make profits, even using leverage/margin tools.

 Sure some braggadocio might become a bit too much from time to time in terms of abilities to predict BTC price direction or even profit levels that might cause some to wonder whether the poster is posting honestly... or even if such bragging is necessary or helpful to anyone besides the ego or the trolling of the poster.

Sometimes in this thread some folks will also attempt to trick peeps into providing more information about their qty of btc, by having them tell us one piece of information at a time, and sometimes after a while in reading posts you can come to decent estimations regarding how much BTC, dollars or other coins some posters might be working with.. even though the first rule of fight club (bitcoin) still tends to be relatively widely understood.   Wink Wink
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April 03, 2018, 07:36:23 AM
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Where are all the GENTS/SIR’S/BOSSES off the merit sources to help out the little man, in This context like me 

One simple rule. Make me laugh, get a merit. It's automatic.

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How do we know that you are the real arkian?  The latest posts from you (before your posting hiatus) were related to your getting some of your accounts hacked into, so what happened to all of that?  Did your BTC talk account get hacked into, too, and then you are not the real deal?  Did you lose any BTC during the hacking attempts?  what was your reason for your hiatus?  was it because of the hackings or something else?

first, arklan. L. Cheesy

the hacking didn't access my account here. yes, i lost some BTC, .001 mined at slush pool, which they had changed the payout address. other then that, they tried something with my phone, but i reverted that before any damage. a guy was private messaging me about a similar hack attempt happening to him at the same time, (back around thanksgiving i think this was, when the hack actually occured.)  the hiatus... if you look at my posting history, it's not uncommon for me to poof for a few weeks or whatever. totally unrelated to any of the hacking. i get absorbed in other things, or busy at work, whatever. then don't check the forum for a couple days, then end up with a stack of notifications about replies to threads i'm watching, then put off checking it... and put it off, and off, and off...

also, if you really wanted, there should be a picture of me, real world, here somewhere. from when i ran the group buy of the first asic usb sticks from friedcat back in 2013 or whatever it was. i could, if someone felt it needed, take a recent pic of myself. a comparison of the two would be rather definitive.

but since i'm not attempting any business or asking for money or whatever, what's the point?

i don't even know what this merit stuff is, honestly. someone said "make me laugh" so i told the lamest joke i have memorized. Cheesy
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April 03, 2018, 07:46:15 AM

Where are all the GENTS/SIR’S/BOSSES off the merit sources to help out the little man, in This context like me  

One simple rule. Make me laugh, get a merit. It's automatic.

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two fish are sitting in a tank. one turns to the other and says, "Man, i have no idea how to drive this thing." Cheesy


How do we know that you are the real arkian?  The latest posts from you (before your posting hiatus) were related to your getting some of your accounts hacked into, so what happened to all of that?  Did your BTC talk account get hacked into, too, and then you are not the real deal?  Did you lose any BTC during the hacking attempts?  what was your reason for your hiatus?  was it because of the hackings or something else?

first, arklan. L. Cheesy

the hacking didn't access my account here. yes, i lost some BTC, .001 mined at slush pool, which they had changed the payout address. other then that, they tried something with my phone, but i reverted that before any damage. a guy was private messaging me about a similar hack attempt happening to him at the same time, (back around thanksgiving i think this was, when the hack actually occured.)  the hiatus... if you look at my posting history, it's not uncommon for me to poof for a few weeks or whatever. totally unrelated to any of the hacking. i get absorbed in other things, or busy at work, whatever. then don't check the forum for a couple days, then end up with a stack of notifications about replies to threads i'm watching, then put off checking it... and put it off, and off, and off...

also, if you really wanted, there should be a picture of me, real world, here somewhere. from when i ran the group buy of the first asic usb sticks from friedcat back in 2013 or whatever it was. i could, if someone felt it needed, take a recent pic of myself. a comparison of the two would be rather definitive.

but since i'm not attempting any business or asking for money or whatever, what's the point?

i don't even know what this merit stuff is, honestly. someone said "make me laugh" so i told the lamest joke i have memorized. Cheesy

Fair enough.

Your writing style does seem to be similar, and you are correct that there would not be any major point in proving that you are the one and only arkian... original.. classic... etc.

Merit has gotten quite a bit of discussion recently.. but a decent starting point to get a quick overview of it would be to look at theymos's merit introduction thread.  

I gave you 1 merit, and I would have given you 2, but I wanted to punish you for abandoning us in the last few months.    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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April 03, 2018, 07:47:07 AM

Different approaches.  I try to sell some on the way down and rebuy on the way back up (lower than what I sold it for).

What sort of QTY are you dealing with? Less than 1BTC or More than 1BTC?

There's a first rule of bitcoin, which is to talk about bitcoin, but don't talk about your qty of bitcoin.  

Didn't you know that?

Sorry i didn't know that... I was just wondering how much BTC or $$$ some people here are dealing with...

I think you'll find most wall observers have somewhere in the neighbourhood of about 3000 coins each. Collectively we could bring this entire market to it's knees. Be afraid.
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April 03, 2018, 07:51:38 AM
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10,000 BTC were moved from Nobuaki Kobayashi (MtGox) wallet. I suppose this action is responsible for today green market.
https://blockchain.info/address/16rCmCmbuWDhPjWTrpQGaU3EPdZF7MTdUk

Stay focused and do not get caught. Todays growth can not be counted for 100% as a market recovery.

I was expecting hoping? for something like this, but what makes you say that 16rCmCmbuWDhPjWTrpQGaU3EPdZF7MTdUk is MtGox coins? Don't see address in his list or you just FUDing?

Edit: Ahh that address has BTC142k in it so calling FUD on MtGox link
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April 03, 2018, 07:56:50 AM

Different approaches.  I try to sell some on the way down and rebuy on the way back up (lower than what I sold it for).

What sort of QTY are you dealing with? Less than 1BTC or More than 1BTC?

There's a first rule of bitcoin, which is to talk about bitcoin, but don't talk about your qty of bitcoin.  

Didn't you know that?

Sorry i didn't know that... I was just wondering how much BTC or $$$ some people here are dealing with...

I think you'll find most wall observers have somewhere in the neighbourhood of about 3000 coins each. Collectively we could bring this entire market to it's knees. Be afraid.

Oh my??  

The fierceness of the Rosewater lion is rearing its head....  kind of like this:




or this:

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April 03, 2018, 07:59:37 AM

"Toe in the water" sentiment measurement on Reddit and Twitter this afternoon, feels like the bulls are getting restless... Waiting for a trigger.
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April 03, 2018, 08:04:11 AM

Different approaches.  I try to sell some on the way down and rebuy on the way back up (lower than what I sold it for).

What sort of QTY are you dealing with? Less than 1BTC or More than 1BTC?

There's a first rule of bitcoin, which is to talk about bitcoin, but don't talk about your qty of bitcoin.  

Didn't you know that?

Sorry i didn't know that... I was just wondering how much BTC or $$$ some people here are dealing with...

I think you'll find most wall observers have somewhere in the neighbourhood of about 3000 coins each. Collectively we could bring this entire market to it's knees. Be afraid.

Oh my??  

The fierceness of the Rosewater lion is rearing its head....  kind of like this:




or this:



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April 03, 2018, 08:09:32 AM

10,000 BTC were moved from Nobuaki Kobayashi (MtGox) wallet. I suppose this action is responsible for today green market.
https://blockchain.info/address/16rCmCmbuWDhPjWTrpQGaU3EPdZF7MTdUk

Stay focused and do not get caught. Todays growth can not be counted for 100% as a market recovery.

I was expecting hoping? for something like this, but what makes you say that 16rCmCmbuWDhPjWTrpQGaU3EPdZF7MTdUk is MtGox coins? Don't see address in his list or you just FUDing?

Edit: Ahh that address has BTC142k in it so calling FUD on MtGox link

Wow!.. $72,000,000.00 moved, all for $0.30 in fees!...
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April 03, 2018, 08:21:58 AM

10,000 BTC were moved from Nobuaki Kobayashi (MtGox) wallet. I suppose this action is responsible for today green market.
https://blockchain.info/address/16rCmCmbuWDhPjWTrpQGaU3EPdZF7MTdUk

Stay focused and do not get caught. Todays growth can not be counted for 100% as a market recovery.

I was expecting hoping? for something like this, but what makes you say that 16rCmCmbuWDhPjWTrpQGaU3EPdZF7MTdUk is MtGox coins? Don't see address in his list or you just FUDing?

Edit: Ahh that address has BTC142k in it so calling FUD on MtGox link

Wow!.. $72,000,000.00 moved, all for $0.30 in fees!...

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April 03, 2018, 08:43:33 AM
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Different approaches.  I try to sell some on the way down and rebuy on the way back up (lower than what I sold it for).

What sort of QTY are you dealing with? Less than 1BTC or More than 1BTC?

There's a first rule of bitcoin, which is to talk about bitcoin, but don't talk about your qty of bitcoin.  

Didn't you know that?

Sorry i didn't know that... I was just wondering how much BTC or $$$ some people here are dealing with...

I think the highest amount anyone in this thread has ever revealed is about .5 BTC. You have to give it to him though...he's pretty rich now after holding for 5 years.

A vast majority of our discussions are on tax compliance and how best to follow the rules.

It has been generally accepted that we all just go ahead and pay extra on top of any taxes earned just to be on the safe side. However nobody here actually gives any tax advice as we are not certified attorneys and that would be highly illegal, which is the last thing any of us want to do.

Some discussion is on how to become an IRS agent as that is the ideal job for anyone and we all wish we could be one but we're mostly not smart enough for such a prestigious career.
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April 03, 2018, 09:03:11 AM

No. In 2014 hodlers were showing off screenshots of their bitstamp accounts with 250+ BTC.
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April 03, 2018, 09:03:40 AM

Different approaches.  I try to sell some on the way down and rebuy on the way back up (lower than what I sold it for).

What sort of QTY are you dealing with? Less than 1BTC or More than 1BTC?

There's a first rule of bitcoin, which is to talk about bitcoin, but don't talk about your qty of bitcoin.  

Didn't you know that?

Sorry i didn't know that... I was just wondering how much BTC or $$$ some people here are dealing with...

I think the highest amount anyone in this thread has ever revealed is about .5 BTC. You have to give it to him though...he's pretty rich now after holding for 5 years.

A vast majority of our discussions are on tax compliance and how best to follow the rules.

It has been generally accepted that we all just go ahead and pay extra on top of any taxes earned just to be on the safe side. However nobody here actually gives any tax advice as we are not certified attorneys and that would be highly illegal, which is the last thing any of us want to do.

Some discussion is on how to become an IRS agent as that is the ideal job for anyone and we all wish we could be one but we're mostly not smart enough for such a prestigious career.

Had a casual conversation with an accountant over the weekend about paying tax. Guess I’ll know more in a few years. Also it’s different here in the U.K.
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April 03, 2018, 09:04:03 AM

No. In 2014 hodlers were showing off screenshots of their bitstamp accounts with 250+ BTC.

Foolish

Doesn’t matter if it’s 0.3 or 300. Never do that!!
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April 03, 2018, 09:05:35 AM

So, you guys ready for tears or will we wait till Wednesday?
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So, you guys ready for tears or will we wait till Wednesday?

So tell us Jacques, what’s the price going to do this week?  Give us some hard numbers to work with.  

And while you are at it, tell us what’s going to happen in the second half of April.  I will happily accept a price range for that period.  

 If you want to make a contribution, provide some analysis.  Provide reasons.   Otherwise it’s just a circle jerk. 
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April 03, 2018, 09:19:06 AM

Hey Guys,

I Believe that the price is beeing manipulated up by whales, i have been watching bitfinex orderbook and there are many large buys of 50+ coins when price drops a little. Dont you Think that they are running up the price towards the Death Cross to dump it when it crosses? Tone Vays has talked alot of that you shouldn't short the Death Cross if the price is below it. So i belive they run it up towards it so they will be able to dump it.

What do you think of my theory?

I also see that markets allover the World are crumbeling, maby next financial crisis is here, so this i bullish.

 
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Hey Guys,

I Believe that the price is beeing manipulated up by whales, i have been watching bitfinex orderbook and there are many large buys of 50+ coins when price drops a little. Dont you Think that they are running up the price towards the Death Cross to dump it when it crosses? Tone Vays has talked alot of that you shouldn't short the Death Cross if the price is below it. So i belive they run it up towards it so they will be able to dump it.

What do you think of my theory?

I also see that markets allover the World are crumbeling, maby next financial crisis is here, so this i bullish.

 

It already crossed a few days ago. Right now bears are getting rekt. But they will never admit it. They say they are in control.
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