That's my bullish input for all you moon boys anyway.
Not going to win too many friends in these parts by referring to peeps here (and assumingly HODLers and accumulators) as moon boys. But, hey, do what you feel that you must.
Sorry, that BTC prices are moving against your anticipations
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Not really. 
It's ok I'm not looking for friends, just to learn from others
Fair enough. I am similar in regards to merely attempting to share information and sometimes even be combative in terms of ideas that might be taken too personally from time to time, when they are meant to be substantive assertions.
So sometimes if any of us calls another a dumbass or some other inflammatory assertion, it may be attempting to exaggerate a substantive assertion rather than any kind of personal attack.
You're right, it did go against how I anticipated though, not going to deny that
The trouble with any assertions of price direction is attempting to assign the right probabilities and even then still getting the matter wrong. So, even though I have seen recent analysis from you that were going in both directions, I had concluded that you were anticipating more down rather than up, but cannot really fault you for that, just picking on you a bit. Your analysis do not tend to be too unreasonable, so it can be difficult to disagree when you at least attempt to back them up and even allow for reasonable anticipations that the price might move against your predictions from time to time.
Lucky I didn't get rekt™ shorting really.
I would hope that most experienced short term traders do anticipate losing on trades from time to time, and sure some traders will win more often than others or protect their position more than others.
I surely don't proclaim to be a short-term trader, even though I engage in practices that are similar to short-term traders by creating both buy orders or sell orders, but I rarely will adjust my trade orders based on my expectations of price movements because I barely have any confidence regarding my own expectations that go much beyond a few percentage point changes in one direction or another and usually NOT enough for me to change my behaviors much if any.
Didn't realise moon boys was offensive though, I thought anyone who believes a $100K BTC is possible in the near future was a moon boy by default. We're all moon boys? Maybe men still get offended by being called boys I dunno, I forget to keep check of these things.
I am not exactly sure why it is offensive either, but I can tell by reading it that it is problematic to be generalizing and using diminuitive terms that lump everyone into the same category while suggesting that you are not in that category.
Your first comment did not seem to include yourself into the "moon boy" category, so it seemed that you were referring to others in this thread, and maybe even criticizing one of the prominent lauded qualities of folks in this thread, which is the BTC HODLer and accumulators.
I do believe that there are all kinds of variations in the expectations of thread participants regarding how far and how fast they expect BTC to arrive at certain price points, including how much certainty is assigned to such predictions. Sure, some of us talk about those ideas more than others, but even with that opinions vary amongst members and even vary within the same member if asked during a dip or a pump or even with the passage of time. Look at mindrust, he is all over the place, and that is part of his human endearingness, but he still seems to be attempting to follow a practice to maximize his accumulation of BTC.. and even doing some dumb things (or having some dumb ideas) along the way and trying to learn from that. His learning teaches many of the rest of us and allows us to learn or even share some of our own mistakes or even some of our bad thinking in regards to our bitcoin strategies or even figuring out if we might need to control our emotions a bit more or to have some more emotions.. including getting carried away.. including yours truly from time to time..
Yeah, some of us can become quite stubborn or even abrasive in our presentation of ideas (including yours truly), but there is still a lot of variation, even with HODLers and accumulators... and surely a lot of us here share another commonality, which are disinclinations towards people talking down the BTC price, so in that sense maybe we can be considered moon boys in that regard, but you can likely appreciate that many active participators in this thread come to this thread and investing into bitcoin in order to want to see bitcoin succeed, so there seems to be some cognitive dissonance when people are participating in a thread like this but talking against bitcoin, so that remains part of the reason why bears are going to naturally have a harder time and more of a need to back up their statements of certitude.
Maybe moon men would be more appropriate, but doesn't have the ring to it.
Probably more about the way you say it rather than what you say... and yeah, I am not always the nicest chap in the thread, and I surely have received my share of criticisms and even deeply felt dislikes by some members, but some times points can be made without adding insults... I would agree that if your comment had seemed to include yourself as a fellow moon boy, then with that kind of tone, then it would NOT have been as offensive.. but you know that you were using the term as a differentiator and even a kind of dig rather than suggesting that you were in the same group, and maybe even a bit of an emotional dig because BTC's price is continuing to have upwards pressures that might continue to go against your short term expectations.
Regarding my current short-term BTC expectations, I don't really know what to think. It is feeling kind of bullish, but I understand that the upwards movement can stop at any time. And, we surely cannot ignore what is going on in the alt coin space and/or considerations regarding whether those pumpenings are going to end up affecting BTC price dynamics.. fuck.. you never really know. The whole space could continue to pump for a while, or it could just implode.. I could implode proportionately or it could implode with inverse correlations. Who the fuck expected that scam coin Bcash sv to pump 200%.. and yeah, folks like jbreher or even some of the other bcash supporters will be gloating, but still those outrageous moves can end up wreaking all kinds of havoc in the short term that is not really easy to predict with any degree of certainty, and I suppose that most of the experienced and successful traders will be hedging in various ways to the extent that they do not have a large amount of insider knowledge about some material event(s).
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