MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering]

[techmars]

Has there been any meaningful updates?
Looks like this debacle is now in the back of people's minds.

I understand that Mr. Kobayashi, the court-appointed liquidation supervisor,  has sent out paper mail to all known MtGOX customers asking them to fill some claim form until some deadline.  No further news are expected until that deadline.  Perhaps someone who got said p-mail can fill in the details.

where is the claim form ?
any link to download the form ?

Cool down. Here's the current status (as of July 23rd 2014):

Filing of proof of bankruptcy claims
With respect to filing of proofs of bankruptcy claims in this case, since extremely
large number of creditors exist all over the world, I am considering to implement a
reasonable and smooth method of filing. For such purposes, it is necessary (i) to
sufficiently confirm, with the cooperation of professionals, the details and method
of use of data regarding the business of the bankrupt entity, which I preserved, and
(ii) to consider the situation of the investigation of the background behind the
disappearance of BTC. Accordingly, it is expected to take a few months to
determine the filing method. In light of this, although the deadline for filing the
proof of claims of bankruptcy in these bankruptcy proceedings is set as November
28, 2014, I consider it is necessary and reasonable to postpone the date to
reasonable timing.

so this is the reply on the papaer from Nobuaki Kobayashi ?

[Trupik]

Has there been any meaningful updates?
Looks like this debacle is now in the back of people's minds.

I understand that Mr. Kobayashi, the court-appointed liquidation supervisor,  has sent out paper mail to all known MtGOX customers asking them to fill some claim form until some deadline.  No further news are expected until that deadline.  Perhaps someone who got said p-mail can fill in the details.

where is the claim form ?
any link to download the form ?

Cool down. Here's the current status (as of July 23rd 2014):

Filing of proof of bankruptcy claims
With respect to filing of proofs of bankruptcy claims in this case, since extremely
large number of creditors exist all over the world, I am considering to implement a
reasonable and smooth method of filing. For such purposes, it is necessary (i) to
sufficiently confirm, with the cooperation of professionals, the details and method
of use of data regarding the business of the bankrupt entity, which I preserved, and
(ii) to consider the situation of the investigation of the background behind the
disappearance of BTC. Accordingly, it is expected to take a few months to
determine the filing method. In light of this, although the deadline for filing the
proof of claims of bankruptcy in these bankruptcy proceedings is set as November
28, 2014, I consider it is necessary and reasonable to postpone the date to
reasonable timing.

so this is the reply on the papaer from Nobuaki Kobayashi ?

The paper (actually a post card) was sent by Tokyo District Court. Regarding Proofs of claims it says (quote):

2     The form, etc. for filling the proofs of claims is expected to be disclosed separately in the website hosted by bankruptcy trustee (http://www.mtgox.com/), but it is expected to need a certain period before distributing such format, etc. for filling proofs of claims.

So, you did not miss anything. The post card is completely useless and there are more information on the website already.

[bitcoinvest]

Greetings,

I am trying to find the posts on the website of MtGox.com at the time they shut it down.
So i tried the https://archive.org/

I did not managed to find anything After Oct 2013 is just NOT working for the next months and works only at the latest updates they have now on MtGox.com

So what is going on? Why internet Archive deleted if so?

Anyone to help me??

[bitcoinvest]

Greetings,

I am trying to find the posts on the website of MtGox.com at the time they shut it down.
So i tried the https://archive.org/

I did not managed to find anything After Oct 2013 is just NOT working for the next months and works only at the latest updates they have now on MtGox.com

So what is going on? Why internet Archive deleted if so?

Anyone to help me??

I am not sure what you are looking for but I've got a lot of .pdf files and some .html's of their press release stories up to the point where they shut down.

http://btccharts.everdot.org/misc/clowncar/pdf/

GREAT job i downloaded everything!!!!!! THANK YOU indeed, i am actually trying to find out the first updates they had on the website. Do you remebmer? when you could not even login to see your balance?
After realized they had erased from Internet Archive THERE MUST be a good reason in order to do that....THINK!!!
I realized that yesterday. I had registered the domain name: mtgox.gr months ago and by that time i had asked for mtgox.com to translate the whole website and also be available to Greek Market.... without even getting a reply on that... so after not doing anything with this domain i actually found what to do. www.mtgox.gr just uploaded yesterday after 3 hours of my idea. So why i am searching all these? it's obvious they want to hide something. I lost 99% in MtGox. i have all the support desk messages i want the whole world to read the truth of what happened. THEY KNEW what was going on and they kept the Site open in order to manipulate the price. So having some facts that prove this want also to find  those updates i am talking about and gather everything on mtgox.gr and my second goal is i want to try and gather some BTC or Fiat to hire a Private Investigator. Mark had enough time to come clear up to know but this can't continue!

[Tzupy]

New announcement: https://www.mtgox.com/img/pdf/20140728_announcement.pdf
Extended until 29th May 2015 for the claims filing, so it's going to take a looong time...

[AFox]

New announcement: https://www.mtgox.com/img/pdf/20140728_announcement.pdf
Extended until 29th May 2015 for the claims filing, so it's going to take a looong time...

Anyways, how do you actually fill a claim ?


Edit : From one of their documents (https://www.mtgox.com/img/pdf/20140723_report_en.pdf)

1. Filing of proof of bankruptcy claims
With respect to filing of proofs of bankruptcy claims in this case, since extremely large number of creditors exist all over the world, I am considering to implement a reasonable and smooth method of filing. For such purposes, it is necessary
(i) to sufficiently confirm, with the cooperation of professionals, the details and method of use of data regarding the business of the bankrupt entity, which I preserved, and
(ii) to consider the situation of the investigation of the background behind the disappearance of BTC. Accordingly, it is expected to take a few months to determine the filing method. In light of this, although the deadline for filing the proof of claims of bankruptcy in these bankruptcy proceedings is set as November 28, 2014, I consider it is necessary and reasonable to postpone the date to reasonable timing.

2. Provision of information on WebSite
Since extremely large number of creditors exist all over the world in this case, I plan to disclose information, etc., necessary for creditors regarding this case on the WebSite (https://www.mtgox.com), which I manage as such as possible from time to time.

[JorgeStolfi]

New announcement: https://www.mtgox.com/img/pdf/20140728_announcement.pdf
Extended until 29th May 2015 for the claims filing, so it's going to take a looong time...

Anyways, how do you actually fill a claim ?

Edit : From one of their documents (https://www.mtgox.com/img/pdf/20140723_report_en.pdf)

1. Filing of proof of bankruptcy claims
With respect to filing of proofs of bankruptcy claims in this case, since extremely large number of creditors exist all over the world, I am considering to implement a reasonable and smooth method of filing. For such purposes, it is necessary
(i) to sufficiently confirm, with the cooperation of professionals, the details and method of use of data regarding the business of the bankrupt entity, which I preserved, and
(ii) to consider the situation of the investigation of the background behind the disappearance of BTC. Accordingly, it is expected to take a few months to determine the filing method. In light of this, although the deadline for filing the proof of claims of bankruptcy in these bankruptcy proceedings is set as November 28, 2014, I consider it is necessary and reasonable to postpone the date to reasonable timing.

2. Provision of information on WebSite
Since extremely large number of creditors exist all over the world in this case, I plan to disclose information, etc., necessary for creditors regarding this case on the WebSite (https://www.mtgox.com), which I manage as such as possible from time to time.

This text is written by Mark. It is surprising that he is allowed to have any voice about (or control of) the proceedings at all...

[Nagle]

This text is written by Mark. It is surprising that he is allowed to have any voice about (or control of) the proceedings at all...

Yes. Especially since this is a straight liquidation, not a debtor-in-possession situation.

The trustee is not doing his job if this is going on.

[Nagle]

Greetings,

I am trying to find the posts on the website of MtGox.com at the time they shut it down.
So i tried the https://archive.org/

I did not managed to find anything After Oct 2013 is just NOT working for the next months and works only at the latest updates they have now on MtGox.com

So what is going on? Why internet Archive deleted if so?

The Internet Archive runs about six months behind real time. That's done to reduce copyright complaints about them hosting the information of other sites. The data is not lost; it will appear in the future.

[Alex_green]

Creditors, please read this:


Debt repayment of the company Mt.Gox
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=716917.0

[iikun]

Creditors, please read this:


Debt repayment of the company Mt.Gox
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=716917.0

yeah, that's fishier than Tsukiji Fish Market.

3.1 To confirm the Bitcoin purse you must make a transfer for any amount from the purse, from which you deposited the balance of the cabinet of Bitcoin MtGox to the address of personal cabinet presented in section "Deposit"

[Newar]

yeah, that's fishier than Tsukiji Fish Market.

3.1 To confirm the Bitcoin purse you must make a transfer for any amount from the purse, from which you deposited the balance of the cabinet of Bitcoin MtGox to the address of personal cabinet presented in section "Deposit"

Why send coins when you simply could sign a message with that address?

[JorgeStolfi]

Creditors, please read this:
Debt repayment of the company Mt.Gox
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=716917.0

is that message from the widow of a Nigerian minister?

[mgroenouwe]

http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/07/30/tokyo-police-formally-investigate-missing-bitcoin/?mod=WSJBlog

The police say they suspect 27,000 bitcoins were withdrawn through illegal computer access.

[Newar]

The police say they suspect 27,000 bitcoins were withdrawn through illegal computer access.

[/quote]

A zero short?

[bitcoinvest]

seem that someone wants to gox the victims for second time


For me they want you to give all those details ( that will probably asked by the proof of claims ) and after that will try to claim those for them ! NOT FOR YOU


SCAM in my opinion 1000%


That is the address on Google Maps : )






so may i please ask someone can help me and send me the first posts that MtGox.com gave to the public... if you enter www.mtgox.gr at the welcome page i have one there to undestand what i ask. If i remember correct those where 3-4 posts. so if anyone has those PLEASE reply here.

I do believe that they are trying to erase something that could help us realize what is going on.

A member here told me that is not strange not to see the page of MtGox.com from internet archive BUT i checked other sites on same period and are working just fine! So it's only MtGox.com that is not showing the page for that period ( end of 2013 and 2 months starting 2014.) you can check for yourself!!!

Put a random website on https://archive.org/web/ for January for example... and then put the MtGox.com website ....

[Newar]

[...]
Put a random website on https://archive.org/web/ for January for example... and then put the MtGox.com website ....

Their crawler does not index the whole internet every day or week or month. Unless somebody submitted the link manually chances are, there will be gaps.


Edit: Have you tried to talk to: http://www.mtgoxprotest.com/ ? They might have some screenshots etc.

[bitcoinvest]

[...]
Put a random website on https://archive.org/web/ for January for example... and then put the MtGox.com website ....

Their crawler does not index the whole internet every day or week or month. Unless somebody submitted the link manually chances are, there will be gaps.


Edit: Have you tried to talk to: http://www.mtgoxprotest.com/ ? They might have some screenshots etc.

i have posted a comment on latest article but not published 10 days now....

mtgoxprotest.com - Kolin Burges is not updating anything at all.. it seems very strange to me... we have so many updates on the case and his website i believe have a lot o visit but NO UPDATES! why???

Edit: Speaking about news ckeck them if you haven't

http://mtgox.gr/tokyo-police-formally-investigate-missing-bitcoin

http://mtgox.gr/why-mark-karpeles-should-be-in-jail-20140804163955

[Newar]

[...]  we have so many updates on the case and his website i believe have a lot o visit but NO UPDATES! why???

This may be a silly question, but did you ask him?

[bitcoinvest]

yes i have send email at first, after that i wrote a comment on the first article at mtgoxprotest.com and still nothing....