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Author Topic: [1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool  (Read 2032864 times)
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April 06, 2015, 02:25:58 AM
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Haha. No worries. Smiley

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April 06, 2015, 03:19:44 PM
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When it starts taking you longer to find a share than it does for the pool to find a block you perceive your mining to be "wasted" because blocks will be found for which you receive no payment.

I've not been active in the bitcoin community for a long time now, just randomly popped in the thread to see what's up, and I see this is still a topic of conversation. It's important to note (as you did) it is simply perception/variance, and people don't actually lose any income. If you can only find 1 share every 2 blocks, that share will pay enough that the income per block is still the correct average. This was a common point of confusion and misinformation a year ago. I suspect it will persist forever.
Welcome back... haven't seen you for a while Smiley.  You're right, not a whole lot has changed.  There's still excitement when we find blocks, disappointment when we don't and the rest of the time is spent discussing the same topics: variance and its effect on miners, how to address the problem of variance with "small" miners, if anyone has a solution to the scaling problem...

Pool hash rate has gone up to 4PH/s and down as low as 800TH/s.  Share difficulty has run the gamut as well.  Windpath has done some really nice work and his site has become the de-facto goto for p2pool-related stats.

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April 06, 2015, 06:22:34 PM
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Holy smoke - seems it was one of my old S3's that found that last block!

Outstanding  Grin

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April 06, 2015, 06:25:14 PM
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Holy smoke - seems it was one of my old S3's that found that last block!

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Glad you decided to point them here, then Smiley

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April 06, 2015, 06:27:21 PM
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Holy smoke - seems it was one of my old S3's that found that last block!

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Glad you decided to point them here, then Smiley

Yeah, I'll keep a few here, as long as the hash rate stays low........ Cheesy

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April 06, 2015, 06:28:00 PM
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Holy smoke - seems it was one of my old S3's that found that last block!

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Awesome!

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April 06, 2015, 10:21:46 PM
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Holy smoke - seems it was one of my old S3's that found that last block!

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Good job!  Grin
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April 07, 2015, 11:41:38 AM
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Holy smoke - seems it was one of my old S3's that found that last block!

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Thank you sir, may I have another?

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April 07, 2015, 05:17:08 PM
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Holy smoke - seems it was one of my old S3's that found that last block!

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Thank you sir, may I have another?

Working on it....... Cheesy

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April 07, 2015, 08:41:41 PM
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Welcome back... haven't seen you for a while Smiley.  You're right, not a whole lot has changed.  There's still excitement when we find blocks, disappointment when we don't and the rest of the time is spent discussing the same topics: variance and its effect on miners, how to address the problem of variance with "small" miners, if anyone has a solution to the scaling problem...

Pool hash rate has gone up to 4PH/s and down as low as 800TH/s.  Share difficulty has run the gamut as well.  Windpath has done some really nice work and his site has become the de-facto goto for p2pool-related stats.

Looked over Windpath's site, looks cool. Smiley I remember the Node Stats was the front end I liked and used on my pools. I see my blocklines pull request did get merged in. mmouse and iongchun had made some nice tweaks as well. iongchun added a link on the default page addresses to an address-specific page, where all stats were based just for yourself. Quite nice and personal for a no-login stat system.

I eventually turned my own little miners off (just an S1 and a couple tiny things) so I don't have the hash power to even bother with alt coins any more. The hassle of IRS reporting when they released their guidelines is what was the nail in the coffin for me.

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April 07, 2015, 08:44:19 PM
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For small miners there was that proxypool project,

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=461632.0

but it appears he's been out of the forum for a year as well and his pool is gone.

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April 08, 2015, 12:23:18 PM
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roy7 - take a look at what OgNasty and Nonnakip have done with their NastyPoP implementation.  You can see my long-running thread about it here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=891298.0.

Windpath - coincadence.com is not showing block 351173.  Are you still adding blocks that come from orphaned/dead shares to the site manually?

OgNasty/Nonnakip - same thing on the NastyPoP distribution window standings page at nastyfans.org/miners.  351173 is missing.

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April 08, 2015, 12:59:01 PM
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For small miners there was that proxypool project,

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=461632.0

but it appears he's been out of the forum for a year as well and his pool is gone.

OGNasty launched a p2pool proxy for smaller miners at https://nastyfans.org/nastypool/

It works well, and OG has earned the trust of his community.


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April 08, 2015, 01:07:51 PM
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roy7 - take a look at what OgNasty and Nonnakip have done with their NastyPoP implementation.  You can see my long-running thread about it here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=891298.0.

Windpath - coincadence.com is not showing block 351173.  Are you still adding blocks that come from orphaned/dead shares to the site manually?

OgNasty/Nonnakip - same thing on the NastyPoP distribution window standings page at nastyfans.org/miners.  351173 is missing.

Ha! Beat me to it on the OG pool Smiley

The short answer to your question is "sometimes"(TM), I'm catching a much higher % of them then before, but some still need to be manually added (like 351173), since monitoring each block does not seem to be working well I may add a fail-safe where it also looks at my mining address for generation TX's it might have missed. It's not ideal but will catch them all as long as I have a share Wink

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April 08, 2015, 11:53:09 PM
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OGNasty launched a p2pool proxy for smaller miners at https://nastyfans.org/nastypool/

It works well, and OG has earned the trust of his community.

Ahh okay cool, glad someone ran with the idea. clown's ProxyPool he originally only ran for Doge. The code was open sourced, I thought about trying to get it going for regular bitcoin, but he wrote it in Haskell (I think it was), which made my eyes bleed trying to learn. Finally gave up as being too hard to learn a really weird new language just to run a p2pool proxy that noone might use. Smiley

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April 13, 2015, 12:16:51 AM
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Street Closed, Pending Block Party

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April 13, 2015, 03:56:02 PM
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P2pool is seeing the worst luck in last 3 months.
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April 13, 2015, 05:13:25 PM
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Why isn't http://p2pool.info/ up-to-date?

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April 13, 2015, 05:14:59 PM
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P2pool is seeing the worst luck in last 3 months.
That shouldn't matter so much in the long. Most p2pool users are in it for the long haul, no?

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