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Author Topic: [1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool  (Read 2028942 times)
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February 05, 2015, 11:24:04 PM
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For your previous question, yes in the default front end, you would have to click every link.

For the second question, your hashrate is taken into consideration if you do not set pseudo share difficulty, node efficiency is not.

P2Pool share difficulty is dynamically adjusted every 30 seconds with a 30 second share target, it is pool wide, meaning it is the same for all miners regardless of hashrate.

Submitted shares under "share difficulty" are discarded, however they do help provide more accurate stats.

"Pseudo share difficulty", either set by the miner or adjusted by the pool tries to keep a regular, but not overwhelming to the node, amount of shares coming in so that your hashrate can be accurately measured (~1 per second).

Great, thanks for all the info and support you give to the community. I appreciate it, Most of them who live in assumptions will learn from your posts about p2pool  Grin
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February 05, 2015, 11:32:19 PM
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Jonny answered back on my whale on the node question.  Will it affect the other miners?

Here's his answer:

"Short answer is yes... That miner with 75TH/s is accounted for by the node and it ups the share difficulty.  Now, if that miner knows what he's doing, he'll account for it himself by using /xxxx after his address ... Where xxx is a value greater than the typical share difficulty.  Example if the share difficulty is 10000000 then that user would do something like ADDRESS/100000000."

Whale, if your watching, do me a favor, would you?

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Fancy seeing you here.  Seeing your post in the thread I realized you're on my node!

That jump in hash rate is me... I rented some heavy firepower for a day for fun.  It'll be done in about 4 hours or so.  The reported rate you're seeing on windpath's node is because I haven't ramped up to the full shares I should have with 95TH/s.  I would need to keep that level of hashing up for another few days for it to catch up.

As for your miner, it is hitting a bad luck streak.  It is all part and parcel of the way p2pool works.  I have an S3 on a node that didn't find a share for 5 days!

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February 06, 2015, 02:05:24 AM
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Don't think of it as competing with miners on the same node, you are completing (and collaborating) with the whole pool.

Also, node efficiency is a poor indicator on any node with more then 1 miner. A single miner with a high latency can bring node efficiency way down, while your miners may be mining very efficiently.

Look at your latency to the node, the node getBlockTemplate latency, and your stale/DOA shares to get a feel for your particular efficiency...

After a few days of mining you can look up your miner in our "active miners" list for p2pool. That estimated hashrate, if higher then expected, means you are mining efficiently/currently lucky. If it is lower then expected you are mining inefficiently or in a streak of bad luck. (this only works after you have been mining for the length of the share chain, i.e. 3 days)

http://minefast.coincadence.com/p2pool-stats.php

Thanks Windpath.  Is node efficiency with perfect miners (the stat) a good indication of the quality of the node?  I agree just plain node efficiency can be skewed by individual miners.

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February 06, 2015, 02:51:46 AM
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Don't think of it as competing with miners on the same node, you are completing (and collaborating) with the whole pool.

Also, node efficiency is a poor indicator on any node with more then 1 miner. A single miner with a high latency can bring node efficiency way down, while your miners may be mining very efficiently.

Look at your latency to the node, the node getBlockTemplate latency, and your stale/DOA shares to get a feel for your particular efficiency...

After a few days of mining you can look up your miner in our "active miners" list for p2pool. That estimated hashrate, if higher then expected, means you are mining efficiently/currently lucky. If it is lower then expected you are mining inefficiently or in a streak of bad luck. (this only works after you have been mining for the length of the share chain, i.e. 3 days)

http://minefast.coincadence.com/p2pool-stats.php

Thanks Windpath.  Is node efficiency with perfect miners (the stat) a good indication of the quality of the node?  I agree just plain node efficiency can be skewed by individual miners.


I don't think any 1 factor can really determine the quality of a node for a given miner, it's a combination of factors...

The "efficiency with perfect miners" stat simply excludes DOA shares from the "efficiency" stat.

If you have a miner with a high stale/orphan rate it will go down just like the efficiency stat, and could be caused by various problems.

In addition to your latency to the node, the node getBlockTemplate latency, and your stale/DOA shares mentioned above; you would also need to take into account node stability/response time, the number of incoming/outgoing p2pool peers and their latency from the node, and some other factors I'm probably forgetting to really get the whole picture.

There is must be a great formula to weight and calculate all this and put it in simple terms, I just don't know it Wink

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February 06, 2015, 07:20:59 AM
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Another block and more donations.

Thank you very much!

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February 06, 2015, 09:26:47 AM
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Jonny answered back on my whale on the node question.  Will it affect the other miners?

Here's his answer:

"Short answer is yes... That miner with 75TH/s is accounted for by the node and it ups the share difficulty.  Now, if that miner knows what he's doing, he'll account for it himself by using /xxxx after his address ... Where xxx is a value greater than the typical share difficulty.  Example if the share difficulty is 10000000 then that user would do something like ADDRESS/100000000."

Whale, if your watching, do me a favor, would you?

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Fancy seeing you here.  Seeing your post in the thread I realized you're on my node!

That jump in hash rate is me... I rented some heavy firepower for a day for fun.  It'll be done in about 4 hours or so.  The reported rate you're seeing on windpath's node is because I haven't ramped up to the full shares I should have with 95TH/s.  I would need to keep that level of hashing up for another few days for it to catch up.

As for your miner, it is hitting a bad luck streak.  It is all part and parcel of the way p2pool works.  I have an S3 on a node that didn't find a share for 5 days!

Hilarious.  I'll be back.
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February 06, 2015, 10:05:33 AM
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The Chicago node that I am using pings at 51ms.  Can I expect to do much better running my own node?
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February 06, 2015, 10:05:59 AM
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The Chicago node that I am using pings at 51ms.  Can I expects do much better running my own node?

You'll always do better with your own node.

EDIT: assuming you have the bandwidth for it.

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February 06, 2015, 12:35:49 PM
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Good to see new users adopting p2pool & plenty of info being exchanged here lately, p2pool has a great community thing going on.

Thanks also to the donations from whoever you are - very generous!  Grin

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February 06, 2015, 01:56:54 PM
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long live p2pool

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February 06, 2015, 02:54:31 PM
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Oh wow. Another donation!

Thank you!!!!

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February 06, 2015, 02:59:03 PM
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You'll always do better with your own node.

EDIT: assuming you have the bandwidth for it.

Question on this...

What kind of sustained bandwidth does a normal mining operation consume? I have a 30MB up/down pipe and was wondering what I should allocate. I can build a DMZ for my local P2Pool server to run on, and set the limits on bandwidth. Would 2MB be enough? More?
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February 06, 2015, 03:02:12 PM
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You'll always do better with your own node.

EDIT: assuming you have the bandwidth for it.

Question on this...

What kind of sustained bandwidth does a normal mining operation consume? I have a 30MB up/down pipe and was wondering what I should allocate. I can build a DMZ for my local P2Pool server to run on, and set the limits on bandwidth. Would 2MB be enough? More?

Almost a negligible amount...

My node, with 35 peers and a bunch of miners averages around 20kB/s

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February 06, 2015, 04:59:14 PM
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A big thank you to whoever has been donating lately!
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February 06, 2015, 06:09:08 PM
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A big thank you to whoever has been donating lately!

I agree Thank You!
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February 07, 2015, 01:16:32 AM
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You'll always do better with your own node.

EDIT: assuming you have the bandwidth for it.

Question on this...

What kind of sustained bandwidth does a normal mining operation consume? I have a 30MB up/down pipe and was wondering what I should allocate. I can build a DMZ for my local P2Pool server to run on, and set the limits on bandwidth. Would 2MB be enough? More?

You have tons of bandwidth.  I'm able to do pretty well with 3MB down and 768k up, as long as I only use Bitcoin.  When I start merge mining, I get problems because of bandwidth issues.

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February 07, 2015, 07:28:26 AM
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30mbps should be good enough if you are trying to use it on multi PH operation.  If you want to install IP came for the security camera watching and VPN from outside, then you may use 7-10Mbps temporary for the access and another 2-5Mpbs for the video watching or playing with your drone flying over the mining farm.



You'll always do better with your own node.

EDIT: assuming you have the bandwidth for it.

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What kind of sustained bandwidth does a normal mining operation consume? I have a 30MB up/down pipe and was wondering what I should allocate. I can build a DMZ for my local P2Pool server to run on, and set the limits on bandwidth. Would 2MB be enough? More?

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February 07, 2015, 07:39:11 AM
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Of relevance to p2pool from the antpool thread

I have finally had a skype text chat with the main Chinese Bitmain software engineers and unfortunately it's precisely as I predicted. In principle they wanted to help decentralise and saw p2pool as the obvious way to get involved and would be good publicity for them. Unfortunately they spent a lot of time fixing their regular pool first and just left this announcement up almost as a "preorder for a better p2pool". However they misunderstood the issues with p2pool and thought that all it needed was more coding expertise and manpower contributed to development to fix it and have only just started investigating it now.  While they can clearly improve on the existing code - and probably will unless the project gets canned - after I queried them about what solutions they had for the intrinsic p2pool protocol limitations/problems, they had precisely zero valid solutions for them.

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February 07, 2015, 01:29:08 PM
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Of relevance to p2pool from the antpool thread

I have finally had a skype text chat with the main Chinese Bitmain software engineers and unfortunately it's precisely as I predicted. In principle they wanted to help decentralise and saw p2pool as the obvious way to get involved and would be good publicity for them. Unfortunately they spent a lot of time fixing their regular pool first and just left this announcement up almost as a "preorder for a better p2pool". However they misunderstood the issues with p2pool and thought that all it needed was more coding expertise and manpower contributed to development to fix it and have only just started investigating it now.  While they can clearly improve on the existing code - and probably will unless the project gets canned - after I queried them about what solutions they had for the intrinsic p2pool protocol limitations/problems, they had precisely zero valid solutions for them.

Thanks for posting this clarification ck  Smiley

 I don't suppose they said anything about changing their misleading topic header or posting an official announcement to confirm that they have failed to fulfil their promise to p2pool users? It's a shame, but having read through the first few pages of their "p2pool" thread just now, many of their statements are deceptive at best - it needs to be clarified once & for all so that noobs don't get fooled into using the pool in the belief that they are helping the p2pool network & decentralise Bitcoin.

Peace  Smiley

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February 07, 2015, 05:31:17 PM
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So I thought I'd give p2pool a little bit of help finding a block... this is what my local node currently looks like:



Yes, that's over 600TH/s on my node  Grin

LOL... here's what my node is calculating as my share difficulty:
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2015-02-07 12:40:07.900595 New work for worker! Difficulty: 500.000000 Share difficulty: 108325491.294134 Total block value: 25.038254 BTC including 296 transactions

That's for my poor little S3s... hahaha.

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