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Author Topic: [1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool  (Read 2591571 times)
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February 07, 2015, 07:39:11 AM
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Of relevance to p2pool from the antpool thread

I have finally had a skype text chat with the main Chinese Bitmain software engineers and unfortunately it's precisely as I predicted. In principle they wanted to help decentralise and saw p2pool as the obvious way to get involved and would be good publicity for them. Unfortunately they spent a lot of time fixing their regular pool first and just left this announcement up almost as a "preorder for a better p2pool". However they misunderstood the issues with p2pool and thought that all it needed was more coding expertise and manpower contributed to development to fix it and have only just started investigating it now.  While they can clearly improve on the existing code - and probably will unless the project gets canned - after I queried them about what solutions they had for the intrinsic p2pool protocol limitations/problems, they had precisely zero valid solutions for them.

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February 07, 2015, 01:29:08 PM
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Of relevance to p2pool from the antpool thread

I have finally had a skype text chat with the main Chinese Bitmain software engineers and unfortunately it's precisely as I predicted. In principle they wanted to help decentralise and saw p2pool as the obvious way to get involved and would be good publicity for them. Unfortunately they spent a lot of time fixing their regular pool first and just left this announcement up almost as a "preorder for a better p2pool". However they misunderstood the issues with p2pool and thought that all it needed was more coding expertise and manpower contributed to development to fix it and have only just started investigating it now.  While they can clearly improve on the existing code - and probably will unless the project gets canned - after I queried them about what solutions they had for the intrinsic p2pool protocol limitations/problems, they had precisely zero valid solutions for them.

Thanks for posting this clarification ck  Smiley

 I don't suppose they said anything about changing their misleading topic header or posting an official announcement to confirm that they have failed to fulfil their promise to p2pool users? It's a shame, but having read through the first few pages of their "p2pool" thread just now, many of their statements are deceptive at best - it needs to be clarified once & for all so that noobs don't get fooled into using the pool in the belief that they are helping the p2pool network & decentralise Bitcoin.

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February 07, 2015, 05:31:17 PM
Last edit: February 07, 2015, 05:43:10 PM by jonnybravo0311
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So I thought I'd give p2pool a little bit of help finding a block... this is what my local node currently looks like:



Yes, that's over 600TH/s on my node  Grin

LOL... here's what my node is calculating as my share difficulty:
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2015-02-07 12:40:07.900595 New work for worker! Difficulty: 500.000000 Share difficulty: 108325491.294134 Total block value: 25.038254 BTC including 296 transactions

That's for my poor little S3s... hahaha.

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February 07, 2015, 05:45:37 PM
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LOL....What did you hire?

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February 07, 2015, 05:48:33 PM
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That is some serious juice... Smiley
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February 07, 2015, 05:55:20 PM
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Picked up a couple hundred TH on miningrigrentals.  Owner of the rig pushed it up to over 600 TH to ramp it up.  It's settling back down to the 200 I rented.  Yes I overpaid for it... But the gambler in me is hoping we hit a few blocks in the next 6 hours Smiley

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February 07, 2015, 06:38:43 PM
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So I thought I'd give p2pool a little bit of help finding a block...

WRONG ! statement, not a block, FEW blocks. GL mate.

i'm also doing my part here: *not much but at least something*

 Local: 59434GH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~2.8% (2-4%) Expected time to share: 14.5 minutes
 Shares: 234 (21 orphan, 5 dead) Stale rate: ~11.1% (7-16%) Efficiency: ~105.9% (100-110%)
*supposed to have more shares but was away @ nh for couple of hours*

now where's the block Huh

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February 07, 2015, 06:53:41 PM
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So I thought I'd give p2pool a little bit of help finding a block...

WRONG ! statement, not a block, FEW blocks. GL mate.

i'm also doing my part here: *not much but at least something*

 Local: 59434GH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~2.8% (2-4%) Expected time to share: 14.5 minutes
 Shares: 234 (21 orphan, 5 dead) Stale rate: ~11.1% (7-16%) Efficiency: ~105.9% (100-110%)
*supposed to have more shares but was away @ nh for couple of hours*

now where's the block Huh


LOL... yes, a few blocks would be most welcome.  If we hit a few blocks in the next 4 hours, I'll be sending a nice donation to p2pool Smiley.

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February 07, 2015, 07:17:09 PM
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Picked up a couple hundred TH on miningrigrentals.  Owner of the rig pushed it up to over 600 TH to ramp it up.  It's settling back down to the 200 I rented.  Yes I overpaid for it... But the gambler in me is hoping we hit a few blocks in the next 6 hours Smiley

Just rented some myself. I did good on what I rented the other day when we hit those back to back blocks. Hoping to repeat it again.  Wink
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February 07, 2015, 10:21:02 PM
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Picked up a couple hundred TH on miningrigrentals.  Owner of the rig pushed it up to over 600 TH to ramp it up.  It's settling back down to the 200 I rented.  Yes I overpaid for it... But the gambler in me is hoping we hit a few blocks in the next 6 hours Smiley

Just rented some myself. I did good on what I rented the other day when we hit those back to back blocks. Hoping to repeat it again.  Wink

do take note, if possible rent those rigs as close as possible to your own node or whichever node that you may be mining at. high latency no good for p2pool.
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February 07, 2015, 10:47:47 PM
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Picked up a couple hundred TH on miningrigrentals.  Owner of the rig pushed it up to over 600 TH to ramp it up.  It's settling back down to the 200 I rented.  Yes I overpaid for it... But the gambler in me is hoping we hit a few blocks in the next 6 hours Smiley

Just rented some myself. I did good on what I rented the other day when we hit those back to back blocks. Hoping to repeat it again.  Wink

do take note, if possible rent those rigs as close as possible to your own node or whichever node that you may be mining at. high latency no good for p2pool.
I was renting on Westhash which the node is in the Chicago area, which I think would be about somewhat centered as far as east/west.
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February 08, 2015, 04:38:05 AM
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Picked up a couple hundred TH on miningrigrentals.  Owner of the rig pushed it up to over 600 TH to ramp it up.  It's settling back down to the 200 I rented.  Yes I overpaid for it... But the gambler in me is hoping we hit a few blocks in the next 6 hours Smiley

Just rented some myself. I did good on what I rented the other day when we hit those back to back blocks. Hoping to repeat it again.  Wink

do take note, if possible rent those rigs as close as possible to your own node or whichever node that you may be mining at. high latency no good for p2pool.
I was renting on Westhash which the node is in the Chicago area, which I think would be about somewhat centered as far as east/west.

You have no way of knowing the miner's ping from their location to Westhash, only your node to Westhash. There could easily be an extra 100-200ms that you can't measure.
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February 08, 2015, 10:59:29 AM
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Here blocky blocky - come to PatMan.........

This one's a killer  Tongue

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February 08, 2015, 11:16:32 AM
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Picked up a couple hundred TH on miningrigrentals.  Owner of the rig pushed it up to over 600 TH to ramp it up.  It's settling back down to the 200 I rented.  Yes I overpaid for it... But the gambler in me is hoping we hit a few blocks in the next 6 hours Smiley

Just rented some myself. I did good on what I rented the other day when we hit those back to back blocks. Hoping to repeat it again.  Wink

do take note, if possible rent those rigs as close as possible to your own node or whichever node that you may be mining at. high latency no good for p2pool.
I was renting on Westhash which the node is in the Chicago area, which I think would be about somewhat centered as far as east/west.

You have no way of knowing the miner's ping from their location to Westhash, only your node to Westhash. There could easily be an extra 100-200ms that you can't measure.

you might be able to tell by the rejected hashrate, normally it's high
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February 08, 2015, 03:49:21 PM
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Picked up a couple hundred TH on miningrigrentals.  Owner of the rig pushed it up to over 600 TH to ramp it up.  It's settling back down to the 200 I rented.  Yes I overpaid for it... But the gambler in me is hoping we hit a few blocks in the next 6 hours Smiley

Just rented some myself. I did good on what I rented the other day when we hit those back to back blocks. Hoping to repeat it again.  Wink

do take note, if possible rent those rigs as close as possible to your own node or whichever node that you may be mining at. high latency no good for p2pool.
I was renting on Westhash which the node is in the Chicago area, which I think would be about somewhat centered as far as east/west.

You have no way of knowing the miner's ping from their location to Westhash, only your node to Westhash. There could easily be an extra 100-200ms that you can't measure.

you might be able to tell by the rejected hashrate, normally it's high

Kind of what I thought. It was respectable so I felt it was good. Seeing that I am mining on someone else's node I can't ping Westhash so I just watched the DOA it was not abnormally high. I am using a node that was ranked high on the http://nodes.p2pool.co/ and I ping it at 50ms -61ms depending on time of day.
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February 08, 2015, 08:57:07 PM
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We can add worker names to our miners right? For example 1KT2ceAEoMnpHMgRCoSW39teFQMBv4vebs_S4-1
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February 08, 2015, 09:07:23 PM
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We can add worker names to our miners right? For example 1KT2ceAEoMnpHMgRCoSW39teFQMBv4vebs_S4-1

If you're running your own node, you can set the payout address in the p2pool start-up command using the -a parameter, then call your workers whatever you want - all payouts will go to the payout address you stipulate in the p2pool command. This makes it easy to monitor your workers  Wink

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February 08, 2015, 09:31:23 PM
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We can add worker names to our miners right? For example 1KT2ceAEoMnpHMgRCoSW39teFQMBv4vebs_S4-1

If you're running your own node, you can set the payout address in the p2pool start-up command using the -a parameter, then call your workers whatever you want - all payouts will go to the payout address you stipulate in the p2pool command. This makes it easy to monitor your workers  Wink

That's what I'm already doing, as can be seen here: http://69.157.250.207:9332/static/p2pool-node-status/

But I'd like for the predicted payout to show up beside each miner instead of under the node's status. Any way of doing that, and still keeping each miner separate?
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February 08, 2015, 09:42:50 PM
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We can add worker names to our miners right? For example 1KT2ceAEoMnpHMgRCoSW39teFQMBv4vebs_S4-1

If you're running your own node, you can set the payout address in the p2pool start-up command using the -a parameter, then call your workers whatever you want - all payouts will go to the payout address you stipulate in the p2pool command. This makes it easy to monitor your workers  Wink

That's what I'm already doing, as can be seen here: http://69.157.250.207:9332/static/p2pool-node-status/

But I'd like for the predicted payout to show up beside each miner instead of under the node's status. Any way of doing that, and still keeping each miner separate?

once i used "btc add"."miners name" & i forgot to set a default payout add by adding the -a cmd but then p2p auto created a payout add for me & i can see a predicted payout beside the miner.

ut i just used a diff add for each miner & i can see individual predicted payout but not the node total predicted payout.
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February 08, 2015, 11:06:02 PM
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Hey guys, i made my own node and started mining. But i cant figure out how to set the diff for the ant s4. i tried puting worker.1+2054  but the diff stays at 1000. Should i change the diff for the s4 or should i leave it? btw i have the newest firmware from bitmain
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