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Author Topic: [1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool  (Read 2591904 times)
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June 12, 2014, 04:16:45 AM
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so username would be address/0+230
cool I will try that
I am actually averaging 963ghs with my S2 on p2pool @ 110% efficiency over 3 days and I was averaging 1003ghs on ghash.io

yuip, that's for an s1, your s2 would have a different figure. 963 isn't too bad, when you have 1th/s 40gh/s isn't much but it's 40gh/s you would otherwise have generating coin.

Have not updated the cgminer on S1 form Kano yet but when I added back my S1 to the node. I went from 0 orphans and 0 dead shares to 5 and 1 after adding the S1. Could the S1 actually be causing an issue on my node? address/0+197.2 is what I am using for S1.

Also what hash rate should I trust what I see on antminer status page or what I see on the node? very different.

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In my experience the ant stats are pretty solid, you may want to check your ants hardware error rate just to be sure: http://www.coincadence.com/antminer-s1-hardware-error/

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June 12, 2014, 05:04:15 AM
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Thank you to all who are doing the donations to p2p miners.  While it is not lots of money, it is an incentive and all of my mining power will be on p2p pool by next week. 

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June 12, 2014, 06:51:58 AM
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Thank you to all who are doing the donations to p2p miners.  While it is not lots of money, it is an incentive and all of my mining power will be on p2p pool by next week. 

I wrote a p2pool donate tool and it's been getting donations. I announced it here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=646427.0 and on reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/27rgvk/p2pool_donation_tool_now_available_to_help/

So far 0.782 has been donated through the tool, which if keeps up over time, is like p2pool paying out 1.4% more than any other pool: http://blisterpool.com/p2pdonate

Everyone can keep the donation rate high by encouraging all the bitcoin businesses they know to join the 1% decentralized club (makeshift banner on that reddit thread). If they donate 1% of their weekly profits (or whatever is reasonable), p2pool will be the most attractive decentralized mining pool by far. I wrote the tool due to a request from a business operator who wanted to do just that.
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June 12, 2014, 06:59:07 AM
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Thank you to all who are doing the donations to p2p miners.  While it is not lots of money, it is an incentive and all of my mining power will be on p2p pool by next week. 

I wrote a p2pool donate tool and it's been getting donations. I announced it here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=646427.0 and on reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/27rgvk/p2pool_donation_tool_now_available_to_help/

So far 0.782 has been donated through the tool, which if keeps up over time, is like p2pool paying out 1.4% more than any other pool: http://blisterpool.com/p2pdonate

Everyone can keep the donation rate high by encouraging all the bitcoin businesses they know to join the 1% decentralized club (makeshift banner on that reddit thread). If they donate 1% of their weekly profits (or whatever is reasonable), p2pool will be the most attractive decentralized mining pool by far. I wrote the tool due to a request from a business operator who wanted to do just that.

Thanks for that, we spotted that and have been talking about it. I made a donation myself using that tool. I've also included it in my sig below Smiley well done.

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June 12, 2014, 07:00:14 AM
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so username would be address/0+230
cool I will try that
I am actually averaging 963ghs with my S2 on p2pool @ 110% efficiency over 3 days and I was averaging 1003ghs on ghash.io

yuip, that's for an s1, your s2 would have a different figure. 963 isn't too bad, when you have 1th/s 40gh/s isn't much but it's 40gh/s you would otherwise have generating coin.

Have not updated the cgminer on S1 form Kano yet but when I added back my S1 to the node. I went from 0 orphans and 0 dead shares to 5 and 1 after adding the S1. Could the S1 actually be causing an issue on my node? address/0+197.2 is what I am using for S1.

Also what hash rate should I trust what I see on antminer status page or what I see on the node? very different.

Thanks

If you wanted you could use the official cgminer to check the S1s stats from your PC or laptop, you could do ./cgminer-api summary IP_OF_YOUR_ANTS1 or cgminer-api stats IP_OF_YOUR_ANTS1
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June 12, 2014, 10:16:05 AM
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Everyone that is running a node with a custom interface and navigation should add a link to http://blisterpool.com/p2pdonate and also promote it on twitter, Facebook, Reddit and the forums.  Maybe comment on any of the CEX.io/GHash.io 51% threads to promote it and p2pool.

Not everyone can run a p2pool node or mine on a public node, but everyone in our community could contribute a few Satoshi here and there to help incentivize miners to join p2pool and decentralize the BTC network further.

Thanks again to Hunterbunter for furthering this cause!

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June 12, 2014, 10:35:43 AM
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Everyone that is running a node with a custom interface and navigation should add a link to http://blisterpool.com/p2pdonate and also promote it on twitter, Facebook, Reddit and the forums.  Maybe comment on any of the CEX.io/GHash.io 51% threads to promote it and p2pool.

Not everyone can run a p2pool node or mine on a public node, but everyone in our community could contribute a few Satoshi here and there to help incentivize miners to join p2pool and decentralize the BTC network further.

Thanks again to Hunterbunter for furthering this cause!

I have added to my sig and went to update my front end but my dreamweaver trial has expired lol will need to manually ftp in and add it.

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June 12, 2014, 12:30:06 PM
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One possible idea I can give you would be to add an indicator to suggest when the timing of a donation would provide the best incentive to p2pool miners. If donations are made on the same day p2pool finds 5-6 blocks, the situation could inspire a "quit while the going's good" attitude for someone who's getting anxious to switch to a low variance pool. If an indicator (red-orange-green maybe?) were to discourage donating until "last block found" goes significantly above the "time to block", there could be an improvement in the variance over long periods of time.

Hopefully enough donators might follow a timing indicator that it could really smooth out the variance as it's directly experienced by p2poolers.

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June 12, 2014, 01:25:53 PM
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I wrote a p2pool donate tool and it's been getting donations. I announced it here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=646427.0 and on reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/27rgvk/p2pool_donation_tool_now_available_to_help/

So far 0.782 has been donated through the tool, which if keeps up over time, is like p2pool paying out 1.4% more than any other pool: http://blisterpool.com/p2pdonate

Everyone can keep the donation rate high by encouraging all the bitcoin businesses they know to join the 1% decentralized club (makeshift banner on that reddit thread). If they donate 1% of their weekly profits (or whatever is reasonable), p2pool will be the most attractive decentralized mining pool by far. I wrote the tool due to a request from a business operator who wanted to do just that.

Very cool, nice tool!
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June 12, 2014, 03:08:18 PM
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I wrote a p2pool donate tool and it's been getting donations. I announced it here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=646427.0 and on reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/27rgvk/p2pool_donation_tool_now_available_to_help/

So far 0.782 has been donated through the tool, which if keeps up over time, is like p2pool paying out 1.4% more than any other pool: http://blisterpool.com/p2pdonate

Everyone can keep the donation rate high by encouraging all the bitcoin businesses they know to join the 1% decentralized club (makeshift banner on that reddit thread). If they donate 1% of their weekly profits (or whatever is reasonable), p2pool will be the most attractive decentralized mining pool by far. I wrote the tool due to a request from a business operator who wanted to do just that.

Very cool, nice tool!

I'm not sure how much everyone gets, but please remember that (IIRC) currently the standard fee is 0.0002 BTC for every kB of data needed to store a transaction in the blockchain. IIRC simply transferring a single input transaction to another address costs 200-300B. So If you receive 0.00004 BTC or less, you won't be able to spend any of it with conventional means (they would completely disappear into fees). I've received transactions below that level... Maybe the tool should check how much BTC would be wasted into such dust before letting people donate.

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June 12, 2014, 04:01:41 PM
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New Bitcoin P2Pool Super Node Launched

As the Coin Cadence node has grown in popularity and features we have found our existing server struggling to keep up.

Today a brand new Coin Cadence node is available in a new data center.

With more interconnects (faster connections from around the world), 100% SSD drives, RAID 10 redundancy, multi-core processors, double the RAM, and the ability to rapidly scale; this node is enterprise class.

Our new routing setup enables global latency based routing selecting the fastest route to p2pool nodes around the world for your miners. We will be launching multiple global regions in the near future Smiley

The new node and miner configuration instructions can be found here:

http://minefast.coincadence.com

Miners using the old server (mining.coincadence.com) should update their miners following the instructions here by June 19th to avoid any downtime.
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June 12, 2014, 11:02:00 PM
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so username would be address/0+230
cool I will try that
I am actually averaging 963ghs with my S2 on p2pool @ 110% efficiency over 3 days and I was averaging 1003ghs on ghash.io

yuip, that's for an s1, your s2 would have a different figure. 963 isn't too bad, when you have 1th/s 40gh/s isn't much but it's 40gh/s you would otherwise have generating coin.

Have not updated the cgminer on S1 form Kano yet but when I added back my S1 to the node. I went from 0 orphans and 0 dead shares to 5 and 1 after adding the S1. Could the S1 actually be causing an issue on my node? address/0+197.2 is what I am using for S1.

Also what hash rate should I trust what I see on antminer status page or what I see on the node? very different.

Thanks

In my experience the ant stats are pretty solid, you may want to check your ants hardware error rate just to be sure: http://www.coincadence.com/antminer-s1-hardware-error/



I checked my errors all my S1 and the S2 are very low 0.000xxxx%.

My node hash rate varies from just under 1TH to 1.19TH (S1 not oc and S2 not oc) antminer average is 170GHS for S1 and 963GHS for S2. Tried the Kano update on S1 and see no difference.

Probably coincidence but ever since I added the S1 to the node I have get more orphans and DOA then with just the S2.

My EFF varies between 100 and 109% but was 115+ after 3.5days.

I noticed some of the peers on my outgoing connections don't ping or have ping times 100ms+, I found some nodes that ping under 30ms, should I be adding them with --p2pool-node?
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June 12, 2014, 11:53:12 PM
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One possible idea I can give you would be to add an indicator to suggest when the timing of a donation would provide the best incentive to p2pool miners. If donations are made on the same day p2pool finds 5-6 blocks, the situation could inspire a "quit while the going's good" attitude for someone who's getting anxious to switch to a low variance pool. If an indicator (red-orange-green maybe?) were to discourage donating until "last block found" goes significantly above the "time to block", there could be an improvement in the variance over long periods of time.

Hopefully enough donators might follow a timing indicator that it could really smooth out the variance as it's directly experienced by p2poolers.

Interesting idea, although I worry that donators may not have the patience to keep checking back to see if it's it's been a long time since the last block. It might just stop them donating when lots of blocks have been found, and reduce their overall donations over time. Do you think this will be a problem?

I agree it'd be nice to smooth variance out, but I think that will also work if we attract as many businesses to 1% decentralization as possible, with weekly donations at all random times. Even if payments get grouped up so a period of time seems donation lucky, overall it should mean there is less "super luck" during the week where you get lots of blocks and lots of donations at the same time. It's possible, but the chance should be lower than just looking at p2pool luck, shouldn't it?

I'm not sure how much everyone gets, but please remember that (IIRC) currently the standard fee is 0.0002 BTC for every kB of data needed to store a transaction in the blockchain. IIRC simply transferring a single input transaction to another address costs 200-300B. So If you receive 0.00004 BTC or less, you won't be able to spend any of it with conventional means (they would completely disappear into fees). I've received transactions below that level... Maybe the tool should check how much BTC would be wasted into such dust before letting people donate.

I'm very conscious of this and have been trying to figure out what the best default/minimum cutoff should be (0.0001 only goes to about 13 miners with 0.01btc, the typical donation amount, 113 with 0.00001). The bitcoin reference wallet lets you now choose which inputs you want to put, so you can very easily reroute dust payments below the transaction fee (0.0001 per kb) to a new address, or combine dust with larger inputs. Ultimately, you can see it as the donations might save you a fee if you pick the right inputs for a larger payment (1 larger and 4 dust payments - almost no fee on the larger one).
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June 13, 2014, 12:04:54 AM
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Looks like I suddenly got new people on my node:
http://192.30.165.92:9332/static/graphs.html?Day

Can 1EkK please check your miner(s) and find out why it's so erratic? I worry it's screwing up any other miners on my node.

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June 13, 2014, 02:01:53 AM
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Looks like I suddenly got new people on my node:
http://192.30.165.92:9332/static/graphs.html?Day

Can 1EkK please check your miner(s) and find out why it's so erratic? I worry it's screwing up any other miners on my node.

I'm not that person, but it looks like rented hashpower through nicehash.
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June 13, 2014, 06:48:38 AM
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P2Pool.info gives over Weeks no Data. Thats a piece of shit Sad
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June 13, 2014, 10:28:37 AM
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P2Pool.info gives over Weeks no Data. Thats a piece of shit Sad

Yup. It's pure shit - the dev here doesn't care.

Have you been a victim of dogie insults, neg-rep'd for no reason or been falsely accused by him? If so, air your experiences here:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=905210.0
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June 13, 2014, 10:34:31 AM
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P2Pool.info gives over Weeks no Data. Thats a piece of shit Sad

Yup. It's pure shit - the dev here doesn't care.

If you were the dev (doing it essentially or free) would these posts make you feel like doing more work for unappreciative people who would rather bitch about what they are not getting that they feel entitled to and do not contribute anything back? Are you donating to p2pool? have you contributed any code? anything?

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June 13, 2014, 10:52:19 AM
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Ooooh - touched a nerve there did I?

What work is the dev here doing exactly? Last p2pool update of any note was over a year ago, he hardly ever posts on his own thread - in fact his last post was about getting p2pool info back up in a day or two - that was weeks ago & it's still offline.

As for the "for free" thing - he's collecting donations from 100's of p2pool users. Dev here needs a kick up the ass - if he's no longer interested in developing p2pool or putting p2pool.info back online, he should say so, instead of just sitting back & watching the donations roll in.

What are you - his personal speaker? How's about the dev actually say something himself instead of relying on his blinded worshippers to cover his back.

P2pool was a fantastic step two or three years ago - now it's out of date & neglected.

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June 13, 2014, 11:29:14 AM
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@ Norgan: You seriously need to stop hurling insults at anyone who questions anything on this thread. Enough already.

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