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November 30, 2013, 03:54:19 AM
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New difficulty is 707M. The change occured yesterday evening (UTC), only several hours ago. Maybe it can be mentioned here..
The change to the difficulty has been "only" 16 %.
The tempo of difficulty increase is decreasing for several epochs already.
I wonder whether it's a permanent change or a temporary one only. :-)

So does a 16% increase in difficulty equal 16% less revenue? (assume no changes to equipment and no changes to participants within the pool, just talking about difficulty as an isolated thing).

~13.8% decrease in expected earnings from a 16% diff increase.

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November 30, 2013, 04:29:08 AM
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I too am having problems with my Slush account!  Contacted Slush via Facebook PM asking to check my account...no reply.  I had some "old" Confirmed Rewards and some new Confirmed Rewards generated in the last month or so.  After the servers were brought back online recently it seems like all the old coins disappeared! Cry  Not sure what else to do!  Anyone else notice a loss of coins?   Huh
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November 30, 2013, 05:50:40 AM
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New difficulty is 707M. The change occured yesterday evening (UTC), only several hours ago. Maybe it can be mentioned here..
The change to the difficulty has been "only" 16 %.
The tempo of difficulty increase is decreasing for several epochs already.
I wonder whether it's a permanent change or a temporary one only. :-)

So does a 16% increase in difficulty equal 16% less revenue? (assume no changes to equipment and no changes to participants within the pool, just talking about difficulty as an isolated thing).

~13.8% decrease in expected earnings from a 16% diff increase.

So to maintain the same revenues through a 16% difficulty increase would you need to increase your hashing power by 13.8% or 16%?
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November 30, 2013, 09:14:17 AM
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New difficulty is 707M. The change occured yesterday evening (UTC), only several hours ago. Maybe it can be mentioned here..
The change to the difficulty has been "only" 16 %.
The tempo of difficulty increase is decreasing for several epochs already.
I wonder whether it's a permanent change or a temporary one only. :-)

So does a 16% increase in difficulty equal 16% less revenue? (assume no changes to equipment and no changes to participants within the pool, just talking about difficulty as an isolated thing).

~13.8% decrease in expected earnings from a 16% diff increase.

So to maintain the same revenues through a 16% difficulty increase would you need to increase your hashing power by 13.8% or 16%?

You can guess twice. :-)
(But B is right.)

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One illustrative example:
If the diff would rise by 100 % (i.e., the new one would be twice the old one), your earnings would drop to 50 % (or to one half), that is also by 50 %.
Then guess what you have to do for to maintain your earnings: increase your power by 50 % or by 100 %? Sure by 100 %, to twice the original value.
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November 30, 2013, 10:00:50 AM
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Then guess what you have to do for to maintain your earnings: increase your power by 50 % or by 100 %? Sure by 100 %, to twice the original value.
Which is what many people are doing, hence the rapid rise in hashing power (quite apart from new miners joining).  It's like the Cold War arms race all over again, with both sides going for bigger and better to out-do the other.  Ultimately neither will win, having spent a fortune trying, but there will be losers.

It's also known as the Red Queen hypothesis.

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November 30, 2013, 10:10:27 AM
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My usual complaint.... payouts not happening again.... Cry
It's unclear if the 0.05 threshold is applied, my account settings are still on 0.01, but payouts have been happening in a random fashion, way above 0.01 and below 0.05.  This is frustrating and annoying.  I may 'spit the dummy' and explore elsewhere if this doesn't get sorted... Angry
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November 30, 2013, 01:20:15 PM
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Been having no issue with the payouts... they just take longer than normal, but every payment has been successful.
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November 30, 2013, 04:23:01 PM
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I am over the threshold with no payout....

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November 30, 2013, 05:03:13 PM
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Same here ...

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November 30, 2013, 05:18:34 PM
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same here

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November 30, 2013, 05:21:56 PM
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November 30, 2013, 05:38:32 PM
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Pondering what the issue with reported hash rate and hash rate slush shows with Blades...
All my Asic USB Miners are dead on their reported hash rate and the slush report.
for example one group of eruptors 22 report 7300mh/s and slush shows 7202.33 which is essentially the same taking into account luck...
However my blades are all consistently 600-2000mh/s wrong.
these 2 grouped together should be 18gh/s yet slush has been showing 15619.041 for days.
10.89/ 8.06/ 7.81Gh/s | A:8791 R:191+0(2.3%) HW:476/.80%
11.97/11.10/10.44Gh/s | A:66460 R:1463+0(2.2%) HW:24273/3.9%
Another blade is running at 8gh/s but consistently shows 7511.846.
I guess that one isnt as bad.

 just seems odd the blades have a bigger loss compared to 22 eruptors. Is that normal?
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November 30, 2013, 06:21:14 PM
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Pondering what the issue with reported hash rate and hash rate slush shows with Blades...
All my Asic USB Miners are dead on their reported hash rate and the slush report.
for example one group of eruptors 22 report 7300mh/s and slush shows 7202.33 which is essentially the same taking into account luck...
However my blades are all consistently 600-2000mh/s wrong.
these 2 grouped together should be 18gh/s yet slush has been showing 15619.041 for days.
10.89/ 8.06/ 7.81Gh/s | A:8791 R:191+0(2.3%) HW:476/.80%
11.97/11.10/10.44Gh/s | A:66460 R:1463+0(2.2%) HW:24273/3.9%
Another blade is running at 8gh/s but consistently shows 7511.846.
I guess that one isnt as bad.

 just seems odd the blades have a bigger loss compared to 22 eruptors. Is that normal?


They might be restarting if they are not cool enough. I had issues with my router and eventually went with a crossover cable from my laptop to switch to blades, you might want to try a different way of networking the blades. Other than that, on startup it usually takes the pool's web UI a while to "catch up". If you have a good wind tunnel and solid network connection it should be fine running through the proxy.

In regards to other discussion here, I'm almost double the minimum threshold with no payout.
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November 30, 2013, 06:57:46 PM
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I am more than double over the threshold (0.01) with no payout....

Will leave pool if no answer & payout like defineed in threshold.  Angry

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November 30, 2013, 07:04:19 PM
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Hi everybody! Very much a new guy to mining and to slush's pool. I unfortunately have gotten into this mining far too late in the game and am woefully lacking in knowledge and equipment. I have been using guiminer on my laptop to CPU mine for about a day and a half now and have managed to rack up a whopping 0.00000138BTC!! Yeah, I know, only about 1/10th of a cent in USD, if I did my math correctly. I also know that mining with a CPU is not going to be profitable ever again with the ever increasing level of difficulty. But right now I am just trying it out and building up my knowledge level while making up my mind whether or not it would be financially feasible for me to invest money in buying better, faster mining hardware.
So with that said, what kind of advice do you veterans have for this rookie? Also, I know it has been explained several times before in this thread, but I am no CS major, so most of the lingo used is Greek to me. But looking at my stats I see several blocks where I have 2,3,4 or 5 shares listed, but with no reward. And other blocks with the same amount of shares but with rewards. Is this normal? Ok, please try to contain your laughter when you read that I have been getting single digit shares! Like I said, I am a rookie and am only using a CPU to mine with right now. I recall reading something about miners not reporting in or something along those lines, and that is why no reward was given? I know my measely little 400 - 800kh/s isn't contributing much, and I know my rewards are going to be much either right now. But I'm mostly just trying to understand everything (in Layman's terms). I have had guiminer running non-stop the whole time (day and a half now). Well, except for the time when I accidentally closed the window. Stupid Windows 8! But I opened it right back up and started mining right away. Other than that it has been running non-stop the whole time. Is there a way for me to tell if the miner is reporting in, or whatever it's called? I very much appreciate any advice I can get.

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November 30, 2013, 07:12:44 PM
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just seems odd the blades have a bigger loss compared to 22 eruptors. Is that normal?
It might be that your internet bandwidth is throttling the throughput.  I recently noticed that my set-up on cable broadband slows from around 8.6GH to 2.5GH in the early evening when all the World of Warcraft players and video downloaders get busy, before creeping slowly upwards to its normal level by around midnight; I tried swapping to an ADSL broadband connection and got no more than 4.5GH even off-peak.

I use a Jalapeno and two block eruptors mining through BFGminer; the reported hash rates for all three devices vary in proportion.

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November 30, 2013, 07:25:08 PM
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Hi! I see that namecoin merged mining was suspended, but I also see that there is activity on the namecoin project, and I would ask you to re-enable support for it.

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November 30, 2013, 07:28:01 PM
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Why do you guys stay here if you aren't getting paid on time or when you are supposed to? Loyalty or something? Even though I think all bitcoin pool operators are criminal thieving guys I've stuck and stayed with BTC Guild since the beginning. Even at times my reward level dropped and I made less I think it is well worth the fees you have to pay to mine there. BUT if the fees do increase there I would POSSIBLY try another "free" pool. If you haven't tried the Guild yet, give it a try. The web layout is very professional, easy to use and user friendly too. Its just clean and neat. Unlike the other pools I've tried which look like they are from the 80's using Microsoft Frontpage to create. And yes, this is my opinion. Good luck, we are all in this together.


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November 30, 2013, 08:43:05 PM
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My payout finally made it... Smiley and to Slush's credit, it accurately tracks all the other data on submitted shares and individual block rewards.
But if this inconsistency in payout timing persists, there are other pools (such as BTC Guild).
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November 30, 2013, 09:02:47 PM
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You guys complaining about payout are watching the confirmed amount and not the total amount, right? also, in my opinion, expecting a payout more often than once every 24 hours is being greedy. I've set my payout to be once every 7-10 days and have had no problem what-so-ever.
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