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Author Topic: [4+ EH] Slush Pool (slushpool.com); Overt AsicBoost; World First Mining Pool  (Read 4381921 times)
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December 03, 2013, 12:46:11 PM
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since I noticed that there are quite a few people making comments about not getting rewards even though they know their miners have been hashing away, say in a situation like that, if the pool ends up completing the block, but most everyone's stats shows "none" for rewards, then where do the 25 bitcoins go? I'm sure someone must end up with them, right?

Two different scenarios really mate. The first is when people on here get their knickers in a knot over stats showing "none" or zero after processing is completed, but still taking 15 mins or so until it will show the correct reward. This is normal in my experience and no Btc disappear.
The second, which admittedly is one that should probably be looked into even though it too normally sorts it self out, are the rounds showing a lower reward than normal for some people but a higher reward than normal for others.

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So one last rookie question. If I do decide to get more into this, obviously continuing mining with my CPU will NEVER be profitable. At about what hash rate have most of you seen the BTC start rolling in? I'm not delusional enough to think that I will ever make a fortune off of this, but I wouldn't mind seeing at least a couple hundred bucks or so over the course of a month or three in order to make it feel like my efforts are not in vain. Right now my meager 0.00000142 BTC just ain't cutting it!  Grin

Depends on how much you want to outlay initially really. There is no hard and fast answer. You could fork out a grand or so today for a few 100Ghash) machines but you're not going to get them for 3 or 4 months minimum - who knows what the difficulty or return will be then. On the other hand to get anything in hand immediately you are looking at ridiculous mark ups. Block eruptors that were not long ago around $15 on Au Ebay are now going for over $60 each (335Mhash). I wish the media kept their traps shut about the rise of btc it would have made things much cheaper Smiley
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December 03, 2013, 01:21:55 PM
Last edit: December 04, 2013, 04:00:08 AM by gourmet
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21027 and 21033 need recalculations, my reward is halved again.

My reward for round 21027 is 1/100 of the usual one. But it has been confirmed already... :-(
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December 03, 2013, 03:12:50 PM
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With block 21027 now being confirmed, is this going to make it tougher to fix?

What happens to those that got extra?

 If I had been one of those that got extra, it would have pushed me over my payout threshold. It would have paid out, but when (or if) it went back to fix it, there would not be enough in my rewards to give back.
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December 03, 2013, 04:21:26 PM
Last edit: December 03, 2013, 04:34:33 PM by FalconFly
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21028    2013-12-02 23:33:20    0:28:46    166468331    485    0.00006462    272729    25.29332793    confirmed
21027    2013-12-02 23:04:34    5:49:17    1993521951    6010    0.00000096    272726    25.00902152    confirmed
21026    2013-12-02 17:15:17    0:42:40    241981189    966    0.00010627    272690    25.19850076    confirmed

Annoying indeed...
I have no issue with the regularly varying score (which always occurs to me despite having a 50MBit pipe with extremely constant connection quality and no significant change neither to total Slush Hash power or my own), but I think that "anti-pool" hopping routine is overly punishing Shares that come to the server just a few seconds late.
I mean when a round is i.e. 10 hours and I contributed @ full average speed for 9h 59m with the final shares somehow being a tad delayed (despite my GUIminers showing no evidence of any delay/problem whatsoever), that shouldn't be punished so hard.
Plus, I also see it overnight when there's absolutely no other traffic using my Internet connection, it's 100.0% mining only.

Just stopping miners (which ran days uninterrupted 24/7) for only 10 seconds (!) to change some settings is making the rewarded BTC taking a considerable and unproportional hit, IMHO that's not okay and making me considering to at least try other pools.
In the end results, their additional fees become insignificant when compared to the losses I see here everyday due to that extremely aggressive scoring/time vs. reward reduction routine :/
Additionally because of being new around here, such events always leave a nagging doubt that this behaviour is systemic and intentionally scooping off small fractions of BTC Rewards per participant. No proof for that of course but the doubt remains (especially because now big money is involved every day), those repeating small issues don't quite reduce these doubts :/

Just my 2 cents from a low profile miner, I'd probably be much more unhappy if I had some big THash rigs rolling and seeing the same...

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December 03, 2013, 04:45:00 PM
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Just checked and mine is the same

21029    2013-12-03 00:03:45    0:30:25    174346782    9513    0.00137131    272735    25.00901001    confirmed
21028    2013-12-02 23:33:20    0:28:46    166468331    8865    0.00120803    272729    25.29332793    confirmed
21027    2013-12-02 23:04:34    5:49:17    1993521951    104048    0.00001684    272726    25.00902152    confirmed
21026    2013-12-02 17:15:17    0:42:40    241981189    12256    0.00128974    272690    25.19850076    confirmed
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December 03, 2013, 05:33:01 PM
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21027 and 21033 need recalculations, my reward is halved again.

My reward for round 21027 is 1/100 of the usual one. But it has been confirmed already... :-(
+1 - The same here
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December 03, 2013, 05:57:14 PM
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21028   2013-12-02 23:33:20   0:28:46   166468331   50525   0.00793538   272729   25.29332793    confirmed
21027   2013-12-02 23:04:34   5:49:17   1993521951   610368   0.00008752   272726   25.00902152    confirmed
21026   2013-12-02 17:15:17   0:42:40   241981189   72784   0.00803961   272690   25.19850076    confirmed

I was one of the unlucky ones also  Undecided
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December 03, 2013, 09:18:03 PM
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21029   2013-12-03 00:03:45   0:30:25   174346782   7072   0.00103284   272735   25.00901001    confirmed
21028   2013-12-02 23:33:20   0:28:46   166468331   6588   0.00090089   272729   25.29332793    confirmed
21027   2013-12-02 23:04:34   5:49:17   1993521951   80006   0.00001236   272726   25.00902152    confirmed
21026   2013-12-02 17:15:17   0:42:40   241981189   9828   0.00094357   272690   25.19850076    confirmed
21025   2013-12-02 16:32:37   10:39:33   3490407934   144560   0.00099827   272687   25.06788253    confirmed

+1 for me as well

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December 03, 2013, 10:35:31 PM
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great... i got nada due to no power here for that round.....
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lost power at around 3rd hour of the 5:49:17 and didn't get it back on until part way in to the 2nd round after...

0.00000002 is still more than i'd expect for doing 3hrs of 5+ hour hashing ( assuming my clocks are correct now )

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December 03, 2013, 10:42:00 PM
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Round 21027 has the same 1% of the expected payout that most other people here are seeing for me as well. I don't believe that it is a connection issue on my end, as my number of shares / total shares is the same as every other round.

Hopefully Slush fixes it, he's usually excellent about such things.
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December 03, 2013, 10:47:45 PM
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How do i do merged mining on this pool... And what are the coins i can merge with?
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December 03, 2013, 11:57:29 PM
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So im not the only one getting hosed on multiple blocks.

is there any correction being performed or are we just expected to accept that its the cost of using slushes pool?


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December 04, 2013, 01:07:53 AM
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How do i do merged mining on this pool... And what are the coins i can merge with?

Slush's pool doesn't do merged mining anymore.
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December 04, 2013, 03:36:08 AM
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Anyone else seeing really low reported hashrate?  I'm pushing 10 GH/s and pool is reporting 2 GH/s.  Weird...
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December 04, 2013, 03:39:27 AM
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Anyone else seeing really low reported hashrate?  I'm pushing 10 GH/s and pool is reporting 2 GH/s.  Weird...
Nope it's doing fine on my end
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December 04, 2013, 05:54:14 AM
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Anyone else seeing really low reported hashrate?  I'm pushing 10 GH/s and pool is reporting 2 GH/s.  Weird...

Nothing abnormal. The start of a new block my rate drops about half but recovers quickly.

On a side note, I still haven't seen a correction to 21027 yet.
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December 04, 2013, 06:09:37 AM
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So I just added 10gh/s to my total setup, everything is reporting full hash on Slush's site but my estimated reward doesn't look bumped up much at all. Does this mean everyone else plugged in 10gh/s at the same time as me? Or did we get more members so proportionately I'm nearly unchanged? Or does the estimated reward need more time to catch up? Perhaps I was expecting to see more of a bump, I mean it's a little bit higher but not much.
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December 04, 2013, 06:22:57 AM
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So I just added 10gh/s to my total setup, everything is reporting full hash on Slush's site but my estimated reward doesn't look bumped up much at all. Does this mean everyone else plugged in 10gh/s at the same time as me? Or did we get more members so proportionately I'm nearly unchanged? Or does the estimated reward need more time to catch up? Perhaps I was expecting to see more of a bump, I mean it's a little bit higher but not much.

The pool hash rate is changing all the time, but say it was 400TH/s when you plugged in (it's 422TH/s as I write this), and where in the round you connected affects the reward as well, but in terms of hashing power 10GH/s divided by 420TH/s times 100% = a relative increase of 0.0025% for the pool, so yeah, the reward bump wouldn't be a lot.
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December 04, 2013, 07:02:58 AM
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So I just added 10gh/s to my total setup, everything is reporting full hash on Slush's site but my estimated reward doesn't look bumped up much at all. Does this mean everyone else plugged in 10gh/s at the same time as me? Or did we get more members so proportionately I'm nearly unchanged? Or does the estimated reward need more time to catch up? Perhaps I was expecting to see more of a bump, I mean it's a little bit higher but not much.

The pool hash rate is changing all the time, but say it was 400TH/s when you plugged in (it's 422TH/s as I write this), and where in the round you connected affects the reward as well, but in terms of hashing power 10GH/s divided by 420TH/s times 100% = a relative increase of 0.0025% for the pool, so yeah, the reward bump wouldn't be a lot.

Do a lot of people turn off over the weekends? I always feel like the weekends have longer rounds during certain hours but slightly better rewards. I'm not plotting any data, mostly this is just very casual observation... I'm 24/7 with my equipment so I just assume most people are the same way.

I've also limited myself to just Slush's pool, it works well enough so I've had no motivation to bounce around or explore. Perhaps during the long blocks people drop out and come back a few days later. I'm pulling at straws, guess I'm just trying to find out what might make the pool hash rate decrease, assuming it ever does I'm aware it would only be temporary and the long-term trend is always building here...


Edit: just so I understand, generally if my rewards get lower and it's not from a difficulty jump is it safe to assume it is because the pool either has more members or more equipment plugged in?

Edit 2: okay, now my estimated reward is higher by the amount I was expecting, perhaps there was some lag in the system(?)
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December 04, 2013, 08:05:45 AM
Last edit: December 04, 2013, 08:47:00 AM by gourmet
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Round 21027 has the same 1% of the expected payout that most other people here are seeing for me as well. I don't believe that it is a connection issue on my end, as my number of shares / total shares is the same as every other round.

Hopefully Slush fixes it, he's usually excellent about such things.

Usually he has been. But normally the correction should come before the block is verified. After verification, payouts could have occured, especially to those who had won unproportional gain in the round.

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