Bitcoin Forum
January 23, 2018, 12:37:54 PM *
News: Electrum users must upgrade to 3.0.5 if they haven't already. More info.
 
   Home   Help Search Donate Login Register  
Poll
Question: What type of pool payouts do you prefer?
Bitcoins - 3211 (80.4%)
Bank transfer / USD - 410 (10.3%)
Gold/silver coins and bars - 371 (9.3%)
Total Voters: 3990

Pages: « 1 ... 612 613 614 615 616 617 618 619 620 621 622 623 624 625 626 627 628 629 630 631 632 633 634 635 636 637 638 639 640 641 642 643 644 645 646 647 648 649 650 651 652 653 654 655 656 657 658 659 660 661 [662] 663 664 665 666 667 668 669 670 671 672 673 674 675 676 677 678 679 680 681 682 683 684 685 686 687 688 689 690 691 692 693 694 695 696 697 698 699 700 701 702 703 704 705 706 707 708 709 710 711 712 ... 1133 »
  Print  
Author Topic: [150+ PH] SlushPool (slushpool.com); World's First Mining Pool  (Read 4322388 times)
jmevz
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 251


View Profile
November 23, 2013, 09:04:17 AM
 #13221

What's with our luck lately?

1516711074
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1516711074

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1516711074
Reply with quote  #2

1516711074
Report to moderator
1516711074
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1516711074

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1516711074
Reply with quote  #2

1516711074
Report to moderator
Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction. Advertise here.
1516711074
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1516711074

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1516711074
Reply with quote  #2

1516711074
Report to moderator
1516711074
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1516711074

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1516711074
Reply with quote  #2

1516711074
Report to moderator
1516711074
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1516711074

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1516711074
Reply with quote  #2

1516711074
Report to moderator
Trongersoll
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 490



View Profile
November 23, 2013, 10:01:49 AM
 #13222

It doesn't work that way. It didn't take that long to find a specific block, it took that long to find any block. Every time someone else finds a block, we start looking for a new block based on what they found. That's why we call that 12 hours a round, not a block.

So every time you see "stratum detected a new block" in the miner log would indicate that the hashing power is being spent on solving a block rather than looking for a new one? Unless someone solves that block first. But if you don't see a new block detected for a long while, the hashing power is being spent finding a new one?

How is hashing power divided between looking for new blocks vs solving, is there a ratio set by the pool operator depending on how many active blocks have been found?

-noob.


When you see "stratum detected a new block" it means that someone somewhere in the world found a solution for the current block and that a new block is now being worked on. Solving is looking for new blocks. Different names for the same thing.

The thing is that there is more than one right solution for any given block. All the pools and solo people use different inputs than every one else in hopes that their input will find the desired output. Say your hashrate is 5 Gh/s, that means you are checking 5 million different inputs every second looking for the one output that will complete the block.

Ah, so there is only one active (known) block at a time that all miners are working to solve. Once that is solved, the answer leads to the next block? Also I was a bit thrown on the block vs round. I checked the wiki but will do some more looking.

Sorry if my questions are elementary, I am fairly new and I must say it is quite a lot to grasp. Thank you for taking the time out of your day.
Yes, you have got the blocks down. A round is how long it takes for the pool to find a block. If it took 10 hours for the pool to find a block, that is a 10 hour round. A lot of people will call that a 10 hour block, but that is confusing to new people.
jmevz
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 251


View Profile
November 23, 2013, 10:40:52 AM
 #13223

It doesn't work that way. It didn't take that long to find a specific block, it took that long to find any block. Every time someone else finds a block, we start looking for a new block based on what they found. That's why we call that 12 hours a round, not a block.

So every time you see "stratum detected a new block" in the miner log would indicate that the hashing power is being spent on solving a block rather than looking for a new one? Unless someone solves that block first. But if you don't see a new block detected for a long while, the hashing power is being spent finding a new one?

How is hashing power divided between looking for new blocks vs solving, is there a ratio set by the pool operator depending on how many active blocks have been found?

-noob.


When you see "stratum detected a new block" it means that someone somewhere in the world found a solution for the current block and that a new block is now being worked on. Solving is looking for new blocks. Different names for the same thing.

The thing is that there is more than one right solution for any given block. All the pools and solo people use different inputs than every one else in hopes that their input will find the desired output. Say your hashrate is 5 Gh/s, that means you are checking 5 million different inputs every second looking for the one output that will complete the block.

Ah, so there is only one active (known) block at a time that all miners are working to solve. Once that is solved, the answer leads to the next block? Also I was a bit thrown on the block vs round. I checked the wiki but will do some more looking.

Sorry if my questions are elementary, I am fairly new and I must say it is quite a lot to grasp. Thank you for taking the time out of your day.
Yes, you have got the blocks down. A round is how long it takes for the pool to find a block. If it took 10 hours for the pool to find a block, that is a 10 hour round. A lot of people will call that a 10 hour block, but that is confusing to new people.

Let me see if I get this myself please? A block is worked on by the entire network and pools. Any pool or miner can solve the block, hence ending their round? Correct? Thus, our round continues until we solve one of these blocks? Hence the 'stratum detected new block?'

gourmet
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 311


View Profile
November 23, 2013, 06:42:12 PM
 #13224

it definitely is "a lot to grasp" but all the info you are looking for has already been published. google it

I have googled a lot, read a lot, maybe I am just a simpleton.  Thanks for the constructive criticism.

Imagine everyone new in this forum were asking these questions...
BTW, these questions are off-topic in this thread, as they're quite general and not specific to Slush's pool.

[edit] These questions are best posted in the Newbies' section in fact.
gourmet
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 311


View Profile
November 23, 2013, 06:46:09 PM
 #13225

The thing is that there is more than one right solution for any given block. All the pools and solo people use different inputs than every one else in hopes that their input will find the desired output. Say your hashrate is 5 Gh/s, that means you are checking 5 million different inputs every second looking for the one output that will complete the block.

5 billion :-)
Trongersoll
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 490



View Profile
November 23, 2013, 07:01:04 PM
 #13226

The thing is that there is more than one right solution for any given block. All the pools and solo people use different inputs than every one else in hopes that their input will find the desired output. Say your hashrate is 5 Gh/s, that means you are checking 5 million different inputs every second looking for the one output that will complete the block.

5 billion :-)

oops, i just knew i was gonna mess that up. I even went over it in my head a few times and still typed it wrong. Tongue

When ever i answer questions here i feel like i'm back in college taking a test.
paulus51
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 406


Blockchain Identity Verification


View Profile
November 23, 2013, 08:46:58 PM
 #13227

so i understand it so far but what happens wen my machine finds a block ?

wen i see in my account found blocks ...example 1

can some one explane this ? what are the rewards or .... tell me how does this work ?

          ▄▄█▀▀▀█▄▄           
     █  █▀ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ▀█▄ █▄     
 ▄  █▌ █  █▀ ▄▄▄  ▀▄ █▄ █  ▐▄
 █ ▐█ █▌ █  █ ▄ ▀█ █ ▐█ █▌ ▐▌
 ▀██  █  █ ▐▌ █ ▐█ █  █▄ ▀█▀ 
    ▄█  █  █ ▐█ █▌ █ ▄ ▀█▄   
  ▀▀ ▄█▀ ▄█ ▄█ ▄█ █▌ ▀█▄▄  ▀ 
  ▀▀▀  ▄█▀ █▀ ▄▀ █▀ ▀█▄▄ ▀▀   
   ▀▀▀▀ ▄█▀ ▄█  █▀ ▀█▄  ▀▀▀   
    ▐▀▀▀ ▄█▀  ▄   ▀▄▄ ▀▀▀     
      █▀▀  ▄█▀ ▀█▄▄  ▀▀▀     
        ▀▀▀▄▄▀▀▀█▄▄▀▀▀       
          ▀  ▄▄▄▄ ▀           
KYC
LEGAL

Blockchain Identity Verification
▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅
             ━━━━━━━━━  ━━━━━     ━━━━━━━━━━   ━━━━━━━━   ━━━━━━━━━━━━

   ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
   ██


          ▄▄█▀▀▀█▄▄           
     █  █▀ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ▀█▄ █▄     
 ▄  █▌ █  █▀ ▄▄▄  ▀▄ █▄ █  ▐▄
 █ ▐█ █▌ █  █ ▄ ▀█ █ ▐█ █▌ ▐▌
 ▀██  █  █ ▐▌ █ ▐█ █  █▄ ▀█▀ 
    ▄█  █  █ ▐█ █▌ █ ▄ ▀█▄   
  ▀▀ ▄█▀ ▄█ ▄█ ▄█ █▌ ▀█▄▄  ▀ 
  ▀▀▀  ▄█▀ █▀ ▄▀ █▀ ▀█▄▄ ▀▀   
   ▀▀▀▀ ▄█▀ ▄█  █▀ ▀█▄  ▀▀▀   
    ▐▀▀▀ ▄█▀  ▄   ▀▄▄ ▀▀▀     
      █▀▀  ▄█▀ ▀█▄▄  ▀▀▀     
        ▀▀▀▄▄▀▀▀█▄▄▀▀▀       
          ▀  ▄▄▄▄ ▀           
.
-

██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██
                 Start Using for Free
           ▄▄█     
          ██▀       
    ▄▄▄▄▄  ▄▄▄▄▄   
   █████████████   
  █████████████     
  █████████████▄   
  ▐██████████████▌ 
   ▐█████████████   
     ▀███▀ ▀███▀   
Download on the
App Store

 ▀█▄▄           
 ██▄▀███▄▄       
 ████▄▀████▀▄▄   
 ██████▄▀█▀█████
 █████▀▄███▄▀▀   
 ███▀▄██▀▀       
 █▀▄█▀▀         
Get it on
Google Play
gourmet
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 311


View Profile
November 23, 2013, 11:09:31 PM
 #13228

so i understand it so far but what happens wen my machine finds a block ?

wen i see in my account found blocks ...example 1

can some one explane this ? what are the rewards or .... tell me how does this work ?

See this post several posts above...

At Slush's pool, you won't get any extra reward for finding a block. You can have a good feeling and can compare your reward with solo mining. :-)
ninthgate
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 27


View Profile
November 23, 2013, 11:23:52 PM
 #13229

so i understand it so far but what happens wen my machine finds a block ?

wen i see in my account found blocks ...example 1

can some one explane this ? what are the rewards or .... tell me how does this work ?

See this post several posts above...

At Slush's pool, you won't get any extra reward for finding a block. You can have a good feeling and can compare your reward with solo mining. :-)

well, the solving share would be higher, so you would see a little more.
xZork
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 646


View Profile
November 24, 2013, 12:06:01 AM
 #13230

Today is making up for the last few. Loving it!

TheWoodser
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 187


View Profile
November 24, 2013, 12:56:37 AM
 #13231

It doesn't work that way. It didn't take that long to find a specific block, it took that long to find any block. Every time someone else finds a block, we start looking for a new block based on what they found. That's why we call that 12 hours a round, not a block.

So every time you see "stratum detected a new block" in the miner log would indicate that the hashing power is being spent on solving a block rather than looking for a new one? Unless someone solves that block first. But if you don't see a new block detected for a long while, the hashing power is being spent finding a new one?

How is hashing power divided between looking for new blocks vs solving, is there a ratio set by the pool operator depending on how many active blocks have been found?

-noob.


When you see "stratum detected a new block" it means that someone somewhere in the world found a solution for the current block and that a new block is now being worked on. Solving is looking for new blocks. Different names for the same thing.

The thing is that there is more than one right solution for any given block. All the pools and solo people use different inputs than every one else in hopes that their input will find the desired output. Say your hashrate is 5 Gh/s, that means you are checking 5 million different inputs every second looking for the one output that will complete the block.

Ah, so there is only one active (known) block at a time that all miners are working to solve. Once that is solved, the answer leads to the next block? Also I was a bit thrown on the block vs round. I checked the wiki but will do some more looking.

Sorry if my questions are elementary, I am fairly new and I must say it is quite a lot to grasp. Thank you for taking the time out of your day.
Yes, you have got the blocks down. A round is how long it takes for the pool to find a block. If it took 10 hours for the pool to find a block, that is a 10 hour round. A lot of people will call that a 10 hour block, but that is confusing to new people.

Let me see if I get this myself please? A block is worked on by the entire network and pools. Any pool or miner can solve the block, hence ending their round? Correct? Thus, our round continues until we solve one of these blocks? Hence the 'stratum detected new block?'


I hope to clear this once and for all...... There are multiple pools and solo miners all looking for a block.

If you go to the "Stats" page on the Slush's website.... The far left column is the "ROUND" ID Number....This is since the POOL found a block, not since there is a new block

If you look at the "Block #" column... That is the block on the network.  See how they skip a few?  That is because they were found by someone other than us (Slush's Pool)


Tip Jars:  BTC: 1J8y3SLzGoY2gLYScsbTZmUH7dW18J1q4S          LTC:  LMkJZ8yuwtVr57GLYZ1JRWstQTc29Cfrtn     Doge: D95sgyBbRz8xhsQMAPmACYfB8vKWUAGuTn 
Rep Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=366385.0
kabopar
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 616


View Profile
November 24, 2013, 07:17:50 AM
 #13232

Reward payouts not happening again.... now more than 2 hours above the threshold.... Slush, pleaaaaase Cry
jmevz
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 251


View Profile
November 24, 2013, 07:22:06 AM
 #13233

Reward payouts not happening again.... now more than 2 hours above the threshold.... Slush, pleaaaaase Cry

What's your threshold set at? I've upped mine a little, not too worried, I know payouts will happen. I'm more worried about the exchange rate though. How long do we think it will keep this up?

jmevz
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 251


View Profile
November 24, 2013, 08:26:56 AM
 #13234

If only we could somewhat control our luck?

paulus51
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 406


Blockchain Identity Verification


View Profile
November 24, 2013, 10:03:31 AM
 #13235

issent it time for the slush pool to join this ? :

Today, BTC Guild has reduced the minimum MANUAL withdrawal level from 0.01 BTC to 0.001 BTC.
However, any payouts under 0.01 BTC will have the transaction fee (0.0005 BTC) deducted from their payout.
 
This is in response to the steady rise of BTC:USD exchange rates,
which have now made amounts as small as 0.002-0.003 useful as they are worth more than $1.

its a win win situation , i mean "low level"  miners wil have some coins earlyer / recular and de pool get some !  Smiley

          ▄▄█▀▀▀█▄▄           
     █  █▀ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ▀█▄ █▄     
 ▄  █▌ █  █▀ ▄▄▄  ▀▄ █▄ █  ▐▄
 █ ▐█ █▌ █  █ ▄ ▀█ █ ▐█ █▌ ▐▌
 ▀██  █  █ ▐▌ █ ▐█ █  █▄ ▀█▀ 
    ▄█  █  █ ▐█ █▌ █ ▄ ▀█▄   
  ▀▀ ▄█▀ ▄█ ▄█ ▄█ █▌ ▀█▄▄  ▀ 
  ▀▀▀  ▄█▀ █▀ ▄▀ █▀ ▀█▄▄ ▀▀   
   ▀▀▀▀ ▄█▀ ▄█  █▀ ▀█▄  ▀▀▀   
    ▐▀▀▀ ▄█▀  ▄   ▀▄▄ ▀▀▀     
      █▀▀  ▄█▀ ▀█▄▄  ▀▀▀     
        ▀▀▀▄▄▀▀▀█▄▄▀▀▀       
          ▀  ▄▄▄▄ ▀           
KYC
LEGAL

Blockchain Identity Verification
▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅▅
             ━━━━━━━━━  ━━━━━     ━━━━━━━━━━   ━━━━━━━━   ━━━━━━━━━━━━

   ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
   ██


          ▄▄█▀▀▀█▄▄           
     █  █▀ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ▀█▄ █▄     
 ▄  █▌ █  █▀ ▄▄▄  ▀▄ █▄ █  ▐▄
 █ ▐█ █▌ █  █ ▄ ▀█ █ ▐█ █▌ ▐▌
 ▀██  █  █ ▐▌ █ ▐█ █  █▄ ▀█▀ 
    ▄█  █  █ ▐█ █▌ █ ▄ ▀█▄   
  ▀▀ ▄█▀ ▄█ ▄█ ▄█ █▌ ▀█▄▄  ▀ 
  ▀▀▀  ▄█▀ █▀ ▄▀ █▀ ▀█▄▄ ▀▀   
   ▀▀▀▀ ▄█▀ ▄█  █▀ ▀█▄  ▀▀▀   
    ▐▀▀▀ ▄█▀  ▄   ▀▄▄ ▀▀▀     
      █▀▀  ▄█▀ ▀█▄▄  ▀▀▀     
        ▀▀▀▄▄▀▀▀█▄▄▀▀▀       
          ▀  ▄▄▄▄ ▀           
.
-

██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██
                 Start Using for Free
           ▄▄█     
          ██▀       
    ▄▄▄▄▄  ▄▄▄▄▄   
   █████████████   
  █████████████     
  █████████████▄   
  ▐██████████████▌ 
   ▐█████████████   
     ▀███▀ ▀███▀   
Download on the
App Store

 ▀█▄▄           
 ██▄▀███▄▄       
 ████▄▀████▀▄▄   
 ██████▄▀█▀█████
 █████▀▄███▄▀▀   
 ███▀▄██▀▀       
 █▀▄█▀▀         
Get it on
Google Play
bspurloc
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 569


View Profile
November 24, 2013, 04:26:18 PM
 #13236

it definitely is "a lot to grasp" but all the info you are looking for has already been published. google it

its like being in the Unix channel asking a question and the grumps telling u to use MAN. all the answers are in MAN! why ask anything
bspurloc
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 569


View Profile
November 24, 2013, 04:27:21 PM
 #13237

Today is making up for the last few. Loving it!

or.....
maybe something is wrong!
gourmet
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 311


View Profile
November 24, 2013, 11:09:40 PM
 #13238

it definitely is "a lot to grasp" but all the info you are looking for has already been published. google it

its like being in the Unix channel asking a question and the grumps telling u to use MAN. all the answers are in MAN! why ask anything

Why ask simple questions that are fully covered in the man there?
joef
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 88


View Profile
November 25, 2013, 12:19:35 PM
 #13239

Hi,
may someone explain to me please, how userdiff/vardiff is working in detail? I know how to calculate the nounces and how they are compared with the actual difficulty for validation before the miner release the nounces to the mining software.

What I don't understand:
- if a miner calculates with a higher difficulty than the actual difficulty, then the golden nounce may be skipped.
- If a miner calculates with a lower difficulty than the actual difficulty, then invalid nounces will be counted as valid.

Maybe someone can explain to me, how to modify the difficulty per miner.

Thank you

trasla
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 713



View Profile
November 25, 2013, 01:18:24 PM
 #13240

There is nothing like "the golden nounce" which could accidentally get skipped.
Theres a bunch of nounces who satisfy given network diff for the actual block with given transactions to be included in the block.
Which nounce solves the block changes all the time, as new transactions get included in the data we are hashing.

As for slush, you can no longer set the diff manually, the server sets your workers diff based on the workers speed.
Workers are not working with/on/for a special diff value, because the diff is per design something which can only be known _after_ the hash is calculated - thats the trick, after all, you cant decide which diff your result should fulfill, you have to try until you find one fitting your needs.

Your worker-specific diff value just does two things:
Tell your mining software, which shares to send to the server (all with diff equal or higher to your userdiff) and which to drop (all with lower diff).
Tell the server, how high your score for each share should be, the higher your diff, the higher the score.

That way, with higher diff you send less shares to the server but get higher score for each, and with lower diff you send more shares but get lower score. Over some time, this equals out. Higher diff is a little more variance, but a little less traffic to the server, so what the pool does by setting your diff is forcing you to accept a marginal higher variance in your earnings, which will still equal out quite fast, but reducing the server load at the same time, cause the pool will no longer get flooded with low diff shares by miner which hash too fast.
Pages: « 1 ... 612 613 614 615 616 617 618 619 620 621 622 623 624 625 626 627 628 629 630 631 632 633 634 635 636 637 638 639 640 641 642 643 644 645 646 647 648 649 650 651 652 653 654 655 656 657 658 659 660 661 [662] 663 664 665 666 667 668 669 670 671 672 673 674 675 676 677 678 679 680 681 682 683 684 685 686 687 688 689 690 691 692 693 694 695 696 697 698 699 700 701 702 703 704 705 706 707 708 709 710 711 712 ... 1133 »
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Sponsored by , a Bitcoin-accepting VPN.
Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!