[DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated

[bitboy11]

I just sold my 1,000 Devcoins!
Happy to get rid of that S H I T ! ! !
LOL!!!   

[develCuy]

I restarted the discussion on future Devcoin price, previously titled: "Good time to buy Devcoins!" now is: "Devcoin price forecast".

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1275749

Everyone's forecast is welcome!

[wiser]

I restarted the discussion on future Devcoin price, previously titled: "Good time to buy Devcoins!" now is: "Devcoin price forecast".

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1275749

Everyone's forecast is welcome!

I predict the price surges by an entire satoshi once the Devtome gets fixed

[jolskeboll]

I restarted the discussion on future Devcoin price, previously titled: "Good time to buy Devcoins!" now is: "Devcoin price forecast".

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1275749

Everyone's forecast is welcome!

I predict the price surges by an entire satoshi once the Devtome gets fixed

If vircurex actually run away with the money now (no deposits or withdrawals can be made) and the withdrawal problems that Cryptsy has, I predict that DVC will drop with one satoshi. However, there is still one market, BTER provides a DVC/CNY trading pair.

Too fucking bad, that I sent all my DVC out of Cryptsy, straight into the mouth of vircurex... 30M coins :/
So, I'll just beg and pray that vircurex just has a problem with their wallet services. Tested to send there a few DVC an hour ago, and the deposit cannot be seen either.

I guess this is quite a hot topic for devcoiners, as vircurex has been quite a big market place for us.

[ranlo]

I restarted the discussion on future Devcoin price, previously titled: "Good time to buy Devcoins!" now is: "Devcoin price forecast".

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1275749

Everyone's forecast is welcome!

I predict the price surges by an entire satoshi once the Devtome gets fixed

If vircurex actually run away with the money now (no deposits or withdrawals can be made) and the withdrawal problems that Cryptsy has, I predict that DVC will drop with one satoshi. However, there is still one market, BTER provides a DVC/CNY trading pair.

Too fucking bad, that I sent all my DVC out of Cryptsy, straight into the mouth of vircurex... 30M coins :/
So, I'll just beg and pray that vircurex just has a problem with their wallet services. Tested to send there a few DVC an hour ago, and the deposit cannot be seen either.

I guess this is quite a hot topic for devcoiners, as vircurex has been quite a big market place for us.

I haven't sold any of mine in a LONG time. I used to play the market to build up more... and then they crashed. I'm not sure if it's a good idea to liquidate at this point or remain hopeful that something can be done to infuse value into them again. Feel kind of stupid... had an offer when they were 120 sat still to buy all of mine at 110 off the market. Declined because I had faith in the project. Now they're almost valueless, .

[develCuy]

I restarted the discussion on future Devcoin price, previously titled: "Good time to buy Devcoins!" now is: "Devcoin price forecast".

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1275749

Everyone's forecast is welcome!

I predict the price surges by an entire satoshi once the Devtome gets fixed

If vircurex actually run away with the money now (no deposits or withdrawals can be made) and the withdrawal problems that Cryptsy has, I predict that DVC will drop with one satoshi. However, there is still one market, BTER provides a DVC/CNY trading pair.

Too fucking bad, that I sent all my DVC out of Cryptsy, straight into the mouth of vircurex... 30M coins :/
So, I'll just beg and pray that vircurex just has a problem with their wallet services. Tested to send there a few DVC an hour ago, and the deposit cannot be seen either.

I guess this is quite a hot topic for devcoiners, as vircurex has been quite a big market place for us.

I sent 1M yesterday, not showing up in my account either. Wrote to customerservice@vircurex.com a few minutes ago, hope they reply soon.

[develCuy]

I restarted the discussion on future Devcoin price, previously titled: "Good time to buy Devcoins!" now is: "Devcoin price forecast".

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1275749

Everyone's forecast is welcome!

I predict the price surges by an entire satoshi once the Devtome gets fixed

If vircurex actually run away with the money now (no deposits or withdrawals can be made) and the withdrawal problems that Cryptsy has, I predict that DVC will drop with one satoshi. However, there is still one market, BTER provides a DVC/CNY trading pair.

Too fucking bad, that I sent all my DVC out of Cryptsy, straight into the mouth of vircurex... 30M coins :/
So, I'll just beg and pray that vircurex just has a problem with their wallet services. Tested to send there a few DVC an hour ago, and the deposit cannot be seen either.

I guess this is quite a hot topic for devcoiners, as vircurex has been quite a big market place for us.

I haven't sold any of mine in a LONG time. I used to play the market to build up more... and then they crashed. I'm not sure if it's a good idea to liquidate at this point or remain hopeful that something can be done to infuse value into them again. Feel kind of stupid... had an offer when they were 120 sat still to buy all of mine at 110 off the market. Declined because I had faith in the project. Now they're almost valueless, .

Vircurex has a tradition of issues but they manage to solve things: http://www.coindesk.com/exchange-vircurex-freezes-withdrawals-claims-lack-reserves/

[ranlo]

I restarted the discussion on future Devcoin price, previously titled: "Good time to buy Devcoins!" now is: "Devcoin price forecast".

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1275749

Everyone's forecast is welcome!

I predict the price surges by an entire satoshi once the Devtome gets fixed

If vircurex actually run away with the money now (no deposits or withdrawals can be made) and the withdrawal problems that Cryptsy has, I predict that DVC will drop with one satoshi. However, there is still one market, BTER provides a DVC/CNY trading pair.

Too fucking bad, that I sent all my DVC out of Cryptsy, straight into the mouth of vircurex... 30M coins :/
So, I'll just beg and pray that vircurex just has a problem with their wallet services. Tested to send there a few DVC an hour ago, and the deposit cannot be seen either.

I guess this is quite a hot topic for devcoiners, as vircurex has been quite a big market place for us.

I haven't sold any of mine in a LONG time. I used to play the market to build up more... and then they crashed. I'm not sure if it's a good idea to liquidate at this point or remain hopeful that something can be done to infuse value into them again. Feel kind of stupid... had an offer when they were 120 sat still to buy all of mine at 110 off the market. Declined because I had faith in the project. Now they're almost valueless, .

Vircurex has a tradition of issues but they manage to solve things: http://www.coindesk.com/exchange-vircurex-freezes-withdrawals-claims-lack-reserves/

You quoted the wrong person. And I quit using Vircurex back when they stopped BTC withdrawals and screwed people over.

[develCuy]

For those of you who are worried about Vircurex, there is a thread for it:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1280378.0

[jolskeboll]

I restarted the discussion on future Devcoin price, previously titled: "Good time to buy Devcoins!" now is: "Devcoin price forecast".

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1275749

Everyone's forecast is welcome!

I predict the price surges by an entire satoshi once the Devtome gets fixed

If vircurex actually run away with the money now (no deposits or withdrawals can be made) and the withdrawal problems that Cryptsy has, I predict that DVC will drop with one satoshi. However, there is still one market, BTER provides a DVC/CNY trading pair.

Too fucking bad, that I sent all my DVC out of Cryptsy, straight into the mouth of vircurex... 30M coins :/
So, I'll just beg and pray that vircurex just has a problem with their wallet services. Tested to send there a few DVC an hour ago, and the deposit cannot be seen either.

I guess this is quite a hot topic for devcoiners, as vircurex has been quite a big market place for us.

I haven't sold any of mine in a LONG time. I used to play the market to build up more... and then they crashed. I'm not sure if it's a good idea to liquidate at this point or remain hopeful that something can be done to infuse value into them again. Feel kind of stupid... had an offer when they were 120 sat still to buy all of mine at 110 off the market. Declined because I had faith in the project. Now they're almost valueless, .

Vircurex has a tradition of issues but they manage to solve things: http://www.coindesk.com/exchange-vircurex-freezes-withdrawals-claims-lack-reserves/

Yep, but this has now continued for a week and makes me worried.

[develCuy]

"What happened to Devcoin leadership!" I'm asking and for sure lots of people do. Please follow the discussion at: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1288592

[wiser]

Any updates on the Devtome issue that was brought up here several weeks ago?

[ranlo]

Any updates on the Devtome issue that was brought up here several weeks ago?

Now as far as I'm aware. I feel like DVC is in a black hole right now, and TBH, I'm not even sure how to (technically-wise) pull out of it anymore. There have been great ideas tossed around over the past many months, but nothing has been put into action due to inability to or other things. I feel like it may be worth setting up a sort of "round table" of sorts, with a new domain/setup/etc. to start anew (not the coin, but things like the forums and Devtome), to push forward the ideas people have had for resurrecting it.

[wiser]

Any updates on the Devtome issue that was brought up here several weeks ago?

Now as far as I'm aware. I feel like DVC is in a black hole right now, and TBH, I'm not even sure how to (technically-wise) pull out of it anymore. There have been great ideas tossed around over the past many months, but nothing has been put into action due to inability to or other things. I feel like it may be worth setting up a sort of "round table" of sorts, with a new domain/setup/etc. to start anew (not the coin, but things like the forums and Devtome), to push forward the ideas people have had for resurrecting it.

I'd be up for that. In the mean time, I am still getting some DVC because I do a few little things admin-wise. I was hoping to write some more, but last I checked I can't update my invoice page or some of my previously published pages.

[develCuy]

Any updates on the Devtome issue that was brought up here several weeks ago?

Now as far as I'm aware. I feel like DVC is in a black hole right now, and TBH, I'm not even sure how to (technically-wise) pull out of it anymore. There have been great ideas tossed around over the past many months, but nothing has been put into action due to inability to or other things. I feel like it may be worth setting up a sort of "round table" of sorts, with a new domain/setup/etc. to start anew (not the coin, but things like the forums and Devtome), to push forward the ideas people have had for resurrecting it.

I agree on start anew, since the community built on Devtome deserves to continue growing and flourishing.

[notabot]

Devcoin is not functional now and hasn't been for awhile. Apart from the technical issues surrounding devtome, the inability to add new recipients to the receiver files has made devcoin dysfunctional. How can new bounties ever be paid out if a person can't be added to the receiver files? Not only is devcoin unable to get anyone to do any bounty work because of this, but devtome suffers the same fate, not being able to attract new writers. Additionally devtome has become a secondary failure due to technical faults blocking many (of the few) writers from earning any coin. At this point there might be 1 or 2 writers still going forwards and earning all 180,000,000 devcoins per month.

Come on guys, this is not a functioning ecosystem. It is a closed ecosystem with only a few earning coins, either for non existent admin duties with maybe 1 or 2 earning the majority of coins each round. The concept of devcoin, a currency that anyone can earn, anywhere in the world, has failed. How do you reform a system where no new recipients can be added? Can't do it.

The last paragraph at http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=devcoin reads;

"The primary concern is that in the long term, most organizations become corrupt, regardless of the intentions of the founders. The single best defense against the corruption of an organization is competition. Devcoin would be the first currency to give part of its generation to developers. However, developers are welcome to fork it in turn, and create say a reformcoin, that also gives generation to developers, but starts with another set of founders. If the reformcoin is less corrupt than devcoin, people will sell the devcoin and buy reformcoins. Even if most people remain with devcoin, just the possibility that people could move to reformcoin would tend to rein in the corruption of the devcoin...."

Unthinkingbit considered that forking may be necessary, and to continue with his vision, which is why we all are here, this option should be considered. I don't like to be proposing this but I dislike how the system has broken down more.

The potential for a currency that anyone can earn is still extremely good. A few ideas would be to have a better platform (wordpress or similar) that writers use. And why not make it so that readers get paid a small amount to vote for their fave writers, and the top voted ones would receive more pay, and ones down the rank get considerably lower pay. This would bring in traffic and bring the cream to the top.

Please consider the forking, as continuing down this path is not working ATM. 





 

[ranlo]

Devcoin is not functional now and hasn't been for awhile. Apart from the technical issues surrounding devtome, the inability to add new recipients to the receiver files has made devcoin dysfunctional. How can new bounties ever be paid out if a person can't be added to the receiver files? Not only is devcoin unable to get anyone to do any bounty work because of this, but devtome suffers the same fate, not being able to attract new writers. Additionally devtome has become a secondary failure due to technical faults blocking many (of the few) writers from earning any coin. At this point there might be 1 or 2 writers still going forwards and earning all 180,000,000 devcoins per month.

Come on guys, this is not a functioning ecosystem. It is a closed ecosystem with only a few earning coins, either for non existent admin duties with maybe 1 or 2 earning the majority of coins each round. The concept of devcoin, a currency that anyone can earn, anywhere in the world, has failed. How do you reform a system where no new recipients can be added? Can't do it.

The last paragraph at http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=devcoin reads;

"The primary concern is that in the long term, most organizations become corrupt, regardless of the intentions of the founders. The single best defense against the corruption of an organization is competition. Devcoin would be the first currency to give part of its generation to developers. However, developers are welcome to fork it in turn, and create say a reformcoin, that also gives generation to developers, but starts with another set of founders. If the reformcoin is less corrupt than devcoin, people will sell the devcoin and buy reformcoins. Even if most people remain with devcoin, just the possibility that people could move to reformcoin would tend to rein in the corruption of the devcoin...."

Unthinkingbit considered that forking may be necessary, and to continue with his vision, which is why we all are here, this option should be considered. I don't like to be proposing this but I dislike how the system has broken down more.

The potential for a currency that anyone can earn is still extremely good. A few ideas would be to have a better platform (wordpress or similar) that writers use. And why not make it so that readers get paid a small amount to vote for their fave writers, and the top voted ones would receive more pay, and ones down the rank get considerably lower pay. This would bring in traffic and bring the cream to the top.

Please consider the forking, as continuing down this path is not working ATM. 





 

+1 to the fork. I haven't done much in months because it's so broken. Forking has a negative stigma but at this point it's not an option. Do what needs to be done.

[weisoq]

Why can't new recipients be added to receiver files?

[wiser]

Pardon my technical ignorance, but why would Devcoin need to be forked just to have it working the way it used to work? I mean, at one time (and for a long time) it was working just fine from the technical perspective. What changed and why has it been nonfunctional for so long?

[Hunterbunter]

Pardon my technical ignorance, but why would Devcoin need to be forked just to have it working the way it used to work? I mean, at one time (and for a long time) it was working just fine from the technical perspective. What changed and why has it been nonfunctional for so long?

Hey Wiser, the big problem we have is that essential services are being run by people who just have no interest in keeping them ticking, and don't respond when you try to get them to do their job.

I suspect a falling price has a lot to do with that, along with lackluster leadership. I take responsibility for my part, but there's nothing I can do about the price. Devtome was great, but it was a black hole. It never even close to paid for itself, and the price whittled away, making it even harder to get people to make an effort. Even moving the site into other's hands has proven futile, and now it's in no mans land. I'm still trying to get this working again, and the last communication I received was that there was progress. My share proposal was too little too late, as the damage to the coin was already done. The unlimited shares devtome could earn meant developers ran for the hills.

To add to that, both of the only exchanges that deal with dvc have both recently stopped working. Cryptsy hasn't sent out btc for a month according to the forums, and Vircurex hasn't been processing deposits for a while apparently.

I'm more than happy to step aside and let someone else take charge if they believe they can turn this ship around. The only reason I could think of to fork devcoins would be to decentralize everything. Absolutely nothing that relies on one person alone to do their job.

I believe the key to that problem lies in DACs - Distributed Autonomous Corporations, and the only thing holding that back, as far as I can see, are that domain registrars don't allow domain purchases via API *and* bitcoins yet.

HB