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Author Topic: [ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts  (Read 85606 times)
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July 24, 2018, 09:52:58 AM
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July 24, 2018, 09:54:11 AM
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why so many trolls in this is topic?  Embarrassed

That's a damn good question. Luckily, many of us haven't been swayed by the insane level of FUD promulgated about this promising project. We realise that it's still alpha-stage and that there are bugs (both technical and social), but we see that what has been done is impressive, and the next steps are very exciting. People just need to be a little patient!
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July 24, 2018, 10:16:39 AM
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It is a good question but it happened with lot of successful projects in the early days.

I can try to offer a psychological explanation.  It is a known fact from psychological testing that humans perceive a "loss" of a certain fixed cost to be more painful emotionally than the same "gain" in terms of cost.  For example, experiments show that people will expend more efforts to avoid losing a bet of a certain amount than they will in attempting to win the bet for the same amount, and in general have to be offered a higher reward to balance out the potential loss even when the odds are 50/50.  This is called "loss aversion" and if you search that term online you can find out a lot more about it.

I think what we see here is potentially a "reverse loss aversion".   In practice when faced with a project like the Dero Project people see a lot of unknowns and a high potential reward if they "get on board" but also the potential for a loss if they are wrong about "getting on board".  Worse, they fear they will be "scammed" if they get on board and it turns out those fears are right, i.e. "taken for a fool".  The potential loss here is experienced as much more painful than the potential reward for "getting it right", even though the risk/reward ratio is quite low [edit: very low]

Second, a lot of people (though not everyone) see the choice of getting on board or not as a "leap of faith"; they have to have "faith" in the underlying tech or "faith" in the developer team.  In reality this should be a purely rational decision.  You do your research, look at the evidence for the soundness of the project, and make your decision based on your evidence.  This is how George Soros and Warren Buffet made their billions; not by taking "leaps of faith".  But in reality we are emotional creatures and most of us have to see our decisions in emotional terms and experience them that way, too, which makes purely rational decision-making really (really) difficult.

So what happens to those people who see the choice as a "leap of faith" but are not prepared to make that leap, for whatever reason?  Or did make the investment but have a "loss of faith" when they read misinformation or lack of information a certain way and also see prices go down (as they have done recently) but not enough of a loss of faith to simply cut their losses and move on?  Well, some (by no means all, but a small but vocal minority) feel the "closeness" of the painful outcome of making the leap and getting it wrong, and basically express that negative emotional outcome by "FUDDING" the project, that is, by making vocal their fears as a way of offsetting them, of being "right" in at least this way.  No evidence is required for this because evidence (a part of rational decision making) is entirely beside the point.  What matters is vocalising fears and validating them by having others also start vocalising them, without paying much if any attention to evidence.

In case it is not blindingly obvious, I am not endorsing ANY of this.  I am just trying to offer a psychological explanation for a phenomenon a lot of people have been asking about.  It is logical, from this perspective, that a high potential reward, even with low risk, will increase the FUD factor.
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July 24, 2018, 10:19:43 AM
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Captain, I found your other side project/scam

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4693135

Giving up on DERO already?

Why not also make this one in Golang? Claim security and stuff and con some people to work for you too?

I mean if you want to scam more people at least you could have told me so I can get some profits too, instead of telling your newb board members to ban me

Legit questions are addressed, but trolls are ignored. Beep...bloop... beep... beep.



MagicSmoker, go read the post and comments in the link above and then tell me that's not captain
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July 24, 2018, 10:46:20 AM
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Captain, I found your other side project/scam

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4693135

Giving up on DERO already?

Why not also make this one in Golang? Claim security and stuff and con some people to work for you too?

I mean if you want to scam more people at least you could have told me so I can get some profits too, instead of telling your newb board members to ban me

Legit questions are addressed, but trolls are ignored. Beep...bloop... beep... beep.



MagicSmoker, go read the post and comments in the link above and then tell me that's not captain


Err, I think Capt has enough on his plate. How is this baseless assertion not just spreading 'fear, uncertainty, and doubt' about DERO? Stop trolling.
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July 24, 2018, 10:47:54 AM
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Captain, I found your other side project/scam

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4693135

Giving up on DERO already?

Why not also make this one in Golang? Claim security and stuff and con some people to work for you too?

I mean if you want to scam more people at least you could have told me so I can get some profits too, instead of telling your newb board members to ban me

Legit questions are addressed, but trolls are ignored. Beep...bloop... beep... beep.



MagicSmoker, go read the post and comments in the link above and then tell me that's not captain


Err, I think Capt has enough on his plate. How is this baseless assertion not just spreading 'fear, uncertainty, and doubt' about DERO? Stop trolling.

Looks like you don't know captain good enough, I think magicsmoker does, I saw him taunting captain in this thread since january Wink
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July 24, 2018, 11:00:40 AM
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MagicSmoker, go read the post and comments in the link above and then tell me that's not captain


No, that really doesn't seem like him at all. Captain is a man of few words, to be sure, but I'm not seeing any more similarity between him and BTCN-dev as some people have claimed there is between you and Serena. Ahem.

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July 24, 2018, 11:20:18 AM
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MagicSmoker, go read the post and comments in the link above and then tell me that's not captain


No, that really doesn't seem like him at all. Captain is a man of few words, to be sure, but I'm not seeing any more similarity between him and BTCN-dev as some people have claimed there is between you and Serena. Ahem.



I have hard evidence that point to him, which I'll be using for my personal gain Wink if/when any of the 2 projects gets any actual momentum

And yeah call anyone you don't like Serena/Mojo, and if I talk somewhat in a feminine way, then I must be Serena........   Ugh too many newbs in crypto these days
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July 24, 2018, 11:34:40 AM
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I have hard evidence that point to him, which I'll be using for my personal gain Wink if/when any of the 2 projects gets any actual momentum

And yeah call anyone you don't like Serena/Mojo, and if I talk somewhat in a feminine way, then I must be Serena........   Ugh too many newbs in crypto these days

This response only merits the automaton bot: beep...bloop...beep...beep

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July 24, 2018, 11:41:26 AM
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MagicSmoker, go read the post and comments in the link above and then tell me that's not captain


No, that really doesn't seem like him at all. Captain is a man of few words, to be sure, but I'm not seeing any more similarity between him and BTCN-dev as some people have claimed there is between you and Serena. Ahem.



I have hard evidence that point to him, which I'll be using for my personal gain Wink if/when any of the 2 projects gets any actual momentum

And yeah call anyone you don't like Serena/Mojo, and if I talk somewhat in a feminine way, then I must be Serena........   Ugh too many newbs in crypto these days

If you have hard evidence show it, or GTFO because for now you are trolling and spreading FUD, sincerly you deserve your Ban, deal with it.

Grow up and come back once you'll be more mature in your head. 
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July 24, 2018, 12:07:22 PM
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MagicSmoker, go read the post and comments in the link above and then tell me that's not captain


No, that really doesn't seem like him at all. Captain is a man of few words, to be sure, but I'm not seeing any more similarity between him and BTCN-dev as some people have claimed there is between you and Serena. Ahem.



I have hard evidence that point to him, which I'll be using for my personal gain Wink if/when any of the 2 projects gets any actual momentum

And yeah call anyone you don't like Serena/Mojo, and if I talk somewhat in a feminine way, then I must be Serena........   Ugh too many newbs in crypto these days

If you have hard evidence show it, or GTFO because for now you are trolling and spreading FUD, sincerly you deserve your Ban, deal with it.

Grow up and come back once you'll be more mature in your head. 

Why show it for free when I can make profit from it? What do you think I am? a newb?
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July 24, 2018, 12:44:45 PM
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MagicSmoker, go read the post and comments in the link above and then tell me that's not captain


No, that really doesn't seem like him at all. Captain is a man of few words, to be sure, but I'm not seeing any more similarity between him and BTCN-dev as some people have claimed there is between you and Serena. Ahem.



I have hard evidence that point to him, which I'll be using for my personal gain Wink if/when any of the 2 projects gets any actual momentum

And yeah call anyone you don't like Serena/Mojo, and if I talk somewhat in a feminine way, then I must be Serena........   Ugh too many newbs in crypto these days

If you have hard evidence show it, or GTFO because for now you are trolling and spreading FUD, sincerly you deserve your Ban, deal with it.

Grow up and come back once you'll be more mature in your head. 

Why show it for free when I can make profit from it? What do you think I am? a newb?

Hahaha, I have strong evidence that this coin belongs to this shitty dev https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2910750.0

Check the !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! at the end of his writing style Wink
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July 24, 2018, 01:09:13 PM
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MagicSmoker, go read the post and comments in the link above and then tell me that's not captain


No, that really doesn't seem like him at all. Captain is a man of few words, to be sure, but I'm not seeing any more similarity between him and BTCN-dev as some people have claimed there is between you and Serena. Ahem.





I have hard evidence that point to him, which I'll be using for my personal gain Wink if/when any of the 2 projects gets any actual momentum

And yeah call anyone you don't like Serena/Mojo, and if I talk somewhat in a feminine way, then I must be Serena........   Ugh too many newbs in crypto these days

If you have hard evidence show it, or GTFO because for now you are trolling and spreading FUD, sincerly you deserve your Ban, deal with it.

Grow up and come back once you'll be more mature in your head.  

Why show it for free when I can make profit from it? What do you think I am? a newb?

Hahaha, I have strong evidence that this coin belongs to this shitty dev https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2910750.0

Check the !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! at the end of his writing style Wink

Yeah create a new account just to post that's smart, I have evidence independent from writing style, Captain knows what I'm talking about Wink

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July 24, 2018, 01:18:36 PM
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Yeah create a new account just to post that's smart, I have evidence independent from writing style, Captain knows what I'm talking about Wink



Nope, I am on Discord and reading all your shit posts but since you are banned I posted it here. I am long time here just not on btc talk. Wink

Honestly, if Captain want to do scam, he will do this in smarter way not amateur like that. You exactly know how smart he is.
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July 24, 2018, 01:47:15 PM
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The tech is true guys deal with it, source code who was leaked is the proof Dero is not a scam.

Your FUD wont work anymore.
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July 24, 2018, 02:16:10 PM
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You exactly know how smart he is.

I know exactly opposite of that Wink
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July 24, 2018, 02:50:01 PM
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hey serena i received your private message thanks



MagicSmoker, go read the post and comments in the link above and then tell me that's not captain


No, that really doesn't seem like him at all. Captain is a man of few words, to be sure, but I'm not seeing any more similarity between him and BTCN-dev as some people have claimed there is between you and Serena. Ahem.



I have hard evidence that point to him, which I'll be using for my personal gain Wink if/when any of the 2 projects gets any actual momentum

And yeah call anyone you don't like Serena/Mojo, and if I talk somewhat in a feminine way, then I must be Serena........   Ugh too many newbs in crypto these days

If you have hard evidence show it, or GTFO because for now you are trolling and spreading FUD, sincerly you deserve your Ban, deal with it.

Grow up and come back once you'll be more mature in your head. 

Why show it for free when I can make profit from it? What do you think I am? a newb?
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July 24, 2018, 02:50:53 PM
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You exactly know how smart he is.

I know exactly opposite of that Wink

You are changing your mind very quick. Your game is over, Serena.
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July 24, 2018, 02:51:02 PM
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You exactly know how smart he is.

I know exactly opposite of that Wink

I know which evidence you're referring to, but I'm afraid I remain uncompelled to believe they're the same devs. In fact, I used the same logic when someone impersonated the ETNX developer and claimed Captain was a co-developer. Apparently it is not uncommon for these projects to be appended with... Hmm, well you know.


Regarding the actual project, perhaps you think the fact that it has 10sec blocks is also compelling. Let me say that there doesn't appear to be anything revolutionary about this project. The block time was changed to 10 seconds and it suffers from the same double spend problems & orphan problems any CryptoNote coin does. In fact, with a settlement time of 100 seconds, "BTCN" should be highly vulnerable to attack.


I am afraid your discord tag was well earned. Please seek more evidence before continuing to FUD this project.
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July 24, 2018, 02:51:43 PM
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everyday you create new info when old doesnt work thats amazing,

BTW answers is no , iwont join you and mojo

just stop messaging me already


You exactly know how smart he is.

I know exactly opposite of that Wink
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