Incoming Avalon News 8/9/2013

[Ytterbium]

The best way to deal with this is to pool resources and get chips directly from a fab, ALA ASICMiner. Labcoin's costs from the fab are about $2/Gh/s.  They have their first 130nm chip off at the fab, and are working on a 65nm design. I think their shares are a good bet. ActiveMining and BTCGarden are doing the same.

Too bad the PRC is an unfree nation of robotic slave insects not allowed to own the means of self-defense, a basic human right.

If some thug showed up at an American's house intending to threaten/extort their brilliant entrepreneurial child, they would either be killed on the spot or taken somewhere very unpleasant to extract the names of who sent them.

From now on, I only invest in ASIC firms located in countries that respect/protect the right to keep and bear arms.

WTF are you talking about?

[tarmi]

yes, dont hijack this thread with some rubbish!

YIFU GIFU TOOK 8 mil $ in preorders, didnt deliver, he fucked a bunch of small miners, and you are talking about avalon team and their security?

Dont feed that Yifu troll!

[iCEBREAKER]

WTF are you talking about?

Try reading, instead of deleting, the context.  The context is the key my dear, confused, young beginning reader.

[lemonte]

Terrible PR from Avalon! They brush the issues under the table and then rub salt into the wounds, announcing new, improved products.

Anyone would be stupid to not know that these chips would be quickly outdated, that is how mining BTC is going, but I personally was going to reinvest the money in new tech once i broke even, now with my chips probably arriving after the new generation chips this is not going to be possible.

As has been mentioned multiple times in this and other threads, if this was any other product there would be outrage!

I know one thing for sure, I wont be buying new chips from them, even if i don't have to pre order

Trust is an important factor in any expensive purchase and I have 0% trust for them now.

[eve]

The only fair thing he can do is refund the groupbuyers, and then they can refund the clients (minus their markup ofcourse).
Then, he can announce a new IN STOCK price where previous group buyers can get a first in line order queue.
With that, i would for sure buy double the amount i have on order through my group buyer if i know it will be in stock, and at a lower rate.
I doubt it will happend though.

Good Call but would the group buy promoters agreed?

[Milan77]

It's already 11:21 AM, on 8/9 in Shenzhen!

You know how it is - you've been on a long plane flight - you've been drinking free booze all flight in first class - you get back in front of your computer you've not been near for weeks due to partying, whoring and boozing in Vegas, and it's like
"Hmm PMs and emails while I've been away ... oh well, guess I better say something before I pass out so I can ignore that crap for another week ..."
Wakes up the next morning ... oh crap I said "tomorrow" in the post ... oh well no one will notice anything different if I do nothing for a few days, they're used to that from me, and I am only a PR guy, not like I know anything about hardware or software and have control over anything except delaying deliveries ... ... ...

don't you got better things to do like writing code mr. software engineer than waste time with some first-class-riding booze-drinking "pr guy" like me?

anyhow, update is live on main page. http://avalon-asics.com

fuck you fat ass, shipping the orders on time or say something about compensation for the loss.

AT LEAST SOMETHING LIKE THAT!

I demand compensation for late devices! Price was determinated by 1 month ROI.
As the matter stands now ROI will be never reached. BECAUSE YOU WAS LATE !!!!

Do you realize that behaving like you do will bring dark clouds on everyone involved with Avalon team.

[Ytterbium]

WTF are you talking about?

Try reading, instead of deleting, the context.  The context is the key my dear, confused, young beginning reader.

What the hell does the 2nd amendment have to do with taking someone "somewhere very unpleasant to extract the names of who sent them."? Are you delusional or something? You are aware there are other amendments besides the 2nd right?

[g83]

Nobody ever sold any ROI !

[Akka]

Nobody ever sold any ROI !

 

That makes no sense.

[g83]

Nobody ever sold any ROI !

 

That makes no sense.

Just was a quote to the comment: I demand compensation for late devices! Price was determinated by 1 month ROI.

Noone ever made promises about any return of investment especially in bitcoinbusiness..

[demzie]

Nobody ever sold any ROI !

The peeps who got Avalon Batch 1, got a nice ROI i think..

[Milan77]

Nobody ever sold any ROI !

 

That makes no sense.

Price of Avalon units IS based fundamentally on ROI point of 1 month!
END OF STORY!

[iCEBREAKER]

WTF are you talking about?

Try reading, instead of deleting, the context.  The context is the key my dear, confused, young beginning reader.

What the hell does the 2nd amendment have to do with taking someone "somewhere very unpleasant to extract the names of who sent them."? Are you delusional or something? You are aware there are other amendments besides the 2nd right?

Try reading, instead of deleting, the context.  The context is the key my dear, confused, young beginning reader.

[Milan77]

Nobody ever sold any ROI !

 

That makes no sense.

Just was a quote to the comment: I demand compensation for late devices! Price was determinated by 1 month ROI.

Noone ever made promises about any return of investment especially in bitcoinbusiness..

Promises made on delivery time.
Stop playing stupid.

Avalon in may is MUCH different than avalon in july. You understand that

[Akka]

Nobody ever sold any ROI !

 

That makes no sense.

Just was a quote to the comment: I demand compensation for late devices! Price was determinated by 1 month ROI.

Noone ever made promises about any return of investment especially in bitcoinbusiness..

So what your are actually wanted to say is:

Nobody ever made a 100% ROI.

OK, got it now.

[g83]

Nobody ever sold any ROI !

 

That makes no sense.

Just was a quote to the comment: I demand compensation for late devices! Price was determinated by 1 month ROI.

Noone ever made promises about any return of investment especially in bitcoinbusiness..

So what your are actually wanted to say is:

Nobody ever made a 100% ROI.

OK, got it now.

I think some made much more than that - bought B1 for 1500 $ - sold for 80 BTC and more - thats > 500 % ROI

[Milan77]

Nobody ever sold any ROI !

 

That makes no sense.

Just was a quote to the comment: I demand compensation for late devices! Price was determinated by 1 month ROI.

Noone ever made promises about any return of investment especially in bitcoinbusiness..

So what your are actually wanted to say is:

Nobody ever made a 100% ROI.

OK, got it now.

I think some made much more than that - bought B1 for 1500 $ - sold for 80 BTC and more - thats > 500 % ROI

You play STUPID again

What about US that got devices in july?
Or your perception is based only on B1 devices?

[g83]

I see your point Milan77 but what can we do ? Expect the BTC-Price to go back up this autumn and you will even get a "ROI" with your B3-order soon

[Akka]

@g83

Year, I confused you comment, due to a missing quote and just  saw it standing there alone.

Forget all my posts.

[g83]

my fault