brooklynbtc
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January 25, 2014, 06:23:32 PM |
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Client 0.5.10 stood on the local machine. My purse number 378082518108298527. Coin purse went to 13664022353450653976. Password length of 32 characters (5 words). Use uppercase and lowercase letters. Client rocked by reference to the first village, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345619.msg4690322 # msg4690322 Hash check. This is getting more and more disturbing! What's happening? Cracking 5 words is cracking 5 x 1 word lol.... It isn't. Other than that, i feel like this is appearing far too often for it to be random. 5xxk NXT stolen 108k NXT stolen 12,5k NXT stolen All have the same pattern (thus being not related to EpicThomas) Before we go into panic modes, wasn't the red line of them all that they used passwords that weren't really strong? 3 of those accounts were mine, and i posted those passwords already here. They were ~60 digits hashes, that were randomly created by the Keepass 2 algo. Twin,, didnt you admit that you used the compromised client?
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bitcoinpaul
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January 25, 2014, 06:23:57 PM |
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Let me understand this.... The guy who created this thing started with 1 billion coins. Let's assume that he shared that 1 billion coins with 99 other people that would give each of them 10 million coins. Even assuming that he managed to get the price to only $0.01, he has already made $100,000 off of that. and it's closer to 0.07. And I know for a fact that he didn't give 99% of the coins away to other people. Does this seem fair to you?
http://nxtcoin.blogspot.de/search/label/Myths
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salsacz
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January 25, 2014, 06:28:20 PM |
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Action!
these sites bring us the most of the visitors, so everyone please, 5 seconds: click: http://www.cryptmarketcap.com/Vote: "Do you want us to list NXT?" - Yes (in the right upper corner) I agree that this is incredibly important. I just voted, good spot salsacz. they tweeted me about the poll
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Conurtrol
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January 25, 2014, 06:30:58 PM |
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Action!
these sites bring us the most of the visitors, so everyone please, 5 seconds: click: http://www.cryptmarketcap.com/Vote: "Do you want us to list NXT?" - Yes (in the right upper corner) +1 Everyone should do this. It only takes literally 2 seconds.
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Kattywampus
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January 25, 2014, 06:32:08 PM |
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Update #2 from Bitcoin Conference Miami Leetcoin - "Compete in your favorite games for Bitcoin." http://www.leetcoin.com/The first person shooter we saw looked good (see screenshot) I spoke with the CEO. He is very open to the idea of adding in alts such as Nxt, I let him know we have a number of talented developers that could assist with getting a wallet to work. He's agreed to do a conference call with their CIO, we'll follow-up early next week. Getting gamers on board would be BIG. *** Action Item *** Take a look at the website and simply thank them for meeting with our community member Matt. admin@leetcoin.comking@leetcoin *** Reminder *** This is just a first step to discuss possible options but one that's great for Nxt in the competitive gaming market. http://i42.tinypic.com/x6luhi.jpgPs The pic wasn't me, I'll get one up in a bit.
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Zahlen
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January 25, 2014, 06:32:51 PM |
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I just realized, it's not trying to frame Salsa, it's trying to challenge him! (Again, speculative. But it makes so much sense to me!)
+1. That's how it looks to me, too. There is something going on here beyond just a heist, and it has been that way for weeks. Somebody is trying to get brownie points for being clever. http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/brownie-points.htmlOr maybe someone with a vendetta/rivalry against Salsa from a previous trade gone bad and subsequent investigation. (This is like something right out of the movies! I want Neal Stephenson to write the book. And if Hollywood bids for the rights, don't sell it cheap!)
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kunibopl
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January 25, 2014, 06:35:03 PM |
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Do you think nxt will be around 0,00003 any time soon again? Just planning my shopping tour xD
I say... if it breaks 0.00011 before we see 0.00004 again... 0.00003 will only be seen in the crypto history books! Is 0,00011 based on any "investment rules" or just a guess? there are no rules and it's always just a guess. any chart analyst would do more valuable work by telling fairytales to children. in these fairytales at least is some truth.
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NXT: 5231236538923913892
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loopgate88
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January 25, 2014, 06:37:46 PM |
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Let me understand this.... The guy who created this thing started with 1 billion coins. Let's assume that he shared that 1 billion coins with 99 other people that would give each of them 10 million coins. Even assuming that he managed to get the price to only $0.01, he has already made $100,000 off of that. and it's closer to 0.07. And I know for a fact that he didn't give 99% of the coins away to other people. Does this seem fair to you?
The hangup on the initial distribution is just ridiculous. Why don't you go to your bank, your employer, Amazon.com and tell them all you want their rates from 10 years ago? Meaning all the costs from 10 years ago with all the reward of today. I am not an original stakeholder but I see no issue with the gains. It was all very uncertain and a big risk then. If nxt was only worth $0.00001 no one would be complaining about this but because someone, somewhere made money and you didn't they have to be up to no good. You are greedy, not BCNext or the stakeholders.
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TwinWinNerD
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CEO Bitpanda.com
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January 25, 2014, 06:40:05 PM |
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Client 0.5.10 stood on the local machine. My purse number 378082518108298527. Coin purse went to 13664022353450653976. Password length of 32 characters (5 words). Use uppercase and lowercase letters. Client rocked by reference to the first village, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345619.msg4690322 # msg4690322 Hash check. This is getting more and more disturbing! What's happening? Cracking 5 words is cracking 5 x 1 word lol.... It isn't. Other than that, i feel like this is appearing far too often for it to be random. 5xxk NXT stolen 108k NXT stolen 12,5k NXT stolen All have the same pattern (thus being not related to EpicThomas) Before we go into panic modes, wasn't the red line of them all that they used passwords that weren't really strong? 3 of those accounts were mine, and i posted those passwords already here. They were ~60 digits hashes, that were randomly created by the Keepass 2 algo. Twin,, didnt you admit that you used the compromised client? No, i didn't. Also i am 100% sure, that i had no compromised client.
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gs02xzz
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January 25, 2014, 06:40:10 PM |
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Update #2 from Bitcoin Conference Miami Leetcoin - "Compete in your favorite games for Bitcoin." http://www.leetcoin.com/The first person shooter we saw looked good (see screenshot) I spoke with the CEO. He is very open to the idea of adding in alts such as Nxt, I let him know we have a number of talented developers that could assist with getting a wallet to work. He's agreed to do a conference call with their CIO, we'll follow-up early next week. Getting gamers on board would be BIG. *** Action Item *** Take a look at the website and simply thank them for meeting with our community member Matt. admin@leetcoin.comking@leetcoin *** Reminder *** This is just a first step to discuss possible options but one that's great for Nxt in the competitive gaming market. Ps The pic wasn't me, I'll get one up in a bit. +1000. Thanks!
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Damelon
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January 25, 2014, 07:03:15 PM |
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I am pleased to say that Nxt convinced me to move away from a Windows platform completely.
The amount of work it takes to be reasonably sure that it isn't infected with something or other has been nagging at me for weeks now.
Moved over to a Linux environment now.
I also posted security warnings at the top of today's summaries to hopefully jolt some people into passphrase safety.
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kunibopl
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January 25, 2014, 07:07:48 PM |
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No, i didn't. Also i am 100% sure, that i had no compromised client.
but you used a vanitygenerator, maybe even a closed source one.
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Zahlen
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January 25, 2014, 07:19:15 PM |
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I need help with http://wiki.nxtcrypto.org/wiki/How-To:GenerateStrongPassword. I've looked at many sites that describe how to generate strong passwords. I find most unsatisfactory. They're either outdated, or just instruction lists that don't explain rationales. The requirements for Nxt passwords are orders of magnitude greater than what folks will be used to for other applications; I'd like people to understand why they need to be as careful as they should be, rather than mindlessly following instructions. EDIT: Everyone, feel free to edit, and especially comment in the Discussion page. We need to use the wiki Talk pages more. Editors also need to know the rationale behind why pages are structured and written as they are, rather than simply piling on edits!
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Damelon
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January 25, 2014, 07:20:43 PM |
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In related news: today I discovered one of my collegues had taped off his webcam, because he was "afraid someone might be spying on him", but only snorted when I pointed out that securing his system with a four letter word wasn't all that safe to begin with...
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google98
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January 25, 2014, 07:36:19 PM |
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Update #2 from Bitcoin Conference Miami Leetcoin - "Compete in your favorite games for Bitcoin." http://www.leetcoin.com/The first person shooter we saw looked good (see screenshot) I spoke with the CEO. He is very open to the idea of adding in alts such as Nxt, I let him know we have a number of talented developers that could assist with getting a wallet to work. He's agreed to do a conference call with their CIO, we'll follow-up early next week. Getting gamers on board would be BIG. *** Action Item *** Take a look at the website and simply thank them for meeting with our community member Matt. admin@leetcoin.comking@leetcoin *** Reminder *** This is just a first step to discuss possible options but one that's great for Nxt in the competitive gaming market. Ps The pic wasn't me, I'll get one up in a bit. great job!! talking about nxt in games, we should maybe contact sony and offer nxt for the to-be-released mmo "Everquest Next" ( https://www.everquestnext.com/) and ask whether nxt could play a role there xD
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Ebrelus
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January 25, 2014, 07:42:48 PM |
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IDEA
I was whining about "aristocratic" redistribution and ROI limited only to biggest NXT holders getting even richer on poor majority transactions traffic.
BUT! I figured out that there is still a possibility of concentration of NXTs in hand of bigger trusted holder(s) for purpose of proporcional sharing that bigger interest gained this way for profit of many small holders.
I'm shocked that there is a such simple way to solve so fundamental and so irritating problem. Now i don't have the reason to criticise NXT redistribution so much as earlier anymore and i can look at NXT future with much bigger optimism.
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Any feedback on this idea? Any comment? Noone cares that this makes narrow redistribution effects less damaging to common NXTers and make system more democratic?
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xyzzyx
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I don't really come from outer space.
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January 25, 2014, 07:44:48 PM |
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It's been years since I last looked, but Markus Kuhn was doing some extremely interesting things with TEMPEST.
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"An awful lot of code is being written ... in languages that aren't very good by people who don't know what they're doing." -- Barbara Liskov
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Anon136
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January 25, 2014, 07:47:18 PM |
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Rep Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=381041If one can not confer upon another a right which he does not himself first possess, by what means does the state derive the right to engage in behaviors from which the public is prohibited?
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