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March 19, 2014, 09:56:58 AM
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Still there Shocked

Yep... Guess they are free game if LiQio doesn't want them...

But if whoever takes them will we think you are Emule

Lol gone to 1368640093026814904 - congratulations...

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March 19, 2014, 10:00:15 AM
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Still there Shocked

Yep... Guess they are free game if LiQio doesn't want them...

But if whoever takes them will we think you are Emule

Lol gone to 1368640093026814904 - congratulations...

Isn't it beautiful, now Emule has his first 500 NXTs!

You made a dream come true  Grin

PS If somebody else took it: You'll never be able to sleep in peace ever again
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March 19, 2014, 10:02:13 AM
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Any one up for a treasure hunt....

Find the Emule quote and win 500 NXT

I've sent 500 NXT to this account 14788456601482321073

The passphrase is my favourite Emule related quote so far this month

Either said by him or by one of us about him and its in this thread for the month of March...

Find the quote and win the NXT..... and Please tell us when you do....

Love this Smiley

This is why you don't ignore people  Grin

Thank you for giving to the community, Emule!

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March 19, 2014, 10:02:37 AM
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Still there Shocked

Yep... Guess they are free game if LiQio doesn't want them...

But if whoever takes them will we think you are Emule

Lol gone to 1368640093026814904 - congratulations...

Isn't it beautiful, now Emule has his first 500 NXTs!

You made a dream come true  Grin

PS If somebody else took it: You'll never be able to sleep in peace ever again

Don't be surprised if someone stole it. There are a few here that don't care about ethics.
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March 19, 2014, 10:08:58 AM
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Still there Shocked

Yep... Guess they are free game if LiQio doesn't want them...

But if whoever takes them will we think you are Emule

Lol gone to 1368640093026814904 - congratulations...

Isn't it beautiful, now Emule has his first 500 NXTs!

You made a dream come true  Grin

PS If somebody else took it: You'll never be able to sleep in peace ever again

Don't be surprised if someone stole it. There are a few here that don't care about ethics.

That would be a truly poor soul...

Emule can you confirm reception?
Emule please put your NXT address in your signature - don't give thieves a chance!
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March 19, 2014, 10:13:42 AM
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Nxt AT could bring lottery to Nxt.

I know its a simple idea, but I would like a Nxt lotto built into the clients. helps keep the Nxt circulating Smiley

+1

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March 19, 2014, 10:15:01 AM
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For the eMule quote bounty, who is going to own up to trying "Your mother is a l*sbian" as their first guess?!

Come on, don't be shy! I would estimate at least 75% of you did  Cheesy
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March 19, 2014, 10:16:28 AM
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March 19, 2014, 10:16:55 AM
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For the eMule quote bounty, who is going to own up to trying "Your mother is a l*sbian" as their first guess?!

Come on, don't be shy! I would estimate at least 75% of you did  Cheesy

I did. It was the most recent and most notable one.
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March 19, 2014, 10:18:29 AM
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From Nxt-e

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=521597.0

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Deposit ANY amount of NXT, you'll get 500 more

Yes but not 500 NXT but 500 piCoins. You misunderstood it.

2014/03/15

We just got TWO million piCoins from piCoin Dev team. We decide to do a grant giveaway. Everyone who deposits any amount of BTC or NXT will get 500 piCoins instantly. You will get 1000 piCoins if you deposit both BTC and NXT. The giveaway is from now(2014/03/15) to the end of March(2014/03/31).
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March 19, 2014, 10:27:59 AM
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Regarding pandaisftw's document:

( https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1FsyumJLmQ9ckLNkHlmW1oPRGOoK3oAg_pVjFz3s0fNw/edit#slide=id.g1ce2334a0_00 )

point 1: I don't like anyone being able to create the same name. It will lead to confusion. However, it's likely that this solution will be implemented in the core anyway.

point 2: if you can just choose whichever company name you want, scammers would be able to take advantage of this. An alias contents can be updated easily.

This also means that both the name and company name can be updated, again leading to confusion.

Images may be useful, have to have some system to flag images though..

Same with audio/video.

Perhaps it would just be easier to supply a URL.




Thanks for taking the time to look at this Wesleyh, I know you're busy Wink

Still catching up to the thread, sorry if this has already been discussed:

About point 2, and clarification of my idea:

1) *Aliases* names themselves cannot be changed (ie. they can be squatted). Thus, if I register the alias "123Industries", and we use <AliasIssuer=123Industries> tag on the asset, there is no way the issuer can change his or her company name. The URI field of this alias can hold an URL, but then the issuer should include an alias token field if he plans to do so. Additionally, the account # registering the alias must be the same as the account # issuing the asset, otherwise the client should reject the asset as a phony.

2) Asset name tags cannot be changed. I updated my doc around 2 weeks ago signifying this change. <AssetName=Shoes> is simply a string the issuer includes in his asset description. I agree with you that this can simply be added to the core. There is not much reason to actually restrict asset names to being unique *as long as you can identify the seller* (which the 1) unique company name alias helps with). Nike may have an asset called "Hiking Boots" and Ralph Lauren could have an asset called "Hiking Boots" as well. Despite being two different products under the same asset name, you would not be confused which asset is which, because you know the sellers.

Yes, images/audio/video do open up a whole new can of worms. We will have to look into ways to filter out content as explicit if we do decide to go down this path (of course, all done client-side, and the user has a choice if he wants to filter or not). I don't know how Google or Bing do this, but if someone knows, that'd be great! Imagine the NXT AE being able to show-case games much like the Steam Store does. You can have screen shots, gameplay videos, reviews, etc. right on the asset - huge potential! Or a service that sells DVDs, you can see the trailer of the movie right there in the AE.
 
If filtering (either through user flagging, algo, etc.) is not possible or effective, then yes, simply a URL would probably suffice (although, definitely not as slick!).

As for the categorizing, I assume you agree with this? It's much like how twitter users use hashtags to index their tweets so algos can find their tweets easily. Applying this to the AE, this will allow a gold bar asset seller to categorize his asset, and streamline searches on the client. So if a user searches gold bars, his asset will be easily found even if the user did not explicitly search his asset's name.

Pandaisftw

Ok, I like it now. I could probably implement this like jl777 says:

Just saw a really good idea on XCP forum:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=395761.msg5773807#msg5773807

It is about asset naming and it is very simple and I think quite effective.
Basically once you own an Asset Name, then you can create a subasset for a much lower fee. this essentially allows branding of the root name and then people will know that anything that starts with that is from the same issuer

So Anon gets his Anon136 asset name. Now he can issue:

Anon136.silver1oz
Anon136.silvershot
Anon136.silveretc

It still has a squatting issue with it, but now the squatters have to squat on the names of the issuers, not the target asset. This is far riskier as if a specific name is taken, there are always others that can be used. Unlike "BTC", which is unique.

If we are going to change the NXTcore for asset names, this one might be worth doing.


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March 19, 2014, 10:32:24 AM
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create a new acc on testnet http://nxtra.org/nxt-client/
When I want to send out for the first time to produce public key,displayed:
Code:
Unknown account
cannot send out.
What is the matter?
any suggestions?
tks.

 
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March 19, 2014, 10:34:04 AM
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create a new acc on testnet http://nxtra.org/nxt-client/
When I want to send out for the first time to produce public key,displayed:
Code:
Unknown account
cannot send out.
What is the matter?
any suggestions?
tks.

What browser, and version, and OS please?
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March 19, 2014, 10:55:25 AM
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create a new acc on testnet http://nxtra.org/nxt-client/
When I want to send out for the first time to produce public key,displayed:
Code:
Unknown account
cannot send out.
What is the matter?
any suggestions?
tks.

What browser, and version, and OS please?

I remember I had exactly the same issue with my client when sending NXT to a new account, due to my check for a public key of the recipient account.
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March 19, 2014, 10:57:45 AM
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create a new acc on testnet http://nxtra.org/nxt-client/
When I want to send out for the first time to produce public key,displayed:
Code:
Unknown account
cannot send out.
What is the matter?
any suggestions?
tks.

What browser, and version, and OS please?

I remember I had exactly the same issue with my client when sending NXT to a new account, due to my check for a public key of the recipient account.

It isn't that, I just tried this myself and it works. The check is just a warning, not an error.
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March 19, 2014, 11:01:56 AM
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Still there Shocked

Yep... Guess they are free game if LiQio doesn't want them...

But if whoever takes them will we think you are Emule

Lol gone to 1368640093026814904 - congratulations...

http://blocks.nxtcrypto.org/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=3000&acc=1368640093026814904

Code:
Paid Fees Total	:	356

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March 19, 2014, 11:03:55 AM
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Nice, donations Grin
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March 19, 2014, 11:04:01 AM
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Still there Shocked

Yep... Guess they are free game if LiQio doesn't want them...

But if whoever takes them will we think you are Emule

Lol gone to 1368640093026814904 - congratulations...

http://blocks.nxtcrypto.org/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=3000&acc=1368640093026814904

Code:
Paid Fees Total	:	356

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Even gave me a donation of 10 Nxt!  Cheesy

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March 19, 2014, 11:06:40 AM
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Yes of course some services like AM it can indexed per bytes but other
can be indexed per amount transacted

all AE like  Cryptsy, BTC, Bitstamp use % amount transacted
We're going to reinvent the wheel?
why not?

what this clear that will be a lot more economical to maintain than BTC network or clones

NXT AE, is, by definition, 'reinventing the wheel'.  You have to have a better reason than, 'thats the way its always been done'.  The other argument is basing everything on size in the blockchain.  Please argue your reason of % based with its own merits, or argue reasons against our suggestion.

an issue is how the fee is charged

must be distributed the cost of maintaining stimulated the "green, secure and decentralized network"

for example

Nxt% Fee per current transactions
Alias ​​Fee services (For example per bytes)
Nxt% Fee per AE transactions

and so on ....

How The network is worth to maintain?

How many minimum nodes are needed?
How much electricity does it cost?
How many minimum transactions contemplated

with this you can calculate total nxt minimum expected

and another issue is how the fee is partitioned

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a transactions's fee should be tied to its byte size on the blockchain

ok its a posible solution but

you need to do this minimum operation

Total number of bytes expected divided by total nxt minimum expected by fees

then you can know nxt per byte aplicable

I do not know if this solution is the best but it can probably work. sharing may be quite right
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March 19, 2014, 11:11:08 AM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=303898.msg3335322#msg3335322

Can someone enlighten me? Why is the base target below 100% if ALL coins are forging, but they are concentrated in 10 accounts?
How can I calculate that myself?

Also, does that mean, that bigger accounts, do indeed have a higher than X/1.000.000.000 chance in forging a block?

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